I think Britneys new album is 10 times better than her first ablum. How can you
say that it is "Stagnent", and Oops is not them most catchy song, there are at
least 5 songs that could be singles.
Thats just my 2 cents
Let's digress to Britney. Her first single, which incidentally is the most
catchy number in the album, is a rhythm for rhythm replica of Baby One More
Time. Not a good sign. The rest of the album carried on the same formula
that was found on her first album. And as she aged, so did the formula. And
it is dangerously close to its used by date. Artists must realise that as
fans grow older, the fans expect their idol to grow with them. By
continuously churning out the same formulaic tunes, fans will simply move on
to something they can relate to, as their dressing and outlook change. Don't
be giving me the "recruiting new fans" reason. If someone didn't "get" it
the first time, he probably won't the second time around if everything stays
the same. The Mutt Lange & Shania Twain collaboration didn't help either
because the production stuck too close to Britney's usual style. And Diane
Warren is a pandering songwriter who doesn't possess her own style.
Overall not a good sign for the more matured Britney. We shall see if this
album can better the 9 million standard set by Baby One More Time. But it'll
be a long shot that I will eat my words.
Cheesy Poofs>>>>>>>>
Good lord. You didn't actually buy the CD, did you? I hope that you do NOT eat
your words, BTW.
Actually, there's a reason for the "sophomore jinx" because many artists
experience--good or bad! 2nd albums aren't stereotypically the one that
seperates the "men from the boys" if you will...if they are better than the
first one, that's considered exceptional, usually
>....At the first listen of Britney Spears' second outing Oops I Did It Again,
>"stagnant" seems to be the word that keeps popping out of my mind. Usually,
>in the case of a hardworking artiste who takes her craft seriously, he or
>she will strive to improve or change the style of the second album
Actually, many 2nd albums are "more of the same" because they are afraid to
take chances that early on
>(very
>importantly) to avoid the critic's massacre. Let's use a gauge. Madonna.
Surprise, surprise :)
>Britney's idol. Her sophomore album, Like A Virgin, was much different from
>the first.
They were both pop albums and actually Madonna never seemed happy with LAV
because she thought it was too bubble-gum
>Her first self titled album was tight, sinewy, and raw, while LAV
>was a somewhat successful transition into mainstream pop
Fair enough :)
>Although
>artistically not as powerful as her first, it was the album that spoke of
>that time, the 80s. It got everyone talking about it, because it was a
>socially powerful album. It put sex in your face and politicians questioned
>the materialism that was advocated in the album
Okay, I see what you're saying...good points here :) But doesn't Britney's
version of "Satisfaction" do that as well? She completely redefines the song
and brings out the sexual frustration that (perhaps??) Mick and Keith didn't
have the balls to do previously :)
>The key words here:
>Different. Powerful. And it speaks.
Well, that's your opinion, of course :)
>Let's digress to Britney
Actually, the point of the review *is* Britney, the Madonna thing was a
digression...just letting ya know if you're thinking of trying for a reviewer
position at Spin anytime soon :)
> Her first single, which incidentally is the most
>catchy number in the album, is a rhythm for rhythm replica of Baby One More
>Time. Not a good sign.
Well, people groaned when they found out Madonna was putting out an album
called "Like a Prayer" when she had already put out "Like a Virgin,", remember?
:)
>The rest of the album carried on the same formula
I don't know about that...it seems more R&B flavored and the Shania
Twain/Mutt Lange song is pretty different from her other material as well
>that was found on her first album. And as she aged, so did the formula.
She's only like 2 years older! Give her a break! LOL
>And
>it is dangerously close to its used by date. Artists must realise that as
>fans grow older, the fans expect their idol to grow with them
Again, it's been 2 years...the fans haven't grown much older either for
goodness sakes!
> By
>continuously churning out the same formulaic tunes, fans will simply move on
>to something they can relate to, as their dressing and outlook change
You really want Britney to die off soon, don't you? :)
>Don't
>be giving me the "recruiting new fans" reason. If someone didn't "get" it
>the first time, he probably won't the second time around if everything stays
>the same.
