Brosnan quitting Bond
Whitney67
I do like him as Bond. But I understand his fears about continuing the role.
Who do you think will be next to fill Bonds shoes?
Bob Foster
It makes so much sense to him
How many times did Rog say he was quitting - after Moonraker was the first
time !
I have put it out on this ng before (and this goes some way to support my
theory) that I believe Brosnan will make Bond 20 then hold out for more
spondulees -make Bond 21 - then quit. Irish Dreamtime (his production
Company) will be making blockbusters of it`s own by then and Brosnan will be
(presumably) producing and directing his own films by then -with no need to
be back at Pinewood for 6 months out of 24 -plus all the promotion work
which is involved.
Mark My Words
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Zeki
Why didn't he wait with the announcement untill after TWINE has been in
released.?
Theres a lot of people out there who are just about getting used to seeing
Brosnan as Bond- now they have to get used to thought that someone else will
take over?
Isn't there one in this entire world of spoiled actors who actually has an
urge for breaking Moores 7-movie record?
All this 'Im afraid of being typecasted' is crap. Either your are James
Bond- or not, and Brosnan certainly isn't Connery...
The same thing happened to Dalton, and look where his carrier went- down the
tubes.
He (Dalton) had the chance of becoming the most memorable Bond, but when
only doing 2 movies, he generally won't be remembered, and now Brosnan is
trying the same stunt I guess.
I thought that he DID sign on for 5 movies in total...
Zeki
*** "I didn't know it was public knowledge" ***
*** Brosnan in TND ***
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>Ah, what a day. First JFK Jr, now Pierce is quitting.....
>
>http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/stinwenws01017.
>html?1056493
>
>007 Brosnan is set to hang up his gun
>
> SO it's farewell, Mr Bond, yet again. Pierce Brosnan,
> widely acclaimed as the best James Bond since Sean
> Connery, is preparing to hang up his Walther PPK after
> making a final 007 film in 18 months' time.
>
> The Irish actor, credited with reviving British cinema's
> most successful franchise, fears he will be typecast as
> the suave secret agent unless he quits before he is 50.
>
> Brosnan is 46 and has told showbusiness friends that he
> wants to make other kinds of films. This is impossible
> while he maintains the production rate of the 007 series.
>
> He has just completed working on his third Bond film,
> The World Is Not Enough, to be released in Britain in
> December. He plans to make just one more action
> spectacular. He is already looking at a wish list of films
> that will remake his image from 2002.
>
> Brosnan's three pictures for the British company Eon -
> GoldenEye (1995), Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) and the
> forthcoming £70m blockbuster - have been shot at
> two-year intervals, which suggests that the fourth will be
> made over eight months in 2001.
>
> Brosnan was mooted as 007 before Timothy Dalton took
> his two-film stint in the role. He was invited back when
> Dalton quit to make a series of worthy but
> undistinguished films.
>
> Brosnan's pay has leapt from an initial £750,000 for
> GoldenEye to £3m a film, which lags far behind that of
> Hollywood superstars such as Tom Cruise and John
> Travolta. They can command £15m salaries and a share of
> box office receipts.
>
> His departure will come as a shock to dedicated Bond
> fans. Dave Worrall, author of The Essential Bond and
> president of the James Bond Collectors' Club, said: "As far
> as I am concerned, he is just growing into the role."
>
> A career after Bond has proved troublesome for other
> carriers of the flame. Connery had largely distanced
> himself from the role before he was 40, giving him plenty
> of time for a range of films, yet Roger Moore, who played
> a smoother version of Ian Fleming's cold snobbish agent
> in six films, never emulated that success. The Australian
> actor George Lazenby, who played 007 once, failed to
> score at all.
>
> Brosnan, however, has been laying the groundwork for
> his post-007 roles. Two years ago he starred in the
> disaster movie Dante's Peak and he has since set up a
> production company, Irish Dream Time.
>
> This summer it releases a £40m remake of the 1968 film
> The Thomas Crown Affair, which originally starred Steve
> McQueen and Faye Dunaway. Early next year Brosnan will
> be back in the £30m Grey Owl, directed by Richard
> Attenborough, which tells the story of Archie Belaney, a
> British-born adventurer who travelled to Canada and
> reinvented himself as a Red Indian.
