who's got time for shenanigans?

[TJ]

we are all on the same team, like it or not

team earth


adios amigos

[patrick]

that is true, but lets not forget some can fall victim to the cults
, then we need to rescue them.

[bentot]

nesupa?

sayonara tomodachi

ekiyuu, bentot

[tubby]

On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, bentot <bentot1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:55:32 -0700 (PDT), TJ
>

> <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >we are all on the same team, like it or not
>
> >team earth
>
> >adios amigos
>
> nesupa?
>
> sayonara tomodachi
>
> ekiyuu, bentot

Hey TJ,

Don't leave just yet.
Serena says she is going to stop the torment.

Hope you are well

Cheers Bruno

[Serena Nordstrup]

No quote. No reference. No validity. Just stuff made up.

[tubby]

Yeh I always make up stuff just for you oh wise Muse.

[Serena Nordstrup]

Always?

So when I read details of your trip to China, it instantly becomes
untruthy ?

[tubby]

Not when I am talking to Ben who writes clearly to be understood.
However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.

I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.

Cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

And I listen in and hang on every ~word~. When you talk to Ben in
alt.fan.landmark, you talk to me too.
Rosenbergism has the concept of ~standing~ by one's ~word~...

> However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.

For example?

NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
tongues".)

> I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.

How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
the breach?

> Cheers

[tubby]

That may be so fair Muse but unfortunately you don't listen. You come
here with
an Agenda. Own up to it.
Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????

>
> > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> For example?
>
> NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> tongues".)

You can discount all you want.
Just look at your posts.

>
> > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> the breach?

Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.

Werner really did hurt you.
Was marriage ever a proposal????

Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

Not only do I read your posts, I also bring along some ~always
already~ which I've found quite useful in debunking and mocking.

> You come
> here with
> an Agenda.

I do? What color?

> Own up to it.
> Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????

The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
again."

> > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > For example?
>
> > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > tongues".)
>
> You can discount all you want.
> Just look at your posts.

Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.

> > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > the breach?
>
> Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.

And people pay money for such profound teachings...

> Werner  really did hurt you.

Never met the bloke.

> Was marriage  ever a proposal????

An estimated 6.504 marriages took place per day in Malta in 2005.

[tubby]

That' s why you have the title " Muse Nordstrep " as you live in
a debunking mocking heaven. Must be wonderful to be in your skin.

>
> > You come
> > here with
> > an Agenda.
>
> I do? What color?

How about black for starters.

>
> > Own up to it.
> > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> again."

For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
doubt it.

>
> > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > For example?
>
> > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > tongues".)
>
> > You can discount all you want.
> > Just look at your posts.
>
> Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.

Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
Muse friend
Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.

Now that is a revelation!!!!!

>
> > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > the breach?
>
> > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> And people pay money for such profound teachings...

People pay money for anything that works.

>
> > Werner  really did hurt you.
>
> Never met the bloke.

UH Okay.
So there was no marriage proposal .
Is that what you are saying???


cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

I had no idea. The irrelevant things one learns on alt.fan.landmark
from reliable correspondents!

> > > You come
> > > here with
> > > an Agenda.
>
> > I do? What color?
>
> How about black for starters.

No use asking me. You postulated an alleged "agenda" for me -- you
tell me the details. Or have they become hazy ?

> > > Own up to it.
> > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > again."
>
> For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> doubt it.

So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?

> > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > For example?
>
> > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > tongues".)
>
> > > You can discount all you want.
> > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> Muse friend
> Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
>  Now that is a revelation!!!!!

Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
that man!

> > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > the breach?
>
> > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> People pay money for anything that works.

Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?

> > > Werner  really did hurt you.
>
> > Never met the bloke.
>
> UH  Okay.
> So there was no marriage proposal .

Someone makes stuff up -- someone makes more stuff up.

> Is that what you are saying???

All those marriages in Malta in 2005 -- some of them may have had
associated proposals.

[tubby]

My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
you
talking about Landmark.

TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
doubt
that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop, and if you did
you possibly
"ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
benefits of attending.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.

You can reject whatever.
I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
else.

>
> > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > Muse friend
> > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> that man!

Well if you Serena and Pau don't want to read the posts that" s your
problems.

>
> > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?

Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to Tony Bower
http://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html

He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
Medical
Hemp to patients in need.

Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
faces.

Thank you for your contribution Serena Strupnorth.

Cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

Have the details of my alleged agenda become hazy, Bruno? -- Quick,
tell us more before the vision fades!

> > > > > Own up to it.
> > > > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > > > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > > > again."
>
> > > For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> > > doubt it.
>
> > So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
> > linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
> > between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
> you
> talking about Landmark.

One might expect to find the occasional mention of so-called
~landmark~ so-called ~education~ in alt.fan.landmark.

Back from irrelevant speculation about myself to matters based on your
actual quotable ~words~: what linkage do you detect between heart and
need? Do you regard thatlinkage as as tight as the linkage between

Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?

> TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> doubt
> that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> you possibly
> "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> benefits of attending.

Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
rosenbergist cult-fests.

> > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> You can reject whatever.
> I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> else.

Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
delusion?

> > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > Muse friend
> > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > that man!
>
> Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> problems.

Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?

> > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> > Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?
>

> Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to  Tony Bowerhttp://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html

>
> He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
> Medical
> Hemp to patients in need.

I fail to see the connection between my overnight sleep the other
night and paying for justice in New South Wales. Please explain.

> Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
> faces.

Gift? -- I thought the discussion focussed on payment?

[tubby]

Its faded already.
Gone into the Ether.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > Own up to it.
> > > > > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > > > > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > > > > again."
>
> > > > For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> > > > doubt it.
>
> > > So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
> > > linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
> > > between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
> > you
> > talking about Landmark.
>
> One might expect to find the occasional mention of so-called
> ~landmark~ so-called ~education~ in alt.fan.landmark.

Is that so. Wow what a bright spark you are.
Can't buy me a tractor can you??

>
> Back from irrelevant speculation about myself to matters based on your
> actual quotable ~words~: what linkage do you detect between heart and
> need? Do you regard thatlinkage as as tight as the linkage  between
> Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?

It may and it may not????????

>
> > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > doubt
> > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > you possibly
> > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > benefits of attending.
>
> Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> rosenbergist cult-fests.

Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
Too demanding.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > You can reject whatever.
> > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > else.
>
> Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> delusion?

Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.

>
> > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > Muse friend
> > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > that man!
>
> > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > problems.
>
> Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?

What about Pau????

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > > > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> > > Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?
>
> > Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to  Tony Bowerhttp://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html
>
> > He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
> > Medical
> > Hemp to patients in need.
>
> I fail to see the connection between my overnight sleep the other
> night and paying for justice in New South Wales. Please explain.
>
> > Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
> > faces.
>
> Gift?  -- I thought the discussion focussed on payment?

Gift, Money , payment who cares.
Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.

[Serena Nordstrup]

Can you swear that I even had an agenda?

> > > > > > > Own up to it.
> > > > > > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > > > > > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > > > > > again."
>
> > > > > For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> > > > > doubt it.
>
> > > > So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
> > > > linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
> > > > between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > > My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
> > > you
> > > talking about Landmark.
>
> > One might expect to find the occasional mention of so-called
> > ~landmark~ so-called ~education~ in alt.fan.landmark.
>
> Is that so. Wow what a bright spark you are.
> Can't buy me a tractor can you??

My savings might run to a toy tractor (and rosenbergists indulge in
~games~...)

> > Back from irrelevant speculation about myself to matters based on your
> > actual quotable ~words~: what linkage do you detect between heart and
> > need? Do you regard thatlinkage as as tight as the linkage  between
> > Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> It may and it may not????????

Indeed, but you haven't answered the questions: what linkage do you
detect between heart and need? Do you regard that linkage as as tight

as the linkage between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?

> > > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > > doubt
> > > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > > you possibly
> > > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > > benefits of attending.
>
> > Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> > let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> > rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
> Too demanding.

We can according assume for the purposes of future discussion that no

practical benefits ensue from attending rosenbergist cult-fests.

> > > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > > You can reject whatever.
> > > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > > else.
>
> > Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> > it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> > delusion?
>
> Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.

Common sense tells you that nobody gives a rat's ass about my
application of the rules of engagement ? Based on what?

> > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > that man!
>
> > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > problems.
>
> > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> What about Pau????

Indeed, what about Pau?

Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
read posts, Bruno?

> > > > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > > > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > > > > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> > > > Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?
>
> > > Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to  Tony Bowerhttp://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html
>
> > > He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
> > > Medical
> > > Hemp to patients in need.
>
> > I fail to see the connection between my overnight sleep the other
> > night and paying for justice in New South Wales. Please explain.

I await your explanation of the connection (if any) between my

overnight sleep the other
> > night and paying for justice in New South Wales.

> > > Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
> > > faces.
>
> > Gift?  -- I thought the discussion focussed on payment?
>
> Gift, Money , payment  who cares.

"Writing maketh an exact man"...

> Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.

No doubt.

[tubby]

Why the bullshit Serena. Of course you have an agenda,
Why not try being honest and just telling us what it is?

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > Own up to it.
> > > > > > > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > > > > > > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > > > > > > again."
>
> > > > > > For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> > > > > > doubt it.
>
> > > > > So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
> > > > > linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
> > > > > between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > > > My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
> > > > you
> > > > talking about Landmark.
>
> > > One might expect to find the occasional mention of so-called
> > > ~landmark~ so-called ~education~ in alt.fan.landmark.
>
> > Is that so. Wow what a bright spark you are.
> > Can't buy me a tractor can you??
>
> My savings might run to a toy tractor (and rosenbergists indulge in
> ~games~...)

Thanks for the offer but I need a real tractor with a front end
loader.
That's the toy I want.

>
> > > Back from irrelevant speculation about myself to matters based on your
> > > actual quotable ~words~: what linkage do you detect between heart and
> > > need? Do you regard thatlinkage as as tight as the linkage  between
> > > Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > It may and it may not????????
>
> Indeed, but you haven't answered the questions: what linkage do you
> detect between heart and need? Do you regard that linkage as as tight
> as the linkage  between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?

Of course, hadn't you realized that.
It"s water tight.
Just like the Iraki war and the weapons of mass destruction.

>
> > > > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > > > doubt
> > > > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > > > you possibly
> > > > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > > > benefits of attending.
>
> > > Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> > > let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> > > rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
> > Too demanding.
>
> We can according assume for the purposes of future discussion that no
> practical benefits ensue from attending rosenbergist cult-fests.

Correct.

However there were many practical benefits when one participated
both in the Est and Landmark workshops.
The key word here is participated.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > > > You can reject whatever.
> > > > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > > > else.
>
> > > Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> > > it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> > > delusion?
>
> > Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.
>
> Common sense tells you that nobody gives a rat's ass about my
> application of the rules of engagement ? Based on what?

Feedback.

No one here reads or cares about our conversation.
Maybe Pau reads it but does not get involved.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > that man!
>
> > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > problems.
>
> > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > What about Pau????
>
> Indeed, what about Pau?
>
> Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> read posts, Bruno?

Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > > > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > > > > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > > > > > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> > > > > Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?
>
> > > > Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to  Tony Bowerhttp://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html
>
> > > > He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
> > > > Medical
> > > > Hemp to patients in need.
>
> > > I fail to see the connection between my overnight sleep the other
> > > night and paying for justice in New South Wales. Please explain.
>
> I await your explanation of the connection (if any) between my
> overnight sleep the other
>
> > > night and paying for justice in New South Wales.
> > > > Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
> > > > faces.
>
> > > Gift?  -- I thought the discussion focussed on payment?
>
> > Gift, Money , payment  who cares.
>
> "Writing maketh an exact man"...

