The Leg Thing
Mariner
I'm new to the group and delurking. Couldn't help notice a couple of
veiled references to John Thaw's limp. I'm sure it's been answered
before, but can someone let me in on it? To me, it looks almost as if he
has an artificial limb...BookMorse doesn't limp, does he?
Michael
judith lawrence
do you really want to open that can of worms. I'm sure Allison and Helen
will be glad to reveal all.
--
Judy L Uni...@gte.net
Mariner wrote in message <6pbhr7$p...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
tmc...@gateway.net
Mariner <Mar...@TheHelm.nospam.com> wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> I'm new to the group and delurking. Couldn't help notice a couple of
> veiled references to John Thaw's limp. I'm sure it's been answered
> before, but can someone let me in on it? To me, it looks almost as if he
> has an artificial limb...BookMorse doesn't limp, does he?
>
> Michael
>
I don't know if you can or do post through DejaNews, but if you have access
to DN check their archive for a.f.i-m. Look for posts under "The Limp,"
starting in late May of this year. An intriguing alternative hypothesis to
the "artificial limb" theory was proposed by Cool1Guy which has generated
much highly insightful commentary by the female (mostly) members of a.f.i-m.
We always welcome the male perspective!
Maria
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Max Shreck
>To me, it looks almost as if he
>has an artificial limb...
I've read numerous postings to this effect over the years, and what's odd is
that the one thing his gait *doesn't* make me think of is an artificial limb.
Maybe it's because I actually knew someone with an artificial limb, and their
gait was the opposite of JT's -- even though their prosthesis was probably the
best money could buy, the ankle really didn't flex at all. As opposed to JT's,
which flexes too much. However, she did have to lift her hip up pretty high so
her leg would clear the ground. JT does something similar, and maybe that's
what's confusing people.
BTW, if you saw "Into the Blue," you saw a shot of his legs, which are
obviously original equipment and which have nothing visible wrong with them.
As I've been watching the A&E broadcasts, I've been noticing that JT actually
seems *better* at running and navigating stairs than he is at walking. Well, to
be more precise, it's not that he seems to have any actual trouble walking,
it's more that the problem is more apparent then. Oh, how I wish we had an
anatomist around to tell us whether this is typical for people with this type
of gait abnormality! (BTW: it was the opposite for my artificial-limbed
acquaintance. She struggled on stairs and, while she was able to walk very
fast, it wasn't what you could properly call "running.")
-- Max
Max Shreck
<question about Thaw's/Morse's gait snipped>
Thank you, Judy and Maria, for answering Mariner's question. I was beginning to
think I was the only fool who'd rush in to answer these queries! Also, Mariner,
take a look at my answer to someone else's request for the same information
about a week ago under the "Morse's Limp" thread.
And now, a message to the regulars, the SCMNers, the "hussy posse" as we have
taken to referring to them around this house...
1. A new entry in the endless stream of puns -- if "This Weenie" doesn't suit
you as a nickname for "The Sweeney," how about a new one: "The Sway Knee"?
2. I've noticed that most newsgroups either have a) a FAQ to answer these types
of recurring questions or b) a clique-ish attitude and a tendency to ignore or
flame anyone who asks about their weird rituals. Of course, the *last* thing I
would want is for us to be like *other* newsgroups. Still, what does anyone
think of the idea of just referring this kind of query to Deja News? I mean, I
did just write a mini-manifesto (one of many) on the topic about a week ago,
and now Maria's written another one; maybe we could mark the dates and send the
curious packing to DN to do their research? ("The Leg Thing," 7/25/98; "Morse's
Leg," 7/18/98, which both refer to the original discussion.)
Or does everyone enjoy rehashing this very naughty topic? I mean, I do like
rehashing it, of *course*, it's just Limp 101 that's getting old. Hey! -- maybe
a FAQ, with Q in this case standing for a singular "Question," and just
discussing the limp? What does anyone think? Too non-a.f.i-m? Or could it fly?
Perhaps my 7/18 post from the recent "Morse's Leg" could serve as a
proto-Frequently Asked Question. Maybe I'll rework it a bit and post it and see
what anyone thinks. Might take me a couple days, but look for it.
Or the alternative is to leave newbies twisting, twisting in the wind,
wondering what the hell we're talking about, as some NGs do. But hey, we're not
like that -- we're *nice* people. Anyway, I've noticed that a lot of delurkers
don't stay long even though they're welcomed. Maybe they're scared off! Maybe
it takes intrepid Viking blood to stay in this fray! (Hej Swedish boys!)
-- Max
Mariner
>
> >
>
> I don't know if you can or do post through DejaNews, but if you have access
> to DN check their archive for a.f.i-m. Look for posts under "The Limp,"
> starting in late May of this year. An intriguing alternative hypothesis to
> the "artificial limb" theory was proposed by Cool1Guy which has generated
> much highly insightful commentary by the female (mostly) members of a.f.i-m.
> We always welcome the male perspective!
>
> Maria
>
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Well, good...
I mean, it's a lot easier for me to spend 25 minutes on Dejanews looking
through every damn post that mentions "the Limp" (and eventually finding
the answer) than it is for someone here on the group to simply answer
the question. Thanks all for your help.
Michael
Max Shreck
Mariner wrote:
>Well, good...
>
>I mean, it's a lot easier for me to spend 25 minutes on Dejanews looking
>through every damn post that mentions "the Limp" (and eventually finding
>the answer) than it is for someone here on the group to simply answer
>the question. Thanks all for your help.
>
>Michael
Testy, *testy*, Michael!
Really, now; common Usenet etiquette calls for posters to lurk for a while
before they post. I had just posted a rather comprehensive answer to this very
same question a mere seven days ago, on a thread plainly called "Morse's Leg."
Traffic on this NG is pretty light. It wouldn't have killed you to read the
last 7 days' posts.
I think we were fairly generous to not flame you even the tiniest bit for not
reading the current, clearly labeled thread on the same topic. I even pointed
you to last week's reply to the same question. And it would have been
appropriate for you to wait more than about 12 hours after your post before
deciding that we're all unhelpful. Most of the regulars here probably haven't
even seen your post yet.
Normally I wouldn't bother to reply to trolls, and I'd encourage others not to
either. But the "tmcole" you so rudely dissed is my pal, and you gