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Kwong Wong

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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Miles (m.mes...@univ.expts.com) wrote:
: I agree with those who believe the pre-credit sequence in DAF was about
: Bond avenging Tracy's murder. What may have confused the originator of the
: thread is that Irma Bunt, Blofeld's accomplice, actually pulled the trigger
: that killed Tracy in OHMSS. I don't recall Bond having anything to do
: with Irma Bunt in DAF, as far as I can recall Irma Bunt does not appear or
: is even mentioned in any Bond film after OHMSS.

Yeah, that is really strange. IMO Bond should've also went after the one
who fired the bullet.

: So, apparently the killer of Tracy Bond is still a fugitive, and neither
: Connery, nor Moore, nor Dalton, nor Brosnan has made an effort to hunt
: down Irma Bunt.

My guess is the writers *might* have her appear in a future film, probably
as head of a "revived" SPECTRE? That would be something! From what I've
seen on OHMSS, he does have some unfinished business with Bunt. Bond's
revenge is not complete if Bunt is still alive.

: I can only surmise this is so because Eon/UA/whatever was/is reluctant to
: have Bond stalk, hunt down, and kill a woman.

At the time it might have been wrong, but now (since Bond has killed
Xenia) is it's accepted.

: I believe I'm right about the above, if not please post any updates as to
: the cinematic whereabouts of the Irma Bunt character.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason Bunt didn't reappear is
because the actress died?
Anyone know?

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Michael S Monaco

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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It seems like Blofeld would have killed her off for her failure in the
whole Piz Gloria affair -- failure to stop Bond, primarily. She might
have been around for a little while, but considering SPECTRE's harsh
punishment for failure, I have to think that Blofeld quickly offed Bunt
after Bunt did Tracy in.

Keeping the torch lit at both ends,
Michael S. Monaco
Chairman, Pittsburgh Olympic Bid Organizing Committee
mm...@andrew.cmu.edu

Amvee

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In article <4eb0q3$7...@chaos.dac.neu.edu>, kww...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kwong
Wong) writes:

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason Bunt didn't reappear is
>because the actress died?
>Anyone know?

Yes. Ilse Steppat, IMO the most perfectly cast performer in OHMSS, passed
away shortly after the film was completed. Steve Rubin's "Encyclopedia"
lists the year of her death as 1970. Reportedly she did see a final cut of
the film and was pleased with the result. She was as definitive an Irma
Bunt as Lotte Lenya was Rosa Klebb. Bunt would probably make a great
villainess for the series (she is wholly a Fleming creation, so no
potential conflict with the McClory camp as long as SPECTRE is not
mentioned), and the fact that it was she who fired the bullets that killed
Tracy (in the film) would give extra motivation to Bond. It would,
however, be difficult to cast her. Perhaps Kathy Bates...?

Mike V.
"Worry is a dividend paid to disaster before it is due" (OHMSS, Ch. 1)


Mike V.
"worry is a dividend paid to disaster before it is due"
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Robert T. Zielinski

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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In <4eb0q3$7...@chaos.dac.neu.edu> kww...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kwong Wong)
writes:


<<"Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason Bunt didn't reappear
is because the actress died?">>


Kwon,

Hmmmmmmm. Never stopped 'em before. "M" was replaced after Bernard
Lee's death. Blofeld, Leiter, Moneypenny, and even Bond have been
reincarnated several times, though not due to any of the actors' deaths
as far as I know.

But the idea of using Irma Bunt for a future plot line does intrigue.

How about casting Linda Hunt? Good actress, at the right approximate
age, with the tools to make the character evil and hateful. She's got
my vote.


Tom Zielinski
Lake in The Hills, IL USA
("Life is Funny, But I'm Not Laughing".)


William Koenig

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Jan 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/27/96
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Actually, I think the actress who played Irma Bunt died so Broccoli & Co.
just felt it was easier to drop any mention of Irma in the next film.

Of course in the novel YOLT (which came after OHMSS), Irma was an
important character. She was still helping Blofeld, this time with his
"garden of death'' aimed at attracting the suicide-prone.


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Ryan Robbins

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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About who really killed Tracy:

If I recall correctly, it is Blofeld himself who pulls the trigger.
As Blofeld and Bunt approach Bond's and Tracy's car, Bunt is driving
and Blofeld is handling the gun from the back seat. The gun was
mounted on a stand so he could hold it steady.

In the book, all we see is what Bond sees: a snarling mouth just
before the gun goes off.

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Ernest Hughes

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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In article <96028.0453...@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>,

Ryan Robbins <RROB...@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> wrote:
>About who really killed Tracy:
>
>If I recall correctly, it is Blofeld himself who pulls the trigger.
>As Blofeld and Bunt approach Bond's and Tracy's car, Bunt is driving
>and Blofeld is handling the gun from the back seat. The gun was
>mounted on a stand so he could hold it steady.
>
>In the book, all we see is what Bond sees: a snarling mouth just
>before the gun goes off.
>
>Ryan Robbins

Sorry Ryan, you do not recall correctly. I just watched the movie last
night, and it is indeed Irma Bunt who guns done the car killing Tracy.
Blofeld is the one driving the car, it looks like with some difficulty
though due to his neck brace.