Okay well I'm not an exact person.
My wife is as she is of Teutonic breeding.
She is the disciplined one.
Not me.

>
> > Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.
>
> No doubt.

Good . Did you send him the monies as suggested.


Cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

On 13 May, 22:14, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 11:18 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > On 12 May, 18:55, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 9, 7:28 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 9 May, 00:23, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 8, 8:30 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On May 7, 11:56 pm, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 7, 5:47 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On 7 May, 01:53, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 5, 8:38 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On 5 May, 02:17, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 9:35 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 4 May, 21:06, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 3, 7:46 pm, Serena Nordstrup <s_nordst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 3, 2:21 am, tubby <btono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 22, 2:43 pm, bentot <bentot1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:55:32 -0700 (PDT), TJ
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <thetroublewitht...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> > > > > > > > > You come
> > > > > > > > > here with
> > > > > > > > > an Agenda.
>
> > > > > > > > I do? What color?
>
> > > > > > > How about black for starters.
>
> > > > > > No use asking me. You postulated an alleged "agenda" for me -- you
> > > > > > tell me the details. Or have they become hazy ?
>
> > > > Have the details of my alleged agenda become hazy, Bruno? -- Quick,
> > > > tell us more before the vision fades!
>
> > > Its faded already.
> > > Gone into the Ether.
>
> > Can you swear that I even had an agenda?
>
> Why the bullshit Serena. Of course you have an agenda,
> Why not try being honest and just telling us what it is?

You claim I have an agenda, but you cannot specify the color of my
alleged agenda...

I doubt the veracity of some of your claims...

OK, but you haven't answered the question: what linkage do you detect
between heart and need?

> > > > > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > > > > doubt
> > > > > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > > > > you possibly
> > > > > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > > > > benefits of attending.
>
> > > > Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> > > > let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> > > > rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > > Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
> > > Too demanding.
>
> > We can according assume for the purposes of future discussion that no
> > practical benefits ensue from attending rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> Correct.
>
> However there were  many practical benefits when  one participated
> both in the Est and Landmark workshops.
> The key word here is participated.

I can see the benefits gained by the rosenbergist cause: willing dupes
as proselytes. I fail to see equivalently "many practical benefits"
gained by participants in rosenbergist cult-fests

> > > > > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > > > > You can reject whatever.
> > > > > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > > > > else.
>
> > > > Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> > > > it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> > > > delusion?
>
> > > Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.
>
> > Common sense tells you that nobody gives a rat's ass about my
> > application of the rules of engagement ? Based on what?
>
> Feedback.

You have feedback from all the bandits in Mauretania?

> No one here reads or cares about  our conversation.

We debate for posterity alone...

> Maybe Pau   reads it but does not get involved.

Where you grant a "maybe", you cannot claim a "no one". That would
involve an obvious self-contradiction...

> > > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > > that man!
>
> > > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > > problems.
>
> > > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > What about Pau????
>
> > Indeed, what about Pau?

Yeah, Bruno: what about Pau?

> > Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> > read posts, Bruno?
>
> Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.

Nice. But to return to my question: Where do you see any problem in

not wanting to read posts, Bruno?

> > > > > > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > > > > > with my wife. With your skills you may have brokered the peace.
>
> > > > > > > > > > How many hours did rosenbergist self-deceptive trickery take to heal
> > > > > > > > > > the breach?
>
> > > > > > > > > Overnight sleep. Things always look better in the morning.
>
> > > > > > > > And people pay money for such profound teachings...
>
> > > > > > > People pay money for anything that works.
>
> > > > > > Whom should I pay for my overnight sleep last night, Bruno?
>
> > > > > Thank you for asking. Please send $50.00 to  Tony Bowerhttp://www.mullawaysmedicalcannabis.com.au/media2.html
>
> > > > > He is in trouble with the law here in the State of NSW supplying
> > > > > Medical
> > > > > Hemp to patients in need.
>
> > > > I fail to see the connection between my overnight sleep the other
> > > > night and paying for justice in New South Wales. Please explain.
>
> > I await your explanation of the connection (if any) between my
> > overnight sleep the other
> > > > night and paying for justice in New South Wales.