Ya never know...I started to like the Spice Girls when the 2nd album came out
as did many critics and it wasn't that much of a departure
>The Mutt Lange & Shania Twain collaboration didn't help either
>because the production stuck too close to Britney's usual style.
I'd have to disagree with you there
>And Diane
>Warren is a pandering songwriter who doesn't possess her own style.
>
>
Says you! :) Diane has been around for a long time because she is
versitile...what side are you on? Supposedly Britney's bad for staying the
same but Warren is bad too because she changes too much? It doesn't make
sense...
>Overall not a good sign for the more matured Britney. We shall see if this
>album can better the 9 million standard set by Baby One More Time. But it'll
>be a long shot that I will eat my words.
>Cheesy Poofs
I have a feeling you might be...apparently it's selling quite well, but then
again just cause a CD sells well, that doesn't mean it's good
Yer mate,
Maureen
"I'd like to go, but it's a bit Noel and Meg, isn't it?"--Norman Cook (Fatboy
Slim to the kids)
"I'm going to go on stage in jeans, because last time I went on in my
mini-dresses and everything, and was asking for trouble"--Patsy Kensit
Gallagher
**John**
At the first listen of Britney Spears' second outing Oops I Did It Again,
"stagnant" seems to be the word that keeps popping out of my mind. Usually,
in the case of a hardworking artiste who takes her craft seriously, he or
she will strive to improve or change the style of the second album (very
importantly) to avoid the critic's massacre. Let's use a gauge. Madonna.
Britney's idol. Her sophomore album, Like A Virgin, was much different from
the first. Her first self titled album was tight, sinewy, and raw, while LAV
was a somewhat successful transition into mainstream pop. Although
artistically not as powerful as her first, it was the album that spoke of
that time, the 80s. It got everyone talking about it, because it was a
socially powerful album. It put sex in your face and politicians questioned
the materialism that was advocated in the album. The key words here:
Different. Powerful. And it speaks.
Let's digress to Britney. Her first single, which incidentally is the most
catchy number in the album, is a rhythm for rhythm replica of Baby One More
Time. Not a good sign. The rest of the album carried on the same formula
that was found on her first album. And as she aged, so did the formula. And
it is dangerously close to its used by date. Artists must realise that as
fans grow older, the fans expect their idol to grow with them. By
continuously churning out the same formulaic tunes, fans will simply move on
to something they can relate to, as their dressing and outlook change. Don't
be giving me the "recruiting new fans" reason. If someone didn't "get" it
the first time, he probably won't the second time around if everything stays
the same. The Mutt Lange & Shania Twain collaboration didn't help either
because the production stuck too close to Britney's usual style. And Diane
Warren is a pandering songwriter who doesn't possess her own style.
Overall not a good sign for the more matured Britney. We shall see if this
the Diamond certification means that the album has SHIPPED 12 million copies.
It might be that it has only sold 500,000, but the certification is based on
shipments
> I think Britney is great. All her songs are fab and she is still a nice
> person. For 18 and being so famous she is really mature. Her songs are
> catchy and her videos are great. I think like Madonna she has staying power.
I dunno about staying power, but what I've seen of Britney so far, I like
a lot!
Poor is the man...Whose pleasures depend...On the permission...Of another
Wanting...Needing...Waiting...For you...To justify my love...
* ^ ^ *
.Angela
@ . @
> ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY that her remake of "(I Can't Get No)
> Satisfaction" is superb.
I must say........I was pleasantly surprised by Britney's remake of (I Can't
Get No) Satisfaction. It's so far away from the original, and the production
is excellent, but that's probably due to Rodney Jerkins' production more
than anything else.....I'd hate to think how the song would have sounded had
Max Martin got his hands on it.
