Turning Americans Into Conservative Ignoramuses: 'The State of American Education'
ClassWarz
ignoramuses, look here:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976772945
"Though the U.S. has been fighting a war in Iraq for more than three years,
nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a
map. And despite the widespread news coverage of Afghanistan for nearly five
years, resulting from the U.S. invasion and continued military presence
there, 88 percent of those questioned could not find Afghanistan on a map of
Asia."
"The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy Study
also revealed that a mere six months after Hurricane Katrina, 33 percent
couldn't even point out Louisiana on a U.S. map. "
"A recent study by the National Center for Education Statistics found that
only 31 percent of college graduates could read a ''complex book and
extrapolate from it." Furthermore, the study found that far fewer college
graduates are leaving school with ''the skills needed to comprehend routine
data, such as reading a table about the relationship between blood pressure
and physical activity." "
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976772945
Perhaps all this is by design?
ClassWarz
Paul Harper
<N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>Perhaps all this is by design?
Of course it is. Never has the truism that there are only two types of
Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
It is in the interests of the millionaires to gather as many idiots as
possible around them to do their fighting, to man their factories, and
clean their swimming pools for them.
As an outsider (I am not an American, and despite having visited the
place, have vowed never to live there) I do find it disappointing just
how many Americans are so willing to be suckered into following these
oligarchs.
Still. Once China gets its act together (shortly) and Europe too
(rather more long term), the US will suddenly wake up as the leader of
all the other third-world nations and wonder where all the good times
went.
Their loss, their suicide note.
Paul.
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Len Tropy
<N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>If you want to know why so many Americans have turned into conservative
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The
then-president and his advisors didn't respond.
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several
opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates,
including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the
Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries,
including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy"
Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar
Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan
lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed
intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's
Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted
commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these
offers was deafening.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>DemonCraps - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
Paul Harper
Oh, yah got me there, that's clever. Look; look, everyone at what he
did. He changed a few words and made it look all different. Wow. Wish
I was that sharp off the mark. Well done. You're a credit to the
USAsian education sysdum...
In other news, I also note that the US national debt has now exceeded
8.5 trillion dollars for the first time. That makes an increase if 50%
since Bush The Junior Idiot took control.
Now you just sit there for a second and think about that.
200+ years of political, fiscal and military independence gets your
debt to around $5.7trillion at the end of Clinton.
The Crawford Cretin adds ** 50% ** to that in just six short years.
Marvelous job, Shrub, marvelous job. Not only does he run oil
companies that need bailing out, but the entire country too.
I guess you get the president you deserve...
(Source: http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm)
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:48 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:03:45 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>>>DemonCraps - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>
>Oh, yah got me there, that's clever. Look; look, everyone at what he
>did. He changed a few words and made it look all different. Wow. Wish
>I was that sharp off the mark. Well done. You're a credit to the
>USAsian education sysdum...
Got somne thing against Asians too?
>In other news, I also note that the US national debt has now exceeded
>8.5 trillion dollars for the first time. That makes an increase if 50%
>since Bush The Junior Idiot took control.
>
>Now you just sit there for a second and think about that.
>
>200+ years of political, fiscal and military independence gets your
>debt to around $5.7trillion at the end of Clinton.
Whose ineffectual wag the dog led to:
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
* Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The
then-president and his advisors didn't respond.
By MANSOOR IJAZ
President Clinton and his national security team ignored several
opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates,
including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the
Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries,
including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy"
Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar
Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan
lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed
intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's
Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted
commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these
offers was deafening.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel
now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their
counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an
ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key
intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi
Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his
activities and associates.
But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where
he might plot to overthrow them.
In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin
Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored
better in Sudan than elsewhere.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri,
considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11
attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to
obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's
personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in
the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania
and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of
carrying out the embassy attacks.
Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers,
Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque
as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed
Salim's bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.
But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in
February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's
religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then
again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come
to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's
intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.
Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in
Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger
and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data
available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither
did they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they
never had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not.
Radical Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national
security threat.
And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the
deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White
House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to
be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism
official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally
whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal
after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S.
counter-terrorism officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as
the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver
him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there
to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton
officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal
politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly
organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their
potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most
serious foreign policy failures in American history.
*
Balloon payments for that kind of crap can be a real bitch, no?
Paul Harper
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:26:35 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:48 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:03:45 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>>>>DemonCraps - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>
>>Oh, yah got me there, that's clever. Look; look, everyone at what he
>>did. He changed a few words and made it look all different. Wow. Wish
>>I was that sharp off the mark. Well done. You're a credit to the
>>USAsian education sysdum...
