Debunking Landmark
elle...@hotmail.com
"Dynamix" refenced this article recently on Rick Ross's message board.
It's an old one but still relevent for anyone who want to know what we
are talking about.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/landmark/LandmarkEd.html
Ellen
Glam
dunkirk
> ***Begin drumroll for "Tex's" oncoming Rick Ross ad hominem...****
I would be pleased to do the honors:
PREEEEEEEEEEE-SENTING
THE ONE AND ONLY
MISTER KNOW IT ALL HIMMMMSELF
HOOOOOOOOOOORSES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
Markus Welch
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"From the 'wrong' corner...wearing the est trunks...the self-proclaimed est
graduate 'scientist' asshole from who knows where and remains
anonymous....."
Let's get ready to RUMBLE!!!!!
Tex
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A little "agreement party," how quaint. {:~D
One "smart bomb" could take out the three stooges, huddling about with
self-congratulatory back slaps. LOL!!!
>
>
Markus Welch
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Ah...
Mr Est Adovacate is present... and he has never agreed to anything except to
hand over his cash and mind over to a cult...
And in that ~education~ was taught a different meaning for agreement. What
a great investement! Agreed?
bruno Tonon
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Werner Erhard and his work and ideas are profiled, acknowledged, drawn
upon in the following publications and selected letters. There are numerous
publications that draw on the original work and ideas of Werner Erhard
without directly acknowledging the fact, for example, The Art of
Possibility: Transforming Professional and Personal Life, by Rosamund Stone
Zander and Benjamin Zander, Who Moved My Cheese? An Amazing Way to Deal
with Change, in Your Work and in Your Life, by Spencer Johnson, M.D. and
True to our Roots: Fermenting a Business Revolution, by Paul Dolan with
Thom Elkjer.
Publications
LifeWords!.for Success! A Sound Portrait of Words and Wisdom,
collected and spoken by Larry James, 2006
(www.celebratelove.com/lifewords.htm).
Real Leadership: Helping People and Organizations Face Their Toughest
Challenges, by Dean Williams. San Francisco: Berrett-Koehler Publishers,
Inc., 2005.
Reading Under the Covers: An Autobiography, by Elizabeth Goodell
Russell. Lincoln, Neb.: iUniverse, Inc., 2005.
"Interview: Stewart Stern, Part Two," by Kim Voynar, Cinematical,
2005
(http://www.cinematical.com/2005/09/02/interview-stewart-stern-part-two/).
Civic Engagement and the Restoration of Communication: Changing the
Nature of the Conversation, by Peter Block, 2005
(http://www.peterblock.com/assets/Civic.pdf).
"Always in Character: Jeff Bridges, He Plays for Keeps - as an Actor
and a Man," by Annette Tapert. Town & Country, August 2005.
"Neale's Blog," February 13, 2005 (http://nealeu.blogspot.com).
"Enlightenment Blues by Andre van der Braak," by Lorrie Kazan,
Intuitive-Connections, 2005 (www.lorriekazan.com/articles_06.html).
"Story Structure Gurus," by Todd Coleman, 2004
(www.atalentscout.com/article_gurus.html).
"Civic Engagement and the Restoration of Community-Changing the Nature
of the Conversation," Civic Engagement Series, Sponsored by A Small Group,
2004 (www.asmallgroup.net).
Making Work Work: A Leader's Guide to Creating an Extraordinary
Organization, by Scott Hunter. Irvine, Calif.: Hunter Alliance Press,
2004.
"Honoring Werner for Our Start," by Dollene Spencer. Youth At Risk
Newsletter, April 2004.
Look the Future Straight in the Eye: Action Beyond the Great
Postmodern Jeremiad, by Tom Riley. Frederick, Md.: PublishAmerica, 2004.
"Personal-Growth Sector: Candles. Classes. E-Meters. From Kabbalah
to the Landmark Forum, Self-improvement Doesn't Come Cheap," by Jacob
Bernstein. New York Magazine, June 21, 2004.
Self Improvement: The Top 101 Experts That Help us Improve our Lives,
by David Riklan. Marlboro, N.J.: Self Improvement Online, Inc. 2004.
"Interfaith Advocate for Including Everyone at the Table," by Sharon
Abercrombie. Catholic San Francisco, May 14, 2004.
"Promises vs. Guarantees." Humans and Computer: Writings on
Projects, Language, and Design
(http://www.humansandcomputing.org/archives/cat_communication.html),
February 18, 2004.
"Mike Robbins' Appreciation in Action"
(http://www.mike-robbins.com/app-in-action12-04.htm).
www.insightsforworkability.com/contents.htm (quotes Werner Erhard's
definition of love).
"Is Self-Help the New Religion?" by Peter Silverton. Marie Claire
(UK), July 4, 2003.
"So What is The Landmark Forum?" by Amelia Hill. London Observer,
December 14, 2003.
Spiritually Incorrect: Finding God in All the Wrong Places, by Dan
Wakefield, illustrations by Marian DelVecchio. SkyLight Paths Publishing,
2003.