-Elton

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B.L. Quark

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.

Bill

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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The actress, Ilse Steppat, died in 1970.

Kwong Wong

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Craig Ellingson (cell...@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: I know what happened to Irma. Ms. Bunt appears in the opening sequence of
: DAF. She's the one in the mud bath getting changed into a Blofeld-clone.
: Yes, those are bushy, black eyebrows you see, but they're fake!

ROTFL. Yeah, right.


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Craig Ellingson

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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I know what happened to Irma. Ms. Bunt appears in the opening sequence of
DAF. She's the one in the mud bath getting changed into a Blofeld-clone.
Yes, those are bushy, black eyebrows you see, but they're fake!

Answer: she's dead. She'd make a bad villian for "DreamWeaver" anyway.


Craig

tw...@grove.iup.edu

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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In article <Yl2MqEW00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, Michael S Monaco <mm...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>It seems like Blofeld would have killed her off for her failure in the
>whole Piz Gloria affair -- failure to stop Bond, primarily. She might
>have been around for a little while, but considering SPECTRE's harsh
>punishment for failure, I have to think that Blofeld quickly offed Bunt
>after Bunt did Tracy in.
>
>
Yeah, that sounds likely. He did seem to do that fairly quickly to other operat
ives who messed up their chances at knocking off Bond, or just generally
displeased him.

Matt Ciarelli
TW...@grove.iup.edu

tenn...@sound.net

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Michael S Monaco <mm...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

>It seems like Blofeld would have killed her off for her failure in the
>whole Piz Gloria affair -- failure to stop Bond, primarily. She might
>have been around for a little while, but considering SPECTRE's harsh
>punishment for failure, I have to think that Blofeld quickly offed Bunt
>after Bunt did Tracy in.

I think I work for Ms. Bunt. Same body, same manners, same accent.
Yup, definately, I work for Irma Bunt


Kwong Wong

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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tw...@grove.iup.edu wrote:
: In article <Yl2MqEW00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, Michael S Monaco <mm...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
: >It seems like Blofeld would have killed her off for her failure in the

: >whole Piz Gloria affair -- failure to stop Bond, primarily. She might
: >have been around for a little while, but considering SPECTRE's harsh
: >punishment for failure, I have to think that Blofeld quickly offed Bunt
: >after Bunt did Tracy in.
: >
: >
: Yeah, that sounds likely. He did seem to do that fairly quickly to other operat

: ives who messed up their chances at knocking off Bond, or just generally
: displeased him.

But the big problem is that we (the audience) never SEEN Blofeld kill
Bunt for her "failure." If we don't see it, we can assume she is alive.
Although we also didn't see this, perhaps it was Bunt that HELPED
Blofeld after he got his near-fatal bobsledding fight with Bond (ie she
found him hanging on the tree, managed to get him down - oversee he gets
medical attention, etc.) My impression on OHMSS is that Bunt is very
loyal to him... so I doubt he'd bump her off.

Kwong Wong

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Robert T. Zielinski (rt...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: In <4eb0q3$7...@chaos.dac.neu.edu> kww...@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Kwong Wong)
: writes:


: <<"Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the reason Bunt didn't reappear
: is because the actress died?">>


: Kwon,

: Hmmmmmmm. Never stopped 'em before. "M" was replaced after Bernard
: Lee's death. Blofeld, Leiter, Moneypenny, and even Bond have been
: reincarnated several times, though not due to any of the actors' deaths
: as far as I know.

But remember at this time (1969-71) the series itself was just starting
out on changing actors and don't know if the audience would accept or
reject them.

Vinnie P. Rice

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Ryan Robbins wrote:

> About who really killed Tracy:
>
> If I recall correctly, it is Blofeld himself who pulls the trigger.
> As Blofeld and Bunt approach Bond's and Tracy's car, Bunt is driving
> and Blofeld is handling the gun from the back seat. The gun was
> mounted on a stand so he could hold it steady.

True, as Blofeld had too much pain in the neck to properly drive a car
(remember the "accident" in the bobsleigh? ;-)

binky

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tenn...@sound.net wrote:
>Michael S Monaco <mm...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>>It seems like Blofeld would have killed her off for her failure in the
>>whole Piz Gloria affair -- failure to stop Bond, primarily. She might
>>have been around for a little while, but considering SPECTRE's harsh
>>punishment for failure, I have to think that Blofeld quickly offed Bunt
>>after Bunt did Tracy in.
>
>I think I work for Ms. Bunt. Same body, same manners, same accent.
>Yup, definately, I work for Irma Bunt
>
Yeah? Well, I AM Frau Irma.

"Binky"


Ryan Robbins

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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Actually, I was quite wrong! Bunt is in the back seat with a rifle and
Blofeld is driving, albeit with a stiff neck wrapped in a brace. In
the book, though, I assume it's Blofeld who pulls the trigger.

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