Is it Istar, Easter or Resurrection Day?
Rev. Donald Spitz
occurrence in the history of the human race - the resurrection of the Lord
Jesus Christ from the dead. This event has been the focus of celebration in
churches for almost two thousand years, however, the Christian church has
drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar (Easter).
The festival to honor the ancient goddess Istar, (Easter), is held
the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the spring equinox,
the same date Christians celebrate Easter. The Christians have called
Resurrection Day, Easter, a transliteration of the word Istar, instead of
Resurrection Day. Many churches have shifted part of their focus from the
resurrection of Jesus to Istar (Easter) and to Istar (Easter) eggs and
Istar (Easter) bunnies, symbols of this fertility goddess. A large number
of Christian churches now have groups making Istar (Easter) eggs, to sell
during the festival season of Istar.
I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
Resurrection Day.
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Rev. Donald Spitz <David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The festival to honor the ancient goddess Istar, (Easter), is held
>the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the spring equinox,
>the same date Christians celebrate Easter.
Please, Reverend, show me one documentary source that establishes that
there was ever a feast on the first Sunday after the first full moon of
spring to honor the goddes Istar. This claim is made over and over again
and never documented. The fact that the Christian feast of the
Resurrection was established according to that rhythm at a time and place
where the name Easter was not known is systematically overlooked by
people who claim it to be a pagan festival. The original name of the
festival was not Easter but Pascha, related to the word "paschal", and it
is still known by that name in middle-eastern Christian lands. And it is
there, not in northern Europe, where the name Easter originated, that
Istar or Ishtar was known. Easter is related to the
word east (Ostern-Osten in German) and did indeed relate to the season of
spring and the month of April - Oestre-monat - which derives from a
nordic goddess of the dawn, in the same way that Friday derives from the
goddess Freia. When we observe Good Friday we are not worshipping or
honoring Freia, and when we call the feast Easter we are not honoring
Oestre, much less Ishtar, which has nothing to do with the word "Easter".
The Christians have called
>Resurrection Day, Easter, a transliteration of the word Istar, instead of
>Resurrection Day. Many churches have shifted part of their focus from the
>resurrection of Jesus to Istar (Easter) and to Istar (Easter) eggs and
>Istar (Easter) bunnies, symbols of this fertility goddess. A large number
>of Christian churches now have groups making Istar (Easter) eggs, to sell
>during the festival season of Istar.
We make Easter eggs -- not in church, by the way, but at home. Your
ignorance of this tradition is similar to your ignorance of the festival
itself, although it is more understandable. The Easter egg does not
celebrate fertility but resurrection. It is a picture of the empty tomb,
and in fact early Christian graves were often engraved with the symbol.
You see, Easter represents the essential feast of Christianity having to
do not with birth but with death and its overcoming. The whole point of
the Resurrection is not a renewal of the forces of generation but of the
forces of resurrection. When we have our resurrection bodies we will no
longer need to be conceived and born, nor will we have to go through the
portal of death anymore. To associate Easter with the forces of fertility
would be to miss the whole point of it. If the Church Fathers had wanted
a fertility festival they would have associated it with the birth of
Christ, not his death and resurrection. The most common pagan festival
of fertility is May 1, and its symbol is the phallic May pole. The
symbol for Easter, for Good Friday and Easter, is not the May pole but
the cross. The symbolism is totally different. And, by the way, Easter
never falls on May 1.
You also show your ignorance of the tradition of the Easter hare. That is
understandable too, because this misconception is widely held. It is a
hare, not a "bunny" that the European tradition speaks of, a creature
whose fecundity is not at all as great as many other rodents. What is
characteristic of the hare is not his fertility but his remarkable
capacity for self-sacrifice for the sake of his fellows. There are
wonderful stories about the hare, this quiet, gentle creature who, not
hibernating like many of his fellows, is awake throughout the winter
season and present as winter turns into spring. When the fox comes to
threaten him and his mates, he places himself between the fox and the
others and lets the fox give chase while the others go into the warren.
Sometimes it is the fox who wins, and the hare gives his life, but the
others are saved. The picture of the gentle hare giving his life for the
many is a beautiful nature-picture of the deed of Christ, who sacrificed
his life for us many sinners that we may live.
> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>Resurrection Day.
I worship Christ on the feast of His Resurrection, Easter. I certainly
hope that anyone who is worshiping Istar will stop doing it, but I
haven't met any of those people. I also enjoy my children the colorful
Easter eggs, symbols of resurrection, and the Easter Rabbit (Hare), who
depicts in his animal behavior the gentleness and sacrificing quality
that Christ manifested in his sacrifical death and Resurrection.
