Water Heater

[Oldus Fartus]

Friday in my timezone, and the LOL moment of the week has to be the
comment that the long discussed water heater finally arrived, was
installed, but was the wrong size for the job, and needs replacing
already.

Now that is out and out hilarious. An extremely interesting thread
about nine months ago in another group gave much information and one
would assume that anyone who took part in the conversation, asked so
many (very sensible) questions, would have retained at least some of
that information.

So Jenn, and hubby, thanks for the laugh of the week.

*Exemption is claimed to the no-mention family rule on the grounds
persons already mentioned in recent threads*

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Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[SeaNymph]

I remember reading that and have to admit that it certainly made me
chuckle. I seem to recall that part of jenn's problem with people
discussing something she brought up was that nobody asked her about the
discussion and that they didn't need any help or information, or
something to that effect. I was unaware of the jenn ruled that stated
posters couldn't post about something she brought up. I guess someone
should have asked if they had bothered to make sure they were ordering
the right thing. LOL

[Oldus Fartus]

SeaNymph formulated the question :

Yes, it was a ROFLMAO moment!

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Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:22:36 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:

> On 3/22/2013 12:21 AM, Oldus Fartus wrote:
>> Friday in my timezone, and the LOL moment of the week has to be the
>> comment that the long discussed water heater finally arrived, was
>> installed, but was the wrong size for the job, and needs replacing
>> already.
>>
>> Now that is out and out hilarious. An extremely interesting thread
>> about nine months ago in another group gave much information and one
>> would assume that anyone who took part in the conversation, asked so
>> many (very sensible) questions, would have retained at least some of
>> that information.
>>
>> So Jenn, and hubby, thanks for the laugh of the week.
>>
>> *Exemption is claimed to the no-mention family rule on the grounds
>> persons already mentioned in recent threads*
>>
> I remember reading that and have to admit that it certainly made me
> chuckle. I seem to recall that part of jenn's problem with people
> discussing something she brought up was that nobody asked her about the
> discussion and that they didn't need any help or information, or
> something to that effect.

From the impression I got, she seemed to be saying that every post in a
thread should be directed to the OP and no one else, or something.

> I was unaware of the jenn ruled that stated
> posters couldn't post about something she brought up.

Unless every post in response was directly addressed solely to her, the
OP.

> I guess someone
> should have asked if they had bothered to make sure they were ordering
> the right thing. LOL

LOL. Yeah.

It's not as if they had no idea of their requirements and therefore the
specs of the equipment to fulfil those requirements.



--
"I grabbed a pile of dust, and holding it up, foolishly asked for as many
birthdays as the grains of dust, I forgot to ask that they be years of
youth. "
-Ovid (Publius Ovidius Naso (20 March 43 BC – AD 17/18))

[Oldus Fartus]

Aardvark presented the following explanation :

> It's not as if they had no idea of their requirements and therefore the
> specs of the equipment to fulfil those requirements.

That was the lol moment for me. The thread on alt.2600 in about June
last year was really helpful, and Jenn asked many sensible questions,
and received some useful answers. It tickled my funnybone to see how
'he who shall remain nameless' so soundly fucked it up!

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Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[Aardvark]

Heh. Her household reminds me of a scene from 'Cool Hand Luke':

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ>

Perhaps she should have that engraved on a plaque and hang it over her
front door, eh?

[SeaNymph]

On 3/22/2013 6:28 AM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:22:36 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:
>
>> On 3/22/2013 12:21 AM, Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>> Friday in my timezone, and the LOL moment of the week has to be the
>>> comment that the long discussed water heater finally arrived, was
>>> installed, but was the wrong size for the job, and needs replacing
>>> already.
>>>
>>> Now that is out and out hilarious. An extremely interesting thread
>>> about nine months ago in another group gave much information and one
>>> would assume that anyone who took part in the conversation, asked so
>>> many (very sensible) questions, would have retained at least some of
>>> that information.
>>>
>>> So Jenn, and hubby, thanks for the laugh of the week.
>>>
>>> *Exemption is claimed to the no-mention family rule on the grounds
>>> persons already mentioned in recent threads*
>>>
>> I remember reading that and have to admit that it certainly made me
>> chuckle. I seem to recall that part of jenn's problem with people
>> discussing something she brought up was that nobody asked her about the
>> discussion and that they didn't need any help or information, or
>> something to that effect.
>
> From the impression I got, she seemed to be saying that every post in a
> thread should be directed to the OP and no one else, or something.

