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OTTER

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Jul 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/23/00
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Just have to add my two cents. It's 90 degrees *in the shade* in Jackson
Hole at 6:45pm. Now, anyone who's ever been here knows that is extremely
unusual for here. We're sweltering with no AC but gladly willing to put
up with it because we at least have shade! Not like some Oklahoma and
Texas folks. (Not picking on Mary in Norman. Norman has more trees than
all the rest of Oklahoma put together, I think! All planted, BTW, not
naturally occurring.)

Pant, pant. Gloria

--
"The moment at hand is the only thing we really own." John Denver

Gwen

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Jul 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/24/00
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>We're sweltering with no AC but gladly willing to put

Oh Gloria, that is really miserable. Can't imagine how hard that is. Does it
cool down at night???

That's one of the problems here in Fl. Our trees are mostly all palm trees.
They just provide bugs not shade ((:

Wish I could send some of my air conditioning up to ya. I wish I had somebody
to share my next power bill with too (just kidding, I wouldn't really make
you pay)

Don't cook meals now just go after take out till your weather cools down.
That's sorta fun huh????

Take Care,
Gwen

"And if peace is what we pray for
and peace is what we give
then peace will be the way we are
and peace the way we live"

The Peace Poem
Words by John Denver
from It's About Time (1983)


LiteofVega

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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>From: ott...@onewest.net (OTTER)

>(Not picking on Mary in Norman. Norman has more trees than
>all the rest of Oklahoma put together, I think! All planted, BTW, not
>naturally occurring.)

Norman does have some trees (I have only now 3 small fruit trees - still trying
to make that 4th peach tree survive that lightning strike - left in the far end
of my backyard though). The area that has a lot of trees is the eastern side
of Oklahoma, especially in the Ouachita area. Beautiful hills and lots of
trees there! John's mother's hometown of Tulsa has quite a lot of trees too.
This central part of Oklahoma, besides being geographically in the center of
the state, is pretty much in the middle in terms of landform. East side of
Oklahoma - lots of trees and hills. Central part of the state - a few trees
and pretty well flat. The west part of the state (where John spent many
summers) is VERY flat and more or less tree-less.


Peace,

Mary in Oklahoma

"We could learn a lot from crayons. Some are sharp, some are pretty, some are
dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to
learn to live in the same box." --Anonymous

OTTER

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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> Oh Gloria, that is really miserable. Can't imagine how hard that is. Does it
> cool down at night???

YES, thank goodness. That's the beauty of living in the mountains!

>
> That's one of the problems here in Fl. Our trees are mostly all palm trees.
> They just provide bugs not shade ((:

We used to live in Naples, Fl. so you have my sympathies! Palmetto bugs. Eeek!



> Don't cook meals now just go after take out till your weather cools down.
> That's sorta fun huh????

When the grandchildren were here they wanted biscuits and gravy for
breakfast and spagetti for dinner and lasagna another night. Pant, pant.
Even though it was a tad warm in the kitchen, we ate on the screened porch
and it was quite pleasant. Fortunately, we do get a cool breeze from time
to time even on the hottest days.

Try and stay cool down there! Gloria

OTTER

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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>
> Gloria, what a beautiful message! A friend of mine from Chicago was out here
> in Denver this past weekend. He grew up in North Carolina, and commented on
> the heat here. It's been in the 90s for over a month now, and when I
asked him
> how people in the South cope with such heat in the summer with all the
> humidity, he said, "In the south, you spend a lot of time out on the porch in
> the summer. You eat dinner out there, and the porch is always screened
to keep
> the bugs out."

Well, Basil, I'm from Georgia originally and can't imagine building a
house without a screened porch! At my Grandmother's old house (built
right after the Civil War) the entire side of the house had a screened
porch with lots of rattan furniture, including several chaise lounges.
When it was unbearably hot in the house at night, you could sleep outside
on the porch. Ah, what lovely memories that just conjured up---sleeping
with the chirrup of crickets in the background. (The house was on 75 acres
so no traffic noise at all and no neighbors to peek at us running around
in our nightgowns!)

Best, Gloria

Laurabird1

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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Hi there

A couple of days ago it was 115 in the shade with a 120 degree heat factor.
But we live here in the desert. Just a little early for the humidity. Awful
august is the time for that.

Laura

Basil72

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>When the grandchildren were here they wanted biscuits and gravy for
>breakfast and spagetti for dinner and lasagna another night. Pant, pant.
>Even though it was a tad warm in the kitchen, we ate on the screened porch
>and it was quite pleasant. Fortunately, we do get a cool breeze from time
>to time even on the hottest days.
>
>Try and stay cool down there! Gloria
>
>--

Gloria, what a beautiful message! A friend of mine from Chicago was out here
in Denver this past weekend. He grew up in North Carolina, and commented on
the heat here. It's been in the 90s for over a month now, and when I asked him
how people in the South cope with such heat in the summer with all the
humidity, he said, "In the south, you spend a lot of time out on the porch in
the summer. You eat dinner out there, and the porch is always screened to keep
the bugs out."

Basil

Laura

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Jul 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/27/00
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Well Laura,
You made THIS Laura feel much cooler..
I'm on the prairie with 103 today.
Laura

Itamazesme

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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Well....its been 100 here and last night my son and I were laying in the
hammock...its where we have our wonderful heart to hearts........well low and
behold I woke up in the morning to chirping birds and quarreling squirels in
the tree directly above.. My cat Leo was laying with me and he was really
enjoying the squirels. My son came out and said he had gone to bed and left me
out there to relate to nature (which he knows I love)............and what a
sweet sweet morning I had. I m goin out there again tonight. Maybe my
hummers will drop ny to say hi!!
Hollie Darlin

Diamondsnstones

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In article <20000727004826...@ng-fp1.aol.com>, bas...@aol.com
(Basil72) writes:

>
>Gloria, what a beautiful message! A friend of mine from Chicago was out here
>in Denver this past weekend. He grew up in North Carolina, and commented on
>the heat here. It's been in the 90s for over a month now, and when I asked
>him
>how people in the South cope with such heat in the summer with all the
>humidity, he said, "In the south, you spend a lot of time out on the porch in
>the summer. You eat dinner out there, and the porch is always screened to
>keep
>the bugs out."
>
>Basil
>

Many houses here in the old south have sleeping porches and summer kitchens as
well and as a child growing up in West Tenn, we learned that eating potato
salad and cold fried chicken and lemonade was the best of all possible meals.
Sue

Barbara Stevens

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I guess we just are never happy with our weather. I am FREEZING this
morning! Connecticut has set an all time high July daily temp for the last
2 days--66!!! It has rained for 2 plus days--over 3 inches in parts of the
state. I am sitting here with the windows wide open--but wearing a flannel
bathrobe and furry slippers!!! Yesterday, a section of Rt 84 here in East
Hartford, collapsed into a huge pothole, leaving a 4 inch curb effect.
Twenty seven cars hit it at 60 plus mph, and the air bags went off and the
tires blew. They said the cars were pulled over along an almost 1 mile
section of road, all awaiting wreckers!! I guess it was quite a scene, but,
thank God, no one was hurt apparently!

In the scope of things, after hearing about all the fires and the people
suffering so much from the extreme and prolonged heat, I guess we can't
complain too much--but a peak at the sun would be nice! Christine, have you
been sending your weather here?