Happy Easter.
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Gerry Palo Denver, Colorado
pa...@netcom.com
Royce Buehler
>
> Using Easter eggs, bunnies, etc is not considered worship. Have you ever seen
> anybody worshiping the Easter bunny? You people are just too uptight.
Please do not make the leap from "Reverend" Spitz to "you people".
The Spitzer is a fervent advocate of murder. The rest of us in here,
though most of us oppose abortion, regard the murder of random
bystanders in the vicinity of abortion clinics as, well, rather less
than godly.
Some of us are probably too uptight, too. But at least you can
safely turn your back on us even if we're holding guns.
Suzanne
pla...@iamerica.net wrote in message <36db3d8d....@news.iamerica.net>...
>On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:31:09 GMT, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
><David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church... (SNIP)....has
>>drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar (Easter).
>
>>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>>Resurrection Day.
>
> Geeeeezus, watta' 'kill-joy'.....!!
>
Yup, but he had a valid concern if you look within his
statements that the purity of the celebration of the
resurrection of the Lord be preserved. For him, that
may be what is best. We are not all the same people.
He feels that he wants to preserve the right attitude
about Easter. For him, the colored Easter eggs and
Easter bunny are the killjoy. That is OK in my book
that he makes his point. Each person has to examine
his motives, is the point.
>
> One doesn't have to search too far to recognize
>that we're at the beginning of another annual religious
>season, right now. Our newspapers are filled with
>articles, pictures, advertisements, "how-to" features,
>and notices of upcoming "holy" events in celebration
>of mythical, fictional, and legendary ancient events.
>
Oh, my. Were we discussing the others?
>
> The Islamic Ramadan has just finished it's run.
>And yet, we still have to look forward to a jumble of
>'live' passion plays, three-hour services, Passover
>seders, requiems, foot washings, sunrise gatherings,
>stations of the cross, and so on.
>
Jumble? That sounds like an unwelcomed event.
To me that is glorious that there are so many expressions
of Jesus' passion.
>
> Interestingly enough, Passover, Easter, and
>Ramadan are all calculated wholly or in part on the
>lunar calendar. Further, they are all off-shoots of
>earlier pagan festivals revolving around the Vernal
>Equinox, and combine fasting and feasting, and
>sacrificing with celebrating.
>
Oh, my. I think it is more that during those pagan
feasts the Christians capitalized on the event and
sought to give a better meaning to life by using that
time to educate pagans about Jesus Christ. I think
that is positive, and not negative.
>
> Looked at more closely however, the current
>religious celebrations are in truth both abhorrent and
>revolting in consideration of their origins. As an
>example, just recall that Passover is a celebration of
>the slaughter of the Egyptian innocents that was
>orchestrated by the god Yahweh himself. The term
>itself honors the 'passing-over' of the Israelite homes
>by the destroying god as he went about his grizzly task
>of slaughtering millions of the Egyptian first-borns,
>both man and beast! To add insult to injury, Yahweh
>instructs the soon to depart Israelites to "..despoil the
>Egyptians (of their jewelry and clothing!)."(Exodus
>12:35-36).
>
Now, wait. With all apologies to the current Egyptians,
who are NOT the same people that were under the
Pharaoh's domination, the Pharaoh's Egyptian people
were commanded to go and get all the Hebrew boy babies
and drown them in the Nile River. Not only were they cruel
taskmasters, but they would take the very heart of the people
of God and destroy the precious little babies 2 years old and
younger because the Devil had entered into the Pharaoh's
heart and doings. I am sick of hearing from some how the
people of God did Egypt a disservice. That is pretty blind
to me. That Egypt had murdered and done more than that
only, they had thumbed their noses at God Almighty. He
had taken care of them and prospered them because his
people lived among them. God had promises to Abraham
to uphold that were in his covenant with him. The Hebrews
in Egypt were these descendants, still under the promise of
the Covenant. Don't make the mistake of thinking that the
Egyptians didn't know that. Those Egyptians were not
innocent of murdering the babies of the Hebrews. God
ordered everything that happened after that. If you find fault
with the events, you oppose God himself.
>
Further, no uncircumcised person may
>ever partake of the Passover ceremonials (Exodus
>12:43-49). [NOTE: Although many might think
>that they're celebrating the 'Exodus'.......They're not.