>
>Got somne thing against Asians too?
Not at all. They are almost to an individual hard-working,
conscientious and caring.
It's America I have issues with.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:18:54 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:26:35 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:48 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:03:45 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>>>>>DemonCraps - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>>
>>>Oh, yah got me there, that's clever. Look; look, everyone at what he
>>>did. He changed a few words and made it look all different. Wow. Wish
>>>I was that sharp off the mark. Well done. You're a credit to the
>>>USAsian education sysdum...
>>
>>Got somne thing against Asians too?
>
>Not at all. They are almost to an individual hard-working,
>conscientious and caring.
>
>It's America I have issues with.
Well fuck off ad die then.
Paul Harper
Your arrogance and insularity show for all to see.
Since I am not in your pox-ridden country, it is unnecessary for me to
"fuck off" as I am not, and never will be, resident there anyway. I
have *some* standards.
And the dying bit is inevitable for all of us.
So, as usual, the net effect of your posting is indistinguishable from
zero. How very typical.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:45:38 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:15:11 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:18:54 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:26:35 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:48 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:03:45 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>>>>>>>DemonCraps - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, yah got me there, that's clever. Look; look, everyone at what he
>>>>>did. He changed a few words and made it look all different. Wow. Wish
>>>>>I was that sharp off the mark. Well done. You're a credit to the
>>>>>USAsian education sysdum...
>>>>
>>>>Got somne thing against Asians too?
>>>
>>>Not at all. They are almost to an individual hard-working,
>>>conscientious and caring.
>>>
>>>It's America I have issues with.
>>
>>Well fuck off ad die then.
>
>Your arrogance and insularity show for all to see.
...aw...sniffle...
>Since I am not in your pox-ridden country, it is unnecessary for me to
>"fuck off" as I am not, and never will be, resident there anyway. I
>have *some* standards.
so does a whore, the price menu is just more flexible...
>And the dying bit is inevitable for all of us.
soon then!
>So, as usual, the net effect of your posting is indistinguishable from
>zero. How very typical.
so yer into zero sum games?
good, me too!
Frank Clarke
>Perhaps all this is by design?
Do you think they could have done a more thorough job by accident?
(change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email)
The World's Smallest Minority
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz"
><N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps all this is by design?
>
> Of course it is. Never has the truism that there are only two types of
> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>
> It is in the interests of the millionaires to gather as many idiots as
> possible around them to do their fighting, to man their factories, and
> clean their swimming pools for them.
You both sounds like marxist "useful idiots" and kool aid drinkers.
> As an outsider (I am not an American, and despite having visited the
> place, have vowed never to live there)
Figures, a marxist troublemaker from outside the country.
--
Up with liberty!
Down with liberalism, socialism and communism!
The World's Smallest Minority
> Not at all. They are almost to an individual hard-working,
> conscientious and caring.
>
> It's America I have issues with.
Yet another marxist America hater.
The World's Smallest Minority
>>Well fuck off ad die then.
>
> Your arrogance and insularity show for all to see.
>
> Since I am not in your pox-ridden country, it is unnecessary for me to
> "fuck off"
Yes, you've managed that quite nicely on your own, years ago. Let me
guess, Unfree Kingdom?
> as I am not, and never will be, resident there anyway. I
> have *some* standards.
Back alley sex?
Len Tropy
<m5s...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz" <N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
><JezIg.3978$gN7....@newsfe05.lga>
>
>>Perhaps all this is by design?
>
>Do you think they could have done a more thorough job
They could have capped yer worthless ass.
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net> wrote :
>
>> Not at all. They are almost to an individual hard-working,
>> conscientious and caring.
>>
>> It's America I have issues with.
>
>Yet another marxist America hater.
The two don't necessarily go together.
Paul.
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net> wrote :
>
>>>Well fuck off ad die then.
>>
>> Your arrogance and insularity show for all to see.
>>
>> Since I am not in your pox-ridden country, it is unnecessary for me to
>> "fuck off"
>
>Yes, you've managed that quite nicely on your own, years ago. Let me
>guess, Unfree Kingdom?
>
>> as I am not, and never will be, resident there anyway. I
>> have *some* standards.
>
>Back alley sex?
No thanks, you're probably not my type, and I wouldn't want to catch
anything anyway.
I do appreciate the offer, though.
Paul.
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>Figures, a marxist troublemaker from outside the country.