Leaders: Strategies for Taking Charge, by Warren G. Bennis and Burt
Nanus. New York: HarperCollins, 2003.
"Wonder Landmark," by Tomer Keren. Petach Tikva, Israel: The Green
Newspaper January 30, 2003 (in Hebrew).
True to our Roots: Fermenting a Business Revolution, by Paul Dolan
with Thom Elkjer. Princeton, N.J.: Bloomberg Press, 2003.
Massage Magazine interview (date unknown) with Patricia Cramer
(founder of World School of Massage and Holistic Healing Arts) by Robert
Calvert (http://www.worldschoolmassage.com/art-massage.html).
"Resistance and the Background Conversations of Change," by Jeffrey D.
Ford, Laurie W. Ford, and Randall T. McNamara. Journal of Organizational
Change Management, Vol. 15, No. 2, 2002.
Self Realization, by Espy M. Navarro and Robert Navarro.
Philadelphia, Pa.: Xlibris Corporation, 2002.
"Finding Each Other Through The Forum," by Dianna Marder, Philadelphia
Inquirer Sunday Magazine (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania), January 27, 2002.
"'Transformation' in a Weekend?" by Oliver Libaw, ABCNews.com, August
13, 2002.
"Top-Ranking Adventure" (www.Top100Expo.com), 2002.
Honest to God: A Change of Heart That Can Change the World, by Brad
Blanton and Neale Donald Walsch. Stanley, Virginia: Sparrowhawk
Publications, 2002.
Fish! Tales: Real Life Stories to Help You Transform Your Workplace
and Your Life, by Stephen C. Lundin, John Christensen, and Harry Paul, with
Philip Strand. New York: Hyperion, 2002.
"The Promise of Philosophy and the Landmark Forum," by Steven R.
McCarl, Steve Zaffron, Joyce McCarl Nielsen, and Sally Lewis Kennedy.
Contemporary Philosophy, Vol. 23, Nos. 1 & 2, Jan./Feb. & Mar./Apr., 2001,
pp. 51-59.
"Repeat Offenders," by Karen Miles. Good Medicine, April 2001.
"Victim Reaches Out, Robbed Shopkeeper Chooses to Aid Teens," by Doug
Mattson. The Union, April 2, 2001.
"Our Life Changing Experience," by Ann Drew, The Probe (U.K.), June
2001.
"What Do You Like About Your Life?" by Ellen Snortland. Pasadena
Weekly (Pasadena, California), June 28, 2001.
"How to Deal with Difficult People - And Difficult Problems" Civic
Strategies, Inc., 2001 (www.civic-strategies.com/library/difficult.pdf).
Coach Anyone About Anything: How to Help People Succeed in Business
and Life, by Germaine Porché and Jed Niederer. Del Mar, Calif.: Wharton
Publishing, 2001.
You Are What You Say: The Proven Program That Uses the Power of
Language to Combat Stress, Anger, and Depression, by Matthew Budd, M.D., and
Larry Rothstein, Ed.D. New York: Three Rivers Press, 2001.
The Art of Possibility: Transforming Professional and Personal Life,
by Rosamund Stone Zander and Benjamin Zander. Boston: Harvard Business
School Press, 2000.
You Are What You Say: A Harvard Doctor's Six-Step Proven Program for
Transforming Stress Through the Power of Language, by Matthew Budd, M.D. and
Larry Rothstein, Ed.D. New York: Crown Publishers, 2000.
Surfing the Edge of Chaos: The Laws of Nature and the New Laws of
Business, by Richard T. Pascale, Mark Millemann, and Linda Gioja. New York:
Crown Business, 2000.
"The Science of Consciousness-The Next Scientific Paradigm," by
William A. Guillory, Ph.D., December 23, 2000.
(www.creativityandinquiry.org/ScienceofConsciousness.html)
Principles of Powerful Living, by Joe Rubino. Jaico Books, 2000.
Fish! A Remarkable Way to Boost Morale and Improve Results, by
Stephen C. Lundin, Harry Paul, and John Christensen. New York: Hyperion,
2000.
"A Shortcut to Motivated and Adaptive Workforces, Phase 1 Results."
The Talent Foundation (www.talentfoundation.org), London, June 2000.
"The Story of Our Lives," by Vanora Bennett. London Times Magazine,
July 2000.
Carlos Vasconcellos do Rio, "Landmark Uses Dialogue to Captivate,"
Gazeta do Rio, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, February 2, 2000.
"Creativity: The Essential Act," by Alex Adrian. Light Network,
Issue 34, December 1999/January 2000
(www.photon.net/lightnet/pastissue/issue34/34-2.htm).
The IMC, Inc. Report: Evaluations of Landmark Education's Programs.
The Harris Survey: Money: The Impact of Landmark's Programs on
Participants' Income Levels.
Olga Nietta Loffredi and Steve Zaffron, "High Performance Teams: a
New Paradigm." Developers' CIO Magazine, Brazil, September, 1999.