>It's the 'Passover' that they're celebrating.]
>
The poster does not realize that Jesus IS our Passover !!!
HE is the Lamb of God. The Paschal Lamb was but a
representation of JESUS CHRIST. The places on the
door sills that were supposed to be touched with the
blood of the sacrificial lamb are exactly the points that a
cross would touch if it were placed in the doorway. The
bitter herbs in the Passover meal represent Christ's
payment for our sins on the cross. When the children of
Israel left Egypt and went out into the world, they had
eaten the lamb of sacrifice, and they went out into the
world with a lamb within their inward parts. We as Christians
have given our lives to the Lord, and he has put his spirit in us,
so, when we have Jesus in our hearts, we go out into the world
with THE LAMB OF GOD within us. Jesus IS our Passover !
>
> Surprising.......well, consider also Easter in
>the Christian tradition. In the first place, Easter is
>derived from the name for Eastre, the Spring goddess,
>and is a derivative of Astarte, the Canaanite love
>goddess who was widely worshipped in Biblical times.
>
No, it is more probable that the Canaanites got it from
the Persians and Eastern peoples. Astarte is but a pagan
copy of earlier things. Also Ashterah and Ashteroth. It
comes from toward the rising sun, which is a star. It means
toward the star in the most ancient etymoligies. It is in the
Creation account in Genesis. The Hebrew word came from
an earlier word. See my other post.
>
> The Easter season includes a 'Good Friday',
>the day upon which a God is tried and killed during
>the Jewish Passover (An most unlikely eventuality.).
>Death is by means of crucifixion upon the "cross".
>Embarrassingly enough, the oldest Greek texts use the
>term "stauroos", meaning "impaled upon a stake", the
>more typical treatment for common criminals. The
>'cross' is a later fiction overlaying (thankfully !) the
>image of a 'God-on-a-spit', and hardly an appropriate
>totem to place atop houses of worship.
>
The fact that you do not believe that Jesus really died
is your right to express yourself, and you indeed have
a right to be wrong. To deny that Jesus died on the
cross is to ignore mountains of evidence found in the
Word of God. If you do not believe that the Bible
is evidence, then "they" have gotten to you. The devil
would make a play for your soul. He does not tell the
truth to you. Be, rather circumspect about the fact that
there is a play for your very soul.
>
Sorry, but you cannot prove that the "stauros" is a stake.
No way. There have been numerous crosses found in
Jerusalem in archaeological things. The mother of
Constantine chose from many of these finds of crosses
the one that she believed was the one that was Jesus'.
Yet, these were not stakes but crosses. Also, the description
of the crucifixion would have led one to believe it was a cross.
Not only that, the image on the Shroud of Turin, whether you
believe that it is Jesus or not, is truly that of a man crucified
on a cross and not on a stake. The nailprints in the hands
would have had a different appearance if they had been nailed
to a stake. The description of Jesus' death was in keeping
with the shape of a cross. A cross IS a stake with a crosspiece
in a sense. You have used an argument that has no evidence.
The cross has evidence. You cannot prove your claim.
Someone has misinformed you.
>
> The fiction of the "Easter" resurrection is best
>exemplified by the impossibility of harmonizing the
>contradictory Gospel accounts; and also by Christ's
>own failed prediction that "...the Son of man will be
>three days and three nights in the earth."(Matthew
>12:40). You see, from Friday p.m. to Sunday a.m. is
>one day, one night, and a few hours! And then too,
>please recall the many contradictory Biblical accounts
>of Christ being "..hung from a tree." (Acts 5:30,
>10:39, 13:29, 1 Peter 2:24, etc.).
>
You are counting hours. The Jews did not count hours,
but "daylights". That makes it possible. It does not
matter when on Friday that he died, just that he died on
Friday still in daylight you know because when he died
the sun was darkened by some outside event not by its
having set. So you have daylight on Friday, daylight on
Saturday, and daylight on Sunday.
>
> Earlier gods like Horus of Egypt, Mithra of
>Persia, and Krishna of India had led lives that almost
>exactly paralleled the Biblical Christ's. They also were
>products of immaculate conceptions, had gods for
>fathers, were lowly born, were visited by wise men,
>caused the slaughter of innocents (through sheer
>neglect alone!), worked similar miracles like walking
>on water and curing the sick, were sacrificed for our
>sins, died and were buried, were resurrected, ascended
>into their respective heavens, and so on.