As opposed to fascist troublemakers outside their own country, which
kind of sums up US foreign policy in places like Afghanistan, Iraq,
Iran, Israel, Lebanon, Vietnam, Grenada, Cambodia, Nicaragua, Panama
and God knows how many other places that are nothing whatsoever to do
with the US.
Paul.
Paul Harper
>so does a whore, the price menu is just more flexible...
A bit like your country's budget for Iraq then?
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:18:01 -0500, "The World's Smallest Minority"
><The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>
>>Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net> wrote :
>>
>>>>Well fuck off ad die then.
>>>
>>> Your arrogance and insularity show for all to see.
>>>
>>> Since I am not in your pox-ridden country, it is unnecessary for me to
>>> "fuck off"
>>
>>Yes, you've managed that quite nicely on your own, years ago. Let me
>>guess, Unfree Kingdom?
>>
>>> as I am not, and never will be, resident there anyway. I
>>> have *some* standards.
>>
>>Back alley sex?
>
Whoa, first turn down, impressive...
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:26:03 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>so does a whore, the price menu is just more flexible...
>
>A bit like your country's budget
Which is YOUR country then, whore?
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:16:26 -0500, "The World's Smallest Minority"
But ya did..
Paul Harper
DYOR
Paul Harper
So, let's see if I get this right: "hard-working, conscientious and
caring" = "marxist" [sic].
I guess that explains a lot about the state of America these days,
huh?
Paul Harper
Not remotely. It's bad enough my country getting fucked by American
corruption and greed without me joining in as an individual.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:30:14 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:57:11 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:26:03 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>>
>>>>so does a whore, the price menu is just more flexible...
>>>
>>>A bit like your country's budget
>>
>>Which is YOUR country then, whore?
>
>DYOR
ESAD FUCKNUT!
The World's Smallest Minority
Yeah, we should sit back and watch communists like you take over the
whole world and then cut off our economy.
Frank Clarke
<ide7f2l9uejqn9lgn...@4ax.com>
QED.
Len Tropy
<m5s...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:51:32 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
><ide7f2l9uejqn9lgn...@4ax.com>
>
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:36:09 GMT, Frank Clarke
>><m5s...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz" <N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>>><JezIg.3978$gN7....@newsfe05.lga>
>>>
>>>>Perhaps all this is by design?
>>>
>>>Do you think they could have done a more thorough job
>>
>>They could have capped yer worthless ass.
>
>QED.
ASAP
>(change Arabic number to Roman numeral to email)
Change yer assplug.
Paul Harper
Why am I undersurprised that you lack the ability to do a little
research of your own.
Ah well. The playground language and simplistic responses tell us all
we need to know, I suppose.
Paul.
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>Yeah, we should sit back and watch communists like you take over the
>whole world and then cut off our economy.
Crikey! I knew your economy was weak, I hadn't realised it was *that*
weak! To be so easily "cut off", it must be in even more dire straits
than I'd thought. Thanks for the heads-up.
quintal
> If you want to know why so many Americans have turned into conservative
> ignoramuses, look here:
>
>
> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976772945
>
>
> "Though the U.S. has been fighting a war in Iraq for more than three years,
> nearly two-thirds of Americans aged 18 to 24 still cannot find Iraq on a
> map. And despite the widespread news coverage of Afghanistan for nearly
> five
> years, resulting from the U.S. invasion and continued military presence
> there, 88 percent of those questioned could not find Afghanistan on a map
> of
> Asia."
>
> "The National Geographic-Roper Public Affairs 2006 Geographic Literacy
> Study
> also revealed that a mere six months after Hurricane Katrina, 33 percent
> couldn't even point out Louisiana on a U.S. map. "
>
> "A recent study by the National Center for Education Statistics found that
> only 31 percent of college graduates could read a ''complex book and
> extrapolate from it." Furthermore, the study found that far fewer college
> graduates are leaving school with ''the skills needed to comprehend routine
> data, such as reading a table about the relationship between blood pressure
> and physical activity." "
>
>
> http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976772945
>
>
> Perhaps all this is by design?
not perhaps, proven and documented:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt
"the deliberate dumbing down of america"
free to download:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.pdf
other free ebooks:
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/pdf_downloads.html
> ClassWarz
alt.fan.michael-moore,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.conspiracy
Pete K.
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz"
> <N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>
>
> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>
Agreed.
>
> Still. Once China gets its act together (shortly) and Europe too
> (rather more long term), the US will suddenly wake up as the leader of
> all the other third-world nations and wonder where all the good times
> went.
