THE TRAIN DEATHS, THE COVER-UP, AND CLINTON
Dr. Jai Maharaj
By Micah Morrison
The Wall Street Journal
April 18, 1996
The Lonely Crusade of Linda Ives
Alexander, Ark. - Linda Ives appears to be a simple
housewife -- born in 1949, graduated from Little Rock's
McClellan High School, and married to Larry Ives, an
engineer on the Union Pacific railroad. But her tale is one
of the most Byzantine in all Arkansas, involving the murder
of her son and his friend, allegations of air-dropped drugs
connected to the Mena, Ark. airport, a series of aborted
investigations and, she believes, cover-ups by local,
state, and federal investigators.
The case started nine years ago, when Bill Clinton was
governor of Arkansas. Today, with Mr. Clinton in the White
House, it is still rattling through the state, with one of
the principal figures making bizarre headlines in the local
press as recently as the last few weeks. Above all, the
"train deaths" case opens a window into the seamy world of
Arkansas drugs.
The bare facts of the case are these: At 4:25 a.m. on Aug
23, 1987, a northbound Union Pacific train ran over two
teenagers, Kevin Ives and Don Henry, as they lay side by
side, motionless on the tracks. Arkansas State Medical
Examiner Fahmy Malak quickly ruled the deaths "accidental,"
saying the boys were "unconscious and in deep sleep" due to
smoking marijuana. "We didn't know anything about marijuana
at the time," Mrs. Ives says. But when medical experts
found the explanation implausible, "we really began asking
questions." The families held a press conference
challenging the ruling, which received wide publicity in
Arkansas.
This in turn provoked an investigation by a local grand
jury in Saline County, a largely rural area between Little
Rock and Hot Springs. Ultimately the bodies were exhumed
and another autopsy was performed by outside pathologists.
They found that Don Henry had been stabbed in the back, and
that Kevin Ives had been beaten with a rifle butt. In grand
jury testimony, lead pathologist Joseph Burton of Atlanta
said the boys "were either incapacitated, knocked
unconscious, possibly even killed, their bodies placed on
the tracks and the train overran their bodies." In
September 1988, the grand jury issued a report stating,
"Our conclusions are that the case is definitely a
homicide."
The teenagers told their parents they were going out for a
night of deer hunting by spotlight. From the beginning
allegations of a drug connection haunted the case. One
police report filed seven months after the death reads,
"Confidential Informant states that she has been told that
the area the two boys died in is a drop zone for dope." The
case soon became a local cause celebre. A Republican
candidate for sheriff in heavily Democratic Saline county
held a press conference by the railroad tracks where the
two teenagers died, promised to crack down on "drug lords"
operating in the area, and won an upset victory.
On taking office, however, the new sheriff passed the
investigation along to Chuck Banks, U.S. attorney for the
Eastern District of Arkansas during the Bush
administration. Mr. Bank's office was probing allegations
of drug-related corruption among Saline County officials.
At the same time, another investigation was opened by Jean
Duffey, a deputy prosecutor heading a newly created drug
task force for the state's Seventh Judicial District.
Drawing on interviews with area residents and informants,
the task force developed a theory that the area was used as
a site for drug drops by plane. "We had witnesses telling
us about low-flying aircraft and informants testifying
about drug pick-ups," Ms. Duffey recalled recently.
Ms. Duffey also says that her supervisor, outgoing
Prosecuting Attorney Gary Arnold, gave her a strange order
upon her new appointment. "He told me, 'You are not to use
the drug task force to investigate any public officials.'
At the time, I assumed it was because of the U.S.
attorney's investigation. But as soon as my undercover
agents hit the streets, they began linking public officials
to drug dealing. So I began funneling that information to
the U.S. attorney's office."
Eight months after taking the post of drug task force
coordinator, Ms. Duffey was fired amid allegations of
financial mismanagement, child abuse and official
improprieties. The Arkansas State Police subsequently found
no basis on which to charge her with mismanagement of task
force funds and state welfare authorities cleared her of
the abuse allegation. Ms. Duffey next received a subpoena
that apparently would have forced her to reveal the
identitiy of her informants--to some of the very people
being probed for drug corruption, she claims. She chose to
ignore the subpoena, she says, "rather than showing up in
court and refusing to testify and being jailed for
contempt. I feared for my safety in an Arkansas jail. Then
the judge issued a felony arrest warrant--'failure to
appear' usually is a low-level misdemeanor--and told the
newspapers I was a fugitive. That's when I left the state."
