Also, is it worth putting the coil in a waterproof box? If so does it need
an earth from the fixing lugs?
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Andy
<<'96 ex Jap D1 V8i>>
The biggest problem is condensation forming inside the dizzy when
cold water hits the outside. A vent pipe from the engine breather
via the dizzy body to a vacuum source helps a lot to prevent
this.
> Also, is it worth putting the coil in a waterproof box? If so
> does it need an earth from the fixing lugs?
>
It does.
Mike
Err, this one does!!
--
Andy
--
Regards
Bob Hobden
1986 90 Utility 2.5 petrol
> Err a V8i don't have no dizzy man.
What distributes the sparks to the spark plugs? AFAIK the V8i is a
petrol engine not a diesel. The fuel may be injected but it still
needs a spark to make it go BANG. B-)
--
Cheers
Dave.
> There used to be a product that you sprayed on all the leads and cap
> that was like a varnish and it kept the moisture out (provided there was
> no moisture in the first place).
Fine until the varnish layer cracks and starts to trap moisture
and/or muck making nice paths for tracking... Keeping the thing clean
and possibly coated with a water repellant(*) is more reliable in the
long term.
If condensation inside the cap is a problem then that strikes me a
design problem in letting wet in in the first place.
(*) Something like a thin smear of silicone based polish.
> Can't think of the name.
Probably just as well. B-)
--
Cheers
Dave.
Doesn't it have a pack of coils, one per plug, so no need of a
distributor.
--
--
Geoff
ExploitEd
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I do wish I could
remember the darn question
Holts (?) Easy start ,
It isn't the ether type of spray before any one comments
Don't know how it got the name
I have a tin in the shed
Probably no puff in it now its donkeys years old
Now to sort my Disco out lost power , started rattling and lost oil on the M62
near Huddersfield this after noon
No visible lights showing any problems
Green flag Turned up in less than an hour
Just had the 160K service done as well
DieSea
Silicone grease in all the connections works well, as does a thin smear
of it around where the cap mates to the distributor body.
But my sig in the original post says D1, it's a 3.9 V8 with injection hence
the V8i
:-)
--
Andy
Early fuel injected V8 rover engines (3.5 and 3.9, including "interim
serpentine" used to end of D1) all have a distributor to distribute the
sparks to the correct plugs at hopefully the correct time.
Later engines using Gems or Motronic (Thor) engine management systems have
no distributor. Instead, they have a bank of coil packs at the rear of the
engine, computer controlled.
Note:- An engine management system generally refers to total control of the
engine, both fuel and spark, whereas a fuel injection system is simply that,
it controls fuel but not spark. management systems were deemed necessary for
modern emissions and torque-management for traction control etc etc.
The original poster is correct in his designation of "V8i", as it is a
fuel-injected V8. Simples.
Badger.
I hope whoever did the service tightened the sump plug up correctly........
for their sake! If they didn't, then do I detect a new engine at their
expense?
Didn't loose all the oil
None of the warning lights came on
I might get a new engine CHEAPER
But I doubt if I'd get a new engine for nowt
When he fitted a new water pump , timing belt and Pulley in Jan 2008 I got change
out of �60.00
The water pump failed in June 2009 and the pump and the belt there was little
change out of �200.00
That was a different garage north of the border
I didn't use Nige's words but he was left knowing what I thought of them in no
uncertain terms
Just waiting for the truck to arrive to take it down to the workshop
DieSea
>
> " whereas a fuel injection system is simply that,
> it controls fuel but not spark."
And if you've got no spark, you ain't got any fuel :-)
> The original poster is correct in his designation of "V8i", as it is a
> fuel-injected V8. Simples
>
> Badger.
>
>
Absolutely correct.
The term never existed when carb V8s were still around and only appeared
with the 4.0 litre. To use it now to apply to all fuel injected V8s is
just dumbing it down.
--
Patrick
"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:iN8x5VBz...@raefell.demon.co.uk...
Fixed the winch? Any ideas what it is?
Lee D
I would imagine its got something to do with the over bonnet high water i was driving though before
it stopped.
Ill strip it tonight but expect lots of water / mud to be on the motor commutator.
Once thats cleaned up, I expect it will start going again.
Have to do a better silicone job on the joints this time!
I can't believe your saying they never existed?!
--
Neil
I agree with Neil and stand by what I said .
My Disco says V8i on the back so it's a V8i..................end of story.
--
Andy
> >> The original poster is correct in his designation of "V8i", as it is a
> >> fuel-injected V8. Simples
> >>
> >> Badger.
