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horse

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Oct 1, 2003, 7:27:14 PM10/1/03
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Martyn,

I hope you can live with yourself - I've just discovered that i can't live
without a 101!

I thought I'd got over my initial infatuation years ago. (Whilst I was a
teenager I first saw a 101 at the Beverley Museum of Army transport (near
York)) and I thought 'Wow!' what a motor!, I want one!

Since then, every time I've seen a 101, I've gone weak at the knees! I know
it's pathetic, but what can you do??

I've just got around to looking at your 101 website, and it's rekindled my
desire to get a 101 GS, RHD.

(I love your tyres! - awesome!)

I know I'll end up spending a fortune on this project, but I hope you will
feel some sympathy for me, and persuade me that I'm going to do the right
thing!

I'm not crazy am I?

Regards,

Andy.

Mr.Nice.

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Oct 2, 2003, 1:34:04 PM10/2/03
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Twas Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:27:14 +0100 when horse <ho...@home.com> put
finger to keyboard producing:

Welcome,
to the dark side....

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Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
___________________________________________________________
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Kay

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Oct 2, 2003, 1:40:41 PM10/2/03
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> I thought I'd got over my initial infatuation years ago. (Whilst I was a
> teenager I first saw a 101 at the Beverley Museum of Army transport (near
> York)) and I thought 'Wow!' what a motor!, I want one!

Once bitten!!!

> I've just got around to looking at your 101 website, and it's rekindled my
> desire to get a 101 GS, RHD.

Wish you had said a few months ago I just gave mine to my father-in-law (it
was my late hubbys)

> I know I'll end up spending a fortune on this project, but I hope you will
> feel some sympathy for me, and persuade me that I'm going to do the right
> thing!

Like the rest of us

> I'm not crazy am I?

You have to be to own one

K

--
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101 GS - Tommy (father-in-law got it)
and I can't drive any of them :-(
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Larry

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Oct 2, 2003, 3:11:06 PM10/2/03
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My biggest puzzle is how on erth does any one manage to get into the cab ?

--
Larry

"We are all of one mind, one equal mind, and if each of us persists in being
the centre of our own existence we are all doomed to suffer at each others
hands. I cannot exist on my own without you, neither can you be without me,
what is the world wide web about after all?. We are interdependent whether
we are aware of the fact or not"

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Alex

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Oct 2, 2003, 3:29:31 PM10/2/03
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>
>There's a strange and developing lust that goes with a 101 - which is
>why I now have 2 of them. The thing is, to the uninitiated they can
>seem quirky - however once you _own_ one, you'll know why they have
>become the 'Holy Grail' of the Landie world. You will make lots of
>new friends - including the manager of your local filling station :-)

>
>>I'm not crazy am I?
>
>Well, I think a little bit of 'being totally bonkers' is necessary for
>owning a 101 - live with it, be happy :-)
>

I know someone who thinks I'm crazy to be selling mine though.....

(No, it's not a GS)

Alex

Llandrovers!

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Oct 2, 2003, 4:13:25 PM10/2/03
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On 2/10/03 8:39 pm, in article i5vonvc0fcfqb6d1o...@4ax.com,
"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 20:11:06 +0100, "Larry" <N...@larry-arnold.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My biggest puzzle is how on erth does any one manage to get into the cab ?
>

> Yeah - it takes a little getting used to...
>
> The 'standard' 101 has some 'steps' bolted to the wheel, see:
>
> http://www.101fc.net/grumble-old/101fc-27-08-2000-026.jpg
>
> The use of these is an art one soon develops when one generally only
> wears sandals!
>
> Now, obviously these steps had to go when I had the new wheels made,
> and eventually got the tyres in from the States... So, 'the great god
> Warren' fabricated some 'steplettes' - almost to my very own design -
> but better. See:
>
> http://www.101fc.net/grumble-wheels/2002-03-24-027.jpg
>
> As the height has increased by a good couple of inches, there's a real
> 'knack' involved. Having said this, my dog seems to have mastered it
> pretty well. Better, in fact, than I at times :-)
>
> Others have their own strategies - Kay especially so - which I'm sure
> she will explain herself.
>
> Go on Larry, your S3 is only the start. You have the hat - now work
> toward a 101 :-)

Yeah, they are a nice vehicle - I'd have one myself as a camper if only I
had the storage space for it....

--
Regards;
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2003 Discovery Td5 GS5 c/w CDL - brilliance!
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Alex

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Oct 2, 2003, 4:31:40 PM10/2/03
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>>
>>I know someone who thinks I'm crazy to be selling mine though.....
>
>I know lots of people who think you're slightly more than bonkers for
>selling it - although I guess you're right, in that if you aren't
>using it, and do have another project on the go, then it's nicer for
>it to be owned by someone who will get use and enjoyment out of it.