Ms. Duffey attributes the "smear campaign" and subpoena
that forced her from the state to Dan Harmon, who had won
the Democratic nomination for prosecuting attorney for the
Seventh Judicial District. While he did not take office
until January 1991, he had considerable influence in 1990
because the Democratic nomination insured he would
eventually gain the post. Interviewed this week, Mr. Harmon
says that Ms. Duffey is a "crackpot" and that he was
"planning to replace her when all hell broke loose."
Ms. Duffey says that matters were a great deal more serious
than a personal dispute between her and Mr. Harmon: "My
agents were turning up information linking Mr. Harmon to
drugs, that's what the real problem was." Mr. Harmon also
was identified in leaked investigative documents as a
"target" in the 1989-1991 U.S. attorney's drug-corruption
probe, and Ms. Duffey says the reason she did not respond
to Mr. Harmon's attacks was that the U.S. attorney's office
was assuring her that his indictment was imminent. But in
November 1990 the case supervisor, Assistant U.S. Attorney
Robert Govar, was removed from the investigation and U.S.
Attorney Banks took charge.
In June 1991, Mr. Banks announced that the investigation
was over. "There's not going to be any pressing of
indictment against Mr. Harmon or any other public official
," he said. "We found no evidence of any drug-related
misconduct by public officials." Mr. Banks added that there
would be no arrests in connection with the deaths of Kevin
Ives and Don Henry.
Bill Clinton's gubernatorial administration assumed a role
in the Ives and Henry case shortly after Dr. Malak's
marijuana-induced accidental death ruling. Dr. Malak, an
Egyptian-born physician appointed medical examiner during
Mr. Clinton's first term, already had been buffeted by a
number of controversial cases. With public pressure growing
over botched tests and faulty handling of evidence in the
train deaths affair, Gov. Clinton called in two out-of-
state pathologists to review the work of the medical
examiner and the state crime lab, where the autopsies had
been conducted.
But when the Saline County grand jury probing the case
attempted to subpoena the outside pathologists, Gov.
Clinton balked. Betsy Wright, his chief of staff, submitted
an affidavit saying she did not "know when the two
pathologists will return to Little Rock" and that their
contract with the state was to "make a job performance
evaluation, not to provide a second opinion on specific
cases." The grand jury responded by issuing a subpoena to
Ms. Wright herself on May 25, 1988, and the next day issued
its initial ruling of "probable homicide" in need of
further investigation.
Two months later, Gov. Clinton revived a long dormant state
Medical Examiner Commission to handle the Malak
controversy. The panel was headed up by the director of the
Arkansas Department of Health, Joycelyn Elders. In January
1989, the Medical Examiner Commission ruled on the Malak
case. There was "insufficient evidence at this time for
dismissal" of Dr. Malak, Dr. Elders announced. Nine months
later, Gov. Clinton introduced a bill to make the state
more competitive in hiring forensic pathologists--by giving
Dr. Malak a $32,000 pay raise; the state Legislature later
cut the raise by half. Ms. Wright says the salary was
raised in anticipation of removing Dr. Malak and attracting
a new medical examiner. Dr. Malak was eased out of his job
and given a position as a Health Department consultant to
Dr. Elders a month before Gov. Clinton announced his
presidential run.
A Los Angeles Times report in May 1992 notes that Dr.
Malak's other controversial cases included one involving
Mr. Clinton's mother, nurse-anesthetist Virginia Kelley. It
said Dr. Malak's 1981 ruling in the death of one patient
Mrs. Kelley was attending helped her "avoid legal scrutiny"
in that death when she was already a defendant in a
negligence suit in another patient's death. The suit was
eventually settled by the hospital; Mrs. Kelley's hospital
privileges were revoked in 1981 and she withdrew from
practice.