> >>
> >>
> > Absolutely correct.
> >
> >
> Wrong -see my other post.
>
> hugh
>
>
One word for you.........Bollocks
Interesting, our 90 injected 3.5 V8 says Tdi on the wings. I do seem to
recall the 2 1/4 petrol it used to have was a tad short on grunt, but it
didn't have eyewatering consumption!! Think we're going to have to
replace the Tdi wings soon on account of the remodelling we seem to do
each time out!
>>
> No it's not - at least not in the Land Rover world It's a fuel injected
> V8. Go along to a Land Rover dealer and ask for a part for a V8i and see
> which parts book he gets out.
>
> The term never existed when carb V8s were still around and only appeared
> with the 4.0 litre. To use it now to apply to all fuel injected V8s is
> just dumbing it down.
s'funny cos Land Rover put a nice big sticker on the back of my D1 that
clearly says "V8i" ~ as does the workshop manual, parts book and owners
handbook. In fact, in the workshop manual the 4.0 litre is consistently
referred to as "V8" - so how's that for dumbing down? Oh, and just to
burst your bubble a bit more, your 4ltr isn't 4ltrs. It's the same
3950cc as my 3.9V8i - it was called the 4.0 to differentiate it from the
3.9 when they introduced the GEMS ignition system.
Of course the term didn't exist when carb engines were in use - cos they
ain't injected. The first V8i was a 3.5 used in the Classic Range Rover.
Before you start spouting off about the history of Land Rover engines
and their official designations (i.e as applied by LR themselves) you
need to read a bit more.
--
Regards
Steve G
This thread takes me back a few AFL years!
Just to be clear... are we saying we are Pro or Anti fox hunting?
;o)
Lee D
Indeed.. Bollocks are a totally different kind of injection system. I've
often suspected Landrover fitted them to V8's but never actually found any
when pulling the engines apart. I was sure that my 101, RRC and Disco all
had bollocks but they definately didn't have a badge on them which goes to
show... everything is not always as it seems, just because you can't always
find them doesn't mean they aren't there.
Am I helping?
P.S. Thankfully I can always find mine!
:0)
Lee D
>
>
> Indeed.. Bollocks are a totally different kind of injection system. I've
> often suspected Landrover fitted them to V8's but never actually found any
> when pulling the engines apart. I was sure that my 101, RRC and Disco all
> had bollocks but they definately didn't have a badge on them which goes to
> show... everything is not always as it seems, just because you can't
always
> find them doesn't mean they aren't there.
>
> Am I helping?
>
> P.S. Thankfully I can always find mine!
>
> :0)
>
> Lee D
>
LOL. Now why do I always have to read something like with a brew in my
hand? The keyboard's not bollocksed but it's a bit sticky now as I take
sugar.
Fuckin retarded half-wit, listen to what you're being told you arse - since
when was a disco with a V8i badge fitted at the factory not a V8i? Get a
fucking grip on reality and admit you are wrong you useless cnut.
Badger.
>
> Just to be clear... are we saying we are Pro or Anti fox hunting?
Pro, but only for V8i foxen.
> Now why do I always have to read something like with a brew in my
> hand? The keyboard's not bollocksed but it's a bit sticky now as I take
> sugar.
The brew won't do much harm but that sugar will after time. Strip the
keyboard as much as you can and wash it in plenty of fresh flowing
water, dry of the bits then leave to dry properly somewhere warm
(above boiler, in airing cupboard) for 24 hrs, reassemble. Don't
worry about getting any circuit board wet, it'll survive a brief dunk
and good drying.
--
Cheers
Dave.
Pro, with flamethrowers.
--
Nige,
BMW K1200S
Range Rover Vogue
hewhhehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Sorry, I had an "attack of the Nige's" matey, lol. Some people just don't
deserve to share the same planet as normal folks!
Mingesealer?
Oh well, as everyones getting lairy....
LEARN TO FUCKING POST YOU COCKSWALLOWING DRIBBLE OF SHIT RUN OUT.
:)
Fuck, i feel better for that.
> Oh well, as everyones getting lairy....
>
> LEARN TO FUCKING POST YOU COCKSWALLOWING DRIBBLE OF SHIT RUN OUT.
>
>:)
>
> Fuck, i feel better for that.
Trim your posts you technically incompetent, lazy anal fistula :-P
--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
http://youtube.com/tarcus69
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarcus/sets/
<makes suitable trumpeting noises and gallops off into distance>
--
Regards
Steve G
I did it for effect you gaping anus.
