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Patrick & Cathy Moore

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Apr 29, 2001, 10:32:17 AM4/29/01
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This is a transcript of the segment of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" where
Jello goes head-to-head with Tipper Gore.

THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW (3/7/90)

GUESTS: JELLO BIAFRA, TIPPER GORE, RABBI ABRAHAM COOPER, JUAN WILLIAMS.
ICE-T, NELSON GEORGE

ABBREVIATIONS:
JB-Jello Biafra
OW-Oprah Winfrey
TG-Tipper Gore

OW:...Jello Biafra was taken to court a couple of years ago, uh, for the
album "Frankenchrist" by the Dead Kennedys.

JB: Well, what we're seeing here is, what I see is a false controversy.
It's rap music and rock music, it's being cast as a "Willie Horton"
poltergeist type figure in order to advance the agenda of the religious
right backers of Tipper Gore's organization, the PMRC. (Gore laughs)

In my case, I can relate to NWA's song about the police, because after
my record, "Frankenchrist" was blasted by Susan Baker and the PMRC in
"Variety", two weeks later, nine police officers, three from LA, six
from San Francisco, broke a window by my front door, stormed into my
house, tore the place apart, like you'd see KGB people do in a TV movie
or something, went through my address book, page by page, comparing
names, while I sat there on a chair with a bathrobe on with two cops
with their jackets zipped right up to about here, so they might be
packing a gun, circling around me like sharks. It was a subtle form of
rape, in a way.

And then, after a year...about...what was it? Two months later, charges
were filed against my record. A year and a half later, it finally came
to trial. Three weeks, sitting in a courtroom in Los Angeles, watching
lawyers argue over not just the supposedly explicit insert by an
academy-award winning artist from Switzerland, my lyrics were put on
trial. A huge blowup was brought in, and was gone over by experts, line
by line.

In the end, the jury did not agree with the allegations of the PMRC.
They deadlocked 7-5 in favor of acquittal. But after the trial, in a
paper called the "Metro" in Nashville, Tennessee,
Tipper Gore was asked about my trial, and said, quote, "I'd like to take
credit for it".

(to Gore) I accuse you of trying to destroy my career and ruin my right
to make a living. (audience cheers)

TG: No...

JB: And... and for being... operating as a front for people like Jesse
Helms, Phyllis Schafly in order to drive the arch-conservative wedge
into the mainstream. Rabbi Cooper, if you think Public Enemy's got
problems against Jews, wait till you meet the organization endorsed in
Tipper Gore's book, like the "Back In Control" center. (audience
applause) The "Back In Control" center is a group of cops from, I
believe, Orange County, who send manuals to police departments and to
parents claiming that, among other things, the Jewish Star is a symbol
for satan, that high-top tennis shoes and black clothing could be a sign
that your child might be turning to heavy metal and should therefore be
deprogrammed.

If a kid shoplifts or becomes involved in a gang, then, well, it must be
the music's fault.

TG: It is.

JB: To me, practicing fraud like that to the point where doctors who
used your video in a Milwaukee hospital told a kid who was treated...
came in to be treated for clinical depression that his Iron Maiden
T-shirt was the problem, that, to me is the real child abuse. (audience
applauds)

OW (over applause): Tipper, Tipper, let's just...

TG: Thank you. First of all, that's a very bizarre rendition of what my
group is about. We are not right-wing fundamentalists. I happen to be a
liberal democrat. We have two...

JB: Then why do you speak at Phyllis Schafly functions?

TG: Excuse me, I--I--....

OW: Okay, one at a time.

TG: Excuse me...it's simply not true. I happen to be a liberal democrat,
I work with republicans and democrats on this issue. We have one
coalition with the National PTA, who advanced the idea of record
labeling so parents would be alerted when there was graphic material.

OW: I'd love to help, because I don't know if that helps or hurts,
because I think kids, when they see the label, they want it even more.

TG: Let me say this...

JB: There's something much worse than that though...

