Dating?
Anonymous User
>Hi, my name is Mary and I am new to this ng. I am recently single and
>was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the plus size
>dating services?
* Do fat women have problems finding a romantic partner?
This was written in response to a fat acceptance advocate who claimed that
40% of men are willing to date women over the Met Life chart healthy range.
Let's take your most optimistic scenario - 40% of men are willing to date
women over the insurance company chart ideal weight range.
Note that this is the appraisal of the situation from the point of view of
a fat acceptor not the malevolent worst case scenario of a sinister troll.
And yet even these numbers paint a grim picture when viewed in the light of
some other relevant numbers.
In the United States 35% of all women were obese in 1991. Fine, you might
say, that means that they have 40% of men available so there's actually a
surplus of datable dudes vying for their affection.
Unfortunately for that rosy scenario you didn't say 40% are willing to date
obese women, you said 40% are willing to date women fatter than the
insurance charts ideal weight.
It turns out that, according to a Harris poll, as of 1996 74% of Americans
were overweight based on the Met Life charts! And that was using the 1983
charts which actually allow one to be fatter than the 1959 charts!
Now as far as I know women actually tend to be more overweight than men but
for the sake of argument (and because I don't have a breakdown by sex in
front of me) let's say that 74% of women are overweight.
40% of American men = 52 million. That is the available dating pool for fat
women.
74% of women who are overweight = 96.2 million.
Which leaves 44.2 million women dateless! (one caveat - I don't calculate
the percentage of men and women who are of dating age - I don't have those
numbers - so the exact numbers of various groups within the population is
actually somewhat less than indicated but the basic ratios should hold true)
So your statement, which was intended to refute my central point, actually
confirms it!
There are too many fat women and not enough fat-accepting men to go around.
In fact almost HALF of all fat women, if your numbers are to be believed,
will not be able to find a man who finds them attractive!
But the situation is almost certainly worse for those who are likely to be
fat acceptors - that is to say those who are immensely obese - than it
appears.
A woman 20 pounds above the Met Life chart weights is still quite
acceptable to many men. But add another 80 pounds and the pool of willing
dates drops precipitously.
Indeed I'd say that of those 40% willing to date an overweight woman about
3/4ths are only willing to date a woman 20-30 pounds above ideal weight.
Now you can say that's not a scientific number and you'd be right but it
matches my experience. A girl with a pretty face whose weight is
distributed nicely (doesn't lose her waist) will still have plenty of
options for about the first 25 pounds above that dreaded Met Life ideal.
It's girls like this that most guys are talking about when they say they
like a little meat on the bones. They are NOT saying they desire morbidly
obese bowling balls.
Once you get much above that pleasingly plump range things get ugly real
fast. Facial features become distorted by a layer of fat that spreads to
every part of the body. In most women the waist fills up with a layer of
blubber. Smooth skin transforms into a hideous cellulite-ridden hide. The
beautiful lines of the hourglass figure are overwhelmed by bloat, the
muscular structure loses all definition and limbs become swollen sausage
links.
At this point a woman will be viewed as completely asexual by most men. If
I had to put a number on it I'd say 95%+ of men find extreme obesity either
asexual or outright repulsive.
I would also note that fat men don't do that well either.
There is also this anecdotal evidence inadvertantly supplied by a pro-fat
poster:
deke.sp...@generous.net wrote:
>Go to a PWP meeting or any singles dance. You will find
>that there are 4-12 times as many women as men. The ratios are *not*
>different
>when you go to a fat dance.
If fat women are in demand why aren't men flocking to these dances?
My suggestion: lose weight before you throw your whole life away the way
the 330 pounders have.
hth
Jackie 'Anakin' Tokeman
Yes, Jackie is indeed the troll of all trolls!
-"Marie" <be...@globalnet.co.uk> sings my praises
messageid: <7l7e8l$rtl$1...@gxsn.com>
Anonymous User
>tokeman wrote:
>>"My suggestion: lose weight before you throw your whole life away the
>>way the 330 pounders have."
>
>websites and being a troll constitutes a meaning for existence?
nah, it's just something that amuses me.
>Talk
>about throwing away a life!
usenet is a hobby.
morbid obesity is 24/7
Anonymous User
>Let me try that again. I was a little distracted while typing.
yeah, put those cheesy poofs down and get to work!
>And might I add...
>
>I know that you feel that you are in some way superior to all of us
>lowly 'fatties" but if you really had a life you would be doing
>something more productive than trying
'trying'?
hhh
>to insult people you don't even
>know.
even donald trump has hobbies.
>Do you really think you are saying something orginial or
>something we have never heard before?
no, but i say it with style.
i thought shambling shoggoth was pretty cool.
>Do you think we are not immune
>to people like you after listening to drivel like yours for a life time?
if you were you would not need a fat acceptance kult to shore up your shaky
self esteem.
hth
>Have you driven everyone out of your personal life?
i get by with a little help from my friends.