Happy, Texas, a film directed by Mark Illsley, 1999.
The Shadow on the Path: Clearing the Psychological Blocks to
Spiritual Development, by V.J. Fedorschak (Chapter 4, pages 118-122).
Prescott, Arizona: Hohm Press, 1999.
"Soul Training," by Alison Bass. Boston Globe, March 3, 1999.
"A Critical Analysis of the Transformative Model of Mediation," by
T.L. Kelly. Unpublished graduate paper, Portland State University,
Portland, Ore., April 1999.
"A Very Nineties Weekend," by Annabel Miller. The Tablet, May 1999.
Who Moved My Cheese? An Amazing Way to Deal with Change, in Your Work
and in Your Life, by Spencer Johnson, M.D. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons,
1998.
"The Best of est?" by Charlotte Faltermayer. Time Magazine, March 16,
1998.
"This Is It: est, Twenty Years Later," by Eliezer Sobel. The Quest,
Summer 1998.
Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 3), by Neale
Donald Walsch. Charlottesville, Va.: Hampton Roads Publishing Company,
Inc., 1998.
"Transforming the Network of Conversations in BHP New Zealand Steel:
Landmark Education Business Development's New Paradigm for Organizational
Change," by David C. Logan. Marshall School of Business Case L984-01,
University of Southern California, 1998.
"Landmark Education Corporation: Selling a Paradigm Shift," by Karen
Hopper Wruck and Mikelle Fisher Eastley. Harvard Business School Case
9-898-081. President and Fellows of Harvard College, 1997 (revised April
22, 1998).
Christian Belief and the 'New Awareness': A Qualitative Sociological
Study and a Theological Critique, by Gillian Paschkes-Bell. Master of
Theology, University of Oxford, 1998.
Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 2), by Neale
Donald Walsch. Charlottesville, Va.: Hampton Roads Publishing Company,
Inc., 1997.
Leadership and the Art of Conversation, by Kim H. Krisco. Prima
Publishing, 1997.
"The Weekend That Changed My Life." Teen Magazine (U.S.), February,
1997.
Radical Honesty: How to Transform Your Life By Telling the Truth, by
Brad Blanton, Ph.D. New York: Dell Publishing, 1996.
"Landmark - a special partner in our success." BHP San Manuel Update,
a publication for BHP Copper Employees, Vol. 12, No. 5, May, 1996.
Elaine Rosen, UNUM Life Insurance Company of America, October 25,
1996.
"Come On! There's a New Life Waiting Over the Weekend," by Jill P.
Capuzzo. Philadelphia Inquirer (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania), March 1996.
Conversations with God: An Uncommon Dialogue (Book 1), by Neale
Donald Walsch. Charlottesville, Va.: Hampton Roads Publishing Company,
Inc., 1995.
The Last Word on Power, by Tracy Goss. Currency, 1995.
"Coaching and the Art of Management," by Roger D. Evered and James C.
Selman. In The Performance Measurement, Management, and Appraisal
Sourcebook, edited by Douglas G. Shaw, Craig Eric Schneier, Ph.D., Richard
W. Beatty, Ph.D., and Lloyd S. Baird, Ph.D. Amherst, Mass.: Human Resource
Development Press, Inc., 1995.
"A New Paradigm for Educational Change," by Robert J. Marzano, Steve
Zaffron, Linda Zraik, Sanford L. Robbins, and Lois Yoon. Education, Vol.
116, No. 2, Winter 1995.
"Winning Ideas in Management: Distilled Wisdom: Buddy, Can You
Paradigm?," by Brian Dumaine. Fortune Magazine, May 15, 1995, pp. 205-206.
"Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy in Russia: Perspectives and
Problems of International Technology Transfer and Investment," by Eric
Martinot, Ph.D. Dissertation, University of California at Berkeley, 1995.
(www.martinot.info/Martinot_UCB.pdf)
"An Ontological Approach to Education," by Bruce Hyde. Paper
presented at the annual conference of the Western States Communication
Association, Portland, Oregon, February 1995.
"Discovering New Inner Strength," by Eugene Koay. Texans Talk
(Arlington, Texas), November 10, 1995.
"Erhard in Exile" by Dan Wakefield. Common Boundary, March/April
1994.
"Landmark Forum Can Make a Difference," by Wyatt Emmerich. Northside
Sun (Jackson, Mississippi), May 26, 1994.
"The Landmark Forum," by Akasha. Sydney Tribune, June 1994.
"On Course for a Change," by Sharon Walker. Health and Fitness
Magazine, September 1993.
Tracy Goss, Richard Pascale, and Anthony Athos, in "The Reinvention
Roller Coaster: Risking the Present for a Powerful Future" Harvard Business
Review, Nov./Dec. 1993.
"Comparative Effects in Business and Education of an Intervention
Designed to Produce Second Order Change," by Robert J. Marzano and Linda
Zraik. Technical report, Landmark Education Corporation, San Francisco,
California, 1993.