TG: Oprah...Oprah, he's leveled a lot of charges. We're also supported
by the American Academy of Pediatrics, why? Why are parents and teachers
and doctors concerned about graphic lyrics and young children? There's a
reason for it and a way to deal with that...with respect for freedom. We
had nothing to do with the problems that you had. We want to educate...

JB: You tried to take credit for it!

TG: We want to educate...that was not an accurate quote!

JB: All right, I'll pull it out for you. It's right here. (audience
applauds)

TG (over applause) Have you ever been misquoted by somebody?

JB: What kind of an example are you setting for your own children when
you lie on national television? (further applause)

TG: I am not lying!

JB: Right here!

TG: Excuse me! This is not...

JB: (reads from article) "What about Jello Biafra's obscenity trial?"
Quote, "I mean, I'd like to take credit for that".

OW: But it doesn't mean she said it.

TG: It's true, thank you!

OW: Believe me, because it's written doesn't mean she said it.

TG: That's right. You can be...I've been misquoted, I'm sure you've been
misquoted too, but that is not the real issue here.

Nicole

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Apr 29, 2001, 6:26:52 PM4/29/01
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Patrick & Cathy Moore <pmo...@intop.net> wrote in message
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> This is a transcript of the segment of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" where
> Jello goes head-to-head with Tipper Gore.
>
(cut)
This is terrific. thanks for posting. - N.
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***************
Nicole
"Don't hate the media; BECOME THE MEDIA." - Jello Biafra
http://www.indymedia.org/
http://www.michaelmoore.com/

Grumpysmurf

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Apr 30, 2001, 2:02:59 AM4/30/01
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Isn't there any more?
Late,
Grumpysmurf

Patrick & Cathy Moore

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Apr 30, 2001, 11:18:52 PM4/30/01
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Grumpysmurf wrote:

> Isn't there any more?

Undoubtedly, there is. That was all I had in a sound file. If anyone can add
to it, please do so,


Finster

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Apr 30, 2001, 11:33:53 PM4/30/01
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yeah! I would love to hear what Juan Williams, Ice-T and Nelson George had to
say and maybe even Abraham Cooper.

In article <3aecfffc....@news.mindspring.com>, grmp...@hotmail.com
(Grumpysmurf) wasted the classes time with:

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KarmaFuzzz

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May 2, 2001, 5:10:21 AM5/2/01
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fidel_finster@stick_from_your_asshotmail.com (Finster) queried:

>yeah! I would love to hear what Juan Williams, Ice-T and Nelson George
>had to say and maybe even Abraham Cooper.

Oprah sells official transcripts apparently:

http://www.burrelles.com/transcripts/syndicated/oprah.html
<text from page:>

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Transcripts of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" are available from Burrelle's.
Transcripts cost $5.00 each.

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Burrelle's does not encourage sending credit card numbers via the Internet at
this time. Instead, orders may also be sent to our America Online account
(burr...@aol.com).

apparenlty, tapes aren't available (at least through the official oprah
sources).

>grmp...@hotmail.com (Grumpysmurf) wasted the classes time with:
>>Isn't there any more?
>>Late,
>> Grumpysmurf
>>

Lemming

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May 2, 2001, 10:09:34 AM5/2/01
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KarmaFuzzz <karma...@aol.commoosfart> wrote in message
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> fidel_finster@stick_from_your_asshotmail.com (Finster) queried:
> >yeah! I would love to hear what Juan Williams, Ice-T and Nelson
George
> >had to say and maybe even Abraham Cooper.
>
> Oprah sells official transcripts apparently:
>
> http://www.burrelles.com/transcripts/syndicated/oprah.html
> <text from page:>
>
> "The Oprah Winfrey Show" Transcripts Available from Burrelle's
>
> Transcripts of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" are available from
Burrelle's.
> Transcripts cost $5.00 each.

That's a rip-off, man.


