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catherine yronwode

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Jan 28, 2004, 5:09:23 AM1/28/04
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> nagasiva:
> #> ...Kwan Yin pouring the Elixir Waters upon the
> #> faithful, or the ground, or the dragons playing
> #> beneath Her; there is Star imagery about the
> #> Sea Goddesses

Don't forget Tara, originally a sea/star goddess, identified with
Venus, the Mariner's Star. (And don't forget "Sea Star Orphan of
Chincoteague" by Marguerite Henry" :-) )

cat

silver skar

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Jan 28, 2004, 8:00:09 PM1/28/04
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xiwangmu wrote:
> A.'.A.'. <aethyr-a...@cox.SPAMnet>:
> # ...cheth's and vau's similar (?) sigillum in 231....
>
> do you know if he based those sigillae on someone
> else's work or if they were original to him?
good question. i do not know.
some of them are obviously fitting (beth, yod, kaph, lamed, mem, nun,
samekh, resh, shin) to regular taroistic imagery. some less so.

>
> nagasiva:
> #> ...Kwan Yin pouring the Elixir Waters upon the
> #> faithful, or the ground, or the dragons playing
> #> beneath Her; there is Star imagery about the

> #> Sea Goddesses ... PISCEAN-C-WITCH ('Sea Witch',
> #> a worshipper [priestess] of the Mother Mar).
> #
> # Kwan Yin seems an extraordinary star goddess,
> # like Nuit or Maya. Reminds me...
>
> I've been reading tales about Her (and about the
> goddess whom She was ostensibly imported in order
> to displace or with whom She was to compete:
> none other than Miao Shan the goddess incarnate.
>
> Kwan Yin
>
> has been constructed by various forces,
> spiritual and material, over centuries.
> ---------------------------------------
> "Kwan Yin: Myths and Prophecies of
> the Chinese Goddess of Compassion",
> by Palmer/Ramsay/Kwok; Thorssons,
> 1995; p. 65.
> =======================================
>
> out of Avalokitesvara, some say.
>
> I'm not sure She should be classed in the same
> league as star gods such as Shao, or Luc or Lao,
> but I'd love to hear of Her celestial lineage.
>
> mu
i am not the right person to hit up for this. maybe nagasiva?

siver skar

xiwangmu

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Jan 28, 2004, 9:51:09 PM1/28/04
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but I *am* nagasiva! ;>

333

silver skar <astrum-...@cox.SPAMnet>:

catherine yronwode

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Jan 31, 2004, 5:21:09 PM1/31/04
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xiwangmu wrote:

> > siver skar wrote:
> >
> > i am not the right person to hit up for this. maybe nagasiva?
>
> but I *am* nagasiva! ;>
>
> 333

I have met nagasiva and he does not look a bit like Xiwangmu, the
Queen Mother of the West, who is a female deity in the ancient
Chinese pantheon.
Xiwangmu is sometimes "depicted as a fearsome creature with a
leopard's tail and tiger's fangs, ruling over plague. But in
other legends, she is an elegant and charming person, fond of
singing ... pictured as a beautiful woman of 30." She may even
have been "the chieftain of a western tribe -- possibly a woman,
but more likely a man -- whose name, phonetically translated into
Chinese, suggested a queen mother." See much more at
http://www.chinatown-online.co.uk/pages/culture/legends/mu.html

Nagasiva, on the other hand, appears in the form of a six foot
four inch tall and extremely thin, straight-haired
Norwegian-Irish-English-American with Cherokee cheekbones and a
braided beard down to his belly button.

Cordially,

cat yronwode

MDHJWH

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Feb 1, 2004, 4:17:45 AM2/1/04
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catherine yronwode <c...@luckymojo.com> wrote in message news:<401C2C22...@luckymojo.com>...

>
> Nagasiva, on the other hand, appears in the form of a six foot
> four inch tall and extremely thin, straight-haired
> Norwegian-Irish-English-American with Cherokee cheekbones and a
> braided beard down to his belly button.
>

Stop trying to make us all jealous Cat!

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