I think she said something about the whole thing was just a reason to
slam her. Never mind that there was some great information offered
about such a process.

>
>> I was unaware of the jenn ruled that stated
>> posters couldn't post about something she brought up.
>
> Unless every post in response was directly addressed solely to her, the
> OP.
>
>> I guess someone
>> should have asked if they had bothered to make sure they were ordering
>> the right thing. LOL
>
> LOL. Yeah.
>
> It's not as if they had no idea of their requirements and therefore the
> specs of the equipment to fulfil those requirements.
>
>
>

It seems that perhaps they did not know their own requirements or the
specs of the equipment :)

[SeaNymph]

Now, here's the thing, it was jenn who brought this whole thing up, who
claimed they didn't need any help or information, and then laid the
whole thing on that other person who lives in her house, claiming it was
all on him and she was female so she didn't really know much about all
that stuff. I mean, I realize that being without hot water in one's
bathroom can be quite an inconvenience, but still...LOL

[Aardvark]

So they either stuck a pin in a random catalogue page or when asked 'What
kind of water heater do you want' replied 'A white one, please'.

So they sent them a white one.

:-)

[OldGringo38]

Google told me the story was bogus. :)

--
OG 38
Just west of nowhere

[Aardvark]

Which is, of course and as you know, wrong, mate. :-)

[FromTheRafters]

Oldus Fartus expressed precisely :

> Friday in my timezone, and the LOL moment of the week has to be the comment
> that the long discussed water heater finally arrived, was installed, but was
> the wrong size for the job, and needs replacing already.

Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
advertisements.

>
> Now that is out and out hilarious. An extremely interesting thread about
> nine months ago in another group gave much information and one would assume
> that anyone who took part in the conversation, asked so many (very sensible)
> questions, would have retained at least some of that information.

In one eye and out the other.

[...]

[FromTheRafters]

After serious thinking Aardvark wrote :

If she had only allowed BD to help, by telling him the model number.

http://bit.ly/X5cLsa

[OldGringo38]

On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
> advertisements.

Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?

[Aardvark]

LOL. I was looking for a USB connector on the other end of that. :-)

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:57:48 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:

> On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
>> advertisements.
>
> Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
> smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?

Is what you colonials refer to as a 'tankless water heater' one into
which cold water flows and out of which issues copious amounts of hot
water at a pre-programmed temperature when a hot tap is opened? If it is,
there's no need for a tank, is there? The hot water's only there when you
need it and it isn't when you don't.

[FromTheRafters]

Aardvark expressed precisely :

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:57:48 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>
>> On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
>>> advertisements.
>>
>> Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
>> smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?
>
> Is what you colonials refer to as a 'tankless water heater' one into
> which cold water flows and out of which issues copious amounts of hot
> water at a pre-programmed temperature when a hot tap is opened? If it is,
> there's no need for a tank, is there? The hot water's only there when you
> need it and it isn't when you don't.

I always just took it to mean that the unit doesn't 'store' hot water.
If *someone* would only fix the stove, she could heat water there -
being careful not to burn it of course.

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:10:35 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:

> Aardvark expressed precisely :
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:57:48 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
>>>> advertisements.
>>>
>>> Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
>>> smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?
>>
>> Is what you colonials refer to as a 'tankless water heater' one into
>> which cold water flows and out of which issues copious amounts of hot
>> water at a pre-programmed temperature when a hot tap is opened? If it
>> is,
>> there's no need for a tank, is there? The hot water's only there when
>> you need it and it isn't when you don't.
>
> I always just took it to mean that the unit doesn't 'store' hot water.

Yes, I got that much, but does it go direct to the tap for as long as the
tap is opened or does it go to an insulated tank elsewhere for storage?
If the heating of the water to the required temperature isn't actuated by
someone opening a hot tap, then does it simply heat the water on a timer
and send it straight to this unspecified storage location?