I continue to await your explanation of the connection (if any)

between my overnight sleep the other night and paying for justice in
New South Wales.

> > > > > Your gift of $50 will go towards his costs and legal bills he now
> > > > > faces.
>
> > > > Gift?  -- I thought the discussion focussed on payment?
>
> > > Gift, Money , payment  who cares.
>
> > "Writing maketh an exact man"...
>
> Okay well I'm not an exact person.
> My wife is as she is of Teutonic breeding.
> She is the disciplined one.
> Not me.

> ...

I prescribe more writing. I'll critique.

> > > Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.

> > No doubt.

> Good . Did you send him the monies as suggested.

I continue to await your explanation, Bruno, of the connection (if

[tubby]

Why do you speak with a forked tongue .
Honesty is the best policy Serena didn't your mother tell you that.

A strong one. Ever heard of the Maltese Cross????

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > > > > > doubt
> > > > > > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > > > > > you possibly
> > > > > > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > > > > > benefits of attending.
>
> > > > > Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> > > > > let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> > > > > rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > > > Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
> > > > Too demanding.
>
> > > We can according assume for the purposes of future discussion that no
> > > practical benefits ensue from attending rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > Correct.
>
> > However there were  many practical benefits when  one participated
> > both in the Est and Landmark workshops.
> > The key word here is participated.
>
> I can see the benefits gained by the rosenbergist cause: willing dupes
> as proselytes. I fail to see equivalently "many practical benefits"
> gained by participants in rosenbergist cult-fests

Of course you fail to see the " Many practical benefits" . Your
attention
was on the Forum Leader ogggling his very stance and words. YOU DID
NOT PARTICIPATE AND THEREFORE MISSED OUT.

No contradiction at all. The PAU I am referring to is your other half.
The No one refers to the rest of the group.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > > > that man!
>
> > > > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > What about Pau????
>
> > > Indeed, what about Pau?
>
> Yeah, Bruno: what about Pau?
>
> > > Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> > > read posts, Bruno?
>
> > Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.
>
> Nice. But to return to my question:  Where do you see any problem in
> not wanting to read posts, Bruno?

Forget it my wonderful Muse. Its over.

Nuh Whats the use Serena. We don't have the spirit of inquiry any
more. Its just tit for tat.
I appreciate your skillful word games but they go nowhere.
Lets call it quits.

>
> > > > Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.
> > > No doubt.
> > Good . Did you send him the monies as suggested.
>
> I continue to await your explanation, Bruno,  of the connection (if
> any) between my overnight sleep the other night and paying for justice
> in New South Wales.

One last go.

You did say who you needed to pay someone for your overnight sleep??

Sleep tight fair Muse.

Forgiveness may help you to overcome the nightmares of the past.

cheers

[Serena Nordstrup]

Unaware that I speak with a forked tongue, I cannot comment on this
irrelevancy to the discussion on rosenbergism.

> Honesty is the best policy Serena didn't your mother tell you that.

She may have - I don't recall her expressing herself in such
simplistick platitudes. Does "policy" imply some sort of agenda --
the thing that you have not succeeded in proving that I possess ?

Insufficient information. I'll re-phrase: what linkage can you
demonstrate between heart and need ?

> Ever heard of the Maltese Cross????

Yes. Can you demonstrate the relevance of Maltese crosses in
discussing some sort of putative linkage between heart and need ?