60 Minutes and the Assassination of Werner Erhard: How America's Top
Rated Television Show Was Used In An Attempt To Destroy A Man Who Was Making
A Difference, by Jane Self. Houston, Texas: Breakthru Publishing, 1992.
"3-Day Workshop for NHID Helps Fannie Mae Manage for the Future."
NewsLink, Fannie Mae Employees, Vol. 23, No. 10, October 1992.
"A Breakthrough Conference: Inventing the Future." Newsletter for
Aging in America, Winter 1991.
Inventing Reality, Physics as Language, by Bruce Gregory. New York:
John Wiley & Sons, Inc., 1990.
Jack A. Gilbert in Productivity Management, A Step-by-Step Guide for
Health Care Professionals. (American Hospital Pub, 1990)
"Breaking Out of the Box," by Debra Feinstein and Werner Erhard.
Benchmark, A Xerox Publication, Fall, 1989.
"The Psychological Effects of Participation in a Large Group Awareness
Training: Final Report of a Longitudinal Investigation," by J.D. Fisher, R.
Cohen-Silver, J.M. Chinsky, B. Goff, and Y. Klar. University of
Connecticut, 1989.
"Psychological Effects of Participation in a Large Group Awareness
Training," by J.D. Fisher, R. Cohen Silver, J.M. Chinsky, B. Goff, Y. Klar,
and C. Zagieboylo. Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology, Vol. 57,
No. 6, 1989, pp. 747-755.
The Yankelovich (DYG, Inc.) Study: Analysis of The Landmark Forum and
Its Benefits (study conducted in 1989).
"Ending Hunger: The Era of Opportunity. The Commitments and Promises
of The Hunger Project." New York: The Hunger Project, 1988
(audiocassette).
"Create Breakthroughs in Performance by Changing the Conversation," by
Perry Pascarella. Industry Week, Vol. 233, No. 6 (June 15), 1987.
"The Impact of The Forum on the Religious Beliefs and Practices of
Participants," by E. Babbie and J. Mantos. A report on the results of an
independent survey by Arthur Young & Company, 1987.
"The Heart of the Matter." San Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1985 (set
of three audiocassettes).
Leaders: The Strategies for Taking Charge, by Warren Bennis and Burt
Nanus. HarperCollins, 1985.
"Family, Tape 1: Between Parent and Child. Phyllis Allen." San
Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1984 (audiocassette).
"What is the Possibility of Relationship? The Complete, Unabridged
Course by Werner Erhard." San Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1984 (set of three
audiocassettes).
"The Forum Presents: Conversations with Werner Erhard, Volume I.
Tape 1: Defining Your Life; Tape 2: On Problems; Tape 3: On
Relationships." San Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1983 (set of three
audiocassettes).
"Questions and Answers: An Interview With Werner Erhard About The est
Training." San Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1983 (audiocassette).
"Taking a Stand for the Future. Werner Erhard." San Francisco:
Werner Erhard, 1983 (audiocassette).
"Reflections on est Training from the Viewpoint of Two Correctional
Psychologists," by C.S. Moss and R.E. Hosford. International Journal of
Eclectic Psychotherapy, Vol. 2, No. 1 (February), 1983, pp. 18-39.
"Shifts in the Countertransference Perceptions of Selected
Psychotherapists Undergoing est Self-Awareness Training," by Barbara
Knight-Meyers, Ph.D. University of Pennsylvania, 1983. [Cited in
Dissertation Abstracts International, Section A, Vol. 44, No. 4 (October),
1983, p. 1031-A.]
"The End of Starvation: Creating an Idea Whose Time Has Come," by
Werner Erhard. The Hunger Project, San Francisco, 1982.
"Creation: A Matter of Distinction. Werner Erhard." San Francisco:
Werner Erhard, 1982 (audiocassette).
"A Special Guest Seminar. Werner Erhard." San Francisco: Werner
Erhard, 1981 (audiocassette).
"Parents: The Fundamental Relationship. Werner Erhard." San
Francisco: Werner Erhard, 1981 (audiocassette).
"A World That Works for Everyone. Werner Erhard." San Francisco:
est, an educational corporation, 1980 (audiocassette).
"Relationships: Making Them Work. Werner Erhard." San Francisco:
Werner Erhard, 1980 (audiocassette).
"Research on Erhard Seminars Training in a Correctional Institution,"
by R.E. Hosford, C.S. Moss, H. Cavior, and B. Kerish. Federal Correctional
Institution, Lompoc, California, 1980.
"Erhard Seminars Training (est): A Theoretical and Empirical
Inquiry," by Denise Suzanne Puishes, Psy.D. Rutgers University, The State
University of New Jersey, 1979. [Cited in Dissertation Abstracts
International, Section B, Vol. 40, No. 7 (January), 1980, p. 3417-B.]