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Kimberly Last <kl...@mcs.com>
>James Bond 007 and Remington Steele pages: http://www.mcs.net/~klast/
Andy Lehrer
kl...@mcs.com wrote:
?Ah, what a day. First JFK Jr, now Pierce is quitting.....
It could just be a negotiating tactic. Sean Connery was going to quit
after Thunderball but was lured back to do two more films. Roger Moore
kept saying his next film would be his last. Eon is only paying Brosnan
3 million pounds. If they offer him a significant pay rise I wouldn't be
surprised to see Brosnan back in a fifth, sixth and maybe even a seventh
Bond film. (Connery did six Bonds with Eon [NSNA would by his 7th bond],
Moore did seven). Certainly there would be a temptation for Brosnan to
match Connery's output. Professionally, it depends how his non-Bond films
do IRT avoiding typecasting. If Thomas Crown Affair and Grey Owl are big
hits it would reassure Brosnan that Bond is not a damper on his career the
way it was for Moore.
Andy
David Williams
Sunday Times, Ian Flemings old employer.
>yet Roger Moore, who played
>a smoother version of Ian Fleming's cold snobbish agent
> in six films
Seven Films!
Pierce was not quoted, a 'friend' made the comments.
David Williams
Zeki <sinne...@image.dk> wrote in message
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> Now that is what I would call bad timing.
> Why didn't he wait with the announcement untill after TWINE has been in
> released.?
> Theres a lot of people out there who are just about getting used to seeing
> Brosnan as Bond- now they have to get used to thought that someone else
will
> take over?
> Isn't there one in this entire world of spoiled actors who actually has an
> urge for breaking Moores 7-movie record?
> All this 'Im afraid of being typecasted' is crap. Either your are James
> Bond- or not, and Brosnan certainly isn't Connery...
> The same thing happened to Dalton, and look where his carrier went- down
the
> tubes.
> He (Dalton) had the chance of becoming the most memorable Bond, but when
> only doing 2 movies, he generally won't be remembered, and now Brosnan is
> trying the same stunt I guess.
> I thought that he DID sign on for 5 movies in total...
>
> Zeki
> *** "I didn't know it was public knowledge" ***
> *** Brosnan in TND ***
> kl...@mcs.com skrev i meddelelsen <7mrjls$dpu$1...@Nntp1.mcs.net>...
> >Ah, what a day. First JFK Jr, now Pierce is quitting.....
> >
Terry Hine
we are reading is part of the negociations. Roger Moore was a master at
this.
The Shadow
<kl...@mcs.com> wrote :
<snip>
I really doubt that he will. It's probably one of those I heard it from a
friend of a friend who heard it from his second cousin who was told by his
friend that overheard somebody talking about the possibility of his leaving
over coffee and doughnoughts at a Waffle House.
Contact Maker
every stupid thing) even the press here (netherlands) reported about the
departure.
Contact Maker
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Jonathan Mock
> I agree with Bob. Brosnan will do 5 Bond movies and then retire. What
> we are reading is part of the negociations. Roger Moore was a master at
> this.
So Moore was good at something then..?
:-)
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Rob Craine
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Rob Craine wrote :
>Wasn't it from their hairdresser?
Oh yes, the hairdresser's always get the latest scoop on what is going on in
the film business. I'm not one to gossip but look for Sean Connery to be in
the latest Star Trek film as Captain Kirk's long lost father from the
starship U.S.S. Scotland. I know it's hard to believe but I am always very
serious when it comes to all things Bond and Star Trek...I say that drinking
a Vodka martini and wearing my pointed ears.
Paul Baack
kl...@mcs.com wrote in message <7mrjls$dpu$1...@Nntp1.mcs.net>...
>Ah, what a day. First JFK Jr, now Pierce is quitting.....
>
>http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/07/18/stinwenws01017.
>html?1056493
>
At first blush this sounds like really bad news; upon further reflection it
sounds like the purest booshwa. I'd be willing to bet this is just a
(poorly-executed) negotiating tactic.
Brosnan can reasonably expect that TWINE will do extremely well at the
boxoffice (further cementing his credentials as *the* James Bond of this
generation,) but it is a gamble. TWINE faces some stiff competition this
fall, and the novelty of "Pierce Brosnan as James Bond" has no pretty much
worn off, knocking it down a couple of notches in the "gotta see" category
for the average moviegoer. If TWINE does not do as well as expected or show
any legs at the boxoffice, it's within the realm of possibilty that EON may
decide, "with regret," to accept his resignation. ("Don't let the door hit
you in the ass on your way out, Pierce.")
