>From: Frank Kotler fbko...@attbi.com
>
>Escobar wrote:
>> hey you guys , what's up with all this madona stuff ?
>
>Apparently, an annoying person or persons (at least one may be a 'bot -
>doesn't have much to say) followed Laura here from her Madonna group.
You mean when "Laura" *followed* TH3 to AFM...started flaming, issued
threats...and bragged about how it would be "tracking" us down? <LOL>
Oh well...
Here's Danny (Aka: "Madonna Rulez") http://i.am/rayolite
http://bigboab.future.easyspace.com/19.jpg
(Danny calls Bob a "Lap Dog") Here's Bob:
http://bigboab.future.easyspace.com/lap_dog.htm
http://bigboab.future.easyspace.com/29.jpg
>From: "Escobar" escoba...@ig.com.br
>
>hey you guys , what's up with all this madona stuff ?
Because Danny/Madonna Rulez is so cream-blasted to blisters that it keeps
replying to its very own text, time and time again? ;)
>Why this guy writes so many things about her ? What does it have to do with
>de assembly news ?
Because Danny/Madonna Rulez entered a.f.m., feeding, weeping and spreading
threats that it can't back up?
>Dany wept for 4 days ...... ?
>What the hell is that ? who tha hell is him , why so many posts ?
>Is there any thing with that ?
Because Danny/Madonna Rulez has made up its mind that its priorities now lie
with weeping at Madonna's NG, instead of posting at this NG? ;)
Oh well...
[exits pointing at bicep]
---
As to cleaning up this group believe me I have been working on that...I have
the perfect solution but it will take a little time to get sorted out but I
will e-mail people on my list here as things progress, :-)
~Laura Fairhead [12-18-02]
>From: LoveMrs...@madonnaweb.com (laura fairhead)
>
>Try a quick search on google.com for the "author" substrings;
>dita...@aol.com, thesn...@aol.com, sweetlil...@aol.com
>to get the general idea.
>
>This character (it/he/she)
>
You brag about your stalking/"tracking"/"hacking" skills...but you can't even
read headers?
>but one of its favourites (and indeed lately it seems to be the only one
>it uses) is to make some sentence about "Danny", which is obviously taken
>from a regular poster on the group called Daniel. Just as it's main strategy
>is to try to intimidate, to bully and harass fans to try to stop them from
>taking part in our community
The "community" where "Danny" has fed for nearly 4 years...as his only defense
aGainst the truth about himself?
>so it also uses this name theme (together with
>making Daniel the subject of many of its inane rantings) to attempt to
>intimidate Daniel: especially since Daniel is a long-time regular who is
>completely unaffected by such unimaginative anti-social behaviour.
>
No, Danny...you lied; "Daniel" is extremely affected, 100% pure-fact - so
affected that he threatened to have others thrown in "jail", for telling the
100% Danny-published/authored WWWpublic truth about "Daniel"; so "affected"
that he said that the trolls are "more interesting", and that Madonna's real
fans/NONfeeders are boring...and have "cum in" their "panties", fact. You can
keep on lying as your defense aGainst the truth about yourself/Danny...but
it'll never make it the truth, no matter how hard you pretend.
>Unfortunately for the troll, when I came to AFM its life changed for
>the worse.
Because we knew that you entered as a flamewar feeder, and that your whole life
took a Hellish down-turn for the worse...the very second that you were unable
to accept the fact that others didn't "buy" your twisted and tormented
"monoculture"? Danny...why did you run to the **please-help-me** Newsgroups and
cry for help? Also, it should be noted that you didn't go cryin' for help
because of *any* form of "troll tactic"; the only reason you cried for
he'p...was because of the fact that you entered as a flamer, and *you* were
just gettin' real tired of trying to convince others that Madonna was a great
actress, great singer, greatest and most powerful woman that ever lived... etc,
etc, etc...
>I was initially looking for my own mailing list & web-site
>to make my own contribution to the Madonna fan community, however I do
>not presently have the funds in order to start such a project. So when I
>found AFM I was very pleased to be able to become part of and contribute
>to the community through this medium.
See...dishonest Danny, that's a lie; you *never* entered (as "Laura") and even
once made even one On-topic posting *to* one of the *real fans*/NONfeeders and
tried to "share info", because you were way too busy making sure that every
single one of your postings were devoted entirely towards being buried in your
little "flamewar".
It was only *after* you got tired of frothing, and when you decided to go look
for a victory at the ***please-save-me*** Newsgroups, that you ever
returned...and started to get "On-topic". And that was only because the people
at the **SOS** Newsgroups told you just to basically 'uck off...and to stop
being such a crybaby. ;)
>It seems that the troll had managed
>to scare many fans away from group
>What I do know is that this character is in a losing game if it thinks it
>can intimidate either myself or any of the other frequenters of AFM.
>
Well...Danny, you just contradicted yourself - you sure do that a whole lot.
<kissing bicep>
>however my presence and the work I do for the group now
>has certainly rekindled plenty of life into it; we now have grown in size
>and there are at least half a dozen regular posters
Danny, just how pathetic (and in denial) are you...really?
