Anna Kate got her degree
Henry Smiley
in the "Around Aspen" section there's a mention that Anna Kate got her
degree in English at Dartmouth.
Of course, we all know that Anna Kate is a special young woman to begin
with, but as an English teacher, I'm very proud she got her degree in that
field.
Henry
aerie
Ann
Henry Smiley wrote in message <7ntbuf$oo0$1...@news1.alltel.net>...
allth...@ftc-i.net
her degree was in English! Good for her!
Thank you for letting us know!
Dot
WParrish13
>How wonderful! Wouldn't John have been proud?!
I'm sure John is very proud! If you do a search from the home page of
www.dartmouth.edu using Anna Kate's name, you will find areas of her name
mentioned as the recipient of this year's "Season of '79 Award" given to the
woman with the most sportsmanship and dedication, she is also mentioned in "The
New Top 40" (reasons to visit 101 Gile). She is #20, listed as: "We make it a
point not to refer to Anna Kate as John Denver's kid." You may also read about
the successes of the rowing team she was a member of.
Wendy
Vet Trek
"Anna Kate Deutschendorf (Denver) earned a degree in English from Dartmouth
College in Hanover, N.H. She is the daughter of Ann Marie Denver of Aspen."
I thought it was interesting that they did not mention that John was her
father.
This is the link. It took a while for me to find it.
http://www.aspeninteractive.com/aspentimes/dir/99/July/week5/around.html
Val
http://members.aol.com/VetTrek/flyingforme.html
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About humans, our loves and our greeds
And this man when he sang even angry words
Had a soul that was deeply at peace
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allth...@ftc-i.net
being her father. Usually they would say something like "She is the daughter
of Ann Marie Denver, and the late, John Denver, of Aspen". Makes absolutely no
sense to me. If I were Anna, I do believe that I would be upset at this.
Thanks for the link!
Dot
LOU
allth...@ftc-i.net Re: Anna Kate got her degree
as being her father. Usually they would say something like "She is the
daughter of Ann Marie Denver, and the late, John Denver, of Aspen".
Makes absolutely no sense to me. If I were Anna, I do believe that I
would be upset at this.
Thanks for the link!
Dot
Dot, I too am confused, that they did not even mention that John Denver
was her father.....Hmmmmmmm just one more slight to John, I sure do not
care for the people of Aspen, I sure hope that Anna Kate will ask them
to run that again, and include John's name as her father,
after all he loved her so much, and if not for his money and support she
would not have been able to go there!!!!! JMHO
Lou
Noopie
are living there when they write up the society news. Maybe they never
mention the deceased parent, or the parent that is living in another
location. Just a thought.
Kathy
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DresdenQT
Where did four years go?
Carolyn
Explorerdb
another
location. >>
Hi Kathy,
If that is the custom in Aspen...then Aspen is not the town I thought it was!!
I find this "custom" to be quite disrespectful - no matter who the deceased
parent was!!! He/She (no matter where) is still her parent...
Diane
FoxfirePat
wedding announcements) and that is how it was worded?
pat
Christine Moon
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
moon...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Friends of John Denver" http://surf.to/friends.of.john.denver
FoxfirePat wrote in message
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LOU
Could it be that news like this is submitted by the family (like
engagement or wedding announcements) and that is how it was worded? pat
Lou wrote:
I wondered about that too, and it very well could be that Annie sent
that in, and they worded it exactly like she wrote it!!!!!!!!!!! JMHO
Lou
aerie
LOU wrote in message <28374-37...@newsd-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
Lou wrote:
Well, when Anna Kate was accepted into Dartmouth four years ago, the
announcement in the Aspen Times was pretty similar -- that she was Annie
Denver's daughter. No mention of JD. Considering that John was alive then,
I thought that was odd back then. So no big surprise that they fail to
mention that she's John's daughter now!
Ann
allth...@ftc-i.net
there was no mention of him being her dad when she was accpted into Darmouth? I
first thought when I read your post, that maybe for security reasons they would
not want that known, but that doesn't make any sense either. Whether she is
listed as Anna Kate Deutschendorf, or Anna Kate Denver, most would know whose
daughter was. Just saying she is the daughter of, Annie Denver, would be enough
for all the wacko's to know whose daughter she was anyway.
It could be that the family had it worded that way, or that the Aspen Times is a
very biased newspaper, and talks about her being Annie Denver's daughter, due to
the fact, that Annie lives there and is a pretty popular person in that area.
Unfortunately, in the last years of John's life, he didn't fall into that
category. No reflection on him, but rather more on possibly that area. All
this is, of course, just supposition on my part! Who knows!
Dot
Siri Wheeler
at the college. Perhaps they use the name given as the "home address"?
When I graduated from college the announcement showed up in the paper
without anyone in my family having submitted anything.