"A Follow-Up of Personality Changes Subsequent to the Erhard Seminar
Training (est)," by Douglas Lee Hazen, Ph.D. California School of
Professional Psychology, San Diego, 1980. [Cited in Dissertation Abstracts
International, Section B, Vol. 41, No. 6 (December), 1980, p. 2322-B.]
"Ego Development, Cognitive Style, and the est Standard Training," by
John Martin Hartke, Ph.D. Temple University, 1980. [Cited in Dissertation
Abstracts International, Section B, Vol. 41, No. 1 (July), 1980, p. 353-B.]
"Celebrating Your Relationships. Werner Erhard." San Francisco:
est, an educational corporation, 1979 (audiocassette).
Werner Erhard: The Transformation of a Man: The Founding of est, by
William Warren Bartley, III. New York: Clarkson N. Potter, Inc., 1978.
Christianity and est, by Max B. Skousen. Marina del Ray, California:
DeVorss & Company, 1978.
"est in Prison - General Overview," by E. Babbie. American Journal of
Corrections, Vol. 39, No. 6 (November/December), 1977, pp. 22-36 and Vol.
40, No. 1 (January/February), 1978, p. 25.
"A Description of the Erhard Seminars Training (est) in Terms of
Behavior Analysis," by D.M. Baer and S.B. Stolz. Behaviorism, Vol. 6, No 1
(Spring), 1978, pp. 45-70.
"Observations on 67 Patients Who Took Erhard Seminars Training," by J.
Simon. American Journal of Psychiatry, Vol. 135, No. 6 (June), 1978,
pp.686-691.
"The Use of est as Adjunctive Therapy to Family-Focused Treatment," by
N.L. Paul. Journal of Marriage and Family Counseling, Vol. 4 (1), 1978, pp.
51-61.
"A Short Biography of John Denver"
(www.shellworld.net/~emily/articles/SHORTBIO.TXT).
"Reported Changes in Personality, Self Concept, and Personal Problems
Following Erhard Seminars Training (est)," by Jeffrey Alan Weiss, Ph.D.
California School of Professional Psychology, San Diego, 1977. [Cited in
Dissertation Abstracts International, Section B, Vol. 38, No. 8 (February),
1978, pp. 3919-3920-B.]
Society by Agreement: An Introduction to Sociology, by Earl R.
Babbie. Wadsworth Pub. Co., 1977.
"An Evaluation of the est Experience by a National Sample of
Graduates," by E. Babbie and D. Stone. Biosciences Communications, Vol. 3,
No. 2, 1977, pp. 123-140.
"An Evaluation of est as an Adjunct to Group Psychotherapy in the
Treatment of Severe Alcoholism," by J. Simon. Biosciences Communications,
Vol. 3, No. 2, 1977, pp. 141-148.
Transformations, by John Dan Reib, 1976
(http://gwydion.la/John-Dan-Reib/transformations.doc).
est: 60 Hours that Transform your Life, by Adelaide Bry. New York:
Harper & Row, 1976.
Getting It: The Psychology of est, by Dr. Sheridan Fenwick.
Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott, 1976.
est: Four Days to Make Your Life Work, by William Greene.
Pocketbooks, 1976.
est: Making Life Work, by Robert A. Hargrove. New York: Dell
Publishing, 1976.
The est Experience, by James Kettle. Zebra Books, 1976.
est: The Movement and the Man, by Pat R. Marks. Playboy Press 1976.
The est Experience, by Donald Porter and Diane Taxson. Award Books,
1976.
The Book of est, by Luke Rhinehart. New York: Holt, Rinehart and
Winston, 1976.
"Erhard Seminars Training: A Longitudinal Study of its Psychological
Effects, Using Selected Scales Measured by the California Psychological
Inventory," by Leilani Lewis, Ph.D. California School of Professional
Psychology, Berkeley, 1976. [Cited in American Doctoral Dissertations
1976-1977 (Index), p. 364.]
"The est Experience: A Contextual Approach to Education," by Frank
Ronald Siccone, Ed.D. University of Massachusetts, 1976. [Cited in
Dissertation Abstracts International, Section A, Vol. 37, No. 4 (October),
1976, pp. 2087-2088-B.]
"Castro Valley Unified School District, Title III, Parents as
Partners," by R. Hoepfner. Summertime Evaluation Report, 1975.
est: Playing the Game the New Way, by Carl Frederick. New York:
Dell Publishing, 1974.
"Evaluation of the Erhard Seminars Training," by C.S. Moss and G.
Morrell. Federal Correctional Institution, Lompoc, California, 1974.
"Continued Evaluation of the Erhard Seminars Training," by C.S. Moss,
J.E. Tufte, and W.R. Anderson. Federal Correctional Institution, Lompoc,
California, 1974.
"Abstracts of The Behaviordyne Report on Psychological Changes
After Taking the Erhard Seminars Training," by M. Tondow, R. Teague, J.
Finney, and G. LeMaistre. Palo Alto, California, 1973.
"A Report of Psychological Changes Measured 18 Months after Taking
Erhard Seminars Training," by L. Lewis. San Francisco: est, 1973.
