Posted by kskiska on Apr-11-03 at 11:21 PM
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 11 — When American tanks opened fire
on a car driving up Highway 1 on Baghdad's southern
outskirts in the dusk of Monday evening, it was only one
of hundreds of such incidents in the war in Iraq that
changed the life of an Iraqi family in an instant. But
that moment also changed an American life, that of Cpl.
Jeff Mager, 22, of Chicago, a gunner on an Abrams tank
that carries the legend "Bush and Co." on its barrel.
(snip)
Ali Rashid Handi, 40, a surviving older brother standing
atop the grave, 40 paces from Corporal Mager, had pointed
at his dead brothers and said: "We wanted freedom, we
wanted democracy, and this is what we got. Is this what
you Americans call freedom?"
(snip)
Corporal Mager watched, and appeared lost in thought.
Then he looked up, with a sadness that was beyond
affectation, and asked that a message be passed to the
Iraqis, a message for himself, and for America. "Tell
them the fact that I pulled the trigger that killed some
of these people makes me very unhappy," he said. "Tell
them that America did not want things to happen this way.
Tell them that I wish that Iraqis will live a better
life."
Then he clambered back on the tank, and it drove away.
more . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/12/international/worldspecial/12SCEN.html
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"God, how sad is that?"
Posted by deutsey on Apr-11-03 at 11:26 PM
I know I'm being "henny penny" and all, according to
Rumsfeld, by focusing on such negativity. <PUKE>
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"poor guy"
Posted by JI7 on Apr-11-03 at 11:29 PM
assholes sending people over there to fight and when they
come back they most likely wont have health care provided
to deal with these issues. hey, but at least the statue
came down.
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"How long is that going to haunt him?? Hurts."
Posted by Lars39 on Apr-11-03 at 11:32 PM
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"How Long?"
Posted by Butch on Apr-11-03 at 11:42 PM
Actually, if he's like Vietnam vets, it will haunt him
the rest of his life. He'll never be normal again. He'll
have nightmares and flash backs the rest of his life, if
he's anything like Vietnam vets. He will never get over
it. If he's married, his wife will probably end up
leaving him. If he was planning on getting married, this
will probably end that. The guilt is something a lot of
people simply can't deal with. It messes up their whole
lives.
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"agreed have a couple of Vietnam vet friends"
Posted by salin on Apr-12-03 at 00:05 AM
and describes some of their experiences emotions.
Haunting.
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"Almost without exception . . ."
Posted by TeeYiYi on Apr-12-03 at 00:12 AM
. . every Vietnam Vet I've ever met had problems with
addiction. Most were alcoholics and many were hooked on
heroin that they began abusing while still in Nam. . .
TYY
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"And this is why all wars seem to be started by those
that never"
Posted by Old and In the Way on Apr-12-03 at 01:32 AM
have served in wars themselves. Perhaps if these
Chickenhawk leaders and propagandists had actually served
in combat, they'd be far less quicker to commit troops in
place of diplomacy.
Our soldiers will be disgarded after the war, their
usefulness to this administration finished. I can only
imagine the falloiut of these wars 5 years from now.
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"I only wish that Shrub had been there to "console"
everyone!"
Posted by PartyPooper on Apr-11-03 at 11:34 PM
And, "Bush and Co." on it's barrel?!? For heaven's sake--
that is far too disgusting!
My God, this is so insane! Everyone has lost in this
"war".
Especially, the Iraqi people. But, this soldier will
carry this experience with him the rest of his life. I
feel very sorry for all of them.
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"Bush and Co."
Posted by Butch on Apr-11-03 at 11:46 PM
The term "Bush and Co." is actually a slam against W. The
whole quote reads, "Bush and Co., formerly The United
States of America." See, it isn't what you thought it
was.
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"I've had that sticker plastered on my car since the
selection."
Posted by leesa on Apr-12-03 at 00:34 AM
This war is so tragic and its barely begun
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""America did not want things to happen this way""
Posted by arcane1 on Apr-11-03 at 11:37 PM
No SHIT! We've been in the goddamn streets since last
year trying to STOP this!!
And I'll be out there tomorrow too
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"Be careful"
Posted by Butch on Apr-11-03 at 11:51 PM
The police are now shooting demonstrators with wooden
bullets, so be careful. Be especially careful when your
back is turned because that's when they shot the Oakland
demonstrators. Peace!
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"Support our troops...?"
Posted by acerbic on Apr-11-03 at 11:49 PM
an Abrams tank that carries the legend "Bush and Co." on
its barrel.
What "our" troops?
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"And...."
Posted by Lib56 on Apr-11-03 at 11:57 PM
For what?
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"terrible"
Posted by trumper on Apr-12-03 at 02:20 AM
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