Those *magic six* posters account for a *combined* total of just how much
growth? About an average of 4 On-topics/day...on a good day? Of course I'm not
talkin' 'bout the *real* growth at the Newsgroup - that would be you...talkin'
to *yourself*... <LMAWO>
>Being a very special time for us Madonna fans, ( because it is the 20th
>anniversary of her career this year ) I am looking towards building the
>newsgroup into a serious point of contact for fans, and for information
>for fans, admirers or just the curious. If things carry on going as well
>as they have been, and with some promotion and work, I am anticipating
>that by the summer AFM should be the newsgroup that it should be.
>
Danny...the *only* chance you have for "saving the NG", is if "Danny" lets it
be known, to all the NONfeeders, that "Danny" has left...
Why? Because after "Danny" decided to establish itself as the absolute #1
feeder at the group, and announced that not only are the trolls "more
interesting", but you trashed Madonna's *real fans*/NONfeeders.
You see...Danny, I just don't think that those 100+ NONfeeders, that added
about 500 postings/day at AFM...are ever going to let you take credit for
"saving the NG" that you spent 4 years...destroyin'.
Oh well...
>Anyway, this character has cyber-stalked me to ALA with the very obvious
>intention of intimidating me because, of course, it sees me as a threat to
>its anti-social activities on AFM.
>
[So saith/cried the skeered 'ittle 2-faced "tracking" stalker] ;)
> I have mailed (yet) another complaint
>to AOL.com
>
Danny, how can you report something...that you can't even *see*? See...Danny,
that's why the NONfeeders ignore you; you just keep getting tripped-up in your
double-standards and 2-faced lies. ;)
>There is another
>action that we could take against this problem of course and I have
>been investigating that, however things are going fine on AFM for now
>and I need to raise funds in order to pursue it.
>
More of your "tracking"/"hacking"/stalking threats...or are you tryin' to imply
that you'll take your *own* advice...about the "fans" going to a different
"forum"?
Oh well...
>It may be some sort of obssesive compulsive disorder that drives
>them, but it's obviously hateful (some sort of self-hatred it seems to me)
>
Danny...you just decribed *Daniel's* entire reason to exist on Usenet - the way
that "Danny" is so self-hating, tormented and disjointed...that it considers
its very own 100% pure-facts about its own "real life" to be "abusive"...to
itself; the way that Danny needs others to go to "jail", for simply mentioning
the WWWpublic facts that come from Danny's very *own* sign-off "signature."
<rolls @@ eyes>
>In the meantime I would just ignore it
>
Perfect and appropriate ending...Danny. Please keep tellin' the NONfeeders to
"ignore"; something that you've never been able to do...
<cachinnating>
>From: LoveMrs...@madonnaweb.com (laura fairhead)
>Try a quick search on google.com for the "author" substrings;
>dita...@aol.com, thesn...@aol.com, sweetlil...@aol.com
>to get the general idea.
Then do a search on yourself, "Daniel" rayo...@lineone.net, to see how you've
feed for 4 years?
>however my presence and the work I do for the group now
>has certainly rekindled plenty of life into it; we now have grown in size
Because you talk to yourself, Danny? That's your master plan? Odd how the
non-feeders have yet to return, isn't it?
>and there are at least half a dozen regular posters
At a.f.m.? Name names...'kay? ;)
>and untold numbers of
>readers who post on occasion and I have had much support via e-mail.
Really? Then why do the non-feeders continue to ignore almost every single
forced thread that you have ever posted, for the last 4 years, Danny?
>I am looking towards building the
>newsgroup into a serious point of contact for fans, and for information
>for fans, admirers or just the curious.
Dream on and dream big, Danny. You've been ignored for years...and your 4 years
of non-stop feeding is the big reason why all of the non-feeders stopped
posting...so why are you silly enough to think that they'll do you any favors,
seeing that you've done them no favors, at all, with your years and years of
feeding?
>I am anticipating
>that by the summer AFM should be the newsgroup that it should be.
Just work as hard as you feel is required...even start talking to yourself even
more than you're already doing, if you think that's what the non-feeders want
to see...'kay? ;)
>I have mailed (yet) another complaint
>to AOL.com about this (abuse: tosu...@AOL.com ), having already complained
>about this character on multiple occasions to them with no response
Danny...maybe they're just of the same mind as that person that you went
weeping to in the *usenet abuse* NG...that if you're too stupid to ignore and
write a filter, then "you deserve to be trolled." That's probably what most
people think about your little 4 year war...because the non-feeders have never
helped you feed, no matter what NG you're weeping at.
>I did consider
>tracing this character, tracking them down, locating their personal
>information;
>but this would have only left me with the options
Danny, you only wept that you were going to track us down...***before*** you
started seeing the results come back in from that *usenet abuse* NG that you
wept at, begging for **their** help in tracking...they told you to quit you
bitching and to get back to your NG.
>for just that reason I never respond to its posts
Liar, that's how you entered AFM.
>and
>never usually will even post into threads that discuss the troll like this
>however in this situation I am inclined to respond).
And you're getting pretty much the same help with your weepings that you get at
the other NGs...and that's none.