Barb

allth...@ftc-i.net

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Jul 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/28/00
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We love our screened in porch. It is not huge, but we sure could sleep out there
if we had to. We have eaten many meals out there and I love to have my coffee out
there first thing in the morning! Boy, Sue, I am hungry after you mentioning that
potato salad, cold fried chicken and lemonade! Yummmy!

Best,
Dot

OTTER

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It has rained here in Jackson Hole and cooled things down a bit! Hooray!
It feels downright chilly in the mid-70's!

Christine Moon

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I wouldn't wish this weather on anyone! Apparently it's been the dullest
July on record. And 66 beats last weekend here - just about reached 15
Celsius, which I think is around 59 Fahrenheit. It's often that high in
December - seems we just don't have seasons anymore.

--
Peace, in John's memory,
Christine
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Marion Moore

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And we have just had a wonderful thunder-storm here in my little part of
Scotland.
Hubby and I are of to York tomorrow along with my best friend and her
husband. *PLEASE* let August be better than July. Can't be much worse....can
it?

Marion
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Cheri057

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>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: ott...@onewest.net (OTTER)
>Date: Thu, Jul 27, 2000 01:43 EDT

<snip>

> Ah, what lovely memories that just conjured up---sleeping

>with the chirrup of crickets in the background. (The house was on 75 acres
>so no traffic noise at all and no neighbors to peek at us running around
>in our nightgowns!)

Gloria....

I just had to respond to your bringing up the "chirrup of crickets".

I grew up where I'm still residing...and summertimes were filled with
lightening bugs, faces sticky with wild blackberries, and CRICKETS. I'm so
happy that my own son (now 23) enjoyed a lot of that himself.....but I've
noticed (and have mentioned to quite a few people) that the crickets are
silent.

Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country" again...I can't tell
you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that would come
over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no longer
here.

Sad, isn't it?

Cheri

Itamazesme

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Wow..I must be lucky......I live in the middle of huge LA and we have so many
crickets I can bearly hear at night. Sometimes they get inside and oh my gosh
they are so loud. We have to hunt for them to get them back outside. Little
devils.
Hollie darlin

Penny G

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We have a lot here in Tucson, too. The ones back east were black/dark brown, but
the ones here are a kind of medium brown. I thought they looked really weird! I
love to hear them outside - but not in the house!

Penny G

OTTER

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>
>
> > Ah, what lovely memories that just conjured up---sleeping
> >with the chirrup of crickets in the background. (The house was on 75 acres
> >so no traffic noise at all and no neighbors to peek at us running around
> >in our nightgowns!)
>
> Gloria....
>
> I just had to respond to your bringing up the "chirrup of crickets".
>
> I grew up where I'm still residing...and summertimes were filled with
> lightening bugs,

Lightening bugs??? Cheri, you *must* have southern heritage! Everyone
outside the south calls them "fireflies". I had never heard them called
that until I moved away from Georgia! We always loved to catch
"lightening bugs" and put them in a jar (which we kids thought was way
kewl to make our own lanterns)!

> faces sticky with wild blackberries,

Ah, yes! We had blackberry bushes just down the lane at Grandmother's
house and we'd pick them and she'd make blackberry cobbler. I am
*drooling* at the thought!

and CRICKETS. I'm so
> happy that my own son (now 23) enjoyed a lot of that himself.....but I've
> noticed (and have mentioned to quite a few people) that the crickets are
> silent.
>

> Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country" again...I
can't tell
> you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that
would come
> over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no longer
> here.
>

> Sad, isn't it?

It truly is. Isn't it a wonder that the smallest, seemingly unimportant
things from our childhoods hold so much meaning for us today? Is it
because they're gone or because we're nostalgic for those simpler, sweeter
days? My daughter even said once that she wished she had been born in the
fifties because it was a simpler, more innocent time. I feel a great
sadness for most of today's children---they'll never know what we took so
for granted.

Sigh. Gloria
>
> Cheri

OTTER

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> For whatever it's worth, suburban sprawl is a plague all over this country of
> ours and I, for one, would like to see it stopped, or at least checked. Here
> in Colorado, the once beautiful and lush farmlands north of Denver are being
> relentlessly gobbled up by square mile after square mile of suburban
> development these past 10 years. The loss of the farmland is bad enough, but
> worse is, these soul-less people moving into these oceans of cookie-cutter
> developments are calling for the extermination of the prairie dog and
> rattlesnakes "because they carry disease and pose a threat to humans." Worse,
> in Longmont (36 miles north of Denver), there's a call by new suburbanites
> there to eliminate the "annoying sounds" of all farm animals (like
roosters and
> goats).
>
> It's kinda disgusting in that these people move out to an ever-burgeoning
> suburban landscape because they want to live "in the country" while at
the same
> time destroying every vestige of "country" with their "homes" and
crabgrass and
> wildlife-free lawns.
>
> It's a shame to see so much of the American landscape being consumed and
> utterly destroyed by these soul-less, selfish and overly materialistic people.

Sad, but true, Basil. Well said. Gloria

OTTER

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> Hi Cheri.......I think that some of us take a lot of things for granted. I
> read your post, and I started walking around the house shutting the noise
> makers off tonight. (the ceiling fan in the bedroom....the tv in the living
> room.....etc....until I could hear the silence.

Good for you, Nanci! I think in our hurried world, we forget what stress
we place on ourselves by not slowing down and truly being quiet for a
moment or two.

During a recent visit with Mardy, we were sitting on her porch and she
closed her eyes and said, "Listen. The wind is coming." I listened and
sure enough, the wind started whispering through the huge fir trees until
it became an ebbing and flowing sound all around. Isn't it amazing what
we miss in our everyday lives? And I guess that's what makes Mardy Murie
Mardy Murie---because she's always been so in tune with nature.

That one moment shared with her has made me much more aware in the weeks
since of trying to be more alert to my surroundings and stopping the
rushing around just for a few moments to enjoy my surroundings.

Best, Gloria

Basil72

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>Gloria....
>
>I just had to respond to your bringing up the "chirrup of crickets".
>
>I grew up where I'm still residing...and summertimes were filled with
>lightening bugs, faces sticky with wild blackberries, and CRICKETS. I'm so

>happy that my own son (now 23) enjoyed a lot of that himself.....but I've
>noticed (and have mentioned to quite a few people) that the crickets are
>silent.
>
>Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country" again...I can't
>tell
>you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that would
>come
>over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no longer
>here.
>
>Sad, isn't it?
>
>Cheri
></PRE></HTML>

Cheri, it's wonderful that you're living in a place where you grew up (so few
Americans do, it seems), but it's sad that you can no longer hear the chirrup
of the crickets and see the dance of the fireflies over the yard at sunset.

Basil

Nanci124

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>..I can't tell
>you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that would
>come
>over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no longer
>here.
>
>Sad, isn't it?
>
>Cheri

Hi Cheri.......I think that some of us take a lot of things for granted. I


read your post, and I started walking around the house shutting the noise
makers off tonight. (the ceiling fan in the bedroom....the tv in the living

room.....etc....until I could hear the silence. And then I went out back on
the porch and listened to it. I heard the crickets, and the chicadas..(those
little bugs are really noisy) and I heard the snap, crackle, and pop, of my
neighbors campfire down the street. (YES, we are allowed campfires here, as
long as they are in a contained area) Matter-of-fact, we had quite a little
sing-a-long there last Friday night! It's truly amazing what you can hear when
you turn the noise off.
I wish I could send you a few Rhode Island Crickets......the one that has
taken up residency under neath my refrigerator is quite verbal. I tried to get
Kitty Butt after him........but his "butt" is firmly planted in the petunias!