Chucky®
I'm not so sure she has the "staying power" Madonna has, but I think she will
be around a bit still :-)
BTW, even if her new song is a rip-off of the other, I don't care - it's still
really really catchy - and I like it :-)
Jennifer
http://www.studyofmadonna.com
Her music is very catchy. I'm not surprised people buy her CDs.
>I'm not so sure she has the "staying power" Madonna has, but I think she will
>be around a bit still :-)
Britney is only 19. I believe Madonna was in her middle 20s when she hit it
big. I'm pretty sure Britney will change her image alot, and the way she
portrays herself. She'll have to. There is no way anyone will take her
seriously if she is at 25, and still singing things like Ooops Baby I did it
one more time. (Yes, her new song is a complete ripoff of her own first hit.)
>BTW, even if her new song is a rip-off of the other, I don't care - it's
>still
>really really catchy - and I like it :-)
>
>
:) Oh you noticed it too? It's catchy, but it's a bad kind of catchy. It's
one of those things you don't want to have in your head.
I can respect her, though, as she did an interview with Howard Stern yesterday.
That takes some guts, especially with the questions he asked.
Wow! Ha.. didn't know she did that. They pulled Stern off the air here last
year. What did he ask her? And, how were her replies.. Just curious!
Thanks,
Jennifer
http://www.studyofmadonna.com
Rolling Stones magazine reported 9 million. Do read the article she gave to
recent RS (The issue with her on the cover).
--
Cheesy Poofs
Many sophomore pop albums are kinda the same in the sense that they stick to
the pop genre. However, they should reflect a different style to the
arrangement, production and songwriting.
> Okay, I see what you're saying...good points here :) But doesn't
Britney's
> version of "Satisfaction" do that as well? She completely redefines the
song
> and brings out the sexual frustration that (perhaps??) Mick and Keith
didn't
> have the balls to do previously :)
I thought "Satisfaction" was vocally not as strong as it should have been.
But these are just my opinions.
> Actually, the point of the review *is* Britney, the Madonna thing was a
> digression...just letting ya know if you're thinking of trying for a
reviewer
> position at Spin anytime soon :)
My fault. But I never thought of writing seriously anyway.
> Well, people groaned when they found out Madonna was putting out an
album
> called "Like a Prayer" when she had already put out "Like a Virgin,",
remember?
But stylistically they were so different.
> Again, it's been 2 years...the fans haven't grown much older either for
> goodness sakes
Oh yeah .... we're talking prepubscent teens here ...
> You really want Britney to die off soon, don't you? :)
On the contrary .... I want her to improve!
> Says you! :) Diane has been around for a long time because she is
> versitile...what side are you on? Supposedly Britney's bad for staying
the
> same but Warren is bad too because she changes too much? It doesn't make
> sense...
We're talking Britney here. So it makes sense. Diane Warren writes songs to
fit the artist and in the end, the song sounds just the same as the other
songs from the artist regardless of who the songwriter is. The songwriter
should write a song in his/her own style so as to bring out the
differentiation of his/her songs from the other ones by the same artist. Erm
...geddit?
After three listens to the Britney album (yeah, I BOUGHT it) ... I start to
realise all the fast songs have a similar sound to it. Intro : boom boom
boom signature ... stop. Vocals. Same boom boom beats. Same bassline. Same
synthesizer sounds?!?! Arrrghhh!!! Even Spice Girls sound different on the
same album (brassy arrangements for Stop Right Now Thank You Very Much and
the frentic samba feel to Spice Up Your Life).
That's what I mean by being different.
--
Cheesy Poofs
I was not able to catch it as I was in college classes. Probably the usual
Stern questions. Like, have you ever kissed another girl, blah blah blah. I
did pick up one thing that she admitted that she has not had a serious
relationship, and is a virgin. I definitely gained more respect for Britney.
She was probably real cute with her responses.
On Thu, 18 May 2000 01:27:44 +0800, "Striding Cloud"
<cas...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>Sophomore albums are usually the litmus test of an artiste. Whether she's
>got the staying power, whether it was a fluke, whether she's got the talent
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