>
> Their loss, their suicide note.
>
> Paul.
China, yes they're getting their shit together. Europe, not really.
Western Europe in particular is going to be in a very bad way once their
boomers start retiring, and since the mass majority of them have been
conditioned to the nanny state it's not going to change any time soon.
PK
Len Tropy
>there are only two types of
>> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>
>
>Agreed.
Agreed that you're a fucking weapons grade MORON!
Paul Harper
Ah, the "Eloquent Right" speaks again. No rebuttal, no denial, no
clever disassembling of an allegedly false premise, just abuse and
bitterness. Clearly a Republican who's not a millionaire. Ho hum...
Shrikeback
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz"
> <N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>
> >Perhaps all this is by design?
>
> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>
> possible around them to do their fighting, to man their factories, and
> clean their swimming pools for them.
Sounds like the run-of-the-mill Marxist pablum substitute for real
thought to me.
> As an outsider (I am not an American, and despite having visited the
> place, have vowed never to live there) I do find it disappointing just
> how many Americans are so willing to be suckered into following these
> oligarchs.
Ditto.
"I'll tell you how it is. It's like this. Team America is financed
by the corporations. And the corporations sit their in their
corporate buildings, and they're all corporate-y and stuff. Uh huh."
-The Tim Robbins marionette in "Team America, World Police"
> Still. Once China gets its act together (shortly) and Europe too
> (rather more long term),
In the long term (i.e. the next few decades the average age
of both of those places will be high enough to make Alzheimer's
the number one cause of death.
> the US will suddenly wake up as the leader of
> all the other third-world nations and wonder where all the good times
> went.
At least America reproduces.
> Their loss, their suicide note.
And the will last person in Europe please turn the light
off in the nursing home?
Paul Harper
wrote:
>Paul Harper wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:06:36 -0500, "ClassWarz"
>> <N...@ObedienceSkills.Con> wrote:
>>
>> >Perhaps all this is by design?
>>
>> Of course it is. Never has the truism that there are only two types of
>> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>
>> It is in the interests of the millionaires to gather as many idiots as
>> possible around them to do their fighting, to man their factories, and
>> clean their swimming pools for them.
>
>Sounds like the run-of-the-mill Marxist pablum substitute for real
>thought to me.
That's because your powers of observation are clouded by the flag you
have wrapped around your head.
>> As an outsider (I am not an American, and despite having visited the
>> place, have vowed never to live there) I do find it disappointing just
>> how many Americans are so willing to be suckered into following these
>> oligarchs.
>
>Ditto.
>
>"I'll tell you how it is. It's like this. Team America is financed
>by the corporations. And the corporations sit their in their
>corporate buildings, and they're all corporate-y and stuff. Uh huh."
>
>-The Tim Robbins marionette in "Team America, World Police"
You really didn't get the double-edged humour in that movie did you?
Ah well, subtlety has never been terribly well developed in people
like you, people who are more comfortable sticking a pre-gummed label
on things (like "Marxist" and the like) than actually *thinking* about
something. The very concept of analysing something from first
principles goes so against the grain, and so exceeds the intellectual
capability that it is not even considered as a viable option.
Mantras are so much easier, aren't they? Gives you plenty of time to
get back to eating, which is what you lard arses do best.
>> Still. Once China gets its act together (shortly) and Europe too
>> (rather more long term),
>
>In the long term (i.e. the next few decades the average age
>of both of those places will be high enough to make Alzheimer's
>the number one cause of death.
Wrong. Our birth rate is higher than our death rate.
>> the US will suddenly wake up as the leader of
>> all the other third-world nations and wonder where all the good times
>> went.
>
>At least America reproduces.
And this is something you're proud of? Your massive illegitimate
population? Wow! No wonder your country is going to pot.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:35:47 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:14:55 GMT, "Pete K." <d...@null.com> wrote:
>>
>>>there are only two types of
>>>> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>>>
>>>Agreed.
>>
>>Agreed that you're a fucking weapons grade MORON!
>
>Ah, the "Eloquent Right" speaks again. No rebuttal,
To stupidity?
Bah, you rebut yourself every time you open your inane pie hole.
Paul Harper
>On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 09:23:53 +0100, Paul Harper <pa...@harper.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:35:47 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:14:55 GMT, "Pete K." <d...@null.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>there are only two types of
>>>>> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>>>>
>>>>Agreed.
>>>
>>>Agreed that you're a fucking weapons grade MORON!
>>
>>Ah, the "Eloquent Right" speaks again. No rebuttal,
>
>To stupidity?