Nancy
(who is also looking for an invitation to Dot's for Christmas)
Ain't Life Grand?


allth...@ftc-i.net

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Cheri, I wonder if there is a *cricket virus* out there! We do not live in town
and used to hear a lot of crickets during the summer months. Now we do not hear
hardly any. They also used to get in our house a lot, but with there obviously
being fewer of them, they don't do that anymore, either. Very strange!

Best,
Dot

Cheri057 wrote:

> >Subject: Re: Western heat
> >From: ott...@onewest.net (OTTER)
> >Date: Thu, Jul 27, 2000 01:43 EDT
>
> <snip>
>

> > Ah, what lovely memories that just conjured up---sleeping
> >with the chirrup of crickets in the background. (The house was on 75 acres
> >so no traffic noise at all and no neighbors to peek at us running around
> >in our nightgowns!)
>

> Gloria....
>
> I just had to respond to your bringing up the "chirrup of crickets".
>
> I grew up where I'm still residing...and summertimes were filled with
> lightening bugs, faces sticky with wild blackberries, and CRICKETS. I'm so
> happy that my own son (now 23) enjoyed a lot of that himself.....but I've
> noticed (and have mentioned to quite a few people) that the crickets are
> silent.
>

> Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country" again...I can't tell

allth...@ftc-i.net

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I remember those weird looking crickets, Penny! Yes, the ones we have here, or used
to have, are a very dark color. We still have them, but not to the degree that we
had them here for years. I wonder what in the world has happened to all of our
crickets! They must have headed West!

Best,
Dot

Penny G wrote:

> We have a lot here in Tucson, too. The ones back east were black/dark brown, but
> the ones here are a kind of medium brown. I thought they looked really weird! I
> love to hear them outside - but not in the house!
>
> Penny G
>
> Itamazesme wrote:
>
> > Wow..I must be lucky......I live in the middle of huge LA and we have so many
> > crickets I can bearly hear at night. Sometimes they get inside and oh my gosh
> > they are so loud. We have to hunt for them to get them back outside. Little
> > devils.
> > Hollie darlin
> >

allth...@ftc-i.net

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OTTER wrote:

<Lightening bugs??? Cheri, you *must* have southern heritage! Everyone outside
the south calls them "fireflies". I had never heard them called that until I
moved away from Georgia! We always loved to catch "lightening bugs" and put them
in a jar (which we kids thought was way kewl to make our own lanterns)!>

Yup. Only knew them as "lightening bugs". Used to run around at night catching
them in a bell jar and then putting the lid on that had holes in it and watching
them light up! So much fun to watch! Course, we always let them go, too.!

>Ah, yes! We had blackberry bushes just down the lane at Grandmother's house and
we'd pick them and she'd make blackberry cobbler. I am *drooling* at the
thought!<

We still have blackberry bushes here, Gloria. Have a lot of frozen blackberries
out in my freezer now. Love them on cereal in the mornings as well as in
muffins, cobbler, etc. They are wonderful and really good for you!

<It truly is. Isn't it a wonder that the smallest, seemingly unimportant things
from our childhoods hold so much meaning for us today? Is it because they're
gone or because we're nostalgic for those simpler, sweeter days? My daughter
even said once that she wished she had been born in the fifties because it was a
simpler, more innocent time. I feel a great sadness for most of today's
children---they'll never know what we took so for granted.>

I wish our daughter could have grown up in Florida back in the 50's like my hubby
and I did. So much to do in the way of nature and not a lot of people down there
at that time. I literally grew up fishing, watching eagles build nests in our
backyard, had an alligator that lived in a ditch in our front yard and just lived
to swim in that terrific Gulf of Mexico. Wonderful memories of the outdoors.

Best,
Dot

allth...@ftc-i.net

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Nancy, come on down!! You just got that invite! Maybe we won't hear crickets that
time of year (not hearing them now!), but we can sure hear the crackle that a nice
warm fire makes in a fireplace!

Get Kitty Butt out of those petunias and after that cricket! I know how loud they
can be (especially once all the lights are out) and they start chirping in your
living room at 3 a.m. in the morning! Yikes! LOL!

Best,
Dot

Nanci124 wrote:

> >..I can't tell
> >you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that would
> >come
> >over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no longer
> >here.
> >

> >Sad, isn't it?
> >
> >Cheri
>

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: ott...@onewest.net (OTTER)
>Date: Fri, Jul 28, 2000 19:25 EDT

>It truly is. Isn't it a wonder that the smallest, seemingly unimportant
>things from our childhoods hold so much meaning for us today? Is it
>because they're gone or because we're nostalgic for those simpler, sweeter
>days? My daughter even said once that she wished she had been born in the
>fifties because it was a simpler, more innocent time. I feel a great
>sadness for most of today's children---they'll never know what we took so
>for granted.
>

>Sigh. Gloria


AMEN!

Running around outside in the back yard in your jammies chasing lightening bugs
(okay..fireflies!) in the early evening, after your bath..beats the heck outta
video games anyday, I say.

And yep, we call them lightneing bugs here....funny how words change from state
to state!

Cheri:)

KJ

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They've always been lightening bugs here in Wisconsin. I've heard fireflies
too, but they'll always be lightening bugs to me. I still get excited when
I see them come out in June.

KJ


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Basil72

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>It truly is. Isn't it a wonder that the smallest, seemingly unimportant
>things from our childhoods hold so much meaning for us today? Is it
>because they're gone or because we're nostalgic for those simpler, sweeter
>days? My daughter even said once that she wished she had been born in the
>fifties because it was a simpler, more innocent time. I feel a great
>sadness for most of today's children---they'll never know what we took so
>for granted.
>
>Sigh. Gloria
>>

Gloria, don't be so sad. Every generation remembers a "simpler time," and
there will come a day when you are old and gray and your daughter remembers
such a time.

With every generation, old faults are forgotten and the elders are held up as
ancestral gods by the younger generations.

Enjoy life, Gloria, and find no fault with your children and grandchildren, for
someday, they will look up to you as a god.

Basil

Basil72

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>I guess we just are never happy with our weather. I am FREEZING this
>morning! Connecticut has set an all time high July daily temp for the last
>2 days--66!!! It has rained for 2 plus days--over 3 inches in parts of the
>state. I am sitting here with the windows wide open--but wearing a flannel
>bathrobe and furry slippers!!! Yesterday, a section of Rt 84 here in East
>Hartford, collapsed into a huge pothole, leaving a 4 inch curb effect.
>Twenty seven cars hit it at 60 plus mph, and the air bags went off and the
>tires blew. They said the cars were pulled over along an almost 1 mile
>section of road, all awaiting wreckers!! I guess it was quite a scene, but,
>thank God, no one was hurt apparently!
>
>In the scope of things, after hearing about all the fires and the people
>suffering so much from the extreme and prolonged heat, I guess we can't
>complain too much--but a peak at the sun would be nice! Christine, have you
>been sending your weather here?
>
>Barb
>
>
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Barb, I can't believe all that rain and 66 degree weather in CT ... in July no
less! How annoying that must be.

I hope and pray that you find much better weather when you come to Colorado.
Here, the skies have been very clear and the temperatures have been
unseasonably hot all summer long.