>What I do know is that this character is in a losing game if it thinks it
>can intimidate either myself or any of the other frequenters of AFM.
Danny, you're a feeder that's been losing at this game for the last 4 years
[fact].
>Anyway, hopefully AOL will *finally* do something with this latest
>episode. While complaining to its ISP is a good idea if you really
>do want to do something
Danny, beg all you want, but if the real Madonna fans/the non-feeders won't
even help you out with your 4 year war, why should these non-Madonna fans want
to get involved in your pathetic mess? ;)
>In the meantime I would just ignore it and get on
>with the assembly coding :-)
Danny, do you really think that they need your advice?
[giggle]
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
Perfect...the only person to help Danny/Laura...is the only other person to
ever get into a flame war w/ TH3 at this NG...feeders sure do stick together,
don't they? ;)
><audrey-m1.news.aol.com> (172.20.17.70) or
><audrey-m2.news.aol.com> (172.20.17.115),
>
>two AOL newsservers. WhoIs says, that the IP addresses 172.20.17.00 ...
>172.20.17.255 are owned by / reserved for AOL. You can't do anything to
>track a person *through* a newsserver.
SO...Danny/Laura won't be able to track and hack like it threatened it would,
since those IP addresses aren't even close? ;)
>You can't hack a machine you want to intrude, if you don't have a IP
>address. Most users don't have a "direct wire" to the internet, so each
>login to an ISP generates another (runtime) IP address. It is almost
>impossible to attack a specific person via the internet, except the
>machine s/he is running is connected to your machine, e.g. via a file
>exchange software (or if you run an own server).
That sounds criminal to me...far worse than Danny/Laura refusing to break off
its 4 year war...yes?
Oh well...
>Maybe
>we should talk with this person?
By feeding...or by asking Danny to keep on feeding, while its **prentending**
to "clean up" afm with years and years more of its perpetuated war?
[sigh]
>Perfect...the only person to help Danny/Laura...is the only other person to
>ever get into a flame war w/ TH3 at this NG...feeders sure do stick together,
>don't they? ;)
>
Nope, "multiple personality". I just don't like what you're doing in
alt.lang.asm!
>SO...Danny/Laura won't be able to track and hack like it threatened it would,
>since those IP addresses aren't even close? ;)
>
Enough evidence to ban you, that much should be clear - especially a
unwanted spammer like you should know what is fact.
At the moment I prefer to have some fun with you - better watch out and
don't become boring... :-D
>>You can't hack a machine you want to intrude, if you don't have a IP
>>address. Most users don't have a "direct wire" to the internet, so each
>>login to an ISP generates another (runtime) IP address. It is almost
>>impossible to attack a specific person via the internet, except the
>>machine s/he is running is connected to your machine, e.g. via a file
>>exchange software (or if you run an own server).
>>
>
>That sounds criminal to me...far worse than Danny/Laura refusing to break off
>its 4 year war...yes?
>
If you quote my postings in another newsgroup, then you should stay with
the truth. The truth is, that you just have forgotten to quote the most
important sentence of that paragraph (everybody can read the entire
posting in alt.lang.asm in the same thread):
>>> BTW - it would be criminal, and it is *never* a good idea to do
harm to others because you want "revenge" for something... <<<
Why don't stop telling lies? Isn't it much more criminal than telling
others *not* do the above quoted things?
To hell \|/
_________
P.S.: To all in alt.fan.madonna - sorry for bothering you, but "the
multiple personality" still is spamming alt.lang.asm (BTW -
alt.fan.madonna includes much more of this SPAM). As long as the
spamming in alt.lang.asm continues, I will post in alt.fan.madonna
instead of alt.lang.asm!
Be nice and say thank you to your mis-leaded group member with the many
personalities.
_________
Beerdigung rules! /+\
The Happy Gravedigger
aka Bernhard Schornak
--
Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of Motorhead?
Hey, she still has *all* her teeth, you know...
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>"The multiple personality" wrote:
>
Forged posting alert!!!!!
>> Perfect...the only person to help Danny/Laura...is the only other
>> person to ever get into a flame war w/ TH3 at this NG...feeders sure
>> do stick together, don't they? ;)
>>
>
>Nope, "multiple personality". I just don't like what you're doing in
>alt.lang.asm!
Xref: lobby alt.lang.asm:49900 alt.fan.madonna:305325
Cross-Post alert!!!!!
>> SO...Danny/Laura won't be able to track and hack like it threatened it
>> would, since those IP addresses aren't even close? ;)
>>
>
>Enough evidence to ban you, that much should be clear - especially a
>unwanted spammer like you should know what is fact.
>
So...that's a fact...really? We'll just have to wait and see, won't we? ;)
>At the moment I prefer to have some fun with you - better watch out and
>don't become boring... :-D
That's exactly what you wept, the last time that your feedin' frenzy lasted for
days...yes?
>>>You can't hack a machine you want to intrude, if you don't have a IP
>>>address. Most users don't have a "direct wire" to the internet, so each
>>>login to an ISP generates another (runtime) IP address. It is almost
>>>impossible to attack a specific person via the internet, except the
>>>machine s/he is running is connected to your machine, e.g. via a file
>>>exchange software (or if you run an own server).