If I'm Brosnan's agent, I keep my client's mouth shut until TWINE crosses
the $200MM mark, or even better, until the cumulative total for all three
Brosnan Bonds hits $1000MM. *Then* we take the "Billion Dollar Bond" back
to the table.
If Brosnan is serious about not wanting to play James Bond anymore, I'm sure
the USA cable network can prepare a nice welcome for him in his new home.
He and the recently unemployed Patrick Stewart can do "Death Train" movies
together for the balance of their direct-to-video careers.
What a schmuck.
Paul
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The Shadow
Mike Feeney wrote :
>"Other roles" does not necessarily equate to
>good or memorable roles. What was that movie
>Pierce made a few years ago about the volcano?
Dante's Peak
>Anyone even remember the name of the character
>he played in that film?
Harry Dalton
The Shadow
Dan Hartung wrote :
>Mm. Perhaps this is merely end-of-production "damn I'd be a fool to do
>THIS again" malaise?
Yes
Dan Hartung
[quoting from the Sunday Times]
> The Irish actor, credited with reviving British cinema's
> most successful franchise, fears he will be typecast as
> the suave secret agent unless he quits before he is 50.
>
> Brosnan is 46 and has told showbusiness friends that he
> wants to make other kinds of films. This is impossible
> while he maintains the production rate of the 007 series.
Mm. Perhaps this is merely end-of-production "damn I'd be a fool to do
THIS again" malaise?
--
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Mike Feeney
hear this news. I think Pierce has been great a
James Bond and I would love to see him stay on
for another three or four pictures before age
becomes the appropriate reason for retiring from
the role. I can't think of anyone else who is more
appropriate to play Bond.
As for "not being typecast", this becomes a
case of "be careful what you wish for because it
may come true." No offense to Timothy Dalton,
but his career after leaving Bond has not been
monumental. And whether or not Connery or
Moore like to admit it, being James Bond pretty
much established their film careers and ultimately
led to more opportunities do other work because
they were well known and well liked by the public.
I can think of many, many things much worse
than being remembered for playing James Bond.
"Other roles" does not necessarily equate to
good or memorable roles. What was that movie
Pierce made a few years ago about the volcano?
Anyone even remember the name of the character
he played in that film? I would personally much
prefer to be remembered for doing several very
good James Bond films than for a bunch of
trivial and easily forgotten roles, such as the
volcano film.
--Mike
"I think he got the point." --TB
Smyth
Bond 20 are a success, he'll be offered more moolha (8million?) for Bond 21.
MGM will probably make him an offer to fund a movie for him to
produce/direct, or co-fund a film with Irish Dreamtime (similar to their
offer to Connery for DAF). After a fifth he'll have defined his
interpretation of the role and be ready to go onto other things.
--
Peter Smyth, Liverpool, England
"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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Smyth
>Now that is what I would call bad timing.
>Why didn't he wait with the announcement untill after TWINE has been in
>released.?
He didn't make an announcement. The article says that it's just a rumour -
'Brosnan told his friends'.
I thought that he DID sign on for 5 movies in total...
He only signed for three.
Smyth
better. He'd be 50 when Bond21 is filmed, anything older than that is too
old.
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"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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career. Moore, Daltonand Lazenby haven't done anything particularly
distinguished ('The Rocketeer', 'The Pretender' and 'The Spice Girls Movie'
are probably their most notorious) and Connery only seems to survive,
nowadays on Neo-Bond roles ('The Rock' 'The Avengers' and 'Entrapment' are
all examples).
And Brosnan isn't in Moore's class as a star, Dalton's class as an actor or
Connery's class as a Movie Icon.
--
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"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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Levi Ramsey
>Moore like to admit it, being James Bond pretty
>much established their film careers
Connery, yes.
Moore, not really. Roger was a successful TV/movie actor before coming to
Bond. Bond may be what he's remembered for the most (rightfully so), but to
say that it established his career is incorrect.
The main reason Moore hasn't gotten that much work in the past few (14)
years, IMHO, is that he's been in his 60's or 70's for most of that period,
and his Bond films gave the public the impression that he was simply a
clown, and who wants a 60-/70-something clown?