That's what I thought. And I now have another project on the go,
thanks to someone giving me a fully restored SWB IIa rolling Chassis,
engine & box. All (!!) I have to do is fit my IIa bodywork to it.

>
>I don't s'pose your partner could be talked into buying it from you?
>Best of both worlds then, and he'd always have a handy mechanic on
>hand to sort the odd issue or two... :-)
>

Yeah, like he's got any money. I'm trying to reduce my outgoings by
giving up the garage it's in and saving myself £300 a year, not to
mention the £160 in tax. I mean, it's cost me £600 since it was put in
the garage and it's done about 750km in that year. Besides, he fancies
something a little more in the Classic Vehicle line if he was going to
buy a car.

Oh, and he's my boyfriend, not my partner. :D

Alex

Llandrovers!

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Oct 2, 2003, 5:15:50 PM10/2/03
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On 2/10/03 9:55 pm, in article 7p3pnv8gdekvtj7kp...@4ax.com,

"Mother" <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

>I'm not really as socially aware and politically correct as many think, sadly.
>
>
> Martyn

We've realised!

wanders off, whistling innocently........

Kay

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Oct 2, 2003, 6:21:28 PM10/2/03
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> >My biggest puzzle is how on erth does any one manage to get into the cab
?

> Others have their own strategies - Kay especially so - which I'm sure
> she will explain herself.

at the moment I use a Brevit but will upgrade to a ladder as the standard
step is a bit of a problem when ya right leg don't work right.

;-) K

Tom Woods

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Oct 2, 2003, 7:53:54 PM10/2/03
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:27:14 +0100, horse <ho...@home.com> wrote:

>I'm not crazy am I?

You're crazy!

Who'd want one of those stupid 101 things? :-)

>I know I'll end up spending a fortune on this project, but I hope you will
>feel some sympathy for me, and persuade me that I'm going to do the right
>thing!

Add a bit to that 'fortune', just to be on the safe side :)

Do as Martyn says, and join the club.
Nobody seems to have mentioned yet that theres also a 101 discussion
group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/101/ which is pretty useful.

If youre looking at buying one, then the club has a fair few for sales
in the magazine. Also keep an eye out at www.milweb.net (theres links
to lots of dealers on there too)

Tom

Alex

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Oct 3, 2003, 9:55:18 AM10/3/03
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:55:56 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>http://www.luckwill.com - are children safe at Land Rover events?
>=================================================================
>
>On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 21:31:40 +0100, Alex <nospa...@cbmsys.co.uk>
>wrote:


>
>>Yeah, like he's got any money. I'm trying to reduce my outgoings by
>>giving up the garage it's in and saving myself £300 a year, not to
>>mention the £160 in tax. I mean, it's cost me £600 since it was put in
>>the garage and it's done about 750km in that year.
>

>I wonder how much it has appreciated in value during that time,
>though? I guess, (if I remember correctly what you paid for it) that
>even sat, paying tax and MOTing it each year - you'd still be well
>into profit - more so each month... 101s are, price wise, like a
>rising balloon. The question is, how long can you hang on to the
>rope?

Yes, you know what I paid for it. As for appreciating value, you're
right. Assuming you bought yours back in '98 from Craddocks, they were
selling them off at £1500 a time. I think the going rate for an ambi
is now somewhere around £3000-£3500, T&T. (A GS is around £2000-2500)
I've had 3 or 4 people who were prepared to offer me £1500, without
repairs, sight unseen.

I guess I'm just greedy! Although seriously, I need the money for
other things, and if nobody is going to pay me what it's worth, I'll
keep the damn thing, rather than let it go too cheaply.

Alex


Tom Woods

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Oct 4, 2003, 8:08:04 AM10/4/03
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:37:22 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>http://www.luckwill.com - are children safe at Land Rover events?
>=================================================================
>

>On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:55:18 +0100, Alex <nospa...@cbmsys.co.uk>
>wrote:


>
>>Yes, you know what I paid for it. As for appreciating value, you're
>>right. Assuming you bought yours back in '98 from Craddocks, they were
>>selling them off at £1500 a time. I think the going rate for an ambi
>>is now somewhere around £3000-£3500, T&T.
>

>A good example, 4K - an 'original condition' - i.e., with all of the
>original equipment 5K

In one of the mags last month (may have been the month before),
Craddocks had an ambi, which was LPG'd, resprayed and MOT'd for £3500

Are ambis really worth more as 'original'?. is this compared to
'shabby, just left the MOD' condition?

>The longer you hold onto it, the more you'll get for it. QED, isn't
>life a sh!t :-)

That's what i keep telling my parents about all the cars i'm stashing
in their garden.. "Give it 5 years, it'll be a classic and somebody
will want it.."