If it does the latter, it seems to me that such a system is somewhat
antiquated and potentially wasteful of energy.

Energy waste = higher utility bills (apart from wastefully depleting
natural resources).

> If *someone* would only fix the stove, she could heat water there -
> being careful not to burn it of course.

I just hate the smell of burning water. :-)

[OldGringo38]

LOL How fun. :)

[Aardvark]

A question I've been meaning to ask on and off for quite some time- why
do US power plugs have holes in the pins? I could Google for the answer
but can't be arsed.

[OldGringo38]

On 03/22/2013 10:02 AM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:57:48 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>
>> On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
>>> advertisements.
>>
>> Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
>> smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?
>
> Is what you colonials refer to as a 'tankless water heater' one into
> which cold water flows and out of which issues copious amounts of hot
> water at a pre-programmed temperature when a hot tap is opened? If it is,
> there's no need for a tank, is there? The hot water's only there when you
> need it and it isn't when you don't.
>
>
>

That's how they work. I toyed with the idea of an electric one, but
found out the heating elements have not been perfected and go out in 2
years or less.

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:33:32 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:

> On 03/22/2013 10:02 AM, Aardvark wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:57:48 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/22/2013 09:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> Maybe I can help, every time I use Google now I see water heater
>>>> advertisements.
>>>
>>> Have you paused long enough at any of those adds to see that the
>>> smallest thankless gas water heater would fit her needs adequately?
>>
>> Is what you colonials refer to as a 'tankless water heater' one into
>> which cold water flows and out of which issues copious amounts of hot
>> water at a pre-programmed temperature when a hot tap is opened? If it
>> is,
>> there's no need for a tank, is there? The hot water's only there when
>> you need it and it isn't when you don't.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> That's how they work.

So what's with monkey-boi saying it's 40 gallon or whatever? there's no
needcfor storage if the hot water comes as demanded by an open tap.

> I toyed with the idea of an electric one,

Holy shit, George! Do you have any idea of the heat energy (ie KW X time)
you need to instantaneously heat flowing cold water? Electric *isn't* the
way to go. I take it you don't have gas through the pipes in
Marfa?

> but
> found out the heating elements have not been perfected and go out in 2
> years or less.

Not surprising, with the amount of heat they'd be required to put out.

[OldGringo38]

Not sure if I've got you here, but the hole on the male plug is designed
to provide a snug fit when inserted into the female receptacle, kind of
like the little ball-bearing and hole on some extension tube fittings.
There is a sensible reason for everything we do. :) Well maybe not
all the time. <g>

[Aardvark]

I had kind of toyed with that idea, so thanks for confirming that.

> There is a sensible reason for everything we do. :) Well maybe not
> all the time. <g>

Yeah. Like starting wars for control of oil reserves and such. Gotcha,
George.

:-)

[OldGringo38]

Electricity is 99.999 efficient, and I am all electric, gas is available
but I don't use it. I heat my house with a heat-pump and it is very
efficient. I was going to buy a gas TV but decided against it.

[Bear]

Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in
news:kihrht$9am$3...@dont-email.me:

> I was looking for a USB connector on the other end of that. :-)

LOL!

Jax :)
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

[Jenn]

Bear wrote:
> Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in

>> I was looking for a USB connector on the other end of that. :-)
>
> LOL!
>

Don't laugh! He's serious! <smile>

--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

Remember the US was born on war to rid us of BD and his kind, and we
haven't stopped yet. :)

[Aardvark]

My country is well on the way to achieving that end, George. :-)

> and we
> haven't stopped yet. :)

I think we will. 900-odd years of trying to get rid of the fuckers means
we'll deserve a rest. :-)

[Bear]

"Jenn" <therealm...@gmail.com> wrote in news:kihv88$k0g$1@dont-
email.me:

LOLOL!

[SeaNymph]

OMG...that is laugh out loud funny :)

[OldGringo38]

And away we go, the day is off to a fun start. Enjoy SN

[Jenn]

OldGringo38 wrote:

> And away we go, the day is off to a fun start.

