Train Errors in Octopussy
Danny B
of railway-related errors.
1) All of the carriages on Octopussy's circuis train are British
2) When Bond knocks over the barrels, the locomotive seen in the background
is British
3) What an amazing coicidence that the Mercedes' wheels fit the tracks,
especially when you consider that the average wheelbase width on a car is
four feet, and that the track width used in Germany is 4 feet 81/2 inches
4) The locomotive that send's Bond's car into the lake is British, but it
has had a headlight put on the front of it to make it look British
5) Trains use a Westinghouse braking system, which requires constant
pressure through the brake lines to keep the brakes _off_. This is designed
so that if there is a break in the brake line, then the entire train will
come screeching to a stop. However, when Gobinda cuts the brake line, the
train keeps going.
Till Neumann
Danny B schrieb/wrote
> To a trainhead like me, the train chase sequence in Octopussy is just full
> of railway-related errors.
the whole film is full of errors, not only the railway-related scenes
:-)
> 1) All of the carriages on Octopussy's circuis train are British
Well, we had this subject several times on de.etc.bahn.historisch
(dealing with railways and their historical background). Agreement
there was that the train was quite "continental" looking because the
Nene Valley RR where this was filmed has quite a collection of
classical "continental" cars. I must admit though I'd consider myself
somewhat of a railway buff I never got into the finer details of the
cars, so I cannot really comment on this. Looked ok and colourful
enough for a privately-owned circus train to me.
The engine marked 62 015 (which is the number of a real,
still-existing Deutsche Reichsbahn loco from the 62 series) is in fact
a Danish S-740 made to look like the German one. Quite successfully,
except for the little snow-plough-like gadgets meant to clear the
tracks in front of the first axle (I don't know what the official term
is in English). Those are typically Danish.
> 3) What an amazing coicidence that the Mercedes' wheels fit the tracks,
> especially when you consider that the average wheelbase width on a car is
> four feet, and that the track width used in Germany is 4 feet 81/2 inches
The Russians have a wider track on their railways. Maybe they also
have a wider track on their Mercedes... No, in fact you're wrong about
the wheelbase width on the car. The present MB E-class for instance
has 1559 millimeters, so the old 1970s S-class may well have been
somewhere around the 1435 millimeters which equal 4 ft 8 1/2 in.
> 5) Trains use a Westinghouse braking system, which requires constant
> pressure through the brake lines to keep the brakes _off_. This is designed
> so that if there is a break in the brake line, then the entire train will
> come screeching to a stop. However, when Gobinda cuts the brake line, the
> train keeps going.
Yes, but doesn't it make for a whole lot more action and suspense the
other way round :-)?
Till
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Bondee
> has had a headlight put on the front of it to make it look British
Huh?
It *is* British but it's had a headlight put on the front to make it *look*
British?
Typo?
Vince
<bo...@KILLSPAMbag-of-noses.co.uk> writes:
>
>And the level crossing has British signals!
>
Ok lets not get railroaded over this.
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Vince
<tbd...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>To a trainhead like me, the train chase sequence in Octopussy is just full
>of railway-related errors.
>
Very good Danny. As a photographer I always look for photo errors on TV shows
and in movies and as a computer person for over thirty years ditto.
Don't you love all these different operating systems they use and oh please
that SPIKE nonsense in GE? C'mon.
Had to laugh in the pilot for WOO's TV show "Once a Thief" the top secret data
was on a 3 1/2 standard diskette, not a CD, hellooo in 2002?
Peter Morris
"Till Neumann" <spam...@neubrich.de> wrote in message
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> Hi Danny,
>
> Danny B schrieb/wrote
> > To a trainhead like me, the train chase sequence in Octopussy is just
full
> > of railway-related errors.
>
> the whole film is full of errors, not only the railway-related scenes
> :-)
I particularly like the way Rog changes into clown costume and
makeup in about 30 seconds.
dan_gale
And what about the English actor they used to play James Bond, a character
raised in Scotland, born in Germany (read John Pearson's James Bond: A
Biography) For shame. :)
Vince <holvb...@cs.com> wrote in message
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Mike Edwards
with bits of fibreglass stuck on them to drag their mobile missile trains
around during the cold war.....
Mike
(No, not an anorak. The engine and driver are from a local museum, and were
in the local paper when it was being filmed. OK, perhaps a bit of an
anorak.).
"Danny B" <tbd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jay Vonbriel
said:
>To a trainhead like me, the train chase sequence in Octopussy is just full
>of railway-related errors.
>
This just really goes to show you that you can't please an expert in a
certain topic. If Octopussy were meant to be a documentary on trains,
you'd have a beef. But to expect the producers to find Russian
trains..etc just to please those small number of train fans that see
the film is unrealistic.
I think the worse errors are the ones you don't need to be an expert
to see. Those are less excusable. However, people who are experts
tend to love to flout their knowledge by getting disgruntled over
small things. Guess it makes them feel superior.
jay
gonzo
> of railway-related errors.
>
> 1) All of the carriages on Octopussy's circuis train are British
abroad when we got rid of steam.
> 2) When Bond knocks over the barrels, the locomotive seen in the
background
> is British
> 3) What an amazing coicidence that the Mercedes' wheels fit the tracks,
> especially when you consider that the average wheelbase width on a car is
> four feet, and that the track width used in Germany is 4 feet 81/2 inches
along a train line if needs be.
> 4) The locomotive that send's Bond's car into the lake is British, but it
> has had a headlight put on the front of it to make it look British
> 5) Trains use a Westinghouse braking system, which requires constant
> pressure through the brake lines to keep the brakes _off_. This is
designed
> so that if there is a break in the brake line, then the entire train will
> come screeching to a stop. However, when Gobinda cuts the brake line, the
> train keeps going.
cheers
james
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makeup in about 30 seconds.
The thing that got me was not how fast he changed, but the fact that he changed into EXACTLY the same clown outfit as the "00" that was killed in the opening! What? Does the "00" section have a training section on how to turn yourself into a clown, should the occasion warrant?