Fond hugs,
Basil/Justin

Basil72

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>Hi Cheri.......I think that some of us take a lot of things for granted. I
>read your post, and I started walking around the house shutting the noise
>makers off tonight. (the ceiling fan in the bedroom....the tv in the living
>room.....etc....until I could hear the silence. And then I went out back on
>the porch and listened to it. I heard the crickets, and the chicadas..(those
>little bugs are really noisy) and I heard the snap, crackle, and pop, of my
>neighbors campfire down the street. (YES, we are allowed campfires here, as
>long as they are in a contained area) Matter-of-fact, we had quite a little
>sing-a-long there last Friday night! It's truly amazing what you can hear
>when
>you turn the noise off.
> I wish I could send you a few Rhode Island Crickets......the one that has
>taken up residency under neath my refrigerator is quite verbal. I tried to
>get
>Kitty Butt after him........but his "butt" is firmly planted in the petunias!
>
>Nancy
> (who is also looking for an invitation to Dot's for Christmas)
>Ain't Life Grand?
>
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Nancy, it's been a long time since I read such a beautiful message.

Thank you for posting.
Basil

Penny G

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allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> OTTER wrote:
>
> <Lightening bugs??? Cheri, you *must* have southern heritage! Everyone outside
> the south calls them "fireflies". I had never heard them called that until I
> moved away from Georgia! We always loved to catch "lightening bugs" and put them
> in a jar (which we kids thought was way kewl to make our own lanterns)!>
>
> Yup. Only knew them as "lightening bugs". Used to run around at night catching
> them in a bell jar and then putting the lid on that had holes in it and watching
> them light up! So much fun to watch! Course, we always let them go, too.!
>
> >Ah, yes! We had blackberry bushes just down the lane at Grandmother's house and
> we'd pick them and she'd make blackberry cobbler. I am *drooling* at the
> thought!<
>
> We still have blackberry bushes here, Gloria. Have a lot of frozen blackberries
> out in my freezer now. Love them on cereal in the mornings as well as in
> muffins, cobbler, etc. They are wonderful and really good for you!
>

> <It truly is. Isn't it a wonder that the smallest, seemingly unimportant things
> from our childhoods hold so much meaning for us today? Is it because they're
> gone or because we're nostalgic for those simpler, sweeter days? My daughter
> even said once that she wished she had been born in the fifties because it was a
> simpler, more innocent time. I feel a great sadness for most of today's
> children---they'll never know what we took so for granted.>
>

> I wish our daughter could have grown up in Florida back in the 50's like my hubby
> and I did. So much to do in the way of nature and not a lot of people down there
> at that time. I literally grew up fishing, watching eagles build nests in our
> backyard, had an alligator that lived in a ditch in our front yard and just lived
> to swim in that terrific Gulf of Mexico. Wonderful memories of the outdoors.
>
> Best,
> Dot

I grew calling them "lightning bugs" too! I was born & raised in Pennsylvania, but my
family's from Tennessee, North Carolina, and . . . Georgia, I think. Southern
influence dies hard.

Penny G

Penny G

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They all came to my house to live in my kitchen light fixture!!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> I remember those weird looking crickets, Penny! Yes, the ones we have here, or used
> to have, are a very dark color. We still have them, but not to the degree that we
> had them here for years. I wonder what in the world has happened to all of our
> crickets! They must have headed West!
>
> Best,
> Dot
>
> Penny G wrote:
>
> > We have a lot here in Tucson, too. The ones back east were black/dark brown, but
> > the ones here are a kind of medium brown. I thought they looked really weird! I
> > love to hear them outside - but not in the house!
> >
> > Penny G
> >
> > Itamazesme wrote:
> >
> > > Wow..I must be lucky......I live in the middle of huge LA and we have so many
> > > crickets I can bearly hear at night. Sometimes they get inside and oh my gosh
> > > they are so loud. We have to hunt for them to get them back outside. Little
> > > devils.
> > > Hollie darlin
> > >

> > > >>>>>Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country" again...I can't

allth...@ftc-i.net

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LOL! Well, you will have to send them back this way! We'll have to share the little
critters!

Best
Dot

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: "KJ" <noo...@NOSPAMjvlnet.com>
>Date: Sat, Jul 29, 2000 22:15 EDT

>They've always been lightening bugs here in Wisconsin. I've heard fireflies
>too, but they'll always be lightening bugs to me. I still get excited when
>I see them come out in June.
>
>KJ

They were always magical little critters when we were young, weren' they?

'Cept I still get all excited when I see one
appear in June too. :)

Cheri:)

KJ

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I love teaching the little ones how to catch them. The look on their faces
is just about enough to make me want to laugh with the wonder of it all
myself.

KJ


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OTTER

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> I love teaching the little ones how to catch them. The look on their faces
> is just about enough to make me want to laugh with the wonder of it all
> myself.
>
> KJ
>

Isn't that the number one reason to have children and grandchildren???

:O) Gloria

Itamazesme

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Yes Dot.......and they are all in my backyard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and trying to get
in my house!!!!!!!!!
Hollie Darlin in LA

Gwen

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From>Yes Dot.......and they are all in my backyard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and trying

Report from Orlando also,

We have no crickets; no *lightening bugs* and no big old fat earth worms like
they did when I was a kid growing up in Cleveland. Not sure if it's because
they just don't have them in Orlando or if it's because it's been so long since
I was a kid and I have outlived the critters.

My kids never knew the fun of catching the lightening bugs and putting them in
a jar with holes poked in the top. )):

Take Care,
Gwen

"And if peace is what we pray for
and peace is what we give
then peace will be the way we are
and peace the way we live"

The Peace Poem
Words by John Denver
from It's About Time (1983)


allth...@ftc-i.net

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LOL! Run for it, Hollie!

Best,
Dot

allth...@ftc-i.net

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Gulp! No lightening bugs in Florida?? Oh, no! I caught a million of them when
growing up in the Tampa Bay area back in the dark ages! No big fat earth worms
either?? Oh, that is just too much! I used to catch a lot of those night crawlers
at night and use them for fish bait! Now, we do have lightening bugs and night
crawlers here in South Carolina, just no crickets! :>(

Best,
Dot

Gwen wrote:

> >Yes Dot.......and they are all in my backyard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and trying to
> >get
> >in my house!!!!!!!!!
> >Hollie Darlin in LA
> >
> >>>>>>>>I wonder what in the world has happened to all of our
> >crickets! They must have headed West!
> >

> From>Yes Dot.......and they are all in my backyard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and trying


> to
> >get
> >in my house!!!!!!!!!
> >Hollie Darlin in LA
> >
> >>>>>>>>I wonder what in the world has happened to all of our
> >crickets! They must have headed West!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >Yes Dot.......and they are all in my backyard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and trying to
> >get
> >in my house!!!!!!!!!
> >Hollie Darlin in LA
> >
> >>>>>>>>I wonder what in the world has happened to all of our
> >crickets! They must have headed West!
> >
> >

OTTER

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Anybody remember "doodlebugs"?

:O) GLoria

allth...@ftc-i.net

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Are those ants?? I remember the name, but can't remember what they
were!

Best,
Dot

KJ

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Which is why I borrow my nieces every chance I get!

