Official Newsgroup Poll 3/30/02

The Cat

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Mar 30, 2002, 1:49:45 PM3/30/02

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Is Keith a Macross Nazi?

A. Yes
B. No

I vote: A. Yes

--
The Cat
"We will be back"

O.D.

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Mar 30, 2002, 5:11:13 PM3/30/02

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If Keith didn't exist, he'd have to be created.

I vote "Yes."

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Comic-Kaze

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Mar 30, 2002, 6:50:03 PM3/30/02

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Are you implying that in order for a Macross community to exist, a Keith is
neccessary for its propagation? Is he an essential component of any viable
Macrossian fan infrastructure? That without him, all would collapse into
congenial smatterings of platitudes and utter boredom?

-Jeremy

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FoRTiNbRas926

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Mar 30, 2002, 9:04:50 PM3/30/02

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> Is Keith a Macross Nazi?
>> >
>> > A. Yes
>> > B. No
>> > I vote: A. Yes

>> > The Cat
>> > "We will be back"

I vote "No" because Keith is an extreme Macross 7/Basara enthusiast, not a
Macross Nazi.

-James AKA Fortinbras926

O.D.

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Mar 30, 2002, 10:03:13 PM3/30/02

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Okay, okay. I didn't think through the ramifications of using the saying
for parody! Ever since I saw it at the end of Deus Ex, I've been wanting to
do something silly with it!! Are you happy now!? Now you have the truth!!
I'm just a schmuck who likes to throw around bastardized sayings! I am the
Carl Macek of quotes!! I am like Big West when Kawamori is not looking!!
@_@

Errrmm... Let's try bastardizing my way back to respectability by using
this (click to compare ^_^ http://nowscape.com/atheism/chris2.htm):

"Does Keith have value?". I answered YES. My perspective may be a bit
different from a lot of Macross fans. He doesn't have any value TO ME
either as a guide to truth or even as an adequate "moral" guide for society,
which I guess is the way most people would look at the question, whether
they are Macross or Robotech fans. But if Keith didn't have some value to
people generally, he wouldn't exist, in an evolutionary sense, in the
environment of social ideas.

This is pretty much the thought that led me to Macross 7 back in 2000.
Ideas commonly exist because they are in some way a good model or reflection
of reality. This leads to the argument that, if Keith's belief is so
widespread throughout the world, there must be some truth to it, or there
must be a Minmay. I didn't see any way to answer this argument, short of a
personal encounter with Minmay, until I came to realize that Keith had other
values to people that were so strong that it exists IN SPITE of being a bad
model for message board discussion.

One important value is illustrated by the old saying, "Keith is regarded
by the Diehard Macross Fan as truthful, by the Robotech Fan as a twat, and
by the Continuity Buff as useful." Keith is very detrimental to every type
of dictator and tyrant, grand or petty, from Carl Macek and Harmony Gold,
down to your classic New Generation patriarch next door.

Another important value is hinted at by another old saying, "If Keith
didn't exist, we would have to invent Him." In one sense, Keith is
entertainment. In another he is crude psychotherapy, providing illusions
that allow people to function in spite of their fears. Afraid of never
seeing a domestic release of DYRL? Come to Keith and you will live again
after you import. Is the Harmony Gold/Big West legal fiasco too complex for
you? Lean on Keith's vitriol and forget all that difficult licensing and
trademark stuff. Is Harmony Gold too unfair, too oppressive? Forget all
that risky Robotech.com moderation stuff, and just believe that Keith will
provide justice in the Macross World forum and AFM, punishing the wicked and
rewarding the good but oppressed. In this sense Keith really is, "the
opiate of the masses."

This is why I try to discourage Robotechies from believing that Harmony
Gold will triumph over Big West in the end, because "truth will eventually
triumph." We can't be so sure and complacent about that. Robotech has a
lot of "value" to people, so we can't just wait for Robotech to die.

We will have to come out and kill it, and then stand guard over its grave,
doing our best to inoculate society against its resurgence!!! @_@

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Paul Santa Cruz

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:18:37 AM3/31/02

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O.D..... shut up. ^__^

-Paul, who welcomes all back.

O.D.

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Mar 31, 2002, 10:17:55 AM3/31/02

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Hey, it's the best I can do until Noriko reappears XD

FoRTiNbRas926

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Mar 31, 2002, 3:00:02 PM3/31/02

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>> O.D..... shut up. ^__^
>>
>> -Paul, who welcomes all back.
>
>
>Hey, it's the best I can do until Noriko reappears XD

> "O.D." ros...@hotmail.com
>Date: 2002.03.31 7:17 AM Pacific

No no no norikoooo! ^_^

-James AKA Fortinbras926

Jeffrey T. Jhee

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Mar 31, 2002, 3:18:04 PM3/31/02

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Was she even that much of a Macross fan?

Keith

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Mar 31, 2002, 6:55:20 PM3/31/02

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Are you guys fucking cocks? Yes. Am I a Macross Nazi? No, I just have better
attention to continuity detail than the average bear.

~Keith
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Kanashii dekigotoga blue-ni someta kokoromo
Tenshi no enogu de nurikaeruyo
Omoinomamani -Lynn Minmay
~~~
ORE NO UTA WO KIITE! -Basara Nekki
-=-=-=-=-=-=-

http://members.aol.com/KeithL78/macross

Comic-Kaze

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Apr 1, 2002, 11:51:57 PM4/1/02

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But Bears can catch Salmon from the river as they return to their natural
spawning grounds.
Macross provides no edible sustanance and given a choice of Salmon or
Macross to survive, I would have to go with Salmon.

-Jeremy

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O.D.

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Apr 2, 2002, 12:12:23 PM4/2/02

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How much acid does it take to get to the chewy center of a Macross DVD????

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James Li

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Apr 2, 2002, 6:57:56 PM4/2/02

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Don't think of it as Bears and Salmons. Think of it this way, every
Religion needs a Fanatical fundamental element, and so for Macross Keith is
that Element.

James

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Jeffrey T. Jhee

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Apr 2, 2002, 8:23:49 PM4/2/02

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Who needs Keith? No offense to the guy, but most of us can live content
lives as Macross fans w/o him.

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Keith

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Apr 5, 2002, 4:31:02 AM4/5/02

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>
>Who needs Keith? No offense to the guy, but most of us can live content
>lives as Macross fans w/o him.

And just what have you ever contributed?

Jeffrey T. Jhee

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Apr 5, 2002, 8:16:32 AM4/5/02

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Look, the only qualification to be a fan is to enjoy the product. There are
thousands of Macross fans around the world who've never heard of either of
us. Do our "contributions" have any effect on them? Heck no. They like
the series for what it is, regardless of what you or I or Egan Loo or even
Kawamori might have to say. I don't know why you are taking an issue to my
statement...

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Keith

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Apr 5, 2002, 6:07:18 PM4/5/02

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I'm taking issue because this is such a fucking dumbass topic to begin with. If
you feel the need to chime in with how unimportant I am, then why shouldn't I
with how unimportant you are?

Jeffrey T. Jhee

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Apr 5, 2002, 6:59:09 PM4/5/02

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Well then I'm sorry you took offense to a comment I figured was rather
harmless. No need to get bent out of shape.

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