-Siri
Flyushome
course, I hope I'm never in competition with her. She does, indeed, seems to
be a very special young woman. Has anyone heard what she plans to do now, or
what Zak is doing?
Peace,
Pat
scotts
person putting the ad in the news. JMHO
Geri
Noopie wrote:
>
> Maybe the local custom in Aspen is to only mention those individuals that
> are living there when they write up the society news. Maybe they never
> mention the deceased parent, or the parent that is living in another
No 8 of 9
>father.
>
I noticed that too. I wonder why they didn't mention John. It kind of made me
a little sad.
Cindy
aerie
alive (when they announced that she'd been accepted at Dartmouth), so this
doesn't come as all that much of a surprise.
Ann
No 8 of 9 wrote in message <19990801025211...@ng-bg1.aol.com>...
LOU
anyway......
When I was in Aspen last Oct., I got the definite feeling that everyone
there thought that Annie was this little "angel", and that John was the
"big bad wolf"...... this one guy in a store, said that John went down
hill after Annie left him!! after all that he did for Aspen, they just
over looked him, maybe because he wasn't there much, and Annie was, so
she got all the credit for all the good things that he did????? who
knows. JMHO
Lou
Ladron23
a topic of conversation to you, I feel that it is
nice it was mentioned at all. However, for some of you, I can suggest a
possible answer----at the bottom of Aspen Times, there is a place to click on
for comments on stories----you might e-mail them and ask
them why they didn't mention John's name, or find out what their policy is,
instead of
wondering or speculating. Maybe you will get a reply back with the correct
information or what their policy is on these matters. After all, they do know
why they publish what they do publish.
Peace,
Wendy Nelson
Explorerdb
stories----you might e-mail them and ask
them why they didn't mention John's name, >>
Hi Wendy,
When this information was first posted here - I did exactly that!! I am a bit
outraged and VERY disappointed about all the speculation over this - John
Denver was an important person especially to Aspen, Colorado, and to think they
would slight him on purpose for some unknown reason bothers me greatly!! It
will bother me more if it is discovered that this was done on purpose - whether
by the paper itself or by the family.
I politely asked (via e-mail) them why John's name was omitted from the
article. I also mentioned that MANY people have voiced this concern. I still
have not received a response. I wonder why????
Peace,
Diane
allth...@ftc-i.net
Dot
Explorerdb
Just to let you know...I still have received NOT ONE WORD from the Aspen Times
regarding leaving John's name out of the article about Anna Kate's graduation.
Maybe they would listen if more people wrote to them. You can e-mail them at
www.aspentimes.com (on left side of page there is a menu for e-mail).
If nothing else, we can make a statement to show support for John...
Thanks,
Diane/NY
allth...@ftc-i.net
I have not heard anything either! Maybe sometime this week we will though. It might help
if more did e-mail them. Sure would like to know the answer to this!
Dot
Noopie
Anna Kate is a private citizen, not a celebrity. Perhaps we should let this
drop. I'm sure there is a very good reason, but is it really any of our
business?
Kathy
Explorerdb wrote in message
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Explorerdb
drop. I'm sure there is a very good reason, but is it really any of our
business?>>
I see your point, Kathy. Maybe you are right! It is just that I have been
hearing some really disturbing news from friends and acquaintances of mine who
recently visited Colorado...and I am somewhat shocked and sad that John was not
as accepted by the Colorado "community" the way I had always thought he was!!
It saddens me because, as an "eastern girl", it was John who brought about my
attention and eventual love of our American West - especially Colorado. My
library at home is filled with books and artwork of the West...all inspired by
John.
I am disappointed that these friends (and some others who posted here on this
ng) implied that John's reputation was tarnished in Colorado for some reason.
I really cannot believe or understand that!! Or, I should I say, I DO NOT WANT
to believe that!!
I reach out to all my JD family and friends in Colorado...what is the
truth...what do the citizens of Colorado think about John???
I hope you tell me that what I am hearing is just one side of a long
story....HELP!!
Peace and friendship,
Diane/NY
Noopie
held in high esteem by the folks of Aspen. That bothers me a bit too.
When you think of Aspen these days, what comes to mind? When you think of
the celebrities that make their homes there, the ones the spend the season
there, the visitors, etc., do they say "John Denver" to you? Or do they
have a public persona (I won't even begin to say that I may know what they
are like in private) that reflects glamour, society, and excessive abusives
(you can fill in the blanks).
Perhaps the folks that make Aspen their playground do not have the same
public ideals/goals that John had. Perhaps that caused some grief and hard
feelings.
This is definitely a JD related topic. I just think we should leave the
kids out of it, for their sake and for respect for their privacy.