> > > > > > > TJ claimed you were spot on and had once been a Werner devotee but I
> > > > > > > doubt
> > > > > > > that. I don't believe you ever attended any workshop,  and if you did
> > > > > > > you possibly
> > > > > > > "ogglled" the Forum Leader all day long and missed the practical
> > > > > > > benefits of attending.
>
> > > > > > Ignoring the baseless "claims" and made-up hypothetical "beliefs",
> > > > > > let's examine whether any practical benefits ensue from attending
> > > > > > rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > > > > Nuh its much to demanding for you Muse to get a grip of it.
> > > > > Too demanding.
>
> > > > We can according assume for the purposes of future discussion that no
> > > > practical benefits ensue from attending rosenbergist cult-fests.
>
> > > Correct.
>
> > > However there were  many practical benefits when  one participated
> > > both in the Est and Landmark workshops.
> > > The key word here is participated.
>
> > I can see the benefits gained by the rosenbergist cause: willing dupes
> > as proselytes. I fail to see equivalently "many practical benefits"
> > gained by participants in rosenbergist cult-fests
>
> Of course you fail to see the " Many practical benefits" . Your
> attention
> was on the Forum Leader ogggling his very stance and words. YOU DID
> NOT PARTICIPATE AND THEREFORE MISSED OUT.

If your imagined scenario had any basis, it would leave me in a
stronger position to evaluate the alleged "many practical benefits". I
haven't seen any yet.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > > > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > > > > > > You can reject whatever.
> > > > > > > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > > > > > > else.
>
> > > > > > Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> > > > > > it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> > > > > > delusion?
>
> > > > > Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.
>
> > > > Common sense tells you that nobody gives a rat's ass about my
> > > > application of the rules of engagement ? Based on what?
>
> > > Feedback.
>
> > You have feedback from all the bandits in Mauretania?

You have feedback from all the bandits in Mauretania, Bruno?

> > > No one here reads or cares about  our conversation.
>
> > We debate for posterity alone...
>
> > > Maybe Pau   reads it but does not get involved.
>
> > Where you grant a "maybe", you cannot claim a "no one". That would
> > involve an obvious self-contradiction...
>
> No contradiction at all. The PAU I am referring to is your other half.
> The  No one refers to the rest of the group.

Such convenient post-hoc re-framing...

> > > > > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > > > > that man!
>
> > > > > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > > > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > > What about Pau????
>
> > > > Indeed, what about Pau?
>
> > Yeah, Bruno: what about Pau?
>
> > > > Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> > > > read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.
>
> > Nice. But to return to my question:  Where do you see any problem in
> > not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> Forget it my wonderful Muse. Its over.

Do you withdraw your previous contention that some problem exists with
unwillingness to read posts?

Self-improvement. The ~possibility~ of ~transformation~...

> We don't have the spirit of inquiry any
> more. Its just tit for tat.

Or the gradual wearing down and wearing out of your inconsistencies.

> I appreciate your skillful word games but they go nowhere.

You noticed the lack of an agenda?

> Lets call it quits.

You appear reluctant to defend your corners this year, Bruno...

> > > > > Tony Bowers appreciates your support in this matter.
> > > > No doubt.
> > > Good . Did you send him the monies as suggested.
>
> > I continue to await your explanation, Bruno,  of the connection (if
> > any) between my overnight sleep the other night and paying for justice
> > in New South Wales.
>
> One last go.
>
> You did say who you needed to pay someone  for your overnight sleep??

No. I asked whom I should pay (given your shaky claim that people pay
money for anything that ~works~) when a dose of sleep successfully
refreshed me (without any participation from Mr Tony Bower ...).

> Sleep tight fair Muse.
>
> Forgiveness may help you to overcome the nightmares of the past.

Someone has forgiven me? When did that happen?

[tubby]

Correct once again Serena.
Your comments on most discussions in this group seem irrelevant.

>
> > Honesty is the best policy Serena didn't your mother tell you that.
>
> She may have - I don't recall her expressing herself in such
> simplistick platitudes.  Does "policy" imply some sort of agenda --
> the thing that you have not succeeded in proving that I possess ?

No

Honesty is just honesty.

Is that so???
Not if your infatuation for the Forum Leader was as strong as I
suspect it was.

