Was there ever a James Bond girl that was actually a man or just a rumor
Ken
Transvestite. Is that true or just another rumor.
bekadubya
when Bond first arrives at his hotel in India. She/He later did a spread
in Playboy.
Ken wrote in message <7uifgk$e5v$1...@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net>...
Rhino
not stirred, and added:
>Yes, its true. She (He??) was one of the poolside girls in Octopussy
>when Bond first arrives at his hotel in India. She/He later did a spread
>in Playboy.
Sorry fella - wrong - it was For Your Eyes Only - (s)he was one of the
girls at the poolside when Gonzalez is killed
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>
> >Yes, its true. She (He??) was one of the poolside girls in
> >Octopussy when Bond first arrives at his hotel in India.
> >She/He later did a spread in Playboy.
>
> Sorry fella - wrong - it was For Your Eyes Only - (s)he was one
> of the girls at the poolside when Gonzalez is killed
> --
Perhaps, Mr. Rhino. But can you explain why Jaws, who clearly
is capable of speech (e.g., "Here's to us") never says a word
in the entire film TSWLM? Even when he drops the giant boulder
on his foot after Bond and Anya escape, he utters not a sound.
--Mike
JD Wiseman (John Moore)
> Yes, its true. She (He??) was one of the poolside girls in Octopussy
> when Bond first arrives at his hotel in India. She/He later did a spread
> in Playboy.
And wasn't he/she the one married to Pierce Brownsan?
jd
Nick Rheinwald
>I heard that one of the James Bond girls was actually an English
>Transvestite. Is that true or just another rumor.
Louis Jordan.
--Nick
Rich Handley
here all the time. As such, it is covered in the FAQ for those who
are new (as is the case in most newsgroups).
"Ken" <fi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I heard that one of the James Bond girls was actually an English
>Transvestite. Is that true or just another rumor.
Sincerely,
Rich Handley (Card...@NO-SPAMunix.asb.com)
tattooyou
remember, she / he / it didn't have any lines.
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Ben Corby
>is capable of speech (e.g., "Here's to us") never says a word
>in the entire film TSWLM? Even when he drops the giant boulder
>on his foot after Bond and Anya escape, he utters not a sound.
Willpower, man! Willpower!
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Icebreaker
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> I heard that one of the James Bond girls was actually an English
> Transvestite. Is that true or just another rumor.
>
>
http://www.007forever.com/Infrequently_Asked_Questions.html
Q: Wasn't there a Bond girl who used to be a man?
A: Yes and no. Caroline Cossey, other wise known as Tula, was a
woman and working runway
model by the time she had a small role in "For Your Eyes Only".
In the film, she had no speaking
part, and was simply a pool girl enjoying the sun at the villa
of Hector Gonzalez. Her claim to fame
has been widely exaggerated by the press and entertainment
media.
Caroline, or rather Barry, in her teen years
physically matured as any other
young man. Barry had the normal amount of
facial/body hair for a 16 year old
and functioning genitalia. Barry most likely had
less testoserone and more
estrogen then average but this is not abnormal.
Carolines being born a man was certainly a
mistake by nature but the exact
cause of transexuality is still not known by
medicine - only theories. What is
known is that it causes extreme emotional pain
in the affected person. Its not
any different from many diseases where the cause
is not known but the
treatment relieves the suffering.
Caroline's offical position is that she has a
genetic abnormality called
Mosaicism(also known as Klienfelders Syndrome).
She has had genetic testing
which has proved she indeed has this abnormality.
What happens is occassionaly extra 'X' chromosones get pasted
on. Some of her sex chromosones
are 'XY' but others are 'XXY' and XXXY'. This syndrome, in more
severe forms, can cause mental
retardation. The medical community is not convinced that this
necessarily causes transexuality and
many people live life as normal males.
This is NOT the same as being a 100% 'XXY' she-male(such as
several athletes in the Olympics
have been). It is not the same as being a hermaphrodite
either(both sets of sex organs).
The reason Caroline is so attractive is because she is a 'first
wave' transitioner.
First Wave transitioners are transexuals who start female
hormones in their school years(age
15-25). These tend to be the beautiful transexuals because the
harsher male characteristics(facial
hair, thick skin, thick big nose, thinning hair, prominent
browbone, etc) have not happened. Yet,
they tend to have the positive male characteristics of being
tall and slender(think of how Super
Models look). They also age very gracefully.
There are several first way transexuals currently runway
modeling in Milan and Paris as females.
Examples of 'First Wave' transexuals include April Ashley
(http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/Runway/5930/aprilash.htm), Brazilian
actress/model Roberta Close(http://www.robertaclose.com.br/),
and Danielle at
(http://www.justevelyn.com/gather/index.htm).
It is the 'second wave'(~age 30-45) and 'third wave'(age 45+)
that give transexuals a bad image.
Many of these tend to have been married and fathered children.
Renee Richards is such an
example. They usually have lost the attractive feminine
characteristics that go with youth. The
press & movies gravitate toward this group because it is more
sensational to show a
burly bloke in a dress.
Transexualism falls in the realm of an actual medical syndrome
which is why it is eventually treated
surgically. It sharply differs from being gay, which is a
preference, or transvestism, which is sort of
a fetish/hobby thing.
Caroline is not making any public appearances or giving
interviews currently. She still models and
runs a business in Atlanta. The early 1990s were so tramatic
for her that she is enjoying her life
with her husband. She is 45 years old now (her handsome husband
is 35 years old).
The "mayor's office" of Atlanta gave Caroline Cossey the key to
the city. The mayor later recieved
some protests and he reponded by saying the office gave her the
key without his authority. in
reality he wanted to appease the gay community by giving her
the key but still wanted an escape
hatch in case the conservative community complained. And they
did.
At one point Caroline wanted to open a night club in Atlanta
similar to the Lido in Paris. This never
happened. She is a private person and gets tired of the
exposure.
--
Michael "Icebreaker" Kersey
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Rhino
Martini, shaken, not stirred, and added:
>Perhaps, Mr. Rhino. But can you explain why Jaws, who clearly
>is capable of speech (e.g., "Here's to us") never says a word
>in the entire film TSWLM? Even when he drops the giant boulder
>on his foot after Bond and Anya escape, he utters not a sound.
Certainly - he says "BUGGER!!" but the producers edited it out, pretty
much in the same way as the Sheriff's "What the f................."
was edited in LALD
Tom Zielinski
(and explanation) regarding the James Bond series?
(Tom, sitting back in his black leather chair, awaiting the witty responses
but is sure the answer is an unequivocal "No".)
Tom Zielinski
Lake In The Hills, IL USA
"Life is Funny, But I'm Not Laughing..."
Icebreaker <icebr...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Ken <fi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:7uifgk$e5v$1...@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net...
> > I heard that one of the James Bond girls was actually an English
> > Transvestite. Is that true or just another rumor.
> >
> >
>
> http://www.007forever.com/Infrequently_Asked_Questions.html
>
>
> Q: Wasn't there a Bond girl who used to be a man?
>
> A: Yes and no. Caroline Cossey, other wise known as Tula, was
a
> woman and working runway
> model by the time she had a small role in "For Your Eyes
Only".
> In the film, she had no speaking
> part, and was simply a pool girl enjoying the sun at the
villa
> of Hector Gonzalez. Her claim to fame
> has been widely exaggerated by the press and entertainment
> media.
>
<SNIP>
Nick Rheinwald
"Was there ever a transsexual Bond girl?", not "What is a transsexual?"
Also, being gay is not (in general) a "preference," but an orientation based
largely on genetics.
--Nick
Icebreaker
largely written by a transexual and a friend of Tula's, who happens to live
a stone's throw from me here in Atlanta. I don't completely buy into the
theory that all homosexuality is genetic, nor do I think being gay is a
complete preferance, but maybe somewhere in the middle.
--
Michael "Icebreaker" Kersey
Where all other websites end...this one begins!
www.007forever.com
Cyber Space now belongs to 007Forever!
Nick Rheinwald <toast...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Dan Hartung
the following:
>I assmue this was in response to my post. I'll say this: the material was
>largely written by a transexual and a friend of Tula's, who happens to live
>a stone's throw from me here in Atlanta. I don't completely buy into the
>theory that all homosexuality is genetic, nor do I think being gay is a
>complete preferance, but maybe somewhere in the middle.
Just a thought: break it up into a longer Q&A format. e.g.
Was there ever a transsexual in a Bond film?
yada yada
Was Caroline/Tula Cossey a transsexual or what?
yada yada
Why does someone become a transsexual?
yada yada
Plus, fix the line breaks ... :)
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The Shadow
Dan Hartung wrote :
>Why does someone become a transsexual?
Ladies night at the local pub where they do not have to pay a cover charge
to get in.