>
They did not raise the dead from a grave after three days
as Jesus did Lazarus. Jesus' miracles left theirs looking
rather pale by comparison. Jesus' fame spread very
fast. The Kings of the East came to visit HIM when he was
born. Those that you list were not resurrected and did not
ascend into heaven.
>
> Unfortunately, the several dozen Filipinos and
>Mexicans who allow themselves to be nailed to crosses
>each Easter will likely never learn of the futility of
>their ordeals.
>
They are giving God what THEY think will please God.
What will please God is for us to follow HIM.
>
> The hold that religion has upon men's minds,
>is not only the worst idea mankind has ever had, it is
>also too powerful, once instituted, to be practically
>overcome or eliminated.
>
You can't go down and buy a kit called "Uninstall"
can you? :) I think that is OK if you understand who
Jesus is. If one does not though, then I guess it would
seem like a vice. Jesus came to set the prisoner free.
>
> For that reason alone, religious holidays and
>ceremonies and celebrations will continue irrespective
>of the depravity, vulgarity, and odious character of
>their respective slanted histories and hateful traditions.
>
Christmas and Easter are the most wonderful glorious
holidays there are. There is nothing at all depraved or
vulgar or odious about them. They teach love and not
hate, you have missed the point.
>
> How sad for humanity!
>
It really is sad for humanity if you have missed the point.
God made you, and he planned something special for
your life. No one can take your place, and no one can
do quite what you could do if you gave yourself to the
Lord and accepted Jesus as your Saviour, and if you would
give your living to him. As Christians we let him live in us
and that is wonderful for the World. Christianity is a place
that you arrive where you will let people see who Jesus is
by your yielding yourself to him to live again in you.
No one can take your place. With Christ living inside of
you and guiding you, you would have more joy at the places
he leads you than you could ever imagine.
>
Suzanne
Nektarios
One correction it is still known as Pasca among all Orthodox regardless of
country e.g. Russia, Greece, Middle East, USA.
nektarios
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This clown is a first class lunatic. I think his real problem is too much
religion and not enough sex. He is as twisted and warped as Jerry Falwell.
Rev. Donald Spitz <David...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<01bf54ba$62c9b620$e7f5f6ce@jtd>...
> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church will celebrate the
greatest
> occurrence in the history of the human race - the resurrection of the
Lord
> Jesus Christ from the dead. This event has been the focus of celebration
in
> churches for almost two thousand years, however, the Christian church
has
pla...@iamerica.net
<David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church... (SNIP)....has
>drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar (Easter).
> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>Resurrection Day.
---------------------------------------
Geeeeezus, watta' 'kill-joy'.....!!
One doesn't have to search too far to recognize
that we're at the beginning of another annual religious
season, right now. Our newspapers are filled with
articles, pictures, advertisements, "how-to" features,
and notices of upcoming "holy" events in celebration
of mythical, fictional, and legendary ancient events.
The Islamic Ramadan has just finished it's run.
And yet, we still have to look forward to a jumble of
'live' passion plays, three-hour services, Passover
seders, requiems, foot washings, sunrise gatherings,
stations of the cross, and so on.
Interestingly enough, Passover, Easter, and
Ramadan are all calculated wholly or in part on the
lunar calendar. Further, they are all off-shoots of
earlier pagan festivals revolving around the Vernal
Equinox, and combine fasting and feasting, and
sacrificing with celebrating.
Looked at more closely however, the current
religious celebrations are in truth both abhorrent and
revolting in consideration of their origins. As an
example, just recall that Passover is a celebration of
the slaughter of the Egyptian innocents that was
orchestrated by the god Yahweh himself. The term
itself honors the 'passing-over' of the Israelite homes
by the destroying god as he went about his grizzly task
of slaughtering millions of the Egyptian first-borns,
both man and beast! To add insult to injury, Yahweh
instructs the soon to depart Israelites to "..despoil the
Egyptians (of their jewelry and clothing!)."(Exodus
12:35-36). Further, no uncircumcised person may
ever partake of the Passover ceremonials (Exodus
12:43-49). [NOTE: Although many might think
that they're celebrating the 'Exodus'.......They're not.
It's the 'Passover' that they're celebrating.]
Surprising.......well, consider also Easter in
the Christian tradition. In the first place, Easter is
derived from the name for Eastre, the Spring goddess,
and is a derivative of Astarte, the Canaanite love
goddess who was widely worshipped in Biblical times.
The Easter season includes a 'Good Friday',
the day upon which a God is tried and killed during
the Jewish Passover (An most unlikely eventuality.).
