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Ken McM.

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Nov 28, 2005, 11:57:04 PM11/28/05
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A quick calculation on the back of a napkin:
I'm guessing about 100 cups of coffee ($400)
- plus a piece of pumpkin pie and a piece of blueberry pie.

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Ken McM.

Ken McM.

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Nov 29, 2005, 12:07:02 AM11/29/05
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Oh yeah, I used a formula involving pie * r squared.

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Ken McM.

DDY

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Nov 29, 2005, 1:46:09 AM11/29/05
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Ken McM. says...

>A quick calculation on the back of a napkin:
>I'm guessing about 100 cups of coffee ($400)
>- plus a piece of pumpkin pie and a piece of blueberry pie.

I wouldn't be surprised if we learn in the "Gazette" that
it was just colored water. Water doesn't change
temperature very easily. Would it really cool that
much going that distance (and in a minute's time)?

I'll bet it was colored water, just as the
various alcoholic beverages Dave knocks
back during cooking demonstrations.


David D

Stephan Lemonjello Jr.

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Nov 29, 2005, 2:27:11 AM11/29/05
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I wasn't surprised at all that it arrived cold, since it had to go
through hundreds of feet of "cold" tubing.

However, I was surprised that Dave didn't say..."mmmmm, tastes like
plastic tubing."

jj

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Nov 29, 2005, 3:19:24 AM11/29/05
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DDY <DDY_m...@newsguy.com> wrote:

>I wouldn't be surprised if we learn in the "Gazette" that
>it was just colored water. Water doesn't change
>temperature very easily. Would it really cool that
>much going that distance (and in a minute's time)?

Well you figure the tubing that was outside of the buildings would be
the temperature of late afternoon NYC in late Nov. So you figure the
first couple of feet of the slug of coffee/colored water that filled
Dave's cup passed through ~500 ft of this cold tubing.

I am curious how difficult/easy getting city permits to do this sort
of thing is, how many hours in advance they set up the tubing and if
they did a test or "undry" run.

Jay

Donz5

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Nov 29, 2005, 3:40:40 AM11/29/05
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jj wrote:


>Well you figure the tubing that was outside of the buildings would be
>the temperature of late afternoon NYC in late Nov.  So you figure the
>first couple of feet of the slug of coffee/colored water that filled
>Dave's cup  passed through ~500 ft of this cold tubing.


It was unseasonably warm in NYC on Monday. By around 4:40 PM, when the
coffee journey took place, it was 60 degrees.

Ric

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Nov 29, 2005, 5:03:30 AM11/29/05
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"Ken McM." <kmcm...@bcpl.net> wrote in message
news:438BDFA0...@bcpl.net...

I sorta remember a convoluted system of tubing delivering coffee to the desk
years ago.


bostonbill41

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Nov 29, 2005, 5:46:14 AM11/29/05
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When did a guy start selling clothes outside the theater, as if that
area is not congested enough already.
And did the tube break or did they start breaknig it down after the bit
( see Still Shots).
I liked it if only for the fact that it probably took them all day to
set it up.

Bill

foxys...@aol.com

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Nov 29, 2005, 6:26:42 AM11/29/05
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Fake handbags and scarves and mittens and stuff. They were there on
the 17th - I seem to recall them being there back in June, too.

bostonbill41

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:01:14 AM11/29/05
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Thanks Foxy. I don't recall seeing them last spring. It's already
crowded there during show days,.

Pat Fleet

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:20:53 AM11/29/05
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Donz, is there any afl dues money in the bank? I propose getting T-shirts
for the pie committee, all past & present pie contest winners, pie guessers,
and math whizzes. Here's a lovely gift item:

http://tinyurl.com/8tv7q

Ken McM.

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Nov 29, 2005, 9:23:46 AM11/29/05
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Ah, but they were using nitrogen to propel the coffee.
Did the nitrogen, confined in the tank, "rob" the coffee of heat?
And why did the tube break?
All interesting questions.

But perhaps Helen can give us her estimate of the volume of the tube
vs. the volume of a standard mocha latte and come up with how many cups
of coffee was sent from the shop to the Big Show.