Linda Ives has developed more sinister explanations for the
Clinton administration's solicitude for Dr. Malak, charging
that "high state and federal officials" have joined in an
attempt to cover up the deaths of the boys and drug-related
activities in Saline County. Taking allies where she can
find them, she recently teamed up with California-based
Jeremiah Films to produce a just-released videotape of her
story. The company previously produced the notorious
"Clinton Chronicles" videotape, but Mrs. Ives promises that
she has "exercised full editorial control" over the new
tape, and says that portions of the proceeds will go to "a
special Civil Justice Fund we've established to find a
courageous lawyer and finance a wrongful death lawsuit."
Of course, Mrs. Ives's own perceptions are colored by a
nine-year obsession with her son's death. "I firmly believe
my son and Don Henry were killed because they witnessed a
drug drop by airplane connected to the Mena drug smuggling
routes," Mrs. Ives says. "It's the only thing that could
explain everything that has happened." It's well
established that self-confessed cocaine smuggler and Drug
Enforcement Administration informant Barry Seal operated
out of Mena, in western Arkansas. Although he was murdered
18 months before the death of the boys, reports of Mena-
connected drug activities persisted for years.
Police records also show that one of the early
investigators on the train deaths case was Arkansas State
Police Officer L.D. Brown, a former security aide to Gov.
Clinton who is now cooperating with Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr's Whitewater probe. He says that he was
ordered off the train deaths case in 1988. "I was told it
had something to do with Mena and I was to get off it," Mr.
Brown said in a recent interview. The superior officer who
gave him the order died of cancer in 1994.
Last July, in an interview with American Spectator editor
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Mr. Brown claimed that he worked briefly
for Barry Seal, and that when he informed Gov. Clinton of
Mr. Seal's activities, Gov. Clinton told him that it was
"Lasater's deal" and that he was not to worry about it. Dan
Lasater is the Little Rock bond dealer and Clinton
supporter arrested for cocaine distribution in 1986, in the
same probe that netted Roger Clinton, the president's
brother. While Mr. Lasater has received far less publicity
than Hillary Clinton's financial transactions, veteran
Arkansas observers have long viewed him as one of Mr.
Clinton's most troubling connections. The new round of
Senate Whitewater hearings reauthorized yesterday will
provide a glimpse of Mr. Lasater, since the next stage of
investigation will delve into some of his deals.
As Mr. Lasater was being charged with cocaine distribution
in 1986, the DEA confirmed that he was the target of a drug
trafficking probe involving his private plane and a small
airstrip at the New Mexico resort, Angel Fire, which he had
purchased in 1984. In the transcript of his interview with
the FBI, Mr. Lasater identifies a police officer named Jay
Campbell as an old friend. He also says that Mr. Campbell
was a member of a DEA task force and had flown on his
plane. Mr. Campbell--working a narcotics beat at the time
for a nearby town's police force--was subpoenaed by the
original Saline County grand jury and appears in police
reports on the train deaths case.
Mr. Lasater could not be reached for comment. Mr. Campbell,
now a lieutenant in a Pulaski County (Little Rock)
narcotics unit, says that Mr. Lasater was only an
"acquaintance" and that he was not a member of a DEA task
force at the time, though he later served on several
federal probes. He vigorously denies any involvement in the
train deaths case and says he was "dragged into" the probe
by a publicity-seeking Dan Harmon, then serving as special
prosecutor for the Saline County grand jury.
One of the most constant and puzzling counterpoints in
Linda Ives's lonely crusade has been Mr. Harmon, today
still prosecuting attorney for the Seventh Judicial
District. Initially, he led the aggressive Saline County
grand jury that had the bodies exhumed. He even worked on
the case as a volunteer before requesting that the
presiding judge appoint him special prosecutor to supervise
investigation of the deaths. Mr. Harmon had previously
served as an elected county prosecutor in 1978-1980, then
declared bankruptcy and briefly decamped to California
before returning to Arkansas and private practice. Mr.
Harmon won his 1990 election as prosecuting attorney by
capitalizing on publicity gained as special prosecutor in
the train deaths, and has held the post ever since.