Kathy
Explorerdb wrote in message
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Explorerdb
out of it, for their sake and for respect for their privacy.>>
I suppose I will have to agree with you, Kathy. Having a dad who lived a
"public" life for a time, I should have been more sensitive. Kids do suffer at
times, at the expense of their parents' public life...in my own experience, it
was all done in the name of "politics"... and of course, that is no excuse.
I'd still like to hear feedback about the "JD issue", however. My friends did
not encounter the "celebrities and people of public persona" in Colorado...they
met regular, ordinary people like the rest of us and frequented regular,
ordinary places. So...what's the story??
Peace,
Diane
CKenney194
>truth...what do the citizens of Colorado think about John
Hi Diane,
Back when we were all trying to put the October '98 gathering together I posted
a lenghty diatribe about Aspen and the people there. I used to go there quite a
bit and John was not treated well at all. If anyone is interested in seeing
this letter, e-mail me and I will send it. Note: I was quite angry at the time.
It is all still true but my anger was very apparent in the letter.
Peace,
Carole
Explorerdb
this letter, e-mail me and I will send it. >>
Hi Carole,
I would love to read your letter. I am bewildered about this entire issue.
John did so much for Aspen...what is their problem??
Thanks for responding,
Peace,
Diane
Flyushome
Thanks for the information!
Peace,
Pat
Flyushome
Un-
less they could write something negative about John, the Aspen press preferred
to ignore him. The thought that his daughter was "brilliant," to quote John,
was probably more than they could deal with.
Peace?
Pat
Flyushome
erroneous item about Anna Kate's graduation? If it was an oversight, it should
certainly have been caught by now. If was deliberate, that's unthinkable and
one of the worst examples of irresponsible journalism I've ever seen. What an
insult to the family--not just to John.
Peace for John,
Pat
OTTER
Apparently, it's not the first time JD's name has been left out of such
announcements. Isn't that just a little too coincidental? Perhaps the
paper printed it as it received it. Hmmmmmm. Food for thought. Gloria
--
"The moment at hand is the only thing we really own." John Denver
Flyushome
rela-
tions office. I spent many a Monday morn-
ing setting up those little stories. And, NEVER, to my knowledge, did we fail
to in-
clude all pertinent family members, living or not. That has nothing to do with
the area--as someone suggested--it is stand-
ard newspaper format. For example, when my daughter got married, the article,
sent in by her, stated her husband is the son of Dr. and Mrs.......... and of
the late.........
That's how Anna Kate's graduation story should have been published. From what
I've been able to learn about the Aspen papers, they did this deliberately.
Good riddance, John, they think. I'm sorry, but have you read some of the
things they've written about him?
This isnt' peaceful,
Pat
CKenney194
The author of that column is Mary Eschbaugh Hayes. She is the "society" writer
for the paper. Trust me, the content of that column is ALL hers and I have no
doubt that the slight to John was intentional. JMHO
Peace,
Carole
Abatroll
Don't postulate. Find out why before coming up with answers.
One man's troll is another man's truth.
Explorerdb
that. Don't postulate. Find out why before coming up with answers.>>
Good valid point!! However, despite many letters sent to the Aspen Times
inquiring about this, THEY HAVE REFUSED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
From everything I was able to ascertain about such situations, omitting John
from this kind of article seems to be an "intentional" act. Now the question
remains, was it the intention of the family or the paper???
Either way, I have to defer to someone who posted earlier when it was said
that maybe we should just drop it - just out of respect to Anna Kate. I am
sure she is aware of the article. If she (or the rest of the family) wanted
it corrected, I feel confident that she would make sure it was done.
Still hurts, though....
Peace,
Diane/NY
Christine Moon
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
moon...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Friends of John Denver" http://surf.to/friends.of.john.denver
Flyushome wrote in message <19990811223334...@ng-xc1.aol.com>...
>That kind of information is usually sent to newspapers by the college's
public
>rela-
>tions office. I spent many a Monday morn-
>ing setting up those little stories. And, NEVER, to my knowledge, did we
fail
>to in-
>clude all pertinent family members, living or not. That has nothing to do
with
>the area--as someone suggested--it is stand-
>ard newspaper format. For example, when my daughter got married, the
article,
>sent in by her, stated her husband is the son of Dr. and Mrs.......... and
of
>the late.........
>
>That's how Anna Kate's graduation story should have been published. From
what
Flyushome
believe. it's just too typical of the Aspen press to dis
John. It's obviously not the first time; let's make sure it's the last time.
Peace for John,
Pat
Robert Reck
on a lesser charge? If they were terribly silly, I think the judge would
have found a way to overrule. Tell me, were you in the courtroom for the
trial? Have you read the transcripts?
Abatroll <abat...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990814222459...@ng-fy1.aol.com...
> >That's exactly what they're doing, Christine. What about all the good he
did
> >there? Is that to be negated by one mis-
> >take? When one thinks of what goes on there--I've only heard, never
> >experienced it--John was pretty easy to take!