>>>
>>
>> That sounds criminal to me...far worse than Danny/Laura refusing to
>> break off its 4 year war...yes?
>>
> If you quote my postings in another newsgroup, then you should stay
> with the truth. The truth is, that you just have forgotten to quote the
> most important sentence of that paragraph (everybody can read the
> entire posting in alt.lang.asm in the same thread):
Like this posting that you cross-posted **into** AFM? ;)
b.t.w. [Evasion duly noted]
> >>> BTW - it would be criminal, and it is *never* a good idea to do
>harm to others because you want "revenge" for something... <<<
>Why don't stop telling lies? Isn't it much more criminal than telling
>others *not* do the above quoted things?
I told no lies, foamer. I quoted your text/advice that you gave
Danny/Laura...if he takes matters into its own hands, after what you shared,
that's its problem...I snipped your text...I didn't give you credit for text
that you didn't write.
>To hell \|/
>
If you're pissed, that's your problem, not mine.
>_________
>
>P.S.: To all in alt.fan.madonna - sorry for bothering you, but "the
>multiple personality" still is spamming alt.lang.asm (BTW -
>alt.fan.madonna includes much more of this SPAM). As long as the
>spamming in alt.lang.asm continues, I will post in alt.fan.madonna
>instead of alt.lang.asm!
Guess you'll just have to decide where your priorities lie...yes?
>Be nice and say thank you to your mis-leaded group member with the many
>personalities.
I guess I could say the same to alt.lang.asm...on your behalf...agreed?
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>In-Reply-To: <20030202142706...@mb-fl.aol.com>
>Xref: lobby alt.lang.asm:49900 alt.fan.madonna:305325
>
>I just don't like what you're doing in
>alt.lang.asm!
>
And to rectify the situation, you decided to *feed* on 2 newsgroups, *after*
"Laura" instructed you to "ignore" ...on 1 newsgroup?
<prattle>
>Cross-Post alert!!!!!
>
Wow ... IT noticed the fact, that I was posting this from
alt.fan.madonna to alt.lang.asm, too!
>That's exactly what you wept, the last time that your feedin' frenzy lasted for
>days...yes?
>
That was the wrong NG, you know...
>Like this posting that you cross-posted **into** AFM? ;)
>
See above.
>I told no lies, foamer. I quoted your text/advice that you gave
>Danny/Laura...if he takes matters into its own hands, after what you shared,
>that's its problem...I snipped your text...I didn't give you credit for text
>that you didn't write.
>
No excuses - it's a fact, that you falsified the point of my paragraph!
Everybody can get the proof in alt.lang.asm! I will re-post the message
here, if you continue telling lies...
>Guess you'll just have to decide where your priorities lie...yes?
>
Oh, come on, you don't expect, that _you_ have more than a *low* priority...
I'm just posting to relax a little bit, so you shouldn't assume, that
your priority is much higher than 252 out of 255 (with zero as highest
priority). And, yep, there are some things less important than you, e.g.
Tim Martin in comp.os.os2.advocacy. Tim is a spammer like you. He acts
as OS/2 salesman, attacks OS/2 users in several NGs and runs a Linux
machine for real. You could be his brother (your name isn't Martin?)...
>I guess I could say the same to alt.lang.asm...on your behalf...agreed?
>
As you are subscribed to alt.lang.asm, I am subscribed to
alt.fan.madonna (and many other NGs, which are *all* related to OS/2 or
programming). And as long as you spam alt.lang.asm (you spam
alt.fan.madonna, too, but that's not my problem), I will post here
instead of alt.lang.asm, because there is not much difference in the
contents of both spammed groups. Hope that you got the clue...
And - in concurrence to you - I'm always on topic. Each of my postings
ends with a challenge for all Madonna fans: To convince me why I should
hear her "music".
Also - in concurrence to you - I'm not hiding and acting out of a black
hole. I am a *real* person, and I'm not afraid of the fact, that I am
using my *real* name (easy to verify). People who hide behind a
pseudonym just are cowards - they don't want to be responsible for their
deeds and try to bypass the consequences (impossible, but they can't
think that far). People with no honour and no pride...
Every word I say is just what I would tell you face to face, too. That's
the *big* difference between IT and Bernhard Schornak!
<serious>
Maybe you should tell me a little bit more about the big "message" you
have to spread around the world. I still have no clue, what you're
talking about. But we should start to talk in seriousness, instead of
exchanging stupid messages like both of us did and still do. I'm always
open to talk, and if it is an interesting topic, then your "priority"
may rise.
And - please leave out all this special terms in brackets. I just ignore
them, because I don't waste my time with looking for translations to get
the point (or you explain what you mean, so people in other countries
with other languages may understand it, too)...
I offer an objective discussion, so we may find a way to solve our
little "problem".
</serious>
To hell \|/
Beerdigung rules! /t\
The Happy Gravedigger
aka Bernhard Schornak
--
Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of John
Denver? She still is alive, you know...
>And to rectify the situation, you decided to *feed* on 2 newsgroups, *after*
>"Laura" instructed you to "ignore" ...on 1 newsgroup?