Austin Shackles

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Oct 4, 2003, 8:42:52 AM10/4/03
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On or around Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:37:22 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Who knows, it only takes six numbers and you may decide to keep it?
>(or scrap it and buy Dorset...)

I don't think a lottery win would allow you to buy Dorset. Not that overall
I've that much time for the place, but even so, some people seem quite
attached to bits of it.

'ere, now that's summat worth a lighthearted discussion:

presume that you've just won a million quid on the lottery or other
jammy-git method of getting instantly rich.

wot yer gonna do with it?

Personally, I reckon I'd invest about half in something reasonably secure
(inasmuch as any investment can be that these days) and spend the rest
having fun. I'd probably buy a new Range Rover, 'cos I think they're cool,
ditto I expect a 101 (or maybe a Unimog). I expect I'd buy some
suitably-remote property with some nice big sheds to keep automotive stuff
in.

and a boat of some kind. Not a gold-plated yacht (and in fact, you'd not
get much of a gold-plated yacht for a mere half-million...) but summat like
a decent-sized trawler or such which was suitable for ocean-use. Converting
this would be a fun way of occupying time.

Oh, and probably a PPL and perhaps an aircraft to go with it, although it
might be a better bet to hire such when yer wanted it. Helicopter licence
would be handy, too, and would allow of doing odd jobs flying choppers etc.
if the ready cash ran a bit low.

I reckon I'd have no real problem disposing of half a mill. in a year or so,
given the chance...
--
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"I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine... War is hell"
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Academy, 19 June 1879.

Andy.Smalley

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Oct 4, 2003, 9:13:48 AM10/4/03
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"Austin Shackles" <aus...@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Personally I'd spend half of it on Wine,women and fast cars*
the rest I'd just waste

*I would have to include a couple of land rovers in this category


Andy


Lee_D

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Oct 4, 2003, 11:59:41 AM10/4/03
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"Austin Shackles" <aus...@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> presume that you've just won a million quid on the lottery or other
> jammy-git method of getting instantly rich.
>
> wot yer gonna do with it?

Add it to my other 5 Million.....


;-)

Seriously though

Fix all the seals.

With the remainder I'd buy a round down the pub, and may be if I'm lucky
enough left over to fill up Morph.

:-)

Lee D


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see it @ www.lrproject.com
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Agrippa

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Oct 4, 2003, 2:31:00 PM10/4/03
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I'd buy a wildcat :0) Just so I could make tinboxes look slow, now that's
what I call revenge!
or possibly an overfinch rangie, same idea.

--
`Agrippa

Tim Hobbs

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Oct 4, 2003, 5:39:31 PM10/4/03
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Dredd
Range Rover (Overfinch, natch)
911 Turbo (yes, I know)
XKR
Triumph Stag (original and very mint)

That's the first 250K sorted.

Having just spent a few days in a seriously nice 5 star holiday Lodge
within a PGA Championship golf course I reckon I could do that a lot
more. Knock off another 335K.

I'd need a decent every-day house, garden, paddock and space for lots
of kennels. Knock off another 400K.

That leaves me 15K for luxuries...

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2
'77 101FC Ambulance
'95 Discovery V8i

http://www.seriesii.co.uk
http://www.101ambulance.net

Tim Hobbs

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Oct 4, 2003, 5:39:30 PM10/4/03
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>
>Seriously though
>

A Genuine Parts radiator hose....?

Tim Hobbs

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Oct 4, 2003, 6:50:21 PM10/4/03
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:46:28 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>http://www.luckwill.com - are children safe at Land Rover events?
>=================================================================
>

>On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:39:31 +0100, Tim Hobbs
><t...@101ambulance-urine.net> wrote:
>
>>Having just spent a few days in a seriously nice 5 star holiday Lodge
>>within a PGA Championship golf course I reckon I could do that a lot
>>more.
>

>Ah... NO EXCUSE for not being at the 101 Club AGM...
>

I didn't present it as such!

>OK, it is a bloody good excuse as far as it goes, and I wish I were
>working on my own handicap rather than pushing paper around a desk at
>the HMC... BUT, that's NO EXCUSE...
>

Now there's the rub. Came to unload on arrival and; Pushchair -
check. Highchair - check. Ladies shoes (25 pairs) - check. Travel
playpen - check. Golf clubs - arse!

>Next year I'll propose a rise in membership to 500 quid a year just to
>get people there to oppose the motion...
>

Still cheaper to pay up and save on the fuel...

>Hope you had a good one :-)
>

Very very very... And none of that nasty golf nonsense. Lots of r
and r and ludicrous self indulgence (everyone should have a room with
en-suite sauna). The best bit is that we can do it the first week in
_every_ October...