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>I think so too but the press seems to take it seriously (as they do with
>every stupid thing) even the press here (netherlands) reported about the
>departure.
Or worse: if the press has no new infos they come here to afjb and see
us discussing about anything like this - and there they have their
story!
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[snip]
>Connery only seems to survive,
>nowadays on Neo-Bond roles ('The Rock' 'The Avengers' and 'Entrapment' are
>all examples).
What, are you serious?
Wouldn't you call it a very succesfull carriere if you played lead roles in
movies like:
The man who would be king, A bridge too far, The Untouchables (won an
Oscar), Name of the rose, Indy3 and Russia House- just to name a few?
Zeki
>And Brosnan isn't in Moore's class as a star, Dalton's class as an actor or
>Connery's class as a Movie Icon.
>
>--
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>
>"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
>Alfred Hitchcock
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>
>Mike Feeney wrote in message
><6B15DB9DFA1661FB.53A73E5E...@lp.airnews.net>...
>>Well, I must say that I am really disappointed to
>>hear this news. I think Pierce has been great a
>>James Bond and I would love to see him stay on
>>for another three or four pictures before age
>>becomes the appropriate reason for retiring from
>>the role. I can't think of anyone else who is more
>>appropriate to play Bond.
>>
>>As for "not being typecast", this becomes a
>>case of "be careful what you wish for because it
>>may come true." No offense to Timothy Dalton,
>>but his career after leaving Bond has not been
>>monumental. And whether or not Connery or
>>Moore like to admit it, being James Bond pretty
Tom Zielinski
<6B15DB9DFA1661FB.53A73E5E...@lp.airnews.net>...
>Well, I must say that I am really disappointed to
>hear this news. I think Pierce has been great a
>James Bond and I would love to see him stay on
>for another three or four pictures before age
>becomes the appropriate reason for retiring from
>the role. I can't think of anyone else who is more
>appropriate to play Bond.
Well said Mr. Feeney.
Tom Zielinski
Lake In The Hills, IL USA
"Life is Funny, But I'm Not Laughing..."
KJR Sports
I do like him as Bond. But I understand his fears about continuing the role.
Who do you think will be next to fill Bonds shoes?>>
Brosnan will most likely do a forth. But the one here who says he'll do a fifth
is in his own little world.
Early reports for Brosnan's successor was Adrian Paul. I'd personally give it
to Rupert Everett.
KJR Sports
Bond- or not, and Brosnan certainly isn't Connery...
The same thing happened to Dalton, and look where his carrier went- down the
tubes.>>
Brosnan isn't exactly Dalton, in case you haven't bothered to look.
hudson kiley
to Rupert Everett.
I'd much rather see Everett than Paul.
Hud
Matt Michael
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>Early reports for Brosnan's successor was Adrian Paul. I'd personally give
it
>to Rupert Everett.
Wouldn't it be great if the new Moneypenny was a man, possibly of the
Everett persuasion. It would bring a whole new spin to their flirting!
matt
Jonathan Mock
>
> What, are you serious?
> Wouldn't you call it a very succesfull carriere if you played lead roles in
> movies like:
> The man who would be king, A bridge too far, The Untouchables (won an
> Oscar), Name of the rose, Indy3 and Russia House- just to name a few?
>
> Zeki
The Hunt for Red October. Great movie.
Smyth
fifth
>is in his own little world.
He has already said that he'll do a fourth. There's no question of that. And
there's every possibility that he'll do a fifth, if he's offered enough
money. Why not?
>Early reports for Brosnan's successor was Adrian Paul. I'd personally give
it
>to Rupert Everett.
There have been no such reports. No-one has been mentioned as Brosnan's
successor, Adrian Paul was just a suggestion by some people on this group
and on other websites. Everett probably wouldn't get it on account of his
being gay (sad but true).
Smyth
difference.
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"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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should have made myself more clear.
'The Rock', 'The Avengers' and 'Entrapment' (his three most recent movies?)
are all examples of him capitalising on his stint as Bond.
He admitted that his character in 'The Rock' was based on Bond. In 'The
Avengers' he played a Bond Villain, to all intents and purposes, and Jerry
Weintruab went on record that Connery's association with James Bond was why
he was cast. Entrapment was another neo-Bond. A gentleman thief, as opposed
to a gentleman spy. If you've seen the film, you'll know that the connection
is even stronger.