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Ken McM.

Ken McM.

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Nov 29, 2005, 9:36:14 AM11/29/05
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jj wrote:
>
>
><snip>
> I am curious how difficult/easy getting city permits to do this sort
> of thing is, how many hours in advance they set up the tubing and if
> they did a test or "undry" run.
>
> Jay

Thought it was funny about Dave mentioning about the advance of cable TV.

We see the shot of the tube hanging from all number of things until it gets
to the corner of the street. Then it goes to a scissor lift.
That's where they probably saved some grief.
The cable industry normally rents space on poles from electrical or telephone
companies. So it looked like they avoid the time and expense of dealing with
utility companies. And it looked like they were able to go diagonally across the street.

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Ken McM.

Donz5

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Nov 29, 2005, 12:47:29 PM11/29/05
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Auntie Patz wrote:


>Donz, is there any afl dues money in the bank?


Right now, it's in the bank account of a mastering engineer. I'll get
it back, I promise!

upstateNY

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Nov 29, 2005, 1:26:37 PM11/29/05
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Ken McM. wrote:
>
> Ah, but they were using nitrogen to propel the coffee.
> Did the nitrogen, confined in the tank, "rob" the coffee of heat?
> And why did the tube break?
> All interesting questions.
>
> But perhaps Helen can give us her estimate of the volume of the tube
> vs. the volume of a standard mocha latte and come up with how many cups
> of coffee was sent from the shop to the Big Show.
>
> --
>
> Ken McM.

The clear tube broke because it wasn't made to take pressure. Pressure
tubing is reinforced by nylon thread, but it wouldn't be transparent
enough to see the passage of the coffee. When Dave closed the valve in
the studio, the pressure of the coffee/nitrogen rose until the tube
burst. Next time a pressure relief valve would be a good idea.
The word 'pressure' was used in every sentence!
Well, I was impressed.

Mark L

upstateNY

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Nov 29, 2005, 1:27:03 PM11/29/05
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Ken McM. wrote:
>
> Ah, but they were using nitrogen to propel the coffee.
> Did the nitrogen, confined in the tank, "rob" the coffee of heat?
> And why did the tube break?
> All interesting questions.
>
> But perhaps Helen can give us her estimate of the volume of the tube
> vs. the volume of a standard mocha latte and come up with how many cups
> of coffee was sent from the shop to the Big Show.
>
> --
>
> Ken McM.

The clear tube broke because it wasn't made to take pressure. Pressure

Brad Hill

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Nov 29, 2005, 1:58:45 PM11/29/05
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DDY wrote:

> I'll bet it was colored water, just as the
> various alcoholic beverages Dave knocks
> back during cooking demonstrations.

You're on. I say it was coffee. I think Dave likes his stunts done
honestly.

Brad
www.bradhill.com

This old Bob

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Nov 29, 2005, 2:18:16 PM11/29/05
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I thought Dave had to give up coffee!


Tom Wolper

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Nov 29, 2005, 2:56:59 PM11/29/05
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Ric wrote:
> "Ken McM." <kmcm...@bcpl.net> wrote in message
> news:438BDFA0...@bcpl.net...
>
>>A quick calculation on the back of a napkin:
>>I'm guessing about 100 cups of coffee ($400)
>>- plus a piece of pumpkin pie and a piece of blueberry pie.
>
> I sorta remember a convoluted system of tubing delivering coffee to the desk
> years ago.

What I wonder is if the idea came from the show or from Starbucks's marketing
department.

Tom W

katycren

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Nov 29, 2005, 4:22:07 PM11/29/05
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Tom Wolper wrote:

>
> What I wonder is if the idea came from the show or from Starbucks's marketing
> department.
>

The idea came from the Late Show. They called Starbucks's PR agency to
see if they would be interested, and the PR firm sold the idea to
Seattle (Starbucks's home office).