"Psychological and Physiological Changes Measured After Taking the
Erhard Seminars Training," by R. Ornstein, C. Swencionis, A. Deikman, and R.
Morris. San Francisco: est (unpublished), 1973.
Selected Letters
Brent R. Martini, President, AmerisourceBergen Drug Company, September
25, 2002
Rabbi Nahum Spirn, March 18, 2002
Raymond Fowler, Ph. D. (former Chief Executive Officer, American
Psychological Association), November 30, 1999
Father Enrique Montero, Papal Nuncio, August 24, 1998
Ronald Banks, Chief of Police, Inglewood, California, July 16, 1998
Chaya Adler, Founder and Director, Carlebach Institute, March 25, 1997
Edward Sumber, Attorney, March 24, 1997
Rabbi Yaacov Gabriel, Congregation Har Shalom, March 24, 1997
Rabbi Arnold Belzer, Congregation Mickve Israel, February 11, 1997
Aloma Marquis, Former FBI Special Agent, February 3, 1997
Thomas Moselle, Captain, Los Angeles Police Department, November 19,
1996
Joseph DeLadurantey, Chief of Police, Torrance, California, November
15, 1996
Edward Lowell, M.D., P. A., November 14, 1996
Richard Bralliar, M. D., November 7, 1996
John Mutz, Captain, Los Angeles Police Department, November 6, 1996
Bruce Borkosky, Ph. D., November 6, 1996
Gregory Lester, Ph. D., November 6, 1996
Bruce Hagerty, Captain, Los Angeles Police Department, October 31,
1996
Daniel Yankelovich, Chairman of DYG, Inc.
James Miller, M. D., October 29, 1996
Shlomo Shoham, Retired Judge (Legal Advisor to the Israel Knesseth),
April 23, 1996
Paul Fireman, Chairman and CEO, Reebok International Ltd., March 7,
1996
Robert P. Mueller, Vice President, Magma Copper Company, November 17,
1995
Anthony R. Young, President/CEO, Doctors' Hospital, Tulsa, Oklahoma,
November 11, 1994
Chris Risley, CEO, ON Technology Corporation, September 16, 1994
William Cox, Pastor, New London/Spicer United Methodist Church,
October 28, 1993
Rev. Dean Simpson, October 21, 1993
Rev. Msgr. Winus Roeten, Pastor, Our Lady of Lourdes Church, October
8, 1993
Rev. P. Gerard O'Rourke, Administrator, St. Agnes Church, September
16, 1993
Roy L. Schweyer, Deputy Director for Housing, City of Oakland,
Oakland, California, September 14, 1993
Rev. Jack Hennings, Jr., Faith Community Episcopal Church, September
14, 1993
Sister Miriam Quinn, O. P., Archdiocese of New Orleans, September 13,
1993
Reverend Robert Schearer, Holy Trinity Episcopal Church, September 8,
1993
M. Basil Pennington, OCSO (Cistercian Order of the Strict Observance
[Trappists]), March 8, 1993
Lowell Streiker, Ph. D., February 16, 1993
Rt. Rev. Otis Charles, Bishop of the Episcopal Church (Anglican) in
the United States and Dean, Episcopal Divinity School, September 24, 1992
Kenneth M. Happel, CEO/Chairman, OMNIGON, San Diego, California,
September 5, 1992
David L. Vergeyle, President/Chief Operating Officer, John Ryan
Company, June 15, 1992
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Fix your clock, cultist.
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>I don't care if people get hurt! I just want them to join my cult!
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Tex
What was that different meaning Markus?
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bruno Tonon
The clock in my Toyota 4wd 1991 model is also 1 hour ahead. When I go to
work I just
take 1 hour of the time to know whether I am late or not.
The clock in my sons car is 10 minutes behind, it stays that way because I
don't know how to fix it.
I haven't worn a watch for 20 years and time does not mean much to me. There
are
clocks everywhere to assit me with time.
When I was assisting I was told to bring a watch in, and never did except on
one
occasion maybe???
I can recall someone else bringing a watch for me, and I thought that was
funny about them being so anal about time.
However I do think being on time is important, and try to stick to my
appointments.
Does the time on my computer affect anyone???
Just curious why Markus gets so angry about my clock.
cheers Bruno
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Tex
"Markus Welch" <mar...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> news:446fcb28$0$4048$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>
>
> Fix your clock, cultist.
Why are you posting EDT Markus?
Are you no longer in San Jose?