--
Peter Smyth, Liverpool, England
"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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Zeki wrote in message ...
>
>Smyth skrev i meddelelsen <7mvfqp$1vm$1...@news1.cableinet.co.uk>...
>
>[snip]
>>Connery only seems to survive,
>>nowadays on Neo-Bond roles ('The Rock' 'The Avengers' and 'Entrapment' are
>>all examples).
>
>What, are you serious?
>Wouldn't you call it a very succesfull carriere if you played lead roles in
>movies like:
>The man who would be king, A bridge too far, The Untouchables (won an
>Oscar), Name of the rose, Indy3 and Russia House- just to name a few?
>
>Zeki
>
>
>>And Brosnan isn't in Moore's class as a star, Dalton's class as an actor
or
>>Connery's class as a Movie Icon.
>>
>>--
>>Peter Smyth, Liverpool, England
>>
>>"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
>>Alfred Hitchcock
>>___________
>>
>>Mike Feeney wrote in message
>><6B15DB9DFA1661FB.53A73E5E...@lp.airnews.net>...
>>>Well, I must say that I am really disappointed to
>>>hear this news. I think Pierce has been great a
>>>James Bond and I would love to see him stay on
>>>for another three or four pictures before age
>>>becomes the appropriate reason for retiring from
>>>the role. I can't think of anyone else who is more
>>>appropriate to play Bond.
>>>
Levi Ramsey
>Everett probably wouldn't get it on account of his
>being gay (sad but true).
If he does, then it may mean that Sir Ian may finally get in a Bond film.
The Shadow
Smyth wrote :
>Adrian Paul was just a suggestion by some people on this group
>and on other websites.
He was called back a few times to audition as James Bond before the filming
on GE began, so the people at EON were interested.
Bill Hatfield
>If Brosnan is serious about not wanting to play James Bond anymore, I'm
sure
>the USA cable network can prepare a nice welcome for him in his new home.
>He and the recently unemployed Patrick Stewart can do "Death Train" movies
>together for the balance of their direct-to-video careers.
>
>What a schmuck.
Paul -
Agreed.
In my mind, if Brosnan thinks he can sustain a career after Bond, he has
several things working against him.
First is that he's a *good* (meaning solid) actor, but he's not a *great*
actor. If he were really a hot property, and people were banging down his
door to give him Grade-A scripts, then there would be some sort of rationale
to hang up the tux so he could try to broaden his horizons in Hollywoodland.
Second point: One need only view the post-Bond careers of George Lazenby,
Roger Moore (well, he pretty much retired from acting after AVTAK, so I'm
not sure he counts) or Timothy Dalton to see that ditching Bond to escape
"the image" isn't always a good thing. What has Dalton, for example, done
after he quit Bond in 1994? That movie with Fran Drescher and a couple of
direct-to-Showtime flicks, which is hardly suitable for such a great actor.
Third point is that he's only just growing into the role. In fact, I think
TWINE will be his chance to prove that he's really got the goods to compete
with Connery and Dalton, whom I consider to be the series' top actors.
Hell, even Moore was able to find his own niche, however painful some of his
later films were. Brosnan's task, and it is a daunting one at that, is to
cement his identity as Bond in the next film and carry it through to the
fourth film if he can.
To sum up, I think that Brosnan is making a big mistake by claiming he'll
throw in the towel this early, because he is running the risk of alienating
some fans who could figure his heart is no longer in the series. Announcing
you're leaving a series two years beforehand is not very shrewd, and one
wonders how shiny he expects his career to be post-Bond (insert your clever
direct-to-USA comment here....very funny observation!)
Bill Hatfield
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Bill Hatfield wrote in message ...
>Third point is that he's only just growing into the role. In fact, I think
>TWINE will be his chance to prove that he's really got the goods to compete
>with Connery and Dalton, whom I consider to be the series' top actors.
Something else just occured to me, and this is total speculation... Could
this be Brosnan's way of protesting the direction the series has taken?
Imagine you're him: You're a Bond fan to begin with; you do a years of
journeyman work on TV, cable, and B movies to hone your skills, all the
while knowing that the cinema-going audience is *expecting* that one day
you'll be the new James Bond; and then you finally get the role you've
prepared for your whole professional life! You've thought about how you'd
play James Bond; you think you'll reveal the inner workings of the man
layer-by-layer, film-by-film; you'll strike the right balance of
Flemingesque melancholy, movie star charm, actorly wit, and tough-guy
ruggedness.