At the time of his election, Mr. Harmon was a suspect in
the U.S. attorney's corruption probe. "Dan Harmon..."states
a February 1990 U.S. Attorney's Office memorandum leaked to
the Arkansas press, "has been identified as a target in
this investigation." One of the cocaine dealers targeted in
the probe allegedly was connected to Mr. Harmon. The
dealer, the memo says, "may have been involved, indirectly,
in the murders of Kevin Ives and Don Henry." Mr. Harmon was
cleared in June 1991 when U.S. Attorney Banks announced
that he had found no evidence of drug-related misconduct by
officials.
It appeared that the crusade was over. But in 1993, Mrs.
Ives persuaded yet another new Saline County sheriff to
reopen the train deaths probe. Detective John Brown was
assigned the case. He says he was soon approached by a
high-ranking state official who told him "it would be best
if I just left this thing alone." But Mr. Brown did not
leave it alone. In fact, Mr. Brown says that he turned up a
new witness in the case. According to Mr. Brown, the
witness claims that he saw Mr. Harmon on the tracks the
night the boys were killed. Mr. Harmon dismisses the charge
as "totally ridiculous."
But the new witness appears to have triggered an FBI probe.
Mr. Brown says he was in the process of checking out the
allegation when he mentioned it to a local FBI official
who, much to Mr. Brown's surprise, immediately took the
witness into protective custody and polygraphed him. "The
FBI then said they were taking over the case and wanted
everything I had," Mr. Brown recalls.
Jean Duffey, the former drug task force head, says the FBI
contacted her in 1994--three years after she fled the
state--telling her that a new investigation of the train
deaths and official corruption was under way, and asking
for her assistance. Linda Ives also says that after about
18 months of extensive contacts, the FBI broke off
communication with her last August, shortly after a summary
of the case was forwarded to current U.S. Attorney Paula
Casey.
In November, Mrs. Ives had a final meeting with FBI
officials. Apparently, the FBI was backing away from the
case, particularly the second autopsy. At the November
meeting, Mrs. Ives says, "FBI agent Bill Temple told me,
'It's time for you to realize a crime has never been
committed." Mrs. Ives and Ms. Duffey then went public with
the charge that the FBI was participating in a "cover-up"
of the controversial case.
The FBI has not responded to numerous requests for comment
on its agents' conversations with Mrs. Ives. In virtually
the only FBI comment on the case, I.C. Smith, the Little
Rock FBI chief, gave a brief interview to the local Benton
Courier in which he denied that his office was covering
anything up. He said that the main obstacle was "the very
real problem of determining whether federal jurisdiction
would apply." Mr. Smith also suggested that Agent Temple
had been "misquoted" and would not have spoken in such a
"cold-hearted manner" to Mrs. Ives.
Mrs. Ives sticks to her story, and ridicules Mr. Smith's
suggestion that jurisdiction might be at issue. "It's a
federal corruption probe they've been working for 18
months," she says. "It's ludicrous to believe the FBI would
work a case that long without knowing if they have
jurisdiction."
In a memo on the Benton Courier article sent to Mr. Smith
(and also sent to six Arkansas media outlets), Ms. Duffey
says Mrs. Ives's account of the conversation was confirmed
by Phyllis Cournan, another FBI agent in the room at the
time. Ms. Duffey's memo also says that in 1994 Ms. Cournan
told her that the FBI had recommended that Mr. Banks, then
the U.S. Attorney, be charged with obstructing justice. Mr.
Banks, now in private practice in Little Rock, did not
respond to requests for comment.
Meanwhile, Dan Harmon has again been making news in
Arkansas. His ex-wife, Holly DuVall, was arrested Nov. 30
after making a call from Mr. Harmon's phone to an
undercover agent to buy a small amount of Methamphetamine.
Eleven days earlier, she had made news when local police
searched her rented condominium near Hot Springs at the
manager's request, following an altercation. They found an
empty cocaine evidence package that should have been locked
in the safe at Mr. Harmon's drug task force; federal
investigators were soon visiting the condo and Mr. Harmon's
office.
On March 18, Ms. Duffey went public with charges against
Mr. Harmon on a local TV broadcast, "The Pat Lynch Show."
One newspaper, the Malvern Daily Record, ran with the
story, under the headline "Duffey alleges Harmon at scene
of teens' murder." Four days later, Mr. Harmon announced
that he was a Democratic candidate in the primary for
Saline County sheriff.