>
Ok - very slow and very detailed - so even you should be able to follow
with thinking while reading:
1. I do not "feed" anybody - whenever I write something to a NG, I
do it because:
1.1. I have the knowledge about something somebody wants to know.
1.2. I know a solution for a problem somebody has.
1.3. I see something which is wrong and I can give a proper answer.
1.4. I have some additional ideas about a topic.
1.5. I have to say something about things I like or don't like.
1.6. I just be funny. Should be practiced from time to time...
2. Whatever I post to whereever - it is always done, because *I*
want to do it (see 1.1. - 1.6.)!
3. Nobody (except my boss at work) "instructs" me - I'm a free human
being and not dependent on anyone!
4. I neither know you nor do I know Laura Fairhead. I have read some
of your postings as I have read some of her's. My impression:
4.1. You have a message, but nobody wants to hear it, because you
"sell" it the wrong way.
4.2. You have some personal quarrels wit Laura Fairhead.
4.3. Because of 4.1. and 4.2., you started spamming this newsgroup.
4.4. I know, that Laura Fairhead was posting in alt.lang.asm long
before I came to that NG (the one or other mentioned her).
4.5. As she started posting in alt.lang.asm again, you started
spamming alt.lang.asm, too.
4.6. I have not seen any "positive" work of you until now (the links
you give are not your own work / sites).
4.7. I have seen some postings written by Laura Fairhead - she's a
skilled assembler programmer.
4.8. Even if I trust nobody in this NG - she is more believable (see
4.7. + her reputation in alt.lang.asm) than you!
5. Why I'm posting in alt.fan.madonna now:
5.1. There are too many spam messages written by you and your multiple
personalities in alt.lang.asm.
5.2. The difference between the mass of your postings in both
newsgroups is getting smaller every day.
5.3. I think, that it makes sense to continue playing our "games" here
- where they belong to...
5.4. Because you didn't take my words serious, I will show you that I
am at least the same bonehead as you think you are.
5.5. I soon will become your personal nightmare, if you don't change
your ways...
5.6. Because it would be unfair to act with full power, I reduced my
forces a lot. Have in mind that I try to play a fair game!
6. How it could be in the near future...
6.1. We will play the game until forever - the one who dies first will
lose (unfair - I'm on the road every day)...
6.2. To increase my chances (see side note 6.1.) I start coding a
post-o-matic, which generates replies to *each* of your postings.
6.3. Sooner or later you will consider to talk with people in a
serious way. ??? (I give you some days to think it over...)
6.4. Everybody will have a benefit of a constructive discussion.
6.5. One fine day in the near future there will be a solution.
6.6. The people in alt.lang.asm will be happy to save a huge amount of
bandwidth.
6.7. The people in alt.fan.madonna will start to talk *with* you about
Madonna or whatever else.
6.8. Everybody is happy...
7. Maybe you should waste one hour of your spamming time to find
out, with *whom* you're talking? There are enough hints...
To hell \|/ (better than: To heaven /|\ ?)
Beerdigung rules! /t\
The Happy Gravedigger
aka Bernhard Schornak
--
Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of Celine
Dion? She never can compete with a great voice, you know...
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>IT wrote:
>
>>Cross-Post alert!!!!!
>>
>
>Wow ... IT noticed the fact, that I was posting this from
>alt.fan.madonna to alt.lang.asm, too!
Spank!
>>That's exactly what you wept, the last time that your feedin' frenzy lasted
>for
>>days...yes?
>>
>
>That was the wrong NG, you know...
>
That's still exactly what you wept, the last time that your feedin' frenzy
lasted for days...yes?
>>I told no lies, foamer. I quoted your text/advice that you gave
>>Danny/Laura...if he takes matters into its own hands, after what you shared,
>>that's its problem...I snipped your text...I didn't give you credit for text
>>that you didn't write.
>>
>
>No excuses - it's a fact, that you falsified the point of my paragraph!
>Everybody can get the proof in alt.lang.asm! I will re-post the message
>here, if you continue telling lies...
No, liar...I never altered or forged your text. If you never wanted to give
Laura your knowledge on hacking, and you now regret it, you never should have
made any mention of it in the first place...what I snipped doesn't really
matter...since you did go to all the trouble of posting what you wished you
never had.
>>Guess you'll just have to decide where your priorities lie...yes?
>>
>
>Oh, come on, you don't expect, that _you_ have more than a *low* priority...
>
That's why feeding has become your no. 1 priority...and why you're
here...instead of there? ;)
>I'm just posting to relax a little bit, so you shouldn't assume, that
>your priority is much higher than 252 out of 255 (with zero as highest
>priority). And, yep, there are some things less important than you, e.g.
>Tim Martin in comp.os.os2.advocacy. Tim is a spammer like you. He acts
>as OS/2 salesman, attacks OS/2 users in several NGs and runs a Linux
>machine for real. You could be his brother (your name isn't Martin?)...
No excuses - remember? ;)
>As you are subscribed to alt.lang.asm, I am subscribed to
>alt.fan.madonna (and many other NGs, which are *all* related to OS/2 or
>programming). And as long as you spam alt.lang.asm (you spam
>alt.fan.madonna, too, but that's not my problem), I will post here
>instead of alt.lang.asm, because there is not much difference in the
>contents of both spammed groups. Hope that you got the clue...