Then you step on the set and are told your choice is an AK-47 or an Uzi.
Heartbroken, you realize that you're still in USA Cable land, only with a
hundred million dollar budget. The interesting script you've received has
been reduced by the film's producer to a series of stunts and explosions,
leaving you with nothing to do that requires much thought or talent or
personality. You eke out what you can in small scenes the producer can't
cut, and, quite frankly, you're embarrassed. You though you'd be a great
James Bond, but all your employers want you to be is another factor in their
equation, and a smaller part of the equation at that.
Maybe now is the time to threaten to quit. Pierce Brosnan is the single
greatest asset the franchise has at this time, and they're making him look
like a monkey. Mr. and Mrs.. Moviegoer aren't going to see TWINE and then
remark to each other that "it really had that Michael G. Wilson touch."
The producers need to start listening to their star, their chief writer, and
whatever director they hire NOW! Otherwise we'll soon get the Adrian Paul
direct-to-video James Bond series.
Paul
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>
> While I agree with your comments, I believe very strongly that Pierce Brosnan
> is the best Bond i致e seen on screen since Connery left. He has the perfect
> Bond look and attitude.
Ditto
Smyth
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Peter Smyth, Liverpool, England
"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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KJR Sports wrote in message
<19990720204738...@ng-fl1.aol.com>...
><<Smyth wrote :
>>Adrian Paul was just a suggestion by some people on this group
>>and on other websites.>>
>
>
>When I mean "a while back," I'm talking GOLDENEYE "a while back."
Smyth
Smyth
like tabloid (OK - broadsheet) gossip to me.
However, you're points are still valid. Brosnan definitely cares for the
Bond series, and is certainly interested in returning to the tone of the
early films (although his wish to remake OHMSS was a bit foolish). If you
ask me, Brosnan is our one hope that Bond 20 will get a decent director and
a good screenwriter.
--
Peter Smyth, Liverpool, England
"Drama is life with the dull bits left out."
Alfred Hitchcock
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Paul Baack wrote in message ...
>
KJR Sports
Richard & Alison Ashton
was smart enough to admit that Dalton was a fine Bond but saddled with a
pair of films that weren't up to snuff. Pierce was pretty sure that
Dalton had the role for life, too. So, yes, he finally gets his shot and
GE was a good film for sure, but he knows that TND was a joke and he
doesn't want to be remembered as the man in the forgettable part of the
franchise's history.
So I'm with you all the way on this one Paul. Good call.
Richard
PPenzella
is the best Bond i致e seen on screen since Connery left. He has the perfect
GoldenEye trailer several years ago before it came out and I was blown away. I
was hyped to see the film and it delivered! It also, in my humble opinion, had
the best opening sequence ever filmed in the series.
I hope Pierce stays on because in my book he IS James Bond.
Bill Hatfield
>
>>Third point is that he's only just growing into the role. In fact, I
think
>>TWINE will be his chance to prove that he's really got the goods to
compete
>>with Connery and Dalton, whom I consider to be the series' top actors.
>
>
>Something else just occured to me, and this is total speculation... Could
>this be Brosnan's way of protesting the direction the series has taken?
<snip>
It's highly possible, seeing as GE and TND have been basically cookie-cutter
efforts that haven't exactly scored in the plot or character development
departments, yet instead are paeans to the world of automatic weapons and
high-tech gadgets. GE was Bond Lite; TND was even "liter" in terms of
actual plot development.
I think Brosnan recognizes that only a certain percentage of the moviegoing
audience can take so much action in Bond films, and we've heard him discuss
his attempts to peel back the layers of the character. Yet, as you point
out, these moments of actual characterization are few and far between.
I think that Brosnan, with his growing clout, should be able to influence
the producers more than he has done so far. Don't forget that he did order
the first TND script scrapped after it turned out to be utter garbage.
However, he should take a more active role in making sure the film works on
all conceivable levels, since it seems he has a pretty good grasp on the
essence of the character. This USA-Cable feel will only be lost when
Brosnan takes his own involvement to a higher level.
Bill Hatfield
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snark^
warbled on about "maybe Brosnan's heart is broken" in a.f.j-b <<=
.... [snip] ....