> >
> >Peace?
> >Pat
>
> So perhaps if Denver had been more open about his alcohol problem and not
tie
> up the courts with silly defenses, he would have been looked upon in a
better
> light? Many I am sure in the Aspen or Colorado area felt it was just
another
> rich celebrity getting away with something you and I could not.
Flyushome
Abatroll
So perhaps if Denver had been more open about his alcohol problem and not tie
Abatroll
>Silly defenses? So silly that the jurors on the case could not even decide
>on a lesser charge? If they were terribly silly, I think the judge would
>have found a way to overrule. Tell me, were you in the courtroom for the
>trial? Have you read the transcripts?
>
Again, the whitewash defense of "where you there" as I mentioned in a previous
post.
Was I there and did I read the transcripts. If I told you yes I read the
transcripts, you wouldn't believe me.
Do you have to read the transcripts to know OJ was guilty but that a jury let
him off? Juries, being people, are not perfect. Neither was John, you or I.
It's this defense of John Denver as one who "saintly" (my wording) that
probably ticked off Aspenites in the first place.
Robert Reck
TV, I completely ignored it.
You yourself chided some people on this newsgroup for conjecturing about
certain aspects of JD's life. Well, unless you heard all the testimony in
John Denver's trial, I believe you are conjecturing as to his guilt or
innocence. I'm always amazed at those who can convict based on their own
"opinions".
Believe me, if it was you on trial in any courtroom, you would hope to have
jurors who would make decisions based on evidence rather than conjecture.
Abatroll <abat...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Explorerdb
Hey, I thought "postulating" was off limits! Unless we have a representative
from this particular "faction" in Aspen, let's not draw any conclusions about
what "probably ticked off Aspenites".
I think at this point, the resolution of this issue remains in the minds and
hearts of those interested enough to draw their own conclusions about it. Of
course, those who love John (including me) accept him...the whole person...and
we appreciate all the wonderful music he made that made our lives more
enjoyable and his continuing contributions to the betterment of our planet.
Peace,
Diane/NY
Explorerdb
hope to have jurors who would make decisions based on evidence rather than
conjecture.
Well, that's the truth, plain and simple. ALL AMERICANS ARE INNOCENT UNTIL
PROVEN GUILTY - and "opinion" is not "proof" in this country.
Diane/NY
Christine Moon
across for months - good luck Diane!
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
moon...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Friends of John Denver" http://surf.to/friends.of.john.denver
Explorerdb wrote in message
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jesse windsong
>across for months - good luck Diane!
LOL!!! Amazing how someone from another country can grasp the concept that a
lot of the persons from my own country cannot...that the Constitution of the
United States proclaims that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. Good
for you, Christine!!!
<sigh> think we'll all get it eventually?
valerie r. williams
aka, jesse...@aol.com
"The wind is a Goddess, that first learned to fly."
--John Denver, 'Windsong'--
Explorerdb
United States proclaims that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. Good
for you, Christine!!!
<sigh> think we'll all get it eventually?
valerie>>
Although I have been called an optimist, Val, I have my doubts!!!!!!!!
Peace,
Diane/NY
jesse windsong
>
>Peace,
>Diane/NY
Diane, welcome to the ranks of the pragmatists.
but, I'm working on regaining my optimism...AND my liberalism.
Christine Moon
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
moon...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Friends of John Denver" http://surf.to/friends.of.john.denver
jesse windsong wrote in message
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>>So, John is innocent. Case closed. I have been trying to get that point
>>across for months - good luck Diane!
>
>LOL!!! Amazing how someone from another country can grasp the concept that
a
>lot of the persons from my own country cannot...that the Constitution of
the
>United States proclaims that a person is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
Good
>for you, Christine!!!
>
><sigh> think we'll all get it eventually?
>
>
Flyushome
much? when I wrote to ask him why John's name was left off Anna Kate's an-
nouncement, he e-mailed me the most vicious letter I've ever received--and so
ri-
diculous, as well. Is this the same guy who wrote "The Private Gifts of a
Public Man"? Who held a gun to his head to make him write that? I must have
missed something somewhere. He's accusing John of buying off practically
everybody in town.
Peace?
Pat
Christine Moon
did not have a thyroid disorder (is he a doctor, too?), thereby accusing him
of perjury.
I, too, wondered who held a gun to his head to make him write "The Private
Gifts of a Public Man".
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
moon...@netcomuk.co.uk
"Friends of John Denver"
Flyushome wrote in message <19990829154940...@ng-ce1.aol.com>...
Pamela Beasley
I thought the same thing when I read it. I wrote him letter then
asking him where the kind words had been the previous summer. It was a
surprise to see that my letter was actually published.
Pam