Nice pawn impersonation you got going on there.
[sigh]
>And - in concurrence to you - I'm always on topic. Each of my postings
>ends with a challenge for all Madonna fans: To convince me why I should
>hear her "music".
>
>Also - in concurrence to you - I'm not hiding and acting out of a black
>hole. I am a *real* person, and I'm not afraid of the fact, that I am
>using my *real* name (easy to verify). People who hide behind a
>pseudonym just are cowards - they don't want to be responsible for their
>deeds and try to bypass the consequences (impossible, but they can't
>think that far). People with no honour and no pride...
Are you upset? You seem upset.
Oh well...
>Every word I say is just what I would tell you face to face, too. That's
>the *big* difference between IT and Bernhard Schornak!
Feel better now, little one?
[sigh]
><serious>
>Maybe you should tell me a little bit more about the big "message" you
>have to spread around the world. I still have no clue, what you're
>talking about. But we should start to talk in seriousness, instead of
>exchanging stupid messages like both of us did and still do. I'm always
>open to talk, and if it is an interesting topic, then your "priority"
>may rise.
You want to get you feeding frenzy on a more serious level?
((( eyes rollin' )))
>And - please leave out all this special terms in brackets. I just ignore
>them, because I don't waste my time with looking for translations to get
>the point (or you explain what you mean, so people in other countries
>with other languages may understand it, too)...
Lines: 95
[giggle]
>I offer an objective discussion, so we may find a way to solve our
>little "problem".
></serious>
You just admitted that you had a problem. Wow!
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>>That's exactly what you wept, the last time that your feedin' frenzy lasted
>for
>>days...yes?
>>
>
>That was the wrong NG, you know...
>
[Evasion Noted]
>I'm just posting to relax a little bit
--bv_schornak, makin' excuses for its feedin' priorities...
<chortle>
"Honesty is the rarest wealth anyone can possess, and yet all the honesty in
the world ain't lawful tender for a loaf of bread."
~ Josh Billings ~
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>
>1. I do not "feed" anybody - whenever I write something to a NG, I
>do it because:
>
--bv_schornak, feeding...
<rolls @@ eyes>
>IT blabbered the usual banal diatribe:
>
[I deleted - if it ever said anything I would read it, but as it stands reading
the telephone book would be much more interesting]
>aka Bernhard Schornak
Hiya Bernhard,
I gather you challenge us Mo fans to give you reasons to listen to
Madonna in these thingies yeah ?!
>--
>Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of John
>Denver? She still is alive, you know...
Exactly :) So you could check her out live, hearing a singer live
is always going to be miles better than any recording; you're
getting the real thing!. She's going to be touring again soon with
the new album, so unlike John Denver you won't have to wait until hell
freezes over to witness ... :-)
byefornow
laura
--
alt.fan.madonna |news, interviews, discussion, writings
|chat, exchange merchandise, meet fans....
|Get into the groove baby you've got to... check us out!
> IT provided the usual rantings and ravings you can instantly recognise
> are 100% content free due to the high presence of those *words* and
> "other words" that have been *****accentuated**** as if they *really*
> *mean* *something*:
[ I pressed PAGE DOWN ]
>
>Ok - very slow and very detailed - so even you should be able to follow
>with thinking while reading:
Still not sure it will understand you thou`, but then again life is
full of surprises...
>
>6. How it could be in the near future...
>
>6.1. We will play the game until forever - the one who dies first will
>lose (unfair - I'm on the road every day)...
>6.2. To increase my chances (see side note 6.1.) I start coding a
>post-o-matic, which generates replies to *each* of your postings.
Good idea. I thought of that one before, it would be funny to see
how it would handle not ever being able to get that all important
last word, hehe
troll vs for loop
odds on who has the last word,
troll: 10^100 : 1
for loop: 1 : 10^100
hahahah,
I'd love to see any program when it's done btw :-)
>--
>Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of Celine
>Dion? She never can compete with a great voice, you know...
>
uhmmm... That's an easy one, you took the words from my mouth!!
Celine is no match for Madonna because:
"She never can compete with a great voice, you know..."
:-)
bestwishes
No, it's just a new feeder, fact; it's not taking your "ignore" advice...at
all.
<giggle>
>On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 02:01:19 +0100, bv_schornak <now...@schornak.de> wrote:
>
>
<burp>
Danny: "And yes, we had sex. And yes, it was good." [Jul 14, 2001]
Danny's EX: "Any idea of me being his 'lap dog' is rubbish - he was crap at sex
because of his unattractiveness...haven't seen Daniel since 1998." [Feb 3,
2003]
>From: LoveMrs...@madonnaweb.com (Madonna Rulez)
>On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 02:01:19 +0100, bv_schornak <now...@schornak.de> wrote:
>
>
>>IT blabbered the usual banal diatribe:
>>
>
>[I deleted - if it ever said anything I would read it, but as it stands
>reading
>
> the telephone book would be much more interesting]
You comment on what you don't even read? Neat.