> prepared for your whole professional life! You've thought about how you'd
> play James Bond; you think you'll reveal the inner workings of the man
> layer-by-layer, film-by-film; you'll strike the right balance of
> Flemingesque melancholy, movie star charm, actorly wit, and tough-guy
> ruggedness.
>
> Then you step on the set and are told your choice is an AK-47 or an Uzi.
Nice hypothesis, Paul, but I think it works more like this: I now present to
you all the following, "The Bonbons Conspiracy Theory".
Before the script has been finalised, and the serious work of decided who to
have as the catering contractor begins, one Pierce Brosnan esq., gives a few
interviews stating how this latest effort is going to bring back the Bond of
old. Which specifically is said to be a Bond with a hard uncompromising
edge, but yet also one with a soft nougat chewy emotional central core to
his character. We believe him, again, because he appears sincere and sounds
like he really means it this time. Press releases from MGM confirm this
approach even though after the TND debacle they claimed words like
'character' and 'intelligent script' are anathema to them
Then disaster strikes! On the day he's meant to show up at the studios to
begin filming Pierce is kidnapped by the Marketing Noids from MGM and
replaced with a clone now known to us as Pirs Bonbons. Now Pirs was cloned
from Pierce in the later days of Remington Steel, so his acting skills are
somewhat behind those of our modern day Pierce to start with (eg., note that
Pirs grunts in an overly-macho way when trying to feign pain) and not only
that but Pierce's mental state was purged and replaced with a... more
compliant malleable, but ultimately depraved, mind. This still isn't too
bad actually (excepting those disgusting personal attributes and certain
leprous skeletons in his closet), because this Pirs dude would *also* be a
great guy for the role... - but for the overwhelming fact his real first
love is loud explosions and big machine guns (psychologically compensatory)
that spit out bullets faster than Chris Tucker spits out his lines. The
movie gets made with our Pirs playing the role of secret agent James Bond
(whom he only knows of through packs of trading cards and reruns of "James
Bond Junior").
And thus we have the final product. Much desired beforehand for its style
and wit in pre-production, but turns out to be formulaic PC action crap
(with the expected Bond scenes tacked on for 'authenticity') when finally
splurged on the screens in front of us. Dog save us all.
--
"I killed the Greek piper god," Tom deadpanned.
Alex
>
>From: "Zeki" <sinne...@image.dk>
>>
>> What, are you serious?
>> Wouldn't you call it a very succesfull carriere if you played lead roles
>in
>> movies like:
>> The man who would be king, A bridge too far, The Untouchables (won an
>> Oscar), Name of the rose, Indy3 and Russia House- just to name a few?
>>
>> Zeki
>
Yes yes. The fact is There has been approx three or four years between 1952 and
today in which Connery hasn't been in a film. That's over forty five years of
non-stop fame and fortune.
t i l l n e x t t i m e
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-Alex
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dra...@aol.com (hudson kiley) wrote:
> >Early reports for Brosnan's successor was Adrian Paul. I'd
personally give it
> to Rupert Everett.
>
That's worse than Will Smith playing Jim West. Much like Cher Bono
playing Moneypenny. Catch the drift? Ah-hah.
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dra...@aol.com (hudson kiley) wrote:
> >Early reports for Brosnan's successor was Adrian Paul. I'd
personally give it
> to Rupert Everett.
>
> I'd much rather see Everett than Paul.
That's worse than Will Smith playing Jim West. Much like Chastity
(not Cher,pardon) Bono playing Moneypenny. Catch the drift? Ah-hah.
Don't think Bond much likes tea dances.
Tom Zielinski
Brosnan
>> is the best Bond i致e seen on screen since Connery left. He has the
perfect
>> Bond look and attitude.
>
Ditto the ditto.
snark^
warbled on about "Re: Brosnan quitting Bond" in alt.fan.james-bond <<=
> I'd much rather see Everett than Paul.
Kenny Everett? I'd back your nomination of him but he's been dead a few
years now.
--
"No, you can't have any of my oysters", said Tom shellfishly.
Levi Ramsey
>"No, you can't have any of my oysters", said Tom shellfishly.
Would that be a Connery quote? ;o)
Whitney67
for Bond films . . .I think they'll bend alot to keep him.
He's probally planning a scare in the media, so that they throw a heap of cash
at him to stay on board, while also getting adiquate time between Bond pictures
to do other films as well.
I think that's what he's going for.
-Tom