KJ


OTTER <ott...@onewest.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> > I love teaching the little ones how to catch them. The look on their
faces
> > is just about enough to make me want to laugh with the wonder of it all
> > myself.
> >
> > KJ
> >
> Isn't that the number one reason to have children and grandchildren???
>
> :O) Gloria
>

OTTER

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> Are those ants?? I remember the name, but can't remember what they
> were!
>
> Best,
> Dot

No, doodlebugs were just under the dirt and left a little conical
depression in the dirt where they were. You'd take a small twig, put the
end of it in the cone and twirl it around to get the doodlebug out. When
they walked along on their multiple feet, their "skin" looked like an
armadillo. If you touched them, they'd roll up in a ball. Tiny little
things---maybe 1/2" or less long when walking.

I used to love to sit in the dirt and get those doodlebugs out of their
hole. Must be what landlubbers do when they can't go clammin'!

Best, Gloria

allth...@ftc-i.net

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I remember those, Gloria! I have been clammin' and would wade out and dig
them out with my feet. Have to be careful of your toes though!

Best,
Dot

Penny G

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Never went clammin', but I used to dig up a lot of sand crabs! LOL

Penny G

Shelby

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Dot,

I live in Florida now and often wonder what it must have been like years
ago. The Gulf Coast area must have been wonderful.

Patricia in FL

Shelby

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There are lightening bugs in my area (North FL), along with lots of other
things, too! Scorpions, anyone? LOL


Patricia in FL

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Diamondsnstones

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><Lightening bugs??? Cheri, you *must* have southern heritage! Everyone
>outside
>the south calls them "fireflies". I had never heard them called that until I
>moved away from Georgia! We always loved to catch "lightening bugs" and put
>them
>in a jar (which we kids thought was way kewl to make our own lanterns)!>
>
>Yup. Only knew them as "lightening bugs". Used to run around at night
>catching
>them in a bell jar and then putting the lid on that had holes in it and
>watching
>them light up! So much fun to watch! Course, we always let them go, too.!
>

Yep in Tenn, we did that too and we called the critters lightening bugs as
well. They were neat and summer at dusk was great. It smelled wonderful and
the breeze was nice as the sun went down. Sue

Diamondsnstones

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>> long as they are in a contained area) Matter-of-fact, we had quite a
>little
>> sing-a-long there last Friday night! It's truly amazing what you can hear
>when
>> you turn the noise off.
>> I wish I could send you a few Rhode Island Crickets......the one that has
>> taken up residency under neath my refrigerator is quite verbal. I tried to
>get
>> Kitty Butt after him........but his "butt" is firmly planted in the
>petunias!
>>
>> Nancy
>> (who is also looking for an invitation to Dot's for Christmas)
>> Ain't Life Grand?
>

Get down on your hands and knees and pretend to play with the bug under the
Refrigerator and see how long it takes for Kitty Butt to come and join you at
your game. In fact you might be so intransed with this game that you will
fight KB for the right to worry the cricket to death under there, (you may
find other interesting stuff under there as well if you don't play carefully)
Then do not, I repeat, do not go sit in the petunias~ Love Sue (who did not
get an invitation to Dot's for Christmas either and is pouting in front of her
closet.)

Diamondsnstones

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In article <3983B580...@usa.net>, Penny G <green...@usa.net> writes:

>
>> I wish our daughter could have grown up in Florida back in the 50's like my
>hubby
>> and I did. So much to do in the way of nature and not a lot of people down
>there
>> at that time. I literally grew up fishing, watching eagles build nests in
>our
>> backyard, had an alligator that lived in a ditch in our front yard and just
>lived
>> to swim in that terrific Gulf of Mexico. Wonderful memories of the
>outdoors.
>>
>> Best,
>>

Our three boys who are now in their fourties grew up in Jupiter, Fl and swam in
the Intercoastal waterway and fished for Tarpan out of our back yard and drove
and swam n the ocean all year round. It was a great place then for them to
grow up but our grandchildren have seen the invasion of drugs, and the dying of
the ocean and the filth of the waterway and hoards of the wealthy swarm into Fl
and build Condos that cut off the sea breezes and the afternoon storms are
gone. It is hot and humid and the traffic is terrible and kids are not able to
freely enjoy the natural beauty that was once there for all. It is one of the
great sadnesses of our lives that we could not preserve this beauty and pass it
on to future generations but we did try and gave it our best shot. Money rules
and is powerful and wins the war against the environmentalists and the
preservationists. Now we have left Florida to the wealthy retired people who
sit in their Air Conditioned Apartments and go out to dinner in fancy
restaurants and then back to their apartments to play cards never really
knowing what they have missed. Sue

Diamondsnstones

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In article <20000730193001...@ng-fj1.aol.com>, cher...@aol.com
(Cheri057) writes:

>
>They were always magical little critters when we were young, weren' they?
>
>'Cept I still get all excited when I see one
>appear in June too. :)
>
>Cheri:)
>

Don't you be a catchin' those critters now, ya' hear? It is cruel and a nasty
thing to do. They are just freedom loving little things. sue

Diamondsnstones

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>>
>> > > > >>>>>Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country"
>again...I can't
>> > > > tell
>> > > > you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that
>would come
>> > > > over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no
>longer
>> > > > here.

>v
I guess you all don't want to hear that crickets are VERY close relatives of
roaches do ya"? Cause they are and they can do a lot of damage in a house, or
a closet for that matter~~~~~~~ Just an imformational paid for advertisement
program brought to you by Sue's Closet

allth...@ftc-i.net

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I sure remember the scorpions! When living in St. Pete, FL, I was bit by one
on my toe while I was hanging my feet over the edge of a dock. Boy, did that
hurt! Hate those things! Saw a ton of them out in Arizona, too.

Best,
Dot

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Are these the same as the little fiddler crabs? <g> Saw lots of those in
Florida.

Best,
Dot

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Oh, it was beautiful Patricia. The water (Gulf Of Mexico) was just gorgeous.
It was so clear til you could see right down to the bottom until you got to
the point that it dropped off. I just lived in it. Have so many wonderful
memories. When I would go to the beach, all of Gulf Blvd. (main road running
down the beaches of St. Petersburg) was just beaches, and wonderful open
restaurants, quaint cottages, wonderful smells, etc. Now, you can't even see
the Gulf for all of the condos that run the length of that whole area and
there is a ton of traffic. Very sad.

Best,
Dot

Shelby wrote:

> Dot,
>
> I live in Florida now and often wonder what it must have been like years
> ago. The Gulf Coast area must have been wonderful.
>
> Patricia in FL
>

> > I wish our daughter could have grown up in Florida back in the 50's like
> my hubby
> > and I did. So much to do in the way of nature and not a lot of people
> down there
> > at that time. I literally grew up fishing, watching eagles build nests
> in our
> > backyard, had an alligator that lived in a ditch in our front yard and
> just lived
> > to swim in that terrific Gulf of Mexico. Wonderful memories of the
> outdoors.
> >
> > Best,

> > Dot
>
>
>


Shelby

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Dot,

I sure wish I could have seen it like that. When I moved from Colorado to
Florida, it was to Bradenton which is on the Gulf side of the state. It has
beautiful beaches and waterfront areas. I got to see the St. Petersburg
area only briefly (driving through once) but I did not like it. To me, it
was alot like the Atlantic side (Ft. Lauderdale---I lived there, too.).

The beach in Bradenton was never crowded while I was there. We used to walk
there frequently and I spent many hours shelling. Just off the beach area
dolphins can be seen from time to time. I don't know if Bradenton is like
'the old days' or not. If it is, boy how times have changed.