Death is by means of crucifixion upon the "cross".
Embarrassingly enough, the oldest Greek texts use the
term "stauroos", meaning "impaled upon a stake", the
more typical treatment for common criminals. The
'cross' is a later fiction overlaying (thankfully !) the
image of a 'God-on-a-spit', and hardly an appropriate
totem to place atop houses of worship.
The fiction of the "Easter" resurrection is best
exemplified by the impossibility of harmonizing the
contradictory Gospel accounts; and also by Christ's
own failed prediction that "...the Son of man will be
three days and three nights in the earth."(Matthew
12:40). You see, from Friday p.m. to Sunday a.m. is
one day, one night, and a few hours! And then too,
please recall the many contradictory Biblical accounts
of Christ being "..hung from a tree." (Acts 5:30,
10:39, 13:29, 1 Peter 2:24, etc.).
Earlier gods like Horus of Egypt, Mithra of
Persia, and Krishna of India had led lives that almost
exactly paralleled the Biblical Christ's. They also were
products of immaculate conceptions, had gods for
fathers, were lowly born, were visited by wise men,
caused the slaughter of innocents (through sheer
neglect alone!), worked similar miracles like walking
on water and curing the sick, were sacrificed for our
sins, died and were buried, were resurrected, ascended
into their respective heavens, and so on.
Unfortunately, the several dozen Filipinos and
Mexicans who allow themselves to be nailed to crosses
each Easter will likely never learn of the futility of
their ordeals.
The hold that religion has upon men's minds,
is not only the worst idea mankind has ever had, it is
also too powerful, once instituted, to be practically
overcome or eliminated.
For that reason alone, religious holidays and
ceremonies and celebrations will continue irrespective
of the depravity, vulgarity, and odious character of
their respective slanted histories and hateful traditions.
How sad for humanity!
Paul Duca
Rev. Donald Spitz wrote:
> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church will celebrate the greatest
> occurrence in the history of the human race - the resurrection of the Lord
> Jesus Christ from the dead. This event has been the focus of celebration in
> churches for almost two thousand years, however, the Christian church has
> drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar (Easter).
> The festival to honor the ancient goddess Istar, (Easter), is held
> the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the spring equinox,
> the same date Christians celebrate Easter. The Christians have called
> Resurrection Day, Easter, a transliteration of the word Istar, instead of
> Resurrection Day. Many churches have shifted part of their focus from the
> resurrection of Jesus to Istar (Easter) and to Istar (Easter) eggs and
> Istar (Easter) bunnies, symbols of this fertility goddess. A large number
> of Christian churches now have groups making Istar (Easter) eggs, to sell
> during the festival season of Istar.
> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
> Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
> of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
> Resurrection Day.
>
How about worshipping that movie where Warren Beatty and Dustin
Hoffman portray musicians turning a small Middle Eatstern country upside down?
Paul
Spitzie, I knew it was going to take a while to hear from you--when I
saw that your favorite website has to pay $107 million dollars to the people
it defamed(and probably the survivors of the people it caused to have slain in
cold blood), my first thought was "It's going to take WEEKS of him beating his
wife and screwing his daughters to put Donnie Spitz back togeither again".
James T. Savidge
You might be interested in the following web page.
"Crucifixion in Antiquity"
http://www.centuryone.com/crucifixion2.html
May God lead us to a fuller understanding of His truth and may His peace go
with you.
James T. Savidge, <tsav...@fastlane.net>, Tuesday, March 2, 1999
--
1 Peter 3:8-15
[8] Finally, all of you, have unity of spirit, sympathy, love of the
brethren, a tender heart and a humble mind. [9] Do not return evil for evil
or reviling for reviling; but on the contrary bless, for to this you have
been called, that you may obtain a blessing. [10] For "He that would love
life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from
speaking guile; [11] let him turn away from evil and do right; let him seek
peace and pursue it. [12] For the eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous,
and his ears are open to their prayer. But the face of the Lord is against
those that do evil." [13] Now who is there to harm you if you are zealous
for what is right? [14] But even if you do suffer for righteousness' sake,
you will be blessed. Have no fear of them, nor be troubled, [15] but in
your hearts reverence Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to make a defense
to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it
with gentleness and reverence;
Kimberly Engstrom
Suzanne wrote in message <7bfo1e$1qj$1...@newshost.cyberramp.net>...
>
>pla...@iamerica.net wrote in message
<36db3d8d....@news.iamerica.net>...