Kate

katycren

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Nov 29, 2005, 4:31:45 PM11/29/05
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DDY wrote:

> I wouldn't be surprised if we learn in the "Gazette" that
> it was just colored water. Water doesn't change
> temperature very easily. Would it really cool that
> much going that distance (and in a minute's time)?
>
> I'll bet it was colored water, just as the
> various alcoholic beverages Dave knocks
> back during cooking demonstrations.
>

I'm pretty sure the coffee was real decaf.

Here's what the Wahoo Gazette says:
http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/exclusives/wahoo/


COFFEE FROM STARBUCKS - BIG MONEY ON IT NOT WORKING Dave is thirsting
for some Starbucks coffee and tonight, to satisfy his desire, we rigged
up something really special. From the Starbucks across the street and
down the block, we have a direct link via 550 feet of clear plastic
tubing. Dave has a spigot at his desk. The source is in Starbucks. The
power to get the coffee from Starbucks to Dave's desk is supplied by a
nitrogen tank at Starbucks. We turn on the camera at Starbucks and meet
and greet Brad Simanski at the counter. Before the show, I learned that
Brad isn't a counter person, but a barister.

Barista: Technically, someone who has been professionally trained
in the art of espresso preparation. The term is often used simply to
describe someone who excels at espresso making, regardless of their
training.

When all is ready, Brad the Barista turns on the power and Dave's decaf
coffee is sent on its way. The camera follows the coffee leaving the
n/e c/o 54th and Broadway. Across 54th is goes, then across Broadway,
through the Ed Sullivan Theater doors, through the lobby, down the side
of the theater and to the spigot. Dave turns on the faucet to enjoy a
nice delicious cup of Starbucks. Complains the customer; "It's too
cold." This technology is still in its infancy stage and portions still
need to be worked out. Over all, though, a success. The coffee from
Starbucks was a success. Big money was lost on this bit. No, not on the
creating of the whole thing . . . but on the money bet that it wouldn't
work. It was rehearsed once with a modicum of success. For the show, we
were very happy with the results.

Bob/Nekk

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:47:10 PM11/29/05
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A little correction on Foxy's response (...back in June....): "...back
in May...". DaveCon was in May this year, not in June. But now that I
think about this, I got a feeling I'm going to get hit with a line more
like, "Who was talking about DaveCon?" (slowly walking backwards......)

Alan Page

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Nov 29, 2005, 8:53:11 PM11/29/05
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"This old Bob" wrote...

>I thought Dave had to give up coffee!

He gave up the caffeine. Sharon & I had a taste of his coffee back in
2002.

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Alan

AFL Dave's Mom's Thanksgiving Pie
Thanksgiving-Pie-Guessing Grand Champion 2005
www.best-page.us

~WWWWW~
What a Wonderful Web We Weave


SG

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Nov 29, 2005, 10:03:47 PM11/29/05
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Heard on the radio today that some guy from Houston is attempting
to drink at EVERY Starbucks. He has already visited over 4000 of
them and already starting to return to some cities to visit the
new ones built since he's been there. Starbucks at present rate
builds 11 new stores in the US and 3 internationally every week
with plans on 1000 new stores next year (most on same block as
existing stores, LOL). Thought it was funny when Dave asked the
kid if they were opening a new store next door and another one
upstairs. Something tells me this guy has his work cut out for
him.


Traci

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Nov 29, 2005, 10:27:30 PM11/29/05
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Donz5 says...
Oh, crap, does this mean we have to start paying you not to give us
CD's?


Traci

"I am not going to ruin a $75 buzz with a $2 cheeseburger."
-John Bowman

Traci

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Nov 29, 2005, 10:28:00 PM11/29/05
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Pat Fleet says...
Niiiiiice. Looks just like me.
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Tom Cronin

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Nov 30, 2005, 10:49:14 AM11/30/05
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Pat Fleet wrote:
> Donz, is there any afl dues money in the bank? I propose getting T-shirts
> for the pie committee, all past & present pie contest winners, pie guessers,
> and math whizzes. Here's a lovely gift item:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8tv7q

Sure... I could wear this t-shirt on the days that my "I Am A Mouth
Breathing Geek" t-shirt is in the wash.


Tom

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