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JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu

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My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
by-product of technology.

By the way, as part of the assignment given to me by J a few weeks ago, I
lurked on the David Duchovny NG. I never lurked before, wanted to try it.
Man, is it hard not to reply! How do you people do it? I almost did a few
times w/o even thinking about it! Anyway, the same shit goes on there as here.
It's everywhere.

~Janice~

"This is insane. Why is this happening to me? What did I do? I'm
nobody...I'm gunna die."

revjack

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JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu explains it all:
:My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to

:learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
:him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
:by-product of technology.

Maybe rather a technological reflection of humanity instead.

--
rev...@radix.net
stochasticgnosisthroughablativedissonance

JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu

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Yes, that's better. Thanks, Rev.

Nena

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Hey, the Star Trek one does too.
-Nena -embarrassed, but is a fan of Deep Space Nine

JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu wrote:

> My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
> learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
> him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
> by-product of technology.
>

> By the way, as part of the assignment given to me by J a few weeks ago, I
> lurked on the David Duchovny NG. I never lurked before, wanted to try it.
> Man, is it hard not to reply! How do you people do it? I almost did a few
> times w/o even thinking about it! Anyway, the same shit goes on there as here.
> It's everywhere.
>

Thorne

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DS9 was the only one worth watching IMO. But it was on at some bizarro
time...like 1:30 am on Sundays or something, so I never got to see it.

Thorne

Thorne

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I always thought the Captain (who's name escapes me at the moment) was a
hottie.

Thorne


Nena wrote:
>
> I like DS9, you know people tell me that the show was too dark. I like it that way.
> Yeah, they got crazy hours. On the Paramount network it is in syndication and comes on
> at 10 am where I live.
> -Nena

Nena

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Nena

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Oh yes! Avery Brooks (Cpt. Benjamin Sisko) was so finem and Cirroc Lofton (Jake Sisko) was
not bad either.
-Nena

Thorne wrote:

> I always thought the Captain (who's name escapes me at the moment) was a
> hottie.
>
> Thorne
>
> Nena wrote:
> >

Trystilarn

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In article <39389FDA...@postoffice.swbell.net>, Nena
<let...@postoffice.swbell.net> writes:

>Hey, the Star Trek one does too.
>-Nena -embarrassed, but is a fan of Deep Space Nine
>

You mean Deep Space 90210

barbara@.bookpro.com

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On 3 Jun 2000 05:08:58 GMT, revjack <rev...@radix.net> wrote:

>JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu explains it all:
>:My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to


>:learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
>:him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
>:by-product of technology.
>

>Maybe rather a technological reflection of humanity instead.

That's what I think.

BW

barbara@.bookpro.com

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:15:30 -0500, Nena
<let...@postoffice.swbell.net> wrote:

>I like DS9, you know people tell me that the show was too dark. I like it that way.
>Yeah, they got crazy hours. On the Paramount network it is in syndication and comes on
>at 10 am where I live.

I don't know about dark. I just thought DS9 was pretty boring. I
liked some of the characters a good bit, but I didn't find the stories
interesting.

I had hopes for Voyager--getting back out in space where the
interesting stuff happens--but much as I really wanted to like it, I
couldn't make myself watch it after about halfway into the first
season.

I guess without Patrick Stewart, the Star Trek franchise has lost its
charm for me.

BW

teresa

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one word - worf
tess

Thorne wrote:

> I always thought the Captain (who's name escapes me at the moment) was a
> hottie.
>
> Thorne
>

> Nena wrote:
> >
> > I like DS9, you know people tell me that the show was too dark. I like it that way.
> > Yeah, they got crazy hours. On the Paramount network it is in syndication and comes on
> > at 10 am where I live.

> > -Nena
> >
> > Thorne wrote:
> >
> > > DS9 was the only one worth watching IMO. But it was on at some bizarro
> > > time...like 1:30 am on Sundays or something, so I never got to see it.
> > >
> > > Thorne
> > >
> > > Nena wrote:
> > > >

> > > > Hey, the Star Trek one does too.
> > > > -Nena -embarrassed, but is a fan of Deep Space Nine
> > > >

> > > > JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
> > > > > learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
> > > > > him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
> > > > > by-product of technology.
> > > > >

Trystilarn

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In article <eceijskm29qgpoml0...@news1.radix.net>,
barbara@.bookpro.com writes:

>I guess without Patrick Stewart, the Star Trek franchise has lost its
>charm for me.
>
>BW
>

I hear that! Absolutely my fav guy :)


Trystilarn

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>one word - worf
>tess

A total hottie. I couldn't belive it when I saw him in
an outer limits episode sans make-up. Daaaamn!
And the voice!