>>On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:31:09 GMT, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
>><David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church... (SNIP)....has
>>>drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar
(Easter).
>>
>>> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter
eggs,
>>>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>>>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>>>Resurrection Day.
>>---------------------------------------
>>
>> Geeeeezus, watta' 'kill-joy'.....!!
>>
>Yup, but he had a valid concern if you look within his
>statements that the purity of the celebration of the
>resurrection of the Lord be preserved. For him, that
>may be what is best. We are not all the same people.
>He feels that he wants to preserve the right attitude
>about Easter. For him, the colored Easter eggs and
>Easter bunny are the killjoy. That is OK in my book
>that he makes his point. Each person has to examine
>his motives, is the point.
Kinda sounds like the discussion in Romans 6, doesn't it? *My* faith allows
me to celebrate Easter with eggs, etc. along with things relating to Jesus'
Resurrection. But if I am to celebrate *with one who would stumble* in
their faith because of the eggs, etc. then I should not do so. Isn't that
the point? Loving our brothers and sisters enough to do what would increase
their faith and not what would make them stumble?
Various verses from Romans 6:
1
Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable
matters.
2
One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith
is weak, eats only vegetables.
3
The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the
man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God
has accepted him.
13
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your
mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way
15
If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer
acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ
died.
tribulus
named for a pagan fertility goddess.
P.A.A. wrote in message <36DAE11F...@bmc.com>...
>Using Easter eggs, bunnies, etc is not considered worship. Have you ever
seen
>anybody worshiping the Easter bunny? You people are just too uptight.
>
>Paul
>
>
>"Rev. Donald Spitz" wrote:
>
>> On April 5, 1999, A.D. the Christian Church will celebrate the
greatest
>> occurrence in the history of the human race - the resurrection of the
Lord
>> Jesus Christ from the dead. This event has been the focus of celebration
in
>> churches for almost two thousand years, however, the Christian church
has
>> drifted into the worship of the pagan goddess of fertility, Istar
(Easter).
>> The festival to honor the ancient goddess Istar, (Easter), is held
>> the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the spring
equinox,
>> the same date Christians celebrate Easter. The Christians have called
>> Resurrection Day, Easter, a transliteration of the word Istar, instead
of
>> Resurrection Day. Many churches have shifted part of their focus from the
>> resurrection of Jesus to Istar (Easter) and to Istar (Easter) eggs and
>> Istar (Easter) bunnies, symbols of this fertility goddess. A large
number
>> of Christian churches now have groups making Istar (Easter) eggs, to
sell
>> during the festival season of Istar.
>> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter
eggs,
>> Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>> of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>> Resurrection Day.
>>
Nektarios
to others go.
I beleive there are some who rather than Easter/Pasca causing them to stumble
it is an excuse to stumble - an excuse for division.
Nektarios
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"Kimberly Engstrom" wrote:
(snip)
>Kinda sounds like the discussion in Romans 6, doesn't it? *My* faith allows
>me to celebrate Easter with eggs, etc. along with things relating to Jesus'
>Resurrection. But if I am to celebrate *with one who would stumble* in
>their faith because of the eggs, etc. then I should not do so. Isn't that
>the point? Loving our brothers and sisters enough to do what would increase
>their faith and not what would make them stumble?
(snip)
Loki
<David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>Resurrection Day.
You dolt, Ishtar has nothing to do with Easter, as close as her name
may sound. That honour goes to an Anglo-Saxon goddess named Eostre.
<snip religious crap>
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Loki
<trib...@phnx.uswest.net> wrote:
>A true comment from one that doesn't mind his lord's resurrection being
>named for a pagan fertility goddess.
>
<snip>
The exchange of myths between different socieities is common.
tribulus
Loki wrote in message <36df183e....@news.infi.net>...
>On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:31:09 GMT, "Rev. Donald Spitz"
><David...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I recommend that true Christians divest themselves from Easter eggs,
>>Easter rabbits, Easter bonnets, Easter buns, or any other acknowledgment
>>of the pagan goddess Istar (Easter) and worship only Jesus on April 5,
>>Resurrection Day.
>
>You dolt, Ishtar has nothing to do with Easter, as close as her name
>may sound. That honour goes to an Anglo-Saxon goddess named Eostre.
>
><snip religious crap>
>
Loki
<trib...@phnx.uswest.net> wrote:
>Sorry your wrong billion dollar baby!
Am I? Oh, then I'm sure you'll have no problem proving it.