Fix you clock, Ayn Rand Cultist. {:~D
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard23.html
The philosophical rationale for keeping Rand cultists in blissful ignorance
was the Randian theory of "not giving your sanction to the Enemy." Reading
the Enemy (which, with a few carefully selected exceptions, meant all non-
or anti-Randians) meant "giving him your moral sanction," which was strictly
forbidden as irrational. In a few selected cases, limited exceptions were
made for leading cult members who could prove that they had to read certain
Enemy works in order to refute them. This book-banning reached its apogee
after the titanic Rand-Branden split in late 1968, a split which was the
moral equivalent in miniature of, say, a split between Marx and Lenin, or
between Jesus and St. Paul. In a development eerily reminiscent of the
organized hatred directed against the arch-heretic Emanuel Goldstein in
Orwell's 1984, Rand cultists were required to sign a loyalty oath to Rand;
essential to the loyalty oath was a declaration that the signer would
henceforth never read any future works of the apostate and arch-heretic
Branden. After the split, any Rand cultist seen carrying a book or writing
by Branden was promptly excommunicated. Close relatives of Branden were
expected to - and did - break with him completely.
Interestingly enough for a movement which proclaimed its devotion to the
individual exertion of reason, to curiosity, and to the question "Why?"
cultists were required to swear their unquestioning belief that Rand was
right and Branden wrong, even though they were not permitted to learn the
facts behind the split. In fact, the mere failure to take a stand, the mere
attempt to find the facts, or the statement that one could not take a stand
on such a grave matter without knowledge of the facts was sufficient for
instant expulsion. For such an attitude was conclusive proof of the
defective "loyalty" of the disciple to his guru, Ayn Rand.
>
>
Tex
> Why does it bother you Marcus because my clock is 1 hour ahead of time????
Hi Bruno,
It appears you are actually 1 day and 1 hour behind. It is Sunday 12:38 PM
now.
Markus is an IT guy, this much have special "meaning" to him. {:~D
>
> The clock in my Toyota 4wd 1991 model is also 1 hour ahead. When I go to
> work I just
> take 1 hour of the time to know whether I am late or not.
>
> The clock in my sons car is 10 minutes behind, it stays that way because
> I don't know how to fix it.
>
> I haven't worn a watch for 20 years and time does not mean much to me.
> There are
> clocks everywhere to assit me with time.
>
> When I was assisting I was told to bring a watch in, and never did except
> on one
> occasion maybe???
> I can recall someone else bringing a watch for me, and I thought that was
> funny about them being so anal about time.
> However I do think being on time is important, and try to stick to my
> appointments.
>
> Does the time on my computer affect anyone???
> Just curious why Markus gets so angry about my clock.
Because he's an angry idiot with no life.
Markus Welch
>
> "Markus Welch" <mar...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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>> "bruno Tonon" <bto...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:446fcb28$0$4048$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>
>>
>> Fix your clock, cultist.
>
> Why are you posting EDT Markus?
> Are you no longer in San Jose?
>
> Fix you clock, Ayn Rand Cultist. {:~D
>
You have proven again you are a fool.
The EDT time on my post is marked by the nntp server and it is accurate, not
off by an hour.
498 North 2nd Street
San Jose, CA 95112.
Come by and I'll fix your clock also, asshole.
<Snip>
bruno Tonon
Its also Sunday here in cloudy Melbourne at the correct time is 12.50 Pm
according to my clock in the kitchen.
Its sunday afternoon and I am going to rush out to cut my lawn before it
rains.
cheers bruno
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bruno Tonon
> news:446fd12a$0$6395$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Why does it bother you Marcus because my clock is 1 hour ahead of
>> time????
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> It appears you are actually 1 day and 1 hour behind. It is Sunday 12:38 PM
> now.
> Markus is an IT guy, this much have special "meaning" to him. {:~D
Hi Tex it must be 12.38 Am Sunday morning where you are.
Its Sunday afternoon here in Melbourne.
cheers Bruno
Tex
I'm sorry Bruno,
I was giving you your time. It is Saturday 10:55 PM East coast time.
Your computer is saying it is Saturday, May 20th 11:48 PM.
I had it wrong before, you are 13 hours behind on your computer.
We have had floods around here this week, and I just finally got to cut my
grass too.
Enjoy the day, and thanks for the links on Werner.
In that most recent picture, he looked troubled.
He should relax a little.
Cheers,
Tex
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Tex
>
> "Tex" <ritte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Markus Welch" <mar...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:L_Pbg.90272$dW3....@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>> "bruno Tonon" <bto...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:446fcb28$0$4048$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fix your clock, cultist.
>>
>> Why are you posting EDT Markus?
>> Are you no longer in San Jose?
>>
>> Fix you clock, Ayn Rand Cultist. {:~D
>>
>
> You have proven again you are a fool.
>
> The EDT time on my post is marked by the nntp server and it is accurate,
> not off by an hour.
Bruno's posts were off by 13 hours you dipshit. {:~D
It's Sunday where he is, not Saturday.
You are a sorry excuse for an Objectivist. ;-D
bruno Tonon
> LOL
>
> I'm sorry Bruno,
> I was giving you your time. It is Saturday 10:55 PM East coast time.
> Your computer is saying it is Saturday, May 20th 11:48 PM.
> I had it wrong before, you are 13 hours behind on your computer.
> We have had floods around here this week, and I just finally got to cut my
> grass too.
> Enjoy the day, and thanks for the links on Werner.
> In that most recent picture, he looked troubled.