I am now in the Jacksonville area. I like being close to a large city but I
do miss the Gulf beach atmosphere.

Patricia in FL

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Shelby

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Dot,

When we first moved into our current home, we had problems with scorpions
in the house. It was a wet time of the year and they decided to take up
residence in our attic (neighbors all had the same thing happen). For
awhile, I kept finding them in the kitchen, bathroom and hallways. They
were trying to find areas in the house with moisture. The house was treated
and they went away. However, I did find one this summer.

The ones here are not the big ones like in the desert. They are about 3-4
in. long including the tail. If you are stung by one, it supposedly is like
a bee sting. I am told that they are good because they eat other insects
(no shortage of those around here----lol), but when I find alive ones in
the house it sorta creeps me out. This past spring I found one on the porch
that had babies on its back. I moved them outside under a tree.


Patricia in FL
P.S. Do you remember BIG grasshoppers? lol Right now they seem to be
everywhere.


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Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: diamond...@aol.com (Diamondsnstones)
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 01:36 EDT


>Don't you be a catchin' those critters now, ya' hear? It is cruel and a
>nasty
>thing to do. They are just freedom loving little things. sue


Ahhh Sue..it's been awhile since I did THAT....about 38 years or so. :)

My son, on the other hand, was allowed to catch 'em..and then we let them free
to "light up the way for the animals "(Such a clever Mom I was....LOL!)

Cheri:)

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: diamond...@aol.com (Diamondsnstones)
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 01:36 EDT

>Our three boys who are now in their fourties grew up in Jupiter, Fl and swam


>in
>the Intercoastal waterway and fished for Tarpan out of our back yard and
>drove
>and swam n the ocean all year round. It was a great place then for them to
>grow up but our grandchildren have seen the invasion of drugs, and the dying
>of
>the ocean and the filth of the waterway and hoards of the wealthy swarm into
>Fl
>and build Condos that cut off the sea breezes and the afternoon storms are
>gone. It is hot and humid and the traffic is terrible and kids are not able
>to
>freely enjoy the natural beauty that was once there for all. It is one of
>the
>great sadnesses of our lives that we could not preserve this beauty and pass
>it
>on to future generations but we did try and gave it our best shot. Money
>rules
>and is powerful and wins the war against the environmentalists and the
>preservationists. Now we have left Florida to the wealthy retired people who
>sit in their Air Conditioned Apartments and go out to dinner in fancy
>restaurants and then back to their apartments to play cards never really
>knowing what they have missed. Sue


Sue...

That was wonderfully stated (no kidding around now)....

I often think that it's just HERE (in NY) that things have changed so....what
is going on with Our World....

Sad.

Cheri:(

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: diamond...@aol.com (Diamondsnstones)
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 01:36 EDT
>I guess you all don't want to hear that crickets are VERY close relatives of
>roaches do ya"? Cause they are and they can do a lot of damage in a house,
>or
>a closet for that matter~~

Awwwww, Sue..thats like talking about those furbaby squirrels being cuz's to
River Rats....

And a "cricket in the house, brings good will and good luck".

Cheri:) PS..Old Jimminy would be ticked, ya know.

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: ott...@onewest.net (OTTER)
>Date: Mon, Jul 31, 2000 13:30 EDT


>Anybody remember "doodlebugs"?
>
>:O) GLoria

uhhhhhh....nope.

Anything like "cooties"?

Cheri:)

Nanci124

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>Anything like "cooties"?
>
>Cheri:)

I remember the game "Cootie". I was a very inventive child......I used to like
to make my own cooties. Put the legs in sideways, and you had "Cootie taking a
nap" Put them in askew, and it was "Roadkill Cootie".....there was also
dancing cootie....cootie picking his nose. Okay....I know....I was a perverted
child!!!! Do they still make that game? I might need something to do!

Nancy
Ain't Cooties Grand?

allth...@ftc-i.net

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Patricia,

I sure wish you could have seen St. Peteresburg when it was this very pretty
small city. The beaches were wonderful with the most beautiful white sand. I
am sure the sand is still very white. I never cared much for the Atlantic side
because the sand was a dark color. It has built up in that whole Tampa Bay
Area (which St. Pete is now a part of) to just unbelievable amounts of traffic
and people. It frankly makes me ill and I am glad that we do not have to visit
anymore. My husbands mom and sister now live up here so there is no need for
us to come down.

I have been to Bradenton many times. Used to have to go over the tall (150 ft.
high) Sunshine Skyway bridge. I know they had to replace that bridge due to a
huge boat, or barge, hitting it and killing a bunch of people who were at the
top of the bridge trying to drive across. What a nightmare. I always hated
that bridge from the time they first put it up. They have a much lower bridge
now don't they? I would imagine that Bradenton is probably closer to be being
the "old Florida" then what St. Pete is now. I know on up the west coast
(heading north) there is a place called Cedar Key that sits right on the Gulf.
That is as close to looking like the old Florida as you will ever see.

Best,
Dot

allth...@ftc-i.net

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The scorpions still give me the creeps. The one that bit me was not that big,
but boy that bite on the toe HURT! Yikes! Talk about jumping around!

I do remember big grasshoppers and also big palmetto bugs (large roaches) that
flew! Had one fly into my face one night when I was trying to sleep and scared
the living daylights out of me.

Watch out that one of those scorpions do not bite you. They may be small, but
they will make you hollar and dance around! lol!

Best,
Dot

Shelby wrote:

> Dot,
>

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Be very careful, Penny! I am sure your kitties did not know what to think. We saw
those things when lived out there and they are positively scary! I would be
running the other way! I guess when I was bitten by one, I now have an extreme
fear of them, and let's face it, they are not the prettiest of all of God's
critters. I know they serve their purpose, but I don't want them biting my toe
anymore!

Best,
Dot

Penny G wrote:

> They're here, all right! So far I've been lucky - in 8 years I've only seen one
> live scorprion. My cats saw it, too. They didn't know WHAT to think! LOL
>
> Penny G


>
> allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:
>
> > I sure remember the scorpions! When living in St. Pete, FL, I was bit by one
> > on my toe while I was hanging my feet over the edge of a dock. Boy, did that
> > hurt! Hate those things! Saw a ton of them out in Arizona, too.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dot
> >
> > Shelby wrote:
> >
> > > There are lightening bugs in my area (North FL), along with lots of other
> > > things, too! Scorpions, anyone? LOL
> > >
> > > Patricia in FL
> > >

allth...@ftc-i.net

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It bothers me!! Ick! I knew there was a reason that I didn't like lobster! <g>

Best,
Dot

Penny G wrote:

> What a lovely thought, Sue - lobsters are related to roaches, too, but that
> doesn't seem to bother anybody who eats them! :)
>
> Penny G


>
> Diamondsnstones wrote:
>
> > In article <39843D3C...@ftc-i.net>, allth...@ftc-i.net writes:
> >
> > >>
> > >> > > > >>>>>Thank you Urban sprawl....I yearn to live in the "country"
> > >again...I can't
> > >> > > > tell
> > >> > > > you how much I miss those crickets at night, and what a feeling that
> > >would come
> > >> > > > over me when I would hear them ushering in Summer. But they are no
> > >longer
> > >> > > > here.
> > >v

> > I guess you all don't want to hear that crickets are VERY close relatives of
> > roaches do ya"? Cause they are and they can do a lot of damage in a house, or

allth...@ftc-i.net

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You are invited! Get away from that closet and quit pouting!! LOL!