The next day, he was arrested on felony kidnapping and
aggravated assault charges after allegedly dragging Ms.
DuVall from her car and taking her on a 100-mile-per-hour
ride. After a few days in jail and a brief hunger strike,
Mr. Harmon held a press conference to deny kidnapping Ms.
DuVall and denounce his arrest as a "political" move to
undermine him. In regard to the train deaths allegations,
Mr. Harmon says he plans to sue Ms. Duffey, Mr. Lynch and
the Malvern Daily Record.
In mid-January the state cut off funding for Mr. Harmon's
drug task force, and on Jan. 28 the Arkansas Democrat-
Gazette reported that "Federal investigators are said to be
building a racketeering case against people associated with
the now-defunct Seventh Judicial District Drug Task Force."
Arkansas State Police officials confirm that a corruption
probe is under way. Mr. Harmon is not worried. "Nobody has
questioned me," he says. "Nobody has informed me I'm a
target. It's all just innuendo in the local press.
The results of any continuing federal investigation
touching on the Ives and Henry deaths will be presented to
Mr. Bank's successor as U.S. attorney for the Eastern
District. So Linda Ives' crusade will end up in the hands
of Ms. Casey, the longtime Clinton ally and campaign worker
who recused herself from Whitewater cases only after making
several crucial decisions. President Clinton appointed her
U.S. attorney in Little Rock in August 1993, shortly after
his unprecedented demand for the immediate resignation of
all sitting U.S. attorneys. Mrs. Ives says she is not
optimistic about Ms. Casey. "But then," she adds, "it's not
like I'm going to go away, either.
END OF ARTICLE
SOME ADDITONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE TRAIN DEATHS:
1. With regard to Dr. Malak, in 1992 the Los Angeles times
also documented that he falsified the "cause" of death 20
times.
2. Raymond Albright - Murdered 1992 - Actual cause of death
was murder. Albright was shot 5 times in chest and Malak
ruled the cause of death "suicide".
3. James Dewey Milam - Murdered - Milam had information on
the deaths of Ives and Henry. Malak's initial ruling was an
ULCER. Milam was decapitated. Malak concluded that the
family pet had eaten the entire head and regurgitated the
head later on. Unfortunately for Malak, the entire head was
later found intact in a trash bin just a couple blocks away
from the initial area where the body was found. Malak made
up the entire story.
4. Keith Coney - Murder and cover-up May 1988 - Keith had
initially been with Kevin Ives and Don Henry the night of
the train death. He told relatives that "law enforcement"
officials were responsible for murdering Kevin and Don. 2
days later he was killed while riding his Motorcycle at
very high speed being chased by a vehicle. According to
some officers, his throat had been slashed by his
attackers. Ruled a traffic accident. No autopsy done.
5. Keith McKaskle - Murdered Nov. 1988 - Keith was
allegedly at tracks that night with Kevin and Don. He
turned over the information he knew to Richard Garrett,
Deputy Prosecutor. He immediately told everything he knew
to his family and also told his family that he had told the
"wrong" people what he knew when he told Garrett the
information. He was so convinced that he was going to be
murdered he arranged his funeral, told family and friends
good-bye. Within days he was stabbed 113 times. The night
of local elections in 1988, Keith laid 2 cents on the
Wagonwheel tavern bar and said if Jim Steed wins this
sheriff election tonight my life's not worth 2 cents.He was
right.
6. Gregory Collins - Murdered Jan. 1989 - Greg had
information on the Ives and Henry murders. He was scheduled
to appear at the grand jury and had been subpoened. He had
been shot in the face with a shotgun. It was ruled a
suicide. No autopsy was performed.
7. Boonie Bearden - Murdered under mysterious circumstances
March 1989 - He was a friend of both Greg Collins and Keith
Coney. He "vanished" without a trace. It was rumored he
knew exactly what had happened at the tracks. An anonymous
caller said he knew where he had been murdered. The police
found a piece of a shirt, nothing more. His body has never
been recovered.
8. Jeff Rhodes - Murdered April 1989 - He told his family
he knew too much about the murders of Kevin, Don and
McKaskle's murders. His body was found in a trash dump. He
had severe gunshot blasts to the head, his hands and feet
had been partially sawn off, he was possibly tortured and
then burned.