I seem to manage it with remarkable frequency. That you don't get it
is an issue for you, not me.
The World's Smallest Minority
> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:35:47 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:14:55 GMT, "Pete K." <d...@null.com> wrote:
>>
>>>there are only two types of
>>>> Republicans - millionaires and idiots - more true than today.
>>>>
>>>Agreed.
>>
>>Agreed that you're a fucking weapons grade MORON!
>
> Ah, the "Eloquent Right" speaks again. No rebuttal, no denial, no
> clever disassembling of an allegedly false premise, just abuse and
> bitterness. Clearly a Republican who's not a millionaire. Ho hum...
>
> Paul.
All you liberals got is lies smears and bashing.
SLOBS: Smearing Lying Obstructing Bashing Socialists.
Paul Harper
> All you liberals got is lies smears and bashing.
>
> SLOBS: Smearing Lying Obstructing Bashing Socialists.
As opposed to:
LIAR: Lying, Ignorant, Arrogant Republican ?
Paul
Len Tropy
The World's Smallest Minority
See? You even smear, lie, obstruct and bash with that! slob!
Paul Harper
I see the "ignorant" element of the LIAR Republicans has woken up
again.
You don't quite get the game do you. I shall try to explain it using
words of as few syllables... erm... sounds as possible.
You start with a word, then you try very hard to think of a vaguely
insulting phrase that uses one word starting with each of the letters
of the original word. Make sure they are in the right order, or the
game won't work as well, and people will know you are a Republican. If
you can use words that actually go together, it is good, and if you
can use words that have more than one syllable... erm, sound... then
even better, and you get top prize if you can use a multiple-meaning
word or a double-entendre....
... I lost you at the end there, didn't I? Sorry.
Perhaps you'd better just stick to the mantra "Iraq good, Liberals
bad". It's less likely to strain you.
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
>"Paul Harper" <pa...@harper.net> wrote :
>
>> The World's Smallest Minority wrote:
>>
>>> All you liberals got is lies smears and bashing.
>>>
>>> SLOBS: Smearing Lying Obstructing Bashing Socialists.
>>
>> As opposed to:
>>
>> LIAR: Lying, Ignorant, Arrogant Republican ?
>>
>See? You even smear, lie, obstruct and bash with that! slob!
So, responding "eye for an eye" is *my* fault? I thought you lot were
the religious bigots that believed in that sort of thing? Perhaps it
only applies when it's not being done to you. How very Christian of
you. Not.
The World's Smallest Minority
> On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:30:51 -0600, Len Tropy <m...@men.tum> wrote:
>
>>On 4 Sep 2006 07:09:23 -0700, "Paul Harper" <pa...@harper.net> wrote:
>>
>>>As opposed to:
>>>
>>>LIAR:
>>
>> YOU
>
> I see the "ignorant" element of the LIAR Republicans has woken up
> again.
>
People like you are the result of the government school system.
"A massive U.S. Education Department survey, "Adult Literacy In
America", has shown that as many as 90 million Americans over the age of
15 are woefully incompetent. Or in the more colorful characterization of
American expatriate Bill Bryson, "They are as stupid as pig dribble".
Specifically, 90 million American adults were judged incapable of
writing a letter, fathoming a bus schedule, or adding and subtracting,
even with the help of a calculator." - The Sovereign Individual
Paul Harper
I could not agree more. If anything, I would suggest that such a claim
is on the conservative side and that the actual number is a lot closer
to 300million.
I can say this with all confidence because I have the greatest respect
for My Bryson, who has had the good sense to leave the cess pit that
is America and come and live in my country.
That pain you're currently feeling in your left foot? It's because you
just shot yourself in it.
Len Tropy
wrote:
>I see the "ignorant" element has woken up
>again.
Go back to sleep DNC toadie.
Len Tropy
wrote:
> I thought you lot were
>the religious
Satan, is that you?
Len Tropy
wrote:
>That pain you're currently feeling in your left foot? It's because you
>just shot yourself in it.
That pain between yer ears, incurable brain rot.
Paul Harper
It's a pain I always get trying to communicate with lower life forms.
Paul Harper
Just when I thought you'd displayed all the ignorance you were capable
of you come up with another level.
Wrong country, arsewipe.
Paul Harper
Jiminy Cricket, not that you'd notice.
The World's Smallest Minority
Why? Revealing that the socialist government school system is not
educating kids right?
Paul Harper
<The-Ind...@Me.ego> wrote:
Keep wriggling, kid, keep wriggling...