Best,
Dot

OTTER

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>
> At the risk of dating myself, I remember my father talking about that. A
> doodlebug was an old make of some sort of American automobile.
>
> Basil

My Granddaddy always called his '32 Ford a "jitterbug".

:O) Gloria

Penny G

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Penny G

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Penny G

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Don't think so! We used to go crabbing in the summertime. Those little boogies were
great escape artists!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> Are these the same as the little fiddler crabs? <g> Saw lots of those in
> Florida.
>

> Best,
> Dot
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

> > Never went clammin', but I used to dig up a lot of sand crabs! LOL
> >
> > Penny G


> >
> > allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:
> >
> > > I remember those, Gloria! I have been clammin' and would wade out and dig
> > > them out with my feet. Have to be careful of your toes though!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Dot
> > >
> > > OTTER wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Are those ants?? I remember the name, but can't remember what they
> > > > > were!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Dot
> > > >
> > > > No, doodlebugs were just under the dirt and left a little conical
> > > > depression in the dirt where they were. You'd take a small twig, put the
> > > > end of it in the cone and twirl it around to get the doodlebug out. When
> > > > they walked along on their multiple feet, their "skin" looked like an
> > > > armadillo. If you touched them, they'd roll up in a ball. Tiny little
> > > > things---maybe 1/2" or less long when walking.
> > > >
> > > > I used to love to sit in the dirt and get those doodlebugs out of their
> > > > hole. Must be what landlubbers do when they can't go clammin'!
> > > >

> > > > Best, Gloria

Penny G

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Don't worry, we took the kitties to the other room while we dispensed the critter! I
would not let them too close to it for very long. Hideous things! <shudder> They really
creep me out! But, at least out here, the bigger they are, the less venomous. I don't
know what they eat, but I know ants eat scorpions while they're sleeping in their
burrows!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> Be very careful, Penny! I am sure your kitties did not know what to think. We saw
> those things when lived out there and they are positively scary! I would be
> running the other way! I guess when I was bitten by one, I now have an extreme
> fear of them, and let's face it, they are not the prettiest of all of God's
> critters. I know they serve their purpose, but I don't want them biting my toe
> anymore!
>

> Best,
> Dot
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

> > They're here, all right! So far I've been lucky - in 8 years I've only seen one

> > live scorprion. My cats saw it, too. They didn't know WHAT to think! LOL
> >
> > Penny G

Penny G

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LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager of a
seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> It bothers me!! Ick! I knew there was a reason that I didn't like lobster! <g>
>

> Best,
> Dot
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

Basil72

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>Anybody remember "doodlebugs"?
>
>:O) GLoria
>
>

At the risk of dating myself, I remember my father talking about that. A

Diamondsnstones

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In article <20000801234050...@ng-bk1.aol.com>, bas...@aol.com
(Basil72) writes:

>
>At the risk of dating myself, I remember my father talking about that. A
>doodlebug was an old make of some sort of American automobile.
>

Surely you can find someone besides yourself to date Basil. You would have to
talk to yourself over dinner and people would stare, not that I don't think
that is really rude when they do that but I think you are a person who can find
someone to go out with and not risk dating yourself! <g>: Sue

Diamondsnstones

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In article <20000801193804...@ng-fj1.aol.com>, nanc...@aol.com
(Nanci124) writes:

>
>I remember the game "Cootie". I was a very inventive child......I used to
>like
>to make my own cooties. Put the legs in sideways, and you had "Cootie taking
>a
>nap" Put them in askew, and it was "Roadkill Cootie".....there was also
>dancing cootie....cootie picking his nose. Okay....I know....I was a
>perverted
>child!!!! Do they still make that game? I might need something to do!
>

Nancy dear, you not only need something to do but you need to get a life here
lately, Is that fireman putting out fires regularly or has he gone on
vacation? I have always know you had a strange childhood but must you tell all
on the ng? Love ya'
Sue

Diamondsnstones

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In article <20000801181923...@ng-cm1.aol.com>, cher...@aol.com
(Cheri057) writes:

>
>Awwwww, Sue..thats like talking about those furbaby squirrels being cuz's to
>River Rats....
>
>And a "cricket in the house, brings good will and good luck".
>
>Cheri:) PS..Old Jimminy would be ticked, ya know.
>

Well the educational lecture for tonite is that squirrels are rats and so are
bunny rats. They all come from the same type of animal species and you can
call it good luck if you want to if you have a cricket in the house but it is a
'Chinese belief and I know they kept them in little cages so they wouldn't get
out and devour things. You could keep a roach in a little cage but it would
get out at night! Kafka knew about
these things and wrote a book about a cock roach. Lovely reading. Love to
you.
Sue On the road and searching for prairie dogs who also are related to less
than desireable pests.

OTTER

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> Sue On the road and searching for prairie dogs who also are related to less
> than desireable pests.

Sue, could I interest you in some chipmunks? We have a bumper crop this
year. So far I have trapped and hauled to the other side of the rive *56*
of the little darlings. Cute they may be, but they're rodents!

Also caught 4 "chiselers" (ground-squirrels to you non-Wyoming folk)

C Reck

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Gloria,

We have had a terrible time with ground squirrels this year. Since they ate
so many of my flowers, I didn't bother with a vegetable garden. My dogs
have been very busy, but they seem to prefer just scaring the critters to
killing them.

Colleen

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Cheri057

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>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: nanc...@aol.com (Nanci124)
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 19:38 EDT

>I remember the game "Cootie". I was a very inventive child......I used to
>like
>to make my own cooties. Put the legs in sideways, and you had "Cootie taking
>a
>nap" Put them in askew, and it was "Roadkill Cootie"

ROFL!!!

I did have that game too.....but don't you remember kids (Oh mean little brats
that we were) saying "stay away from him/her....he/she's got COOTIES"!!!

Sheesh....

Cheri:)

Cheri057

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>>Subject: Re: Western heat
>From: Penny G <green...@usa.net>
>Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 23:17 EDT

>LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager
>of a
>seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!
>
>Penny G
>

Well, I just adore lobster and crab legs, crab cakes, crab quiche, crab
quesidillas, crab anything.

Unfortunately, they're first cousins to the spider.

YECK!!!

Cheri:)

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Well, now - crab is a different story. I love crab! And I guess I don't care
where they come from! :) No different than the lobster lovers, am I? Besides,
crabs are kinda cute, in an ugly sort of way. I think lobsters are just ugly.

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net

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LOL! I bet he was, Penny!

Best,
Dot G

Penny G wrote:

> LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager of a
> seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!
>
> Penny G
>

allth...@ftc-i.net

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I love crab, too! Yummy. We used to eat a lot of stone and blue crabs in Florida.

Best,
Dot G

Penny G wrote:

> Well, now - crab is a different story. I love crab! And I guess I don't care
> where they come from! :) No different than the lobster lovers, am I? Besides,
> crabs are kinda cute, in an ugly sort of way. I think lobsters are just ugly.
>
> Penny G
>
> Cheri057 wrote:
>
> > >>Subject: Re: Western heat
> > >From: Penny G <green...@usa.net>
> > >Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 23:17 EDT
> >

> > >LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager
> > >of a
> > >seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!
> > >
> > >Penny G
> > >
> >

allth...@ftc-i.net

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And those ants are welcome to them!! They are hideous and downright dangerous when they
get as big as they do out in AZ.