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KarmaFuzzz

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May 3, 2001, 9:02:19 AM5/3/01
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"Lemming" <lem...@grandtheftcyber.comREMOVETHIS> writes:

>KarmaFuzzz <karma...@aol.commoosfart> wrote:
>> fidel_finster@stick_from_your_asshotmail.com (Finster) queried:
>> >yeah! I would love to hear what Juan Williams, Ice-T and Nelson
>> >George had to say and maybe even Abraham Cooper.
>>
>> Oprah sells official transcripts apparently:
>>
>> http://www.burrelles.com/transcripts/syndicated/oprah.html
>> <text from page:>
>>
>> "The Oprah Winfrey Show" Transcripts Available from Burrelle's
>>
>> Transcripts of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" are available from
>> Burrelle's. Transcripts cost $5.00 each.
>
>That's a rip-off, man.

well, i wouldn't pay it. but if someone wants to, let 'em. there are far worse
rip offs. like, say, everything else for sale via the oprah website. hopefully
someone has a better way (a tape the made when the show aired originally, or
whatever), but if not, this is available for people who want the whole show.
considering it's probably 48-50 minutes of actual show, and jello certainly
talks fast, and none of the rest of them are slouches in that department, so it
might be a good 100-130 pages. plus shipping. so really, only $2 of that $5 is
probably profit, which for OprahInc is a pretty narrow margin.

i was kinda surprised that they didn't even have the more recent show
transcripts available somehow online, even by a subscription service (though i
wasn't that you couldn't get this particular, 11 year old show that way). oh
well.

you could always find someone who likes you and is a lawyer, and see if he/she
can get Oprah's people to just send one under the guise that it may be
evidentiary, though i don't know what grounds you could pull out of your ass to
do that.

Benny Ramone

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May 3, 2001, 5:00:30 PM5/3/01
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my response at bottom.

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:32:17 -0500, a certain someone named Patrick & Cathy Moore
<pmo...@intop.net> typed up this post that I will now respond to:

First off, thanks for posting this! This was great. I got shocked when I read the part
about the Milwaukee hospital. I'm amazed to think that those doctors could say that an
Iron Maiden t-shirt is the source of clinical depression. Just amazed. The part with Jello
shoving Tipper's quote right in her face was awesome. And then Tipper has the balls to say
that if a kid is in a gang, its the MUSIC'S fault! Wow. Its not the music, its the
surroundings. I haven't heard of many suburban, country-esque kids who are in gangs.
However, its different in the city... And if Tipper thinks it's the music's fault for
everything, then its music's fault I have a better knowledge of the world and involved in
politics....

thanks again,

ben
ben
"Well you'll work harder
With a gun in your back
For a bowl of rice a day
Slave for soldiers
Till You Starve
While you're head is skewered on a stake"
-Dead Kennedys, ~Holiday In Cambodia~
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Mr. Yak Milk

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May 6, 2001, 10:52:37 AM5/6/01
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Good work, Patrick.
Once again, you've added to history.
At least that's my take on it. I'll
bet after the Oprah show (I have a friend
by the way, whose mom insists on calling
her Oopra) many people such as followers
of Tipper "money grubbing" Whore wished
to downplay that whole thing the best
they could. That's probably why there'd
be a lack of transcript availability.


I have one last thought about all this.
Patrick's probably way too humble to
tell anyone he has some great writings
about school violence in a Cyber-Comic
book at:

http://www.freespeech.org/kokopeli/latuff/violence.html

s/
marco

Carlos the Jackal

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May 19, 2001, 7:47:44 AM5/19/01
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Patrick & Cathy Moore <pmo...@intop.net> wrote in message news:<3AEC25EE...@intop.net>...

> This is a transcript of the segment of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" where
> Jello goes head-to-head with Tipper Gore.
>
> THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW (3/7/90)

Thanks for that. 1990? Where did the time go? I saw this on UK TV back
then and a friend of mine has been kicking me every since cos I taped
over the show. Now I can mail him the script. So cheers big time!

Ilich Ramirez Sanchez
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