> Oh very definitely PRO .... Tally Ho!
>
><makes suitable trumpeting noises and gallops off into distance>
Well, the land owners like that sort of thing so you can be sure it'll
come back if the Tories get in!
Sadly the land owners don't like off-roaders so you can be sure the
NERC act, a Tory bill, will get strengthened and not weakened :-(
> I did it for effect you gaping anus.
Yeah and you do it every post, for effect, you retarded baboon's
nipple clamps.
Is that fence chaffing old boy?
;0)
Lee D
> Is that fence chaffing old boy?
>
> ;0)
>
> Lee D
Eh?
Unfortunately we've got the situation where one government, which has
been passively hostile to off-roaders, is about to be replaced by one
that's actively hostile to off-roaders, and has the "cost savings"
excuse for just about everything, so expect even less of an ear for
us when it comes to byway closures in the future.
> Yeah and you do it every post, for effect, you retarded baboon's
> nipple clamps.
LOL, a non-anus riposte ... you're slacking ... ;)
--
Paul - xxx
'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp
> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>
>> Yeah and you do it every post, for effect, you retarded baboon's
>> nipple clamps.
>
> LOL, a non-anus riposte ... you're slacking ... ;)
I was getting a bit concerned about Nige's anal fixation so thought
I'd see if I could lead him astray, admittedly into bestiality, but
we'll see if we can widen his outlook ;-)
As opposed to his sphincter.
>In message <RtSdnfN-TsuZXHPX...@bt.com>, Oily
><martin...@nospambtconnect.com> writes
>>
>>"Badger" wrote.........
>>
>>
>>>
>>> " whereas a fuel injection system is simply that,
>>> it controls fuel but not spark."
>>
>>And if you've got no spark, you ain't got any fuel :-)
>>
>>
>>> The original poster is correct in his designation of "V8i", as it is a
>>> fuel-injected V8. Simples
>>>
>>> Badger.
>>>
>>>
>> Absolutely correct.
>>
>>
>Wrong -see my other post.
Hugh, sorry, this time you're talking crap. All the early V8 injection
discos were badged "V8i" to distinguish them from the coil ones. I too had
one.
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Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\
>> http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ << \ ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!
Fuck off Nige you made me choke laughing- the crap I think he means is
Dampstart made by my old mates at Holts I used to sell shitloads of it and
that IMO is what it is a load of shit tried it on mini's and it was worse
than useless it actually used to cause tracking by retaining water.
Derek W
> On or around Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:32:38 +0000, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>In message <RtSdnfN-TsuZXHPX...@bt.com>, Oily
>><martin...@nospambtconnect.com> writes
>>>
>>>"Badger" wrote.........
>>>>
>>>> " whereas a fuel injection system is simply that,
>>>> it controls fuel but not spark."
>>>
>>>And if you've got no spark, you ain't got any fuel :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> The original poster is correct in his designation of "V8i", as it
>>>> is a fuel-injected V8. Simples
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Absolutely correct.
>>>
>>>
>>Wrong -see my other post.
>
> Hugh, sorry, this time you're talking crap. All the early V8
> injection discos were badged "V8i" to distinguish them from the coil
> ones. I too had one.
I still have one
o/p - check this ....
http://www.rhel.co.uk/tomcattech/dizzy.htm
--
William Tasso
>
>Hugh, sorry, this time you're talking crap. All the early V8 injection
>discos were badged "V8i" to distinguish them from the coil ones. I too had
>one.
I meant, of course, "carb".
Damp Start is the sealer and it is pants -bigger than Jade Goodys leftovers
don't get them mixed up for petes sake if you value facial hair
Derek W
I used "That Tin " to help seal some antennas
If my recollections are correct I must have used it 20 or so years ago for sealing
some Specialist Low Earth Orbiting Satellite Tracking antennas
As they're still up and working I must've done a proper job
Now to get back to "The other shed" , the rocker shaft had gone the top half is
halfway through a rebuild
Back on the road for next weekend I hope , I've got a hillside in the North
Pennines to play on
DieSea
> Back on the road for next weekend I hope , I've got a hillside in the
> North Pennines to play on
Which bit of the North Pennines? Most people havn't a clue where they
are...
--
Cheers
Dave.
have a look at http://aprs.fi/
Use Hawes as the area and you should see me around and about over next weekend (
14th ) and the weekend after
DieSea
Cracking bit of kit. I have used UI-View, laptop and handheld and a TINY 2
TNC on holiday this year to show our location on our tour around Europe. My
Dad called us to say welcome home as we pulled on to our Estate! He also
advised us of a Uk Call following us from Italy in to Switzerland who ended
up camping down the road from us at Interlaken. Nice bit of fun!