Such convenient statements.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > > > > > that man!
>
> > > > > > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > > > > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > > > What about Pau????
>
> > > > > Indeed, what about Pau?
>
> > > Yeah, Bruno: what about Pau?
>
> > > > > Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> > > > > read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.
>
> > > Nice. But to return to my question:  Where do you see any problem in
> > > not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > Forget it my wonderful Muse. Its over.
>
> Do you withdraw your previous contention that some problem exists with
> unwillingness to read posts?

No.

Its over.

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I missed you in China. Pity you weren't in KL when I had an argument
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with my wife. With
>

> ...
>
> read more »

[Serena Nordstrup]

Nor have you undertaken to swear that I ever had an agenda. It I were
to have had an an agenda, and if I do have some alleged agenda, might
my alleged agenda have ~transformed~ itself under the beneficial
stimulus of your inspirational posts?

> > > > I doubt the veracity of some of your claims...
>
> > > Why do you speak with a forked tongue .
>
> > Unaware that I speak with a forked tongue, I cannot comment on this
> > irrelevancy to the discussion on rosenbergism.
>
> Correct once again Serena.
> Your comments on most  discussions in this group seem irrelevant.

I'd better stick to questions, then... Now Bruno, I have a question
for you: where do/did you see some sort of connection between "the
Subjective" and ~experience~ ?

> > > Honesty is the best policy Serena didn't your mother tell you that.
>
> > She may have - I don't recall her expressing herself in such
> > simplistick platitudes.  Does "policy" imply some sort of agenda --
> > the thing that you have not succeeded in proving that I possess ?
>
> No
>
> Honesty is just honesty.

But one can have a policy without having an agenda?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Own up to it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does not honesty prevail in the heavens?????
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > The poet once said: "I already confessed, don't need to confess
> > > > > > > > > > > > again."
>
> > > > > > > > > > > For the poet that had heart that may be so. However in your case I
> > > > > > > > > > > doubt it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > So, Bruno, leaving aside your crude attempt to talk about myself, what
> > > > > > > > > > linkage do you detect between heart and need? As tight as the linkage
> > > > > > > > > > between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > > > > > > > > My crude attempt as you put it talking about you is just as crude as
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > talking about Landmark.
>
> > > > > > > > One might expect to find the occasional mention of so-called
> > > > > > > > ~landmark~ so-called ~education~ in alt.fan.landmark.
>
> > > > > > > Is that so.

Yup.

> > > > > > > Wow what a bright spark you are.

Your ~opinion~ on this matter appears to lack any connection with
discussing rosenbergism...

> > > > > > > Can't buy me a tractor can you??
>
> > > > > > My savings might run to a toy tractor (and rosenbergists indulge in
> > > > > > ~games~...)
>
> > > > > Thanks for the offer but I need a real tractor with a front end
> > > > > loader.
> > > > > That's the toy I want.
>
> > > > > > > > Back from irrelevant speculation about myself to matters based on your
> > > > > > > > actual quotable ~words~: what linkage do you detect between heart and
> > > > > > > > need? Do you regard thatlinkage as as tight as the linkage  between
> > > > > > > > Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > > > > > > It may and it may not????????
>
> > > > > > Indeed, but you haven't answered the questions: what linkage do you
> > > > > > detect between heart and need? Do you regard that linkage as as tight
> > > > > > as the linkage  between Nietzsche's "the Subjective" and ~experience~?
>
> > > > > Of course, hadn't you realized that.
> > > > > It"s water tight.
> > > > > Just like the Iraki war and the weapons of mass destruction.
>
> > > > OK, but you haven't answered the question: what linkage do you detect
> > > > between heart and need?
>
> > > A strong one.
>
> > Insufficient information. I'll re-phrase: what linkage can you
> > demonstrate between heart and need ?

Again: what linkage can you demonstrate between heart and need ?