>From: LoveMrs...@madonnaweb.com (Madonna Rulez)
Hey, you've decided not to ignore...and instead of being mad that schornak
didn't take your ignore advice, you fall into the same trap...using the feeder
to feed.
Oh well...
---
>Hiya Bernhard,
>
> I gather you challenge us Mo fans to give you reasons to listen to
> Madonna in these thingies yeah ?!
>
Could be a very hard thing to do... ;)
> Exactly :) So you could check her out live, hearing a singer live
> is always going to be miles better than any recording; you're
> getting the real thing!. She's going to be touring again soon with
> the new album, so unlike John Denver you won't have to wait until hell
> freezes over to witness ... :-)
>
John Denver isn't one of my big favorites, but he was a musician who
wrote a lot of good songs. If not in overdoses, I always like to hear
his music. The same is valid for a few of Madonna's songs...
I've seen Madonna life acts in TV some times ago. Sorry, but it wasn't
very impressive - just another show... There were some life performances
on TV with Heather Nova and Dave Matthews ("Rock im Park", a huge life
event in Nuernberg each year), and I think, that Madonna never will beat
them in any way - the quality of music doesn't depend on the commercial
success...
It is just the difference between an actor and real musicians, isn't it?
Madonna is only playing her "role", while Heather Nova / Dave Matthews
are playing their music with much passion. They are giving away a part
of themselves, and even through a medium like TV or CD you can almost
feel their presence, if you hear the music. Ok - I have to admit, that
both of my examples are "gems" within a pool of crap, hard to beat by
most "artists"...
BTW - Hell *did* freeze over ... the Eagles said so (superb musicians,
no doubt)... ;)
Greetings from Augsburg
Bernhard Schornak
>Still not sure it will understand you thou`, but then again life is
>full of surprises...
>
Meanwhile, I think that I mis-underestimatedš YASP (yet another spamming
person) by far. First I thought, that it would be a little bit of a
challenge, but now it's only boring what YASP has to say - just
automated answers without any "spirit"...
š as America's best president since Bill Clinton would say...
>Good idea. I thought of that one before, it would be funny to see
>how it would handle not ever being able to get that all important
>last word, hehe
>
>troll vs for loop
>
>odds on who has the last word,
>
>troll: 10^100 : 1
>for loop: 1 : 10^100
>
>hahahah,
>
>I'd love to see any program when it's done btw :-)
>
As I have seen, Frank also was thinking about such a program. Maybe we
should start another Open Source project (codename: "YASP's last gasps")...
>>Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of Celine
>>Dion? She never can compete with a great voice, you know...
>>
>uhmmm... That's an easy one, you took the words from my mouth!!
>
>Celine is no match for Madonna because:
>"She never can compete with a great voice, you know..."
>
Ok - first some basic info about me. In 1978...1983 I was an active
musician and produced two records in 1980 + 1981. One was a single
sampler with 4 Munich kidpunk bands, called "Der Muenchen Sampler". The
second was a LP, called "Beerdigung / Tollwut", with one of the kidpunk
bands on the one side, and my own band "Beerdigung" (= funeral) on the
other side. "Beerdigung" was just a studio project - I engaged a drummer
and a singer, anything else was Gravedigger's work (since I have "grown"
a little bit, I skip the "The Happy" nowadays ;) ).
While trying to gather some other members for the band, I met a lot of
musicians and singers. Jam sessions with musicians of very different
styles are good lessons for hearing and getting a feeling for music,
rhythm and the "magic" music can do. Most times the "magic" is missing,
because "artists" are playing their stuff *by* heart rather than *from*
the heart...
The record was a big concession for my singer. She was influenced by
fast & heavy hardcore punk, so I played my music with about 150 ... 200
% of the speed I prefer to play in general. My real music may be
comparable with a mixture of Michael and Rudolf Schenker (Scorpions,
Michael Schenker Band), some of the melodious parts of the one or other
Scorpions song could be played by Gravedigger (I don't like often used
"standard" phrases)...
You may google with the topics to get the prove for authenticity (I am
the only living male person with the name Schornak in Germany).
I like music which bypasses the brain and hits the heart the direct way.
This is true for the scorpions in general, the early UFO, Blue Oyster
Cult, Heroes del Silencio and many, many more - not to forget Jimmy
Hendrix and Mark Knopfler, the best guitar players this planet ever has
seen.
But I'm not bound to metal, I also like the music of Enya or Loreena
McKinnett, Gálgahraun (a Finnish band performing old epic songs with
original instruments - it's really great!), Manau (French band, a
combination of celtic music with a rap singer), PJ Harvey (a multitalent
- she can smoke several Madonnas in one pipe!) and a lot more.
As you may see, I don't like commercial "music", because it is just
another industrial product - without any signs of real life. I sometimes
use the term "plastic", because it *is* artificial junk...
Now back to the topic - Madonna vs. Celine Dion:
Regardless of the fact, that Celine Dion's music really isn't my case,
her voice is one of the most powerful female voices on this planet. And
she has the ability to put a little piece of herself into each record,
so every song of her is unique. Imagine, that Madonna would have
performed the Titanic song (it's really bullcrap, except the voice). Do
you believe, that it would have the same power than the existing song? I
don't think, that Madonna is able to sing this way.