> He should relax a little.
>
> Cheers,
Hey Tex can you check my time and date. I finanly fixed it.
You know if Marcus had been a supervisor in LEC he
would have made life hell for the assisters.
He would have been so Company orientated and followed the
rules to a tee.
I met those kind of guys and disliked them intensely.
They are the ones that give LEC a bad name.
Thats why I stopped assisting.
cheers Bruno
Tex
>
> "Tex" <ritte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:LZGdnXbg84KYRfLZ...@adelphia.com...
>> LOL
>>
>> I'm sorry Bruno,
>> I was giving you your time. It is Saturday 10:55 PM East coast time.
>> Your computer is saying it is Saturday, May 20th 11:48 PM.
>> I had it wrong before, you are 13 hours behind on your computer.
>> We have had floods around here this week, and I just finally got to cut
>> my grass too.
>> Enjoy the day, and thanks for the links on Werner.
>> In that most recent picture, he looked troubled.
>> He should relax a little.
>>
>> Cheers,
>
> Hey Tex can you check my time and date. I finanly fixed it.
Hi Bruno,
It now say Saturday May 20th, 11:09 PM.
Now your just funnin' with us. {:~D
It should say Sunday May 21st, 1:09 PM
Your NNTP time stamp is correct, in the properties of the post.
Now change it pronto before Markus comes to Melbourne to "fix your clock."
Or maybe he'll have a nervous breakdown over it.
At least now your post are showing up here at the same time as ours.
Thanks.
> You know if Marcus had been a supervisor in LEC he
> would have made life hell for the assisters.
> He would have been so Company orientated and followed the
> rules to a tee.
> I met those kind of guys and disliked them intensely.
> They are the ones that give LEC a bad name.
>
> Thats why I stopped assisting.
When I managed teams for the Special Guest Seminars, I was often
complimented on how much fun people had on my teams.
I met some of the head cases you talk about. I fixed a couple of them really
good.
What were they going to do, dock me a days pay? [:~D
Ultimately, that's one of the reasons I stopped assisting too.
Who needs to take shit while "volunteering."
The staff member who was the Production Manager in the early 80s was
awesome. The worst thing he'd say to the assistants was "OK, let's 'heavy
up' for a moment." He didn't stay on staff very long, or he moved to another
Center. H was a young Harvard grad.
bruno Tonon
Don't know what you mean by NNTP.
Don't do to well on the technicalities of computers.
cheers Bruno
Its SUnday 1.42 PM on my cloooooooock here.
"Tex" <ritte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tex
> Hi Tex I checked it again and its okay up my end.
> Don't know what you mean by NNTP.
>
> Don't do to well on the technicalities of computers.
>
> cheers Bruno
>
> Its SUnday 1.42 PM on my cloooooooock here.
It's still showing up as Saturday 11:42 PM May 5/20/2006
Your NNTP server time is:
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:42:12 +1000
So you are 14 hours behind your local time on your post.
NNTP stands for Network News Transport Protocol.
When you changed your time earlier your posts rolled back an hour earlier.
Don't know.
Markus will have to live with it. {:-D
Estie
bruno Tonon wrote:
> Here are some books and articles espousing some of the ideas of Werner
> Erhard.
Oh! It's the "we still worship Werner" crowd! Even has some entries
of Werner worshiping Werner.
Do you ever look at a balanced view of *anything*, Bruno?
Estie
Serena Nordstrup
bruno Tonon wrote:
<snip>
> Here are some books and articles espousing some of the ideas of Werner
> Erhard.
<snip>
> Werner Erhard and his work and ideas are profiled, acknowledged, drawn
> upon in the following publications and selected letters.
I spy a potential contradiction between "espousing some of the ideas"
and "profiled, acknowledged, drawn upon"...
Do any of these works express uncritical adulation of the so-called
ideas of rosenbergism?
<snip>
> The Yankelovich (DYG, Inc.) Study: Analysis of The Landmark Forum and
> Its Benefits (study conducted in 1989).
You don't give a publication-date or a publisher or an URL for this
item, but something seems very wrong here.
The so-called ~landmark~ so-called ~forum~ dates back to 1991, before
which date the outfit Werner Erhard and Associates (WEA) marketed
something called ~the forum~. How could a study - even a study from
such a prestigious organisation as DYG Inc - of the so-called
~landmark~ so-called ~forum~ have taken place in 1989 ? Can one take a
~future~ ~possibility~ too far?
Slimily/slipperily
Serena
dunkirk
> A little "agreement party," how quaint. {:~D
> One "smart bomb" could take out the three stooges, huddling about with
> self-congratulatory back slaps. LOL!!!
LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!! Yes Horse's Ass, that's soooooooooooo funnnnnny!!
You should be doing stand-up!
And again with the "agreement party". Don't you ever get tired of
saying the same little sayings over and over and over and over again?
You are a pathetic excuse for a human being in so many ways.
Tex
you're a true humanitarian Dumkirk! {:~D
>