> > > Ever heard of the Maltese Cross????
>
> > Yes. Can you demonstrate the relevance of Maltese crosses in
> > discussing some sort of putative linkage between heart and need ?

Can you demonstrate the relevance of Maltese crosses in discussing
some sort of putative linkage between heart and need ?

Do Maltese falcons have more relevance to the discussion on some sort

Yup. Such benefits accrue to the independent external evaluator.

> Not if your infatuation for the Forum Leader was as strong as I
> suspect it was.

You provide no grounds for your suspicion. Indeed, you have previously
doubted whether I ever even sat at the metaphorical feet of any so-
called ~forum~ so-called ~leader~... So on what basis do you suspect
the existence of an alleged infatuation for for some apparently bob-
existent personage?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked tongues.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > NB: if you fail to give a clear and convincing example. I might
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > discount the suggestion that "Nordstrup and Pau speak with forked
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tongues".)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can discount all you want.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Just look at your posts.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Done. you had your chance -- i reject the contention that "Nordstrup
> > > > > > > > > > > > and Pau speak with forked tongues" for lack of evidence.
>
> > > > > > > > > You can reject whatever.
> > > > > > > > > I don't give a rats asss about your rejection and either does anyone
> > > > > > > > > else.
>
> > > > > > > > Such wisdom and insight into "anyone else's" thinking! Shall we count
> > > > > > > > it as practical benefit Number One of rosenbergist ~training~ in self-
> > > > > > > > delusion?
>
> > > > > > > Not at all Muse. Just common Sense.
>
> > > > > > Common sense tells you that nobody gives a rat's ass about my
> > > > > > application of the rules of engagement ? Based on what?
>
> > > > > Feedback.
>
> > > > You have feedback from all the bandits in Mauretania?
>
> > You have feedback from all the bandits in Mauretania, Bruno?

I begin to entertain some niggling doubts as to whether you got a
100% return from all the bandits in Mauritian, Bruno. In such a case,
you could hardly claim that "nobody gives a rat's ass"... But just to
check up, I'll ask again: you have feedback from all the bandits in
Mauritania, Bruno?

> > > > > No one here reads or cares about  our conversation.
>
> > > > We debate for posterity alone...
>
> > > > > Maybe Pau   reads it but does not get involved.
>
> > > > Where you grant a "maybe", you cannot claim a "no one". That would
> > > > involve an obvious self-contradiction...
>
> > > No contradiction at all. The PAU I am referring to is your other half.
> > > The  No one refers to the rest of the group.
>
> > Such convenient post-hoc re-framing...
>
> Such convenient statements.

Indeed. And freighted with heft and pomposity.

> > > > > > > > > > > Fine . AT least after all these years you have accepted your other
> > > > > > > > > > > Muse friend
> > > > > > > > > > > Pau as being the wondorus Serena Nordstrup.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >  Now that is a revelation!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > > > Billions of people in the world, and you've identified two for whom
> > > > > > > > > > you have no evidence that they speak with forked tongues. Well done,
> > > > > > > > > > that man!
>
> > > > > > > > > Well if you  Serena and Pau  don't want to read the posts that" s your
> > > > > > > > > problems.
>
> > > > > > > > Speaking for myself -- I read the posts and enjoy doing so. Where do
> > > > > > > > you see any problem in not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > > > > What about Pau????
>
> > > > > > Indeed, what about Pau?
>
> > > > Yeah, Bruno: what about Pau?

What about Pau, Bruno?

> > > > > > Back to the question: Where do you see any problem in not wanting to
> > > > > > read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > > > Well if you enjoy reading the posts I am happy for you.
>
> > > > Nice. But to return to my question:  Where do you see any problem in
> > > > not wanting to read posts, Bruno?
>
> > > Forget it my wonderful Muse. Its over.
>
> > Do you withdraw your previous contention that some problem exists with
> > unwillingness to read posts?
>
> No.
>
> Its over.

One doesn't flog a dead horse. One leaves it on the floor to fester
with the other dead horses.