(borrowing an exclamation point for emphasis)

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On 03 Jun 2000 04:26:15 GMT, peache...@aol.com
(JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu) wrote:

>My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
>learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
>him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
>by-product of technology.

A by-product of anonymity, more likely. All flamers and trolls DO is
what any intelligent person would LIKE to do when faced with a room
full of go-along-to-get-along-idiots...wreak verbal havoc. Think of it
as a "training session." Flamers and trolls teach you to THINK before
you type. Otherwise, you risk having your ass burned publically. I
think it's a lovely system.

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vegetarian because I hate plants. -A. Whitney Brown
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ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 09:50:28 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>peache...@aol.com (JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu) wrote:
>
>>My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
>>learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
>>him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
>>by-product of technology.
>

>Same happens in IBM newsgroups. My PC is better than your PC stuff
>from Mac users.


>
>>By the way, as part of the assignment given to me by J a few weeks ago, I
>>lurked on the David Duchovny NG. I never lurked before, wanted to try it.
>>Man, is it hard not to reply! How do you people do it? I almost did a few
>>times w/o even thinking about it! Anyway, the same shit goes on there as here.
>> It's everywhere.
>

>Waitaminnit, the words penis and dick occurred far more times in afk-r
>than they do in afd-d and afleo-dicaprio. That's one difference. j/k.
>I need to take a look at alt.fan.jim-carrey. Jim is another person who
>has been snubbed by the Oscar people.
>
Snubbed? He's only been in a dozen movies or so. Comedians don't get
Oscars until they've been in a serious film, see: Robin Williams.
Considering the vast numbers of exceptional actors that are working
and the extremely limited numbers of Oscars given out each year, I
hardly think that Carey need consider himself snubbed. My favorite
director, Ridley Scott, has never been given an Oscar. Is Hollywood
snubbing him? I don't think so. He's still making movies and making
money. Talk to Cliff Roberts if you want to discuss Hollywood
snubbing, not Jim Carey.

teresa

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shit is universal
tess

JaniceKanikePikiPeachesJeanu wrote:

> My BF frequents the stock market/financial message boards. I was shocked to
> learn that even these boards have trolls and flame wars! (I had to explain to
> him what a troll and a flame war was!) Wow, I guess it's inevitable, huh? A
> by-product of technology.
>

> By the way, as part of the assignment given to me by J a few weeks ago, I
> lurked on the David Duchovny NG. I never lurked before, wanted to try it.
> Man, is it hard not to reply! How do you people do it? I almost did a few
> times w/o even thinking about it! Anyway, the same shit goes on there as here.
> It's everywhere.
>

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:30:00 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>ta...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
>
>>Snubbed? He's only been in a dozen movies or so. Comedians don't get
>>Oscars until they've been in a serious film, see: Robin Williams.
>>Considering the vast numbers of exceptional actors that are working
>>and the extremely limited numbers of Oscars given out each year, I
>>hardly think that Carey need consider himself snubbed. My favorite
>>director, Ridley Scott, has never been given an Oscar. Is Hollywood
>>snubbing him? I don't think so. He's still making movies and making
>>money. Talk to Cliff Roberts if you want to discuss Hollywood
>>snubbing, not Jim Carey.
>

>What can you tell us about Russell Crowe. Have you run into him? Would
>you like to? He's just about as A-List H'wood as a person can get.

Honestly, who cares? Russell Crowe is a good actor, but sorta ordinary
looking, doncha think? I wouldn't mind running into him if he were
entertaining and friendly, otherwise, I'd just as soon not bother. I
grew up with a mother who was an actress. I met plenty of famous
people when I was a little girl. They're just people. Some of them
were really nice, some were assholes. Being a celebrity doesn't make
anyone particularly special in my book. The most "star-struck" I've
ever been was in the presence of Jerry West, a Santa Fe artist that
you've probably never heard of. His work moved me so deeply that I
could not speak without choking up. No actor on earth will ever effect
me that way.

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 18:18:40 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>ta...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
>-snp-


>>Honestly, who cares? Russell Crowe is a good actor, but sorta ordinary
>>looking, doncha think?
>

>I haven't decided anything about his looks.


>
>>I wouldn't mind running into him if he were
>>entertaining and friendly, otherwise, I'd just as soon not bother.
>

>You'd limit yourself to only two criteria? Why?

I didn't set a limit on personal qualities. I just don't want to meet
someone who's boring and unfriendly.

>>I
>>grew up with a mother who was an actress. I met plenty of famous
>>people when I was a little girl. They're just people. Some of them
>>were really nice, some were assholes.
>

>Yep, got assholes rot cheer in afk-r.

