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Kees-Jan Dankers

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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I've just watching GoldenEye, the superb comeback of a Bond-film. I have two
questions. How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain. Xenia races
with Bond. Later Bond meets her again in the casino in Monte Carlo. After
that Xenia goes out with an Admiral. And Bond asks Moneypenny about the
information about Xenia Onatopp. Does Bond everything he meets ask some
information to Moneypenny?
And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
Tiger.


Chris Miller

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Kees-Jan Dankers wrote:
>
> I've just watching GoldenEye, the superb comeback of a Bond-film. I have two
> questions. How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain. Xenia races
> with Bond. Later Bond meets her again in the casino in Monte Carlo. After
> that Xenia goes out with an Admiral. And Bond asks Moneypenny about the
> information about Xenia Onatopp. Does Bond everything he meets ask some
> information to Moneypenny?

He probably recognized her from a file photograph.

> And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
> goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
> Tiger.

Yes.

Icebreaker

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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On Sun, 30 May 1999 19:53:14 +0200, "Kees-Jan Dankers"
<k.dank...@planetinternet.be> wrote:

>I've just watching GoldenEye, the superb comeback of a Bond-film. I have two
>questions. How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain. Xenia races
>with Bond. Later Bond meets her again in the casino in Monte Carlo. After
>that Xenia goes out with an Admiral. And Bond asks Moneypenny about the
>information about Xenia Onatopp. Does Bond everything he meets ask some
>information to Moneypenny?

The license plate on her Ferarri was counterfeit (illegal; bogus;
fake). Bond's "sixth sense" kicked in when he saw Xenia with the
Admiral.


>And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
>goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
>Tiger.

Yes, Boris knew when to go outside. He was in on the plan from the
beginning.
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Anthony Peacock

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Bond notices that Xenia's Ferrari 355 has fake number plates. Didn't you
listen to their conversation in the casino?
Also as pointed out in the casino scene it is very unusual to see a 'Soviet'
driving around Europe in such an expensive car.
Bond as an MI6 agent would have regular assignments concerning Russian Mafia
and was just following up his suspicions in doing a check on ID with base.

Hopefully this clears up the confusion!


Jeremy Kareken

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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Anthony Peacock <A.M.P...@brad.ac.uk> wrote:
: Also as pointed out in the casino scene it is very unusual to see a 'Soviet'

: driving around Europe in such an expensive car.

Well... I see you haven't seen Russians whenever they get money. Dear
GOD, the things they spend them on. Cars, jewelry, food... yeesh. Spendy
people.


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Lt Squires

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May 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/30/99
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>Well... I see you haven't seen Russians whenever they get money. Dear
>GOD, the things they spend them on. Cars, jewelry, food... yeesh. Spendy
>people.

huh? I thought Xenia was Georgian myself.

StrykerBC

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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>How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain.

She was a former pilot with the Ruskies' air force, they probably had a file on
her already.

>And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
>goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
>Tiger.

He was in on it, remember? He knew they were coming, and they probably told
him to go outside when they came to avoid being killed.


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StrykerBC

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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>huh? I thought Xenia was Georgian myself.

Georgian, Russian, what's the difference? ;-)

Both ex-Soviet nations

Jeremy Kareken

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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Lt Squires <ltsq...@aol.com> wrote:
: >Well... I see you haven't seen Russians whenever they get money. Dear

: >GOD, the things they spend them on. Cars, jewelry, food... yeesh. Spendy
: >people.

: huh? I thought Xenia was Georgian myself.

Naw... then she'd have a name like Schrvvedzardandzilveskavse

Or Bubba. Depending on the kind of Georgian.

RMS-MarionS

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Am 31 May 1999 03:15:24 GMT schrieb stry...@aol.comNOSPAM
(StrykerBC) :

>>How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain.
>
>She was a former pilot with the Ruskies' air force, they probably had a file on
>her already.

Of course they did! Why else did Bond get the order to have "no
contact"? They know his sort of "contact", but I wonder if they knew
how dangerous it would have been for him? I think not. Bond was rather
surprised, when he at least got his "contact" in the bath<g>.

MarionS
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Justin Headley

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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if she was russian, she'd be called Dimitri Ivanov


Jeremy Kareken wrote:

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Peredur Glyn

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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In the ancient parchments of <375196b...@news.mindspring.com>, the
one known as Icebreaker <icebr...@mindspring.com> wrote something
vaguely similar to this:

>The license plate on her Ferarri was counterfeit (illegal; bogus;
>fake). Bond's "sixth sense" kicked in when he saw Xenia with the
>Admiral.

How is this ascertained? Merely because the licence plate begins with
the wrong letter? Hasn't Bond heard of personalised plates?

Yours,

Peredur.

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RMS-MarionS

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Am Mon, 31 May 1999 09:39:45 +0100 schrieb Peredur Glyn
<per...@llonnod.demon.co.uk> :

>How is this ascertained? Merely because the licence plate begins with
>the wrong letter? Hasn't Bond heard of personalised plates?

Perhaps they're not usual in Monaco?
In Germany for example the code always starts with the city the plate
is licensed in. With a bit luck you can get the next two letters and
the numbers like you want them. Really personalized plates do not
exist. Just the Bundeswehr vehicle plates always begin with a Y.