9. Richard Winters - Murdered in July 1989 - Winters was a
possible suspect in the deaths of Ives and Henry. He was
cooperating and was to be a witness for Don and Kevin
within the Grand Jury. He was gunned down in cold blood via
a shotgun blast to his face in a robbery which has been
proven to be a set-up.
9. Jordan Ketelsen - Murdered June 1990 - Jordan was
believed to be connected to the murder of Mckaskle. He was
shot at point blank range in the head via a shotgun in his
pickup truck. There was no police investigation. No autopsy
was performed as the body was cremated quickly.
10. Mike Samples - Murdered June 1995 - Mike was another
grand jury witness for Don and Kevin. He was reported as
knowing a great deal about the deaths of Ives and Henry.
Sources say he had been involved with picking up drugs that
were dropped out of planes at the Mena drop sites. He was
shot to death in the head and was not found for some time.
11. John Hillyer - Murdered - NBC cameraman and
investigator who brought much of the initial Mena findings
to the publics attention. It cost him his life.
Note: Authorities(investigators) have denied any connection
between these cases and the Kevin Ives/Don Henry murders!
There is great fear that they will implicate very powerful
people within the Arkansas Power circle.
SUSPECTS IMPLICATED IN IVES/HENRY MURDERS & COVER-UP:
Dan Harmon - Prosecutor
Richard Garrett - Deputy Prosecutor
Jim Steed - Sheriff
Jay Campbell - Pulaski County sheriff's deputy
Kirk Lane - Pulaski County sheriff's deputy
Danny Allen - Officer
Larry Rochelle - at the tracks that night.
ADDITIONAL OFFICIALS WHO SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND COVER-UP:
Bill Clinton - President
Michael Fitzhugh - U.S. attorney
Chuck Banks - U.S. attorney
Floyd Hays - FBI Agent
John Cole - Judge, Saline County
Rick Elmendorf - former Saline County head investigator
under Sheriff Jim Steed.
Don Birdsong - State Police liason to Governor Clinton.
Fahmy Malak - Former Ark.State Medical Examiner
Jocelyn Elders - Former Ark. State Health Dept. Director
SOME PREVIOUS QUOTES ON VIDEO:
Sharline Wilson - " The people at the track that night, to
my knowledge were Dan Harmon, Keith McKaskle, Larry
Rochelle. I do know that the boys were watching the drop
site, O.K.? And they got curious as to what was being
dropped there." - The Clinton Chronicles
John Brown - Former Saline County Criminal Investigator - "
The fact is, we know who killed these kids." - The Clinton
Chronicles
SOME ADDITIONAL NOTES:
Pat Matrisciana of Citizens For Honest Government is being
sued by Pulaski County sheriff's deputies Jay Campbell and
Kirk Lane, the two officers who are alleged of
participating in the Ives/Henry deaths and seen by more
than one witness at the tracks. They state that the Clinton
Chronicles video wrongly accused them. Also John Brown
secretly switched sides in what he believes happened in his
"comments" on the video and gave a sworn affidavit to the
the attorneys representing Campbell and Lane, basically
stating his comments were taken out of context! Yeah, right
John, that's why you ordered 300 copies of the video which
you never paid for and distributed, including in
Congressman Livingstone's office. John, you showed the
video in your campaign for Sheriff of Saline County. You
promoted the video on Jane Chastain's radio program
because, according to Jane, "you wanted the truth to get
out." In an interview with John Bennett you stated, "as far
as I can tell, everything on the video is 100% accurate."
You told Lt. Col. Tom McKenney, Jean Duffey, and Linda
Ives, that you personally believed Campbell and Lane had
killed the two boys. John, you know what happened. Is
someone threatening your family or you personally? Speak up
John, I can't hear you.
Also, Dan Harmon, in one day, was convicted of 4 drug
charges Monday, April 14, 1998. On Wednesday, June 11,
1997, Dan Harmon was found guilty of five of eleven federal
felony charges, including racketeering by using his office
to get drugs and money. However, the Harmon issue is
another whole story in itself, and none of these charges
have anything to do with the "TRAIN DEATHS.
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