It's raining and cold here, but a fun day anyway. :)

--
Jenn

[OldGringo38]

I'm like you, I can make any day a fun day. rain or shine.. :)

[SeaNymph]

Well, so far, so good I think!

[Eagle]

Jenn submitted this idea :

Sometimes I wonder if he is working with all 8 firing.... lol

--
Eagle
Today will be tomorrow sooner than later.

[Jenn]

Eagle wrote:
> Jenn submitted this idea :
>> Bear wrote:
>>> Aardvark <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in
>>
>>>> I was looking for a USB connector on the other end of that. :-)
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>
>> Don't laugh! He's serious! <smile>
>
> Sometimes I wonder if he is working with all 8 firing.... lol

Perhaps we shouldn't make fun of his mental disability? <g>

--
Jenn

[Eagle]

Jenn presented the following explanation :

Na, that would put us on sn's level, and I'm not willing to drop my
standards that low.

--
Eagle
Why were the Indians here first?
They had reservations.

[Aardvark]

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:30:17 -0700, Eagliar wrote:

> Jenn presented the following explanation :

>> [quoted text muted]

>
> Na, that would put us on sn's level, and I'm not willing to drop my
> standards that low.

LOL. PKB of the fucking century, monkey-boi.

Did you ever guess how many 'terrorists' and 'murderers' there are in the
whole picture simply from seeing this section? (and which I freely give
to you to use as you wish):

<http://imageshack.us/a/img546/9711/1614425.jpg>

Your guess is awaited with bated breath and eager anticipation, monkey-
boi.

[FromTheRafters]

Aardvark formulated on Friday :

I'm not going to look it up either.

They don't *all* have them, and I suspect it is more of a manufacturing
artifact than a standard of any kind. Maybe the little metal pieces are
hung on a wire for the electroplating or acid baths?

[Aardvark]

Hmmmm. The pins on our plugs are made of what looks like brass in solid
form, or at least some copper alloy or amalgam. No holes, though. I have
a laptop upstairs with a US plug on the end of the lead and those pins
have holes (that's what first gave me cause to wonder) but it's plugged
into an adaptor to go into our power sockets.

The idea that OG had, that it's for positive attachment to some ball and
spring mechanism within the wall socket seems quite feasible, IMO.

[OldGringo38]

2 flat pieces of metal Pos & Neg placed together will spark and become
hot, but I had to go look it up to see what I could find and here it is:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060814215550AAsstuj

[OldGringo38]

2 flat pieces of metal Pos & Neg placed together will spark and become
hot, but I had to go look it up to see what I could find and here it is:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060814215550AAsstuj

PS: FTR seems to have a lot of knowledge obtained from extensive reading.

[FromTheRafters]

Aardvark was thinking very hard :

Yeah, we also have folded brasslike prongs with a partially punched
indent that likely functions the same way.

Is anybody actually reading the jennicam group?

[FromTheRafters]

It happens that OldGringo38 formulated :

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/579/why-are-there-holes-in-the-prongs-of-electrical-plugs

[Aardvark]

Haven't you ever looked inside a power socket (not plumbed in, of course)
to see the internal mechanical gubbins? Pulled the thing to pieces?

> Is anybody actually reading the jennicam group?

Yup. I check it out at least once a day, FTR.

[Aardvark]

Lots of believable theories, but it seems that, on balance, FTR's
explanation is the more feasible- they're just there for who really knows
what.

Thanks, chaps. :-)

[Oldus Fartus]

On 23/03/2013 6:37 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> They don't *all* have them, and I suspect it is more of a manufacturing
> artifact than a standard of any kind. Maybe the little metal pieces are
> hung on a wire for the electroplating or acid baths?

Maybe the manufacturers use the little round pieces punched out for
other purposes .. Just as the little pieces of skin removed during
circumcisions may be used when eyelids need replacing.