>That would come as
>no surprise.
don't you wish.
>You are a sad, pathetic human being who may or may not be
>thin but is truly ugly in the ways that count.
is the tiger ugly when it slaughters the gazelle?
Jackie 'Anakin' Tokeman
no further questions yerhonner
Anonymous User
>> wondering if anyone here has any experience with the plus size
>>dating services?
>
>5 to
>1, women to men
gee, i can't imagine why...
Jackie 'Anakin' Tokeman
heh heh heh heh heh...
Lori McDaniel
interesting to see the concept of "misery loves company" in action. Some
people hate themselves so much and have such miserable lives that the only
way they can attempt to feel better is to try to bring others down with
them. It's like an addiction, a temporary high. And being temporary, it is
only sustained by coming back and trying again, over and over, to no avail,
of course. That is why Anonymous User is here.
What Anonymous User doesn't understand is: 1) most, if not all, of us have
learned his/her secret by now, and therefore we alternate between amusement
and pity when reading his/her posts (not quite the intended emotions, I
think); 2) there's absolutely nothing he/she can come up with that we
haven't heard before; and 3) people aren't quite the victims he/she would
like them to be...I can't remember the last time I allowed someone to hurt
me.
It amuses you? Well good, then...we are all amused! Stick around for
laughs.
Lori.
Anonymous User wrote:
> fool...@webtv.net oinked:
> >tokeman wrote:
> >>"My suggestion: lose weight before you throw your whole life away the
> >>way the 330 pounders have."
> >
> >Is guess in your limited little mind hanging out at fat acceptance
> >websites and being a troll constitutes a meaning for existence?
>
> nah, it's just something that amuses me.
>
> >Talk
> >about throwing away a life!
>
> usenet is a hobby.
> morbid obesity is 24/7
> hth
> Jackie 'Anakin' Tokeman
>
geekgrrl
<lor...@concentric.net> was heard to say
>I actually enjoy reading Anonymous User's posts when I have time.
Actually, I've stopped reading them entirely.. I just don't have the
time for them, and they bore me. It doesn't take long at all to push
'n' when I see one of their names come up in the header.
Latahs,
geekgrrl
Anonymous User
>I actually enjoy reading Anonymous User's posts when I have time.
well then i shall have to keep posting them.
are you a big fat slob?
do you have trouble wiping your own ass?
>It's
>interesting to see the concept of "misery loves company" in action.
actually that is wishful thinking
ever see a tiger rip apart a gazelle?
if so let me ask you the following:
did the tiger seem unhappy?
>Some
>people hate themselves so much and have such miserable lives that the only
>way they can attempt to feel better is to try to bring others down with
>them.
remember in school when the tough kids would torture the weak? remember how
the fat kid was always singled out for the worst tortures.
remember how the kids doing the torturing were fucking the hottest girls,
driving the koolest kars and smoking the best weed?
this is like that
only crueler
>It's like an addiction, a temporary high. And being temporary, it is
>only sustained by coming back and trying again, over and over, to no avail,
>of course.
that's not what several dozen fat acceptors said as they left this
newsgroup never to return.
or what those who pushed through the moderated group said when they
admitted that this newsgroup has been completely destroyed.
hhh
>What Anonymous User doesn't understand is: 1) most, if not all, of us have
>learned his/her secret by now,
you know nothing.
how do i know?
simple. i know me.
and if you had any idea would not write such foolish things.
>and therefore we alternate between amusement
>and pity when reading his/her posts (not quite the intended emotions, I
>think);
just
keep
telling
yourself
that
>2) there's absolutely nothing he/she can come up with that we
>haven't heard before;
you write like a cancerous bloated pusbag
>and 3) people aren't quite the victims he/she would
>like them to be...I can't remember the last time I allowed someone to hurt
>me.
you don't 'allow' people to hurt you. they just do it. and you can't stop
them. no matter how much you post and whine and lobby and organize. they
despise you. they shun you. they laugh at you behind you back. and you can
never ever have what slender fit women have just by walking into the room
and smiling. and it burns you to the core of your weak sickly soul.
>It amuses you? Well good, then...we are all amused! Stick around for
>laughs.
i don't think most of them are amused...
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
dr. lecter has no interest in hypothesis. he doesn't believe in syllogism,
or synthesis, or any absolute.
what does he believe in?
chaos. and you don't even have to believe in it. it's self evident.
- hannibal
khunk...@gmail.com
We have discussed gastric bypass but, she has annual physicals and the only problem is blood pressure which she keeps under control with medication. I decided to let her live her own life as long as she remains relatively healthy and eat what she wants and not take weight control pills or go on those silly diets either.
We are happy together and, isn't that all that really counts? anyone that disapproves is not a true friend anyway and the people that snicker or giggle are just juvenile in their behavior. Let anyone think what they want, she is a great gal and anyone that took the time to look past her physical appearance would see that.