>
>>Being a celebrity doesn't make
>>anyone particularly special in my book. The most "star-struck" I've
>>ever been was in the presence of Jerry West, a Santa Fe artist that
>>you've probably never heard of. His work moved me so deeply that I
>>could not speak without choking up. No actor on earth will ever effect
>>me that way.
>

>It's a good thing you can tell Jerry West as many times as you want
>to. Is his work online?

I don't know. I never looked. And I can't tell him anything right now.
I live about 12,000 miles away from Santa Fe.

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and death beautiful." - S. Dali
*****

teresa

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they also had a flashback episode with all of them w/o make
up, yes quite nice, but i prefer him in his make and
authoritian voice, uh, sharing too much again
tess

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:53:05 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:


>I know. the screen name shows it. So you left Oklahoma, your husband
>was a tester (IIRC) you went to his farewell luncheon or dinner.
>People lined up to shake his hand. You bawled all the way home. You've
>been to at least one bar in NZ, a bar in which there was a bride or a
>wedding celebration. What else has happened? BTW, what medium does
>Jerry West work in?

Not a bad recall. My husband was a test systems engineer, slightly
different but pretty darned close. Jerry works in oil. I honestly
don't know why anyone would work in anything else. Watercolor is a
pain in the ass and there are damned few famous watercolorists.
Acrylic just doesn't have the richness of colour or the time
element/elasticity of oil. Pastel/charcoal is the only other 2-D
medium I like.

Let's see...what else has happened? Well, my son has finished school
and is now working (yay!). I've got a full time job in addition to
artwork (got four little paintings in a show that runs through the
18th of this month) We've travelled all over the North Island, taking
pictures of giant things. Kiwis love giant things. The smaller the
town, the bigger the giant thing. After covering the entire North
Island, I have to say this is the cleanest country in the world. Even
in poorer rural areas, they may not be able to afford a new coat of
paint on the house, but the lawn is mowed and there's no trash
anywhere. No trash and no billboards...and you can drink right out of
the streams.

I DO hope that one of my fellow religionists has mentioned that The
Matrix is SubG philosophy made into film.

Nena

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Oh yes! Michael Dorn as Worf was hot. You know something else? I thought that Dr. Bashir on
DS9 was cute.
-Nena

teresa wrote:

> one word - worf
> tess
>

> Thorne wrote:
>
> > I always thought the Captain (who's name escapes me at the moment) was a
> > hottie.
> >
> > Thorne
> >
> > Nena wrote:
> > >
> > > I like DS9, you know people tell me that the show was too dark. I like it that way.
> > > Yeah, they got crazy hours. On the Paramount network it is in syndication and comes on
> > > at 10 am where I live.
> > > -Nena
> > >
> > > Thorne wrote:
> > >
> > > > DS9 was the only one worth watching IMO. But it was on at some bizarro
> > > > time...like 1:30 am on Sundays or something, so I never got to see it.
> > > >
> > > > Thorne
> > > >
> > > > Nena wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey, the Star Trek one does too.
> > > > > -Nena -embarrassed, but is a fan of Deep Space Nine
> > > > >

Nena

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Trystilarn wrote:

> >one word - worf
> >tess
>

> A total hottie. I couldn't belive it when I saw him in
> an outer limits episode sans make-up. Daaaamn!
> And the voice!
>
> (borrowing an exclamation point for emphasis)

I saw that too. Hell yeah!
-Nena


Nena

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barbara@.bookpro.com wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:15:30 -0500, Nena

> <let...@postoffice.swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >I like DS9, you know people tell me that the show was too dark. I like it that way.
> >Yeah, they got crazy hours. On the Paramount network it is in syndication and comes on
> >at 10 am where I live.
>

> I don't know about dark. I just thought DS9 was pretty boring. I
> liked some of the characters a good bit, but I didn't find the stories
> interesting.
>
> I had hopes for Voyager--getting back out in space where the
> interesting stuff happens--but much as I really wanted to like it, I
> couldn't make myself watch it after about halfway into the first
> season.
>

> I guess without Patrick Stewart, the Star Trek franchise has lost its
> charm for me.
>
> BW

I think the reason I liked DS9 so much was that it broke out of the mold of being on one
starship and hopping from planet to planet, and I liked how the story constantly flowed.
Voyager is frustrating the hell out of me! When will they get home?
-Nena


Nena

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Trystilarn wrote:

> >Hey, the Star Trek one does too.
> >-Nena -embarrassed, but is a fan of Deep Space Nine
> >
>

> You mean Deep Space 90210

No Tryst! Why? There does not seem to be any similarities between the
two.
-Nena


Trystilarn

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In article <3939F12D...@postoffice.swbell.net>, Nena
<let...@postoffice.swbell.net> writes:

Me: >> You mean Deep Space 90210


>
> No Tryst! Why? There does not seem to be any
> similarities between the two.