Best,
Dot G

Penny G wrote:

> Don't worry, we took the kitties to the other room while we dispensed the critter! I
> would not let them too close to it for very long. Hideous things! <shudder> They really
> creep me out! But, at least out here, the bigger they are, the less venomous. I don't
> know what they eat, but I know ants eat scorpions while they're sleeping in their
> burrows!
>
> Penny G
>
> allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:
>
> > Be very careful, Penny! I am sure your kitties did not know what to think. We saw
> > those things when lived out there and they are positively scary! I would be
> > running the other way! I guess when I was bitten by one, I now have an extreme
> > fear of them, and let's face it, they are not the prettiest of all of God's
> > critters. I know they serve their purpose, but I don't want them biting my toe
> > anymore!
> >

> > Best,
> > Dot
> >
> > Penny G wrote:
> >

Penny G

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Yeah, but not for long - he then tried to convince me to go to his restaurant and try the
lobster! LOL

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> LOL! I bet he was, Penny!
>

> Best,
> Dot G
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

> > LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager of a
> > seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!
> >
> > Penny G
> >

> > allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:
> >
> > > It bothers me!! Ick! I knew there was a reason that I didn't like lobster! <g>
> > >

> > > Best,
> > > Dot
> > >
> > > Penny G wrote:
> > >

Penny G

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I used to live in Baltimore, about a mile from a crab place called Bo Brooks. We'd go
in there and get 48 crabs to go. Took them back to our apartment, spread out newspaper
& chowed down! Yum! I miss that place!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> I love crab, too! Yummy. We used to eat a lot of stone and blue crabs in Florida.
>

> Best,
> Dot G
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

> > Well, now - crab is a different story. I love crab! And I guess I don't care
> > where they come from! :) No different than the lobster lovers, am I? Besides,
> > crabs are kinda cute, in an ugly sort of way. I think lobsters are just ugly.
> >
> > Penny G
> >
> > Cheri057 wrote:
> >
> > > >>Subject: Re: Western heat
> > > >From: Penny G <green...@usa.net>
> > > >Date: Tue, Aug 1, 2000 23:17 EDT
> > >

> > > >LOL! Good reason, isn't it? I don't like it, either! I once told the manager
> > > >of a
> > > >seafood restaurant that little tidbit of info. He was nearly speechless!
> > > >
> > > >Penny G
> > > >
> > >

Penny G

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They're nasty, all right. I found out about the ant thing when some friends of mine
eliminated all the anthills around their house one year. The next year, they had tons of
scorpions all spring & summer. When they talked to their exterminator, he told them that the
ants eat a lot of the dormant scorpions, and so you should not kill all the ants around your
house. Just the closest ring, so they don't get inside. I made a serious mental note of that
- I hate ants, but scorpions? <shudder> I can't STAND scorpions!!!

Penny G

allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:

> And those ants are welcome to them!! They are hideous and downright dangerous when they
> get as big as they do out in AZ.
>

> Best,
> Dot G
>
> Penny G wrote:
>

> > Don't worry, we took the kitties to the other room while we dispensed the critter! I
> > would not let them too close to it for very long. Hideous things! <shudder> They really
> > creep me out! But, at least out here, the bigger they are, the less venomous. I don't
> > know what they eat, but I know ants eat scorpions while they're sleeping in their
> > burrows!
> >
> > Penny G
> >
> > allth...@ftc-i.net wrote:
> >
> > > Be very careful, Penny! I am sure your kitties did not know what to think. We saw
> > > those things when lived out there and they are positively scary! I would be
> > > running the other way! I guess when I was bitten by one, I now have an extreme
> > > fear of them, and let's face it, they are not the prettiest of all of God's
> > > critters. I know they serve their purpose, but I don't want them biting my toe
> > > anymore!
> > >

> > > Best,
> > > Dot
> > >
> > > Penny G wrote:
> > >

> > > > They're here, all right! So far I've been lucky - in 8 years I've only seen one
> > > > live scorprion. My cats saw it, too. They didn't know WHAT to think! LOL
> > > >

> > > > Penny G

Laura

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Can someone catch some and mail them to me? My kids have never seen one,
and I think they don't believe me!
They don't exist in Colorado!
In the Chicago area, we called them
Lightning bugs too!

Laura

>They were always magical little critters when we were young, weren' they?
>>

Gwen

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Ouchie Ouchie Ouchie!!!! Scorpions bring back painful memories. Years ago we
built a house in the *woods* We had already lived in Orl about 10 yrs ago and
I had never seen any scorpions till we got near those woods. I freaked because
we used to live in Texas and I remember them being bigger and more dangerous
there but I couldn't stand them no matter what their size.

One night I was getting ready for work and took a blouse out of my closet.
Went outside to the car and all of a sudden I felt the *most PAINFUL* of bites
on my back. I knew there was something in my blouse. I started screaming and
literally ended up pulling that blouse OFF right outside on the driveway.
(Good thing we lived back in the woods with no neighbors). My husband was with
me and he picked up my blouse and their was a scorpion in it.

Oh my gosh it hurt so bad and I had an awful reaction to it. Ended up having
to leave work that night to come home for Benadryl and ice treatment. And that
pain lasted a longgggggg time.

I was on the phone to the exterminator first thing in the am LOL.
Take Care,
Gwen

"And if peace is what we pray for
and peace is what we give
then peace will be the way we are
and peace the way we live"

The Peace Poem
Words by John Denver
from It's About Time (1983)


Diamondsnstones

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In article <3988AB8B...@usa.net>, Penny G <green...@usa.net> writes:

>
>Well, now - crab is a different story. I love crab! And I guess I don't care
>where they come from! :) No different than the lobster lovers, am I? Besides,
>crabs are kinda cute, in an ugly sort of way. I think lobsters are just ugly.
>

I was in Annapolis and everyone said I had to try a soft shell crab sandwich so
I ordered one and it was expensive When it came I was freaked out. It was a
crab in the shell between two pieces of bread. I do not eat things that look
back at me and it was staring at me out from under that bread. I was so upset
I left without paying and the manager had to run after me to get his money.
UGH. Sue .

w

OTTER

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We had scorpions in Oklahoma and now in Arizona too. EEEK! I think
they're the one mistake God made!

At one time, I thought their sting could kill a person. When I found one
in my shoe, I ran and called a neighbor and she said, "No, they won't kill
you. They'll just make you wish you were dead."

So, I sympathize with the sting on your back. It must have been soooo painful!

Penny G

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OUCH! A friend of mine stepped on one in his house, then felt the need to pay it
back. He teased it for a couple of minutes, then squished it. I hope I never
encounter one the way you did!

Shaking out my clothes and shoes

Penny G

Penny G

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You shoulda turned it the other way! LOL

Penny G

ASLTsmile

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Haaaaaaaayyyyyy, now my feelings are hurt. (just kidding)

Peace,
Tricia (the Scorpian)

OTTER

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>
> >We had scorpions in Oklahoma and now in Arizona too. EEEK! I think
> >they're the one mistake God made!

Well, the reason I say that is that they sorta look unfinished, doncha
think? Kinda like a larva of something. Yuuuuuuuuk! Eeeeuuuuuww!

Gwen

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>Well, the reason I say that is that they sorta look unfinished, doncha
>think? Kinda like a larva of something. Yuuuuuuuuk! Eeeeuuuuuww!
>Gloria

YES; with that stupid tail haingin up over their head. What's with that
huh???

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