As she never will be able to sing like Amanda Marshall, Maggie Reilly,
Faith Hill, Shinead o'Connor, et cetera. It's just not Madonna's kind of
performance. She never sang to bring some content to the people, she
always was an actress, dancer, whatever. But she never will be somebody
I would call a musician. That's my opinion.
Of course, art and music are very subjective things, so I respect your
personal taste and opinion. But I don't think, that I ever will be the
big Madonna fan(atic!), because I'm nobody's fan(atic!). Maybe, there
are a lot of things, I don't know about Madonna - I just know the songs
played on the radio. And, as I told, there are some of her songs I like
(e.g. "La Isla Bonita"), but the mass is just commercial stuff.
Either I like a song or I don't like it... ;)
>Hey, you've decided not to ignore...and instead of being mad that schornak
>didn't take your ignore advice, you fall into the same trap...using the feeder
>to feed.
>
Hey, YASP - one thing you really should *never* forget:
Show respect for my family name! The name (van) Schornak exists for more
than 850 years now - and I don't like it, if you use it this way!
- - -
If you only give me reasons to do something *against* you, then you have
to live with the consequences. Would be a really urgent matter for you
to give me at least *one* reason why I should *not* launch a process
which can't be stopped after the initial step!
As I showed you more than once, I am a fair and straight person. I hate
it, if I have to do harm to somebody else, but you should give me the
prove that you are *worth* a fair handling. If you continue this way,
then I can't tolerate your activities much longer. Don't play with
unknown forces - you don't even have a clue what you're going to
trigger! This process - once started - will cost you a little bit more
than just the obvious sacrifice of your toys. People like you exist
everywhere (usenet, internet, CB and amateur radio), but finally - each
of them had to bleed for being stupid...
Do yourself a big favor and stop spamming at once!!!
Optionally you may start talking like a sane person - means:
1. Use only *one* entity (mental + physical) to post messages (might
save you some money, too)!
2. Use a short and qualified name, so everybody can remember it!
3. Talk *with* people, if you have to say something - instead of posting
masses of spam!
As you proved that you're not smart enough to get the basic knowledge:
Try <http://Schornak.de> - there you may find some vital info what I'm
talking about. Go bottom right and check the two linked sites. It may
take more than one week to gather the most important information. You
will get no useful connections with your AOL accounts, I bet (might be
one of the advantages for webmasters of registered sites)...
BTW - Usenet was intentionally created to exchange knowledge and to talk
*with* other people.
So - who do you think you are? The GOD of usenet? Let me tell you, that
you are *NOT* such an entity!!!
You can't deny other people to talk with each other, don't even *think*
of such impossible actions!
You should try to get one point: You are only _one__of__all_ users of
the usenet. With the same *rights* and the same *duties* as every other
user - nothing more, nothing less!
To hell \|/
Beerdigung rules! /t\
The Happy Gravedigger
aka Bernhard Schornak
--
Maybe one could tell me, why I should hear Madonna instead of No Doubt?
She can't beat Gwen, you know...
>From: bv_schornak now...@schornak.de
>
>
> Madonna Rulez wrote:
>
>>Still not sure it will understand you thou`, but then again life is
>>full of surprises...
>>
>
>Meanwhile, I think that I mis-underestimatedน YASP (yet another spamming
>person) by far. First I thought, that it would be a little bit of a
>challenge, but now it's only boring
So...if you *continue* to reply to postings that you consider to be too
"boring", it'll just prove how disjointed and controlled you are, I trust. ;)
<Snag>
>Greetings from Augsburg
>
--bv_schornak, caring; establishing its feedin' priorities...and refusing to
take Laura Fairhead's "ignore" advice... ;)
Thanks, pawn. ;P
<giggle>
Danny: "And yes, we had sex. And yes, it was good." [Jul 14 2001]
Danny's EX: "Any idea of me being his 'lap dog' is rubbish - he was crap at sex
because of his unattractiveness..haven't seen Daniel since 1998." [Feb 3 2003]
>X-Complaints-To: ab...@t-online.com
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>
>
>HACKER THREAT Noted...and FORWARDED...X-Complaints-To: ab...@t-online.com
>
I would really appreciate that you send your "evidence" to the above
address! Do it at once and don't forget to push the send button!
You posted at least 85 % of all messages in this newsgroup. A newsgroup
with more than one active member. Thus - you are not a "normal" usenet
user, of course, you are *levels* above an "average" user. Your
complaint will have a "special" weight...
You have proved one thing more than enough now - you are not worth any
mercy!
It was *your* *own* *decision* to trigger the next steps...
Have a nice time...
Bernhard Schornak
>You posted at least 85 % of all messages in this newsgroup. A newsgroup
>with more than one active member. Thus - you are not a "normal" usenet
>user, of course, you are *levels* above an "average" user. Your
>complaint will have a "special" weight...
>
"Posting" on Usenet is **far** different than making HACKER threats, but I
guess you just can't figure that out? ;)
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Really gettin' all frothied...aren't ya?
Oh well...