Lee D
OK so its OT
But have a look at http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/
Chris has some new kit out with built in GPS
Its a cracking piece of gear which I've been playing for the last month or so
I started off with the early version and got the updated one at Barnsley
Well worth it , you couldn't buy the gps for 20 quid
DieSea
>>> Back on the road for next weekend I hope , I've got a hillside in
the
>>> North Pennines to play on
>>
>> Which bit of the North Pennines? Most people havn't a clue where
they
>> are...
>
> have a look at http://aprs.fi/
>
> Use Hawes as the area ...
Once I managed the US centric map put Hawes in the UK... Hawes is in
the Yorkshire Dales though not the North Pennines. The North Pennines
are (mostly) north of the A66:
http://www.northpennines.org.uk/index.cfm?articleid=9099
The two areas do share a border in the south though.
I'll try and remember to look at the map on the weekend.
--
Cheers
Dave.
ooops
I regularly play north of Hawes
And even north of Moulting Teds Pub
But you wont find me with a traker switched on up there
It might give people wrong ideas
If I do its on a frequency that wont find itself on the internet
Chris's bit of kit can be used for receiving only but is really used for Radio
amateurs with a callsign
DieSea
whats all this about?
> DieSea wrote:
>> I regularly play north of Hawes
>>
>> And even north of Moulting Teds Pub
>>
>> But you wont find me with a traker switched on up there
>>
>> It might give people wrong ideas
>>
>> If I do its on a frequency that wont find itself on the internet
>>
>> Chris's bit of kit can be used for receiving only but is really used for
>> Radio
>> amateurs with a callsign
>
> whats all this about?
Radio ham geeking.
Fuck me, i aint too shabby on most stuff, but that had me utterly lost...and
bored, just like 'geocaching'
FUCK THAT
> Fuck me, i aint too shabby on most stuff, but that had me utterly
> lost...and bored, just like 'geocaching'
ARPS doesn't appeal to me much either but geocaching is a good hook
to hang getting the kids away from the PC or TV and out into the
fresh air with a bit of excercise. The offer of just "going for a
walk" is nearly always turned down but say "lets find a cache" and up
they jump...
--
Cheers
Dave.
Any form of cache will do me a the moment......
Cheers
Puffernutter
--
1985 110 CSW (Clumber Spaniel Wagon)
1989 Defender 90
1990 Defender 110 County (Reggie the Veggie)
1971 Triumph Stag (original engine) hopefully on the road next summer
(but I said that this year!)
1964 Rover P4 110 (no chance of getting on the road even in the medium
term!)
Train set at www.lmandwr.co.uk
Dogs at www.whissgig.co.uk
Must admit after a top half rebuild I could do with some cache as well
I've been told I need a new self adjusting pulley for the fan belt etc.
They tell me it comes as a complete unit at 60 odd quid
Its only the bearing that seems suspect
Suggestions would be appreciated
( Polite of course Nige ;-)) !! )
MTIA
DieSea
Well it sounds alot. Is that for one with a green oval on or a dare I say it
Britpart?
Landrover in the past quote me �45 for a bearing that I picked up at Bearing
Specialists (across the road) for �5.50 IIRC. Mind I probably sweat �30 of
sweat chiseling the old bearing out!
Lee D
I just have a need to know how stuff works and have a fiddle. Once I've
satisfied the curiosity I generally move on to something else.
I do like the idea of knowing where my car / caravan is mind , I'm sure as I
get older it will be very useful knowing where I left them! ;0)
Nige - you know your just a frustrated Ham! lol! Theres a big ham trapped
inside you just waiting to get out..... (I'm quite looking forward to the
reply!--- don't know if I should go to bed or wait up... :o) )
Lee D
> Nige - you know your just a frustrated Ham! lol! Theres a big ham trapped
> inside you just waiting to get out..... (I'm quite looking forward to the
> reply!--- don't know if I should go to bed or wait up... :o) )
I don't think it's a ham inside him, more of a pork sword..
I could do with something that tells (others) where I left me, let alone
my kit.
--
Geoff
ExploitEd
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I do wish I could
remember the darn question
Summat small enough to find my watch / wallet (tho that's always empty ) Keys
would be helpful
Perhaps a new pair of glasses from woollies might help and a new memory
DieSea