Brian Buchanan

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May 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/31/99
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Kees-Jan Dankers wrote:

> I've just watching GoldenEye, the superb comeback of a Bond-film. I have two
> questions. How did Bond know that Xenia Onatopp is a vallain. Xenia races
> with Bond. Later Bond meets her again in the casino in Monte Carlo. After
> that Xenia goes out with an Admiral. And Bond asks Moneypenny about the
> information about Xenia Onatopp. Does Bond everything he meets ask some
> information to Moneypenny?

> And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
> goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
> Tiger.

Because Bond gets paid to know these matters. A hot chick leaving with an old
broken down love starved admiral is suspicious enough, after all what would she
see in him?


Mac

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Jun 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/1/99
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Chris Stone wrote:

> I have never seen a personalized plate in Europe. From the context of your
> message, I guess they have them in the UK now, but do they have them in
> France?

Didn't UK resident Simon Templar have a personalized plate in 1961?


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Mac

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Jun 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/1/99
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Mac wrote:

> Chris Stone wrote:
>
> > I have never seen a personalized plate in Europe. From the context of your
> > message, I guess they have them in the UK now, but do they have them in
> > France?
>
> Didn't UK resident Simon Templar have a personalized plate in 1961?

Or 1962?

Dany Burigana

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Jun 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/1/99
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Chris Stone a écrit :

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> I have never seen a personalized plate in Europe. From the context of your
> message, I guess they have them in the UK now, but do they have them in
> France?

First, Monaco is not France.

And, in France, plates are like XXXX AA YY where :
XXXX is a 3 or 4-digit numer (depending on the length of the following
item)
AA is a 2 or 3-letter thing (if AA is 2-letter then XXXX is 4-digit)
YY stands for the number of the department the car is licensed in. You
have no influence on it.

XXXX AA is the real license number. For example, the "number" following
9999 ST is 1 SU. You get the idea. When, for a given dept, we reach 9999
ZZ, then it's 1 AAA. And at 999 AAA, then it's 1 AAB, etc... easy, no ?

With this system, it's hard to get a personalized plate number. You have
to wait for your favourite 2 or 3-letter combination to arrive (if it's
ZEN, then you'd better ride a bicycle...). But we hear it's rather easy
to negotiate a given number. And it's even said that cops refrain from
putting fines on "special" numbers like 100, 500 or 1000, because they
usually belong to people influent enough to get the number they want.
Then again, it could be a rumor...

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RMS-MarionS

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Am Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:30:45 +0100 schrieb Mac
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>> Didn't UK resident Simon Templar have a personalized plate in 1961?

ST 1. Lord Brett Sinclair had BS 1 in 1971. Cubby Broccoli had
anything with "Cubi".

Levi Ramsey

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And a Canadian to boot! ;-)


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Domino6242

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>> And did Boris Grishenko know that Xenia and Ourumov will come, because he
>> goes exactly the moment outside while Xenia and Ourumov just come with the
>> Tiger.
>
>Yes.

What I've always wondered is if the Tiger helicopter is a two seater how did
Boris get out of the area in time.

Domino

Gérard Morvan

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Chris Stone a écrit:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
> Peredur Glyn wrote in message ...


> >In the ancient parchments of <375196b...@news.mindspring.com>, the
> >one known as Icebreaker <icebr...@mindspring.com> wrote something
> >vaguely similar to this:
>
> >>The license plate on her Ferarri was counterfeit (illegal; bogus;
> >>fake). Bond's "sixth sense" kicked in when he saw Xenia with the
> >>Admiral.
>

> >How is this ascertained? Merely because the licence plate begins with
> >the wrong letter? Hasn't Bond heard of personalised plates?
>

> I have never seen a personalized plate in Europe. From the context of your
> message, I guess they have them in the UK now, but do they have them in
> France?

Not as far as I know. French license plates, in general, follow the same
pattern: up to four digits, two letters, and then the number of teh departement
the car is registered in (example: 5468 PQ 75). There are exceptions, of course
(some letters are used for special purposes, like WW, which means that the car
is a brand new one, waiting for its definitive license number), but I've never
heard of personalized plates.

Gérard Morvan


Levi Ramsey

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Domino6242 wrote in message <19990601205538...@ng34.aol.com>...

>What I've always wondered is if the Tiger helicopter is a two seater how
did
>Boris get out of the area in time.


He didn't leave in the helicopter. As long as he was away from anything
with an electric circuit, the EMP would have _no_ effect.

Antony Espindola

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Jun 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/2/99
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"Gérard Morvan" wrote:
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> There are exceptions, of course (some letters are
> used for special purposes, like WW, which means that
> the car is a brand new one, waiting for its definitive
> license number), but I've never heard of personalized
> plates.

Didn't Bond spot the car because the registration
was too *new* for the model of the car?
Although we can have personalised plates here in
the UK, you cannot transfer a newer registration
than the year of manufacture of the car.

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The Shadow

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Chris Stone wrote :
>I know, but didn't Bond say that Xenia's car was registered in France
(i.e.,
>"the French registration plates for this year...")?


Yes

Bernie Hanssen

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Jun 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/3/99
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The Shadow wrote:


"A tip for your friend: the French registration plates for this year's
model begin with the letter L. Even the counterfeit ones." --James
Bond, to Xenia Onatopp in GE--


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