John Denver's mother was at the sevices!
Don't believe it.
Nothing of the sort ever happened on the Tonight Show.
Where and when is this concert supposed to have been?
The only reason that might make John want to dismiss anyone from his
audience would be if they were disrupting the show.
joan and chuck wrote:
> This is so strange. I just heard this story TODAY, Wed. Oct. 22,, from
> my manicure lady who is a witness. i said that I had been to 20
> concerts in the past 24 years and had NEVER heard John refer to anyone
> in the audience except for his family. I was appalled at the story and
> it was painful...she stopped listening to JD years ago, about 8-9 she
> said, because of this story. She thought the concert was PERHAPs in
> Denver but I have been to all of them since 1974 in Denver area. I find
> this hard to believe, but I too, would like some more info. I was just
> about to write something myself when I saw this posting. Let's find the
> facts and wrap up the rumors and throw them out. Thanks
John sang Christmas Carols, did two Christmas Albums, and two or more Christmas
specials on tv.
spin.
>This sounds just like an urban legend--you know, where someone's best
>friend's cousin's mother really did have her ankles cut by a guy hiding
>under her car so he could rob/kidnap/rape her. These stories get
>started and people are so gullible.
I hadn't thought about the urban legend possibility.
>This is so strange. I just heard this story TODAY, Wed. Oct. 22,, from
>my manicure lady who is a witness. i said that I had been to 20
>concerts in the past 24 years and had NEVER heard John refer to anyone
>in the audience except for his family. I was appalled at the story and
>it was painful...she stopped listening to JD years ago, about 8-9 she
>said, because of this story. She thought the concert was PERHAPs in
>Denver but I have been to all of them since 1974 in Denver area. I find
>this hard to believe, but I too, would like some more info. I was just
>about to write something myself when I saw this posting. Let's find the
>facts and wrap up the rumors and throw them out. Thanks.
Joan, if you have attended **20** concerts in **24** years in the Denver area,
and we all know he made appearances about once a year...right? Then you'd
think you would have heard him make that "alleged" remark one of those times!
I too would like to find the facts, at least so that I can set the record
straight at work... with the facts, and not my own logic. It is a fact that
the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society makes statements about different
things that its members take as fact without questioning the Body of the
validity of the statement. For some reason, it's possible that the Society had
some vendetta against John for reasons that are known only to them, and
decided to make a false accusation about John in concert and on Johnny Carson,
passed it on to their members who took it as fact, rather than asking "is it
true?" My question is, did Johnny celebrate or acknowledge Christmas and
Thanksgiving? If so, then he's not a Witness. He DID do a New Year's bashes on
his show, and I don't believe the Society celebrates New Year's either. They
have also said that the reruns of Carson have actually shown this incident!
Thanks to any and all who have more info than I do. By the way, I want you all
to know that this would have absolutely no effect in how I feel about John and
his music. This is just for my own curiosity, and for any future "indictments."
John
I have found your comments very interesting. I too have wondered if John Denver
harbored animosity toward Jehovah's Witnesses. As I and my wife are Jehovah's
Witnesses and my wife has been an avid fan for over a quarter century, it peaked my
interest. When I met my future wife, I sometime later asked if I could get to know
her better. She presented a cassette tape to me and said, 'If you want to know who
I am, listen to this tape. Then you will know who I am'.
I listened that night to the tape and was touched by sincere and passionate music
about love, life, mountains, family, etc. I actually listened to that tape almost
100 times and as I got to know my wife, was touched by her sensitive and
compassionate heart
After we got married, my wife shared with me all of John Denver's music and his
music became a part of our life together. I actually have gone to 9 JD concerts and
have enjoyed them tremendously. At the time of John's death, my wife had been to 19
concerts.
We heard many stories about John despising JWs and asking them to vacate performance
facilities. Most of the stories were from JWs who had not gone to JD's concerts or
by some aunt's cousin, uncle's friends, neighbor who had gone to a concert, you get
the picture... It bewildered me because I found nowhere in his music nor his
concerts any evidence of even a hint of animosity toward JWs. Same with my wife.
We had also heard that Johnny Carson asked JD to leave the set of "The Tonight Show"
after JD's negative remarks toward JWs. We heard that Johnny said that he had a
nephew who served at NY Bethel (the world headquarters of JWs). We have never seen
any show indicating the above.
Throughout the years we have heard many 'rumors' regarding John Denver and his
dislike of JW's (someone once told us that he hated JW's because it caused the
breakup of his marriage to Annie as she was apparently studying) also we were told
that the sign outside of his home in the ritzy section known as "Starwood" states:
"You are not welcome here. Please leave" and that he specifically put that sign up
for JW's... who knows, if John Denver really hated JW's he certainly wasn't the
first; nor the last. We just always thought the stories were funny and amusing
because most JW's stopped listening to his music. Not us. We still love his music
and always will.
And then a very good friend told us that JD did not dislike JWs. He said that after
a JW district convention in Denver, CO, a JD concert was scheduled for that
evening. The concert had nothing to do with the convention earlier that day. As
the stage crew began to setup things, curious Jehovah's Witnesses lingered after the
convention (I too would linger and investigate whether I could purchase tickets).
Apparently JD noticed the problem of having people without tickets not leaving the
arena and on mike, asked 'all Jehovah's Witnesses to vacate their seats and leave
the facility'. Something to the effect of, 'Are there any JWs in the audience?
Would you please stand? Now would you please leave?'
In a gregarious organization, I can easily see how this statement by JD could being
misconstrued. I can also understand why those who were sitting down just before the
concert was beginning would share the exact facts. It goes to show you that telling
stories that are rumored or 2nd- or 3rd-hand about anything is simply wrong and
misleading.
Perhaps, after all, this is much ado about nothing.
Paris & Eve
12.5 years together and counting...
psa...@netgate.net
aspe...@netgate.net
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I remember reading about that sign years ago. It was during the height of his
popularity and was put up becuase JD wanted privacy.
"If I should live forever
and all my dreams come true
My memories of love will be of you"
Rest in peace John
I knew that those foul, insipid JW's would do something crass, but
nothing so foul as killing JD because he didn't perfofrm? THEY ARE
EVIL, MAN! Fucking JWs! I can't stand religious intolerance, I hope
they fucking die!