>-Nena
>

At the end, the soap opera factor took over.

barbara@.bookpro.com

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 00:56:41 -0500, Nena
<let...@postoffice.swbell.net> wrote:

>Oh yes! Michael Dorn as Worf was hot. You know something else? I thought that Dr. Bashir on
>DS9 was cute.

I think Michael Dorn is attractive but not as Worf.

BW

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:43:53 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>Jerry works in oil. I honestly
>>don't know why anyone would work in anything else.
>

>So what does he paint--portraits? landscapes? both?

More like...dreams. Form is form. Portraits are no different from
landscapes in that sense. Jerry paints people in dream settings,
sometimes nightmares.

>
>>I DO hope that one of my fellow religionists has mentioned that The
>>Matrix is SubG philosophy made into film.
>

>No, they haven't. C'mon, what kind of comments do you think Hec,
>Sterno, revjack are going to make?

Well I thought that AT THE MINIMUM one of them would have mentioned
that it's what we've been saying all along. That there is a conspiracy
to keep us from seeing what is real. We call it the CON, and tell
SubGenii to not allow THEM to pull the wool over your eyes, but
rather, to pull it over your OWN eyes instead. Aliens...keeping us
from seeing reality, keeping us under control. Oh yeah, it's as SubG
as it gets.

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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Agreed. Could he BE any stiffer, though? I'd like to see the smile on
his face when someone pulls that stick outta his ass.

barbara@.bookpro.com

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On 05 Jun 2000 02:06:08 GMT, rab...@aol.com (RABinME) wrote:

>Oh cool - now J and Tarla are going to go...this should be LOTS fo fun!!!
>Buckle your seatbelts, kids, it's going to be a bumpy ride!

It's actually more fun to see Tarla and Tryst go. J is outclassed by
either one of them.

BW

4 eureka7

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ta...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

> Flamers and trolls teach you to THINK before
> you type. Otherwise, you risk having your ass burned publically.

my ass has been fried, toasted and broiled.
(I love Keanu Reeves.)

~eL

RABinME

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ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:53:36 -0400, barbara@.bookpro.com wrote:

>On 05 Jun 2000 02:06:08 GMT, rab...@aol.com (RABinME) wrote:
>

>>Oh cool - now J and Tarla are going to go...this should be LOTS fo fun!!!
>>Buckle your seatbelts, kids, it's going to be a bumpy ride!
>

>It's actually more fun to see Tarla and Tryst go. J is outclassed by
>either one of them.
>

Which one is Tryst?

(they all look the same to me)
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jacket'? She sneered. I replied in a psychotic tone
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ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 23:51:04 -0500, 4 eureka7 <dott...@swbell.net>
wrote:

the question is...was it TASTY?

ta...@xtra.co.nz

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On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 07:46:23 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>ta...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:43:53 -0400, J <bgr...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Jerry works in oil. I honestly
>>>>don't know why anyone would work in anything else.
>>>
>>>So what does he paint--portraits? landscapes? both?
>>
>>More like...dreams.
>

>Ok, just so it's not another velvet Elvis j/k


>
>>Form is form. Portraits are no different from
>>landscapes in that sense.
>

>I know two landscapes I wish you could look at and use your art
>history expertise to evaluate.

I don't know much about Art History, actually. What I understand is
Painting. I know how to see what is right and wrong with a painting.
Composition, technique, that sort of thing.

> One is awful. It's a muzak equivalent
>of office furniture stuff-to-hang-on-walls. It's a pond-side close-up
>(I doubt you'd call it a landscape) with lily pads, tall grasses. The
>colors used are the colors of the office furniture-mauve, blue, pink,
>white.
>
>On the opposite wall is what looks like a water color or maybe pastel,
>a landscape of hills. There are maybe four-five major shapes in the
>picture-a coupla rolling hills, maybe a grove of trees just suggested
>with strokes, sky. The colors used are just suggestive pastels (for
>want of a better term). The landscape invites you into it, to
>disappear into it. Talk about opposite effects achieved by juxtaposing
>two landscapes--one is cheap yuck, the other may not be expensive, but
>it comes closer to 'art.'

J...you've actually pleased me! I hate it when people demean their own
ability to know good from bad in the art world. Most people, when
given a choice between two paintings, can tell you which is the
better. They can't always tell you WHY because they don't have the
technical knowlege, but if an artist is good...it shows.

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