Should tide me over until Australia in February...

>
>Martyn

Tom Woods

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Oct 4, 2003, 8:11:53 PM10/4/03
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>>Are ambis really worth more as 'original'?. is this compared to
>>'shabby, just left the MOD' condition?
>
>Yes, your differentiation is correct. A good example 'original' ambi
>- not a demobbed mess, will easily ask 5K. I'd estimate this to at
>least double in the next three years - but I'm not really an expert.

Stop it!.. Youre making me have second thoughts now.. I'd just about
convinced myself that I could pull mine apart in good conscience and
make a nice camper..

>Scary huh?

Very!

>I guess that given the OEM ambi cost circa 120 - 150 Grand (yes,
>Sterling) _each_ - I think it's still pretty cheap at 10K :-)

They really cost that much? Why did they cost so much?.. they didnt
really feature anything that hadnt already been done in some similar
way on another vehicle did they?
I mean it woulnt cost me that much to take a landrover product and
re-model it into something else.


Alex

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Oct 5, 2003, 3:26:38 AM10/5/03
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>
>>I guess that given the OEM ambi cost circa 120 - 150 Grand (yes,
>>Sterling) _each_ - I think it's still pretty cheap at 10K :-)
>
>They really cost that much? Why did they cost so much?.. they didnt
>really feature anything that hadnt already been done in some similar
>way on another vehicle did they?
>I mean it woulnt cost me that much to take a landrover product and
>re-model it into something else.
>

Probably something to do with the bodywork. Mashalls MOD bodywork
wasn't cheap, and ISTR that the 101 Ambi's went down the production
line at Lode land twice. The 101 was a unique vehicle in the first
place anyway, so the original GS was not a cheap vehicle.

Alex

Alex

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Oct 5, 2003, 3:28:13 AM10/5/03
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>You won't get much more than half of a nice house in a nice area...
>
>However...
>
>You could get around 50sq miles of farmland, forrest and castle in
>Scotland. Or a very nice country estate in Wales or a small city in
>South Yorkshire ;-)
>
>I'm still saving up for Dorset - just so I can sell it to the French.

Hmm. Wouldn't it be more amusing to save up and buy France, just so
you can sell it to the Americans?

Alex

Austin Shackles

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Oct 5, 2003, 4:21:06 AM10/5/03
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On or around Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:10:51 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}

@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>


>You won't get much more than half of a nice house in a nice area...

that's OK, I don't want a naice hice in a naice area...

>However...
>
>You could get around 50sq miles of farmland, forrest and castle in
>Scotland. Or a very nice country estate in Wales or a small city in
>South Yorkshire ;-)

I'd take the castle or the estate in Wales, meself, fer preference.

>I'm still saving up for Dorset - just so I can sell it to the French.

heh. I don't think my Aunt would approve...


--
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Confidence: Before important work meetings, boost your confidence by
reading a few pages from "The Tibetan Book of the Dead"
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

Lee_D

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Oct 5, 2003, 6:03:19 AM10/5/03
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"Alex" <nospa...@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Probably something to do with the bodywork. Mashalls MOD bodywork
> wasn't cheap, and ISTR that the 101 Ambi's went down the production
> line at Lode land twice. The 101 was a unique vehicle in the first
> place anyway, so the original GS was not a cheap vehicle.
>
> Alex

Yeah and if the rest of the bits cost owt like the rear door handle then I'm
surprised it came in so cheap.

Lee D


Alex

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Oct 5, 2003, 12:10:20 PM10/5/03
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:03:19 +0100, "Lee_D"
<replacewithleehere...@hathisterminalscoat.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:

Hmm. I expect the handles were considerably cheaper back in 1972.
Coachbuilding has become somewhat rarer in the last 30 years.

Alex

Alex

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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 13:37:49 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>http://www.luckwill.com - are children safe at Land Rover events?
>=================================================================
>

>On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:28:13 +0100, Alex <nospa...@cbmsys.co.uk>
>wrote:


>
>>>I'm still saving up for Dorset - just so I can sell it to the French.
>>
>>Hmm. Wouldn't it be more amusing to save up and buy France, just so
>>you can sell it to the Americans?
>

>But isn't France worth less than Dorset?
>

I wouldn't give you the snot off my nose for France.

Alex

Tim Hobbs

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Oct 5, 2003, 2:07:47 PM10/5/03
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>
>I wouldn't give you the snot off my nose for France.
>
>Alex

It's a fantastic place, ruined only by the French. An old cliche, but
in many cases true. However, I was in a small French village the
night they won the world cup (and watched it in a local bar) and the
people were fantastic.

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