Hey, it's just a theory anyway :)

--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[Aardvark]

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:52:31 +0800, Oldus Fartus wrote:

> On 23/03/2013 6:37 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> They don't *all* have them, and I suspect it is more of a manufacturing
>> artifact than a standard of any kind. Maybe the little metal pieces are
>> hung on a wire for the electroplating or acid baths?
>
> Maybe the manufacturers use the little round pieces punched out for
> other purposes .. Just as the little pieces of skin removed during
> circumcisions may be used when eyelids need replacing.
>

Trouble is, as soon as you see a pretty girl, your eyes swell shut. :-)

> Hey, it's just a theory anyway :)

See above re 'fly in the ointment', mate. :-)

[Aardvark]

Could always try clockwork or steam TV, George.

[OldGringo38]

Next time I go to the moon I'll pick one up.

[Oldus Fartus]

Dustin submitted this idea :
> "Jenn" <therealm...@gmail.com> wrote in news:kii40r$ls2$1@dont-
> email.me:

>
>> Perhaps we shouldn't make fun of his mental disability? <g>
>

> You're in no position to crack on anyone else mental disability. The two
> of you (you and hubby) managed to do exactly as I predicted. Fuckup the
> installation of a water heater. Kudos to you, ignoramous.
>
> Anyone can install them.. Isn't that what you said? so.. how DID that
> workout for you, Jenn? Usually, anyone gets the right part to be
> installed.. :)

LOL

IAWTP

--
Cheers
Oldus Fartus

[Jax]

Dustin <cowards....@raidsplace.com> wrote in
news:XnsA191E6EC59FC7B7Z317AGDTEHHI8AJ283@no:

> "Jenn" <therealm...@gmail.com> wrote in news:kii40r$ls2$1@dont-
> email.me:
>

>> Perhaps we shouldn't make fun of his mental disability? <g>
>

> You're in no position to crack on anyone else mental disability. The two
> of you (you and hubby) managed to do exactly as I predicted. Fuckup the
> installation of a water heater. Kudos to you, ignoramous.
>
> Anyone can install them.. Isn't that what you said? so.. how DID that
> workout for you, Jenn? Usually, anyone gets the right part to be
> installed.. :)

Dustin in your hate filled rage you missed the true story. Here it is for
you.....

Jenn's partner fitted a water heater. It works fine.

That's it!

I bet you wish the solar panels you fit worked as well. Never mind. Once you
get thru your solar panel apprenticeship you might have more success. Just
saying.

--
Jax

[Jax]

Dustin <cowards....@raidsplace.com> wrote in
news:XnsA1926C44DFB45B7Z317AGDTEHHI8AJ283@no:

> Jax <do.not.remove...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:XnsA1928BD8...@130.225.254.104:

>>
>> Dustin in your hate filled rage you missed the true story. Here it is
>> for you.....
>>
>> Jenn's partner fitted a water heater. It works fine.
>

> The 3rd try it does. :) Jenns partner didn't even purchase the correct
> one for the first time around. Nor was it properly installed; hence,
> leaks.

Dustin if it was the wrong heater then maybe it was ordered from you and you
sent the wrong item because you had been taking horse stimultants. Do you
deny it?

>> That's it!
>
> Those details help. :)

>
>> I bet you wish the solar panels you fit worked as well. Never mind.
>> Once you get thru your solar panel apprenticeship you might have more
>> success. Just saying.
>

> The solar modules we installed came online the first time. Nobody took
> the wrong measurements or ordered the wrong parts. No, the solar array
> was a professional installation; not a do it yourself on a weekend. :)

So you say. Do you have contact details for any satisfied customers so we
can verify your story? Just asking!

--
Jax :)

[Jax]

Dustin <cowards....@raidsplace.com> wrote in
news:XnsA192722896ADEB7Z317AGDTEHHI8AJ283@no:

> Jax <do.not.remove...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:XnsA192942C...@130.225.254.104:

>
>> So you say. Do you have contact details for any satisfied customers so
>> we can verify your story? Just asking!
>

> My word is sufficient for you.
>
> Btw, Did you ask billy about the condoms and colleges?

Dustin go and ask him yourself. You've got his number. I've never seen Billy
Bear Bottoms.

I get the feeling he makes a formidable enemy..... it should be interesting
to watch him handle you. :)

--
Jax