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Keith Rainsley

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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I am a huge fan of Battletech and a small fan of Macross

How can the similarities between battletech mechs and macross mecha be
overlooked ( if it has )

Such designs as the Battle tech marauder
rifle man
war hammer
Crossbow
and more

are almost identical to macross mecha, which came first, and why has no one
sued ??

CavScout

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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In article <cRHF5.549$fk2....@news1.cableinet.net>,

They have and FASA can not use those mechs anymore in new materials.
BTW, they "borrowed" from MACROSS, CRUSHER JOE, DOUGRAM and others.


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Mark Nguyen <mnguyen@

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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CavScout wrote:

"Borrowed"? I thought it was "stole", hence all the years of litigation
ending with the guilty 'Mechs being virtually erased from history...

Mark


Keith Rainsley

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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Found out somthing else too

Battletech has a class of mach known as a LAM or land air mech, they have a
startling simerlarity to Veritech fighters :-)

Mark Nguyen <mnguyen@

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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Keith Rainsley wrote:

"Veritech fighters"? What're those?

Mark


Keith Rainsley

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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I thought..... that that was what vairable fighters were called,

Skull_One

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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In article <fHIF5.715$fk2....@news1.cableinet.net>,

"Keith Rainsley" <keith.r...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> I thought..... that that was what vairable fighters were called,
>
>
Here's my two cents: The variable fighters were finally dubbed
Valkyries (from the VF-1 Valkyrie, the original Macross Variable
Fighter and my personal favorite). However, the Macross series footage
was used by Harmony Gold to make up the first 36 episodes of Robotech.
Indeed, Robotech called the VF's veritechs, but most people here don't
really appreciate this series. I've taken enough flaming for
appreciating Robotech, which finally introduced me to Macross (enough
to make me stop caring about what people think of me), and I suggest
you don't mention too much about Robotech.

A small tip: Anything that transforms and starts with a VF- something
is Macross-related. If you see something else, such as VAF-6 or
whatever, check again.

Skull_One

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Keith

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>I thought..... that that was what vairable fighters were called,

"Valkyries"

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O.D.

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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They're called "Valkyries" in Macross.

They're called "Veritechs" when Macross is lackadaisically crammed into
Robotech.

And you have no idea how ill I felt when I saw those "Aerotech fighters"
flying overhead in Mechwarrior 2: Mercs = P

"Hey! What's that over the horizon?" I said. "They look a lot like...
!?@_@?!"

(Incidentally: Macross won in the last "Macross Universe Vs. Battletech
Universe" discussion ^_^)


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The Cat

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Oct 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/13/00
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In article <cRHF5.549$fk2....@news1.cableinet.net>,
keith.r...@cableinet.co.uk says...

> I am a huge fan of Battletech and a small fan of Macross
>
> How can the similarities between battletech mechs and macross mecha be
> overlooked ( if it has )
>
> Such designs as the Battle tech marauder
> rifle man
> war hammer
> Crossbow
> and more
>
> are almost identical to macross mecha,
Are identical

> which came first,
Macross

> and why has no one
> sued ??

They did, and Fasa can no longer use those designs.

The Cat

Comic-Kaze

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Oct 14, 2000, 12:58:44 AM10/14/00
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Side note, in Battletech, those Valkryie rip-offs called Wasps in Robot
(Battroid Mode), LAMs in Gerwalk mode, and just fighters in fighter mode.

Brrrrr...remember the old Battletech PC games? I cringed when the pixelated
CGA battle animation in the corner showed a molested Valkryie in wacky
colors firing laser weapons.
-Jeremy


O.D.

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Oct 14, 2000, 1:06:01 AM10/14/00
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Does everyone have a PC Battletech Universe horror story...?

^o^


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James Li

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> They're called "Valkyries" in Macross.
>
> They're called "Veritechs" when Macross is lackadaisically crammed into
> Robotech.
>
> And you have no idea how ill I felt when I saw those "Aerotech fighters"
> flying overhead in Mechwarrior 2: Mercs = P
>
> "Hey! What's that over the horizon?" I said. "They look a lot like...
> !?@_@?!"

What about Shogo with many of the Characters that are similar to Macross and
with names from Robotech.

James


O.D.

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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Shogo was a giant robot genre/Masamune Shirow parody.

Near the beginning of the game, you get to wander around the crew quarters,
and you see names on the door, like "I. Dyson" and "M. Kusanagi" ^_^

Shoot your weapon in a room full of civilians, and you get the worst anime
dubbing this side Dragon Ball Z...

But I don't remember any similar names. Would you mind compiling a list to
jog my memory?

(*O.D., who only bought Shogo because he was promised a Macross Total
Conversion. This was before my "listen to The Cat's prophesy before you
look forward to anything Macross" policy = P )


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James Li

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Well The names were on the Doors. Like R.Hunter...

James

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O.D.

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OH! I thought you meant somewhere else! LOL!!

Yeah, the crew quarters were good for some laughs ^_^


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Mark Nguyen <mnguyen@

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"O.D." wrote:

> Does everyone have a PC Battletech Universe horror story...?

Yes. I called it "The Eighth Grade". :)

Mark


Anthony Evans

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Oct 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/14/00
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I'm a big fan of both. WHen I was a teen my friends wanted me to mix both
together in a game. Now THAT was intresting.. and htey still play it when we
get together. Its funny thinking of an atlas getting stomped by a wasp oops
I mean Valkyrie.. hehe

Anthony

CavScout

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Oct 15, 2000, 12:18:32 AM10/15/00
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In article <xvIF5.8$mU....@jekyl.ab.tac.net>,

"Mark Nguyen <mnguyen@" <"yucky>hotmail.com"> wrote:
> > They have and FASA can not use those mechs anymore in new materials.
> > BTW, they "borrowed" from MACROSS, CRUSHER JOE, DOUGRAM and others.
>
> "Borrowed"? I thought it was "stole", hence all the years of
litigation
> ending with the guilty 'Mechs being virtually erased from history...

Hence the quotes...

Keith Rainsley

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Oct 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/15/00
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I still love battltech, its got a certain feel to it, unlike manga mecha,
its kinda grittier and I just love it. But I love anime mecha too its a
contrast but a cool metalic one

Duran Twiggans

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May 20, 2022, 11:25:38 PM5/20/22
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Ok so, what actually happened was that FASA bought the rights for the art from Macross, etc. from the artists. Harmonny Gold bought the right to the animation, and more importantly distribution and marketing to the same. Because HG had the marketing rights and FASA was selling "toys" based on the art/images that they had rights to. (PS: HG had more money than FASA at the time, which plays no small part in legal disputes).

So basically upstart company without legal council got bent over a barrel for not being a legal expert.

Fortunately, both Piranha Games and Harebrained Schemes have since both won legal fight over the re-seen modified version of the old mechs and most of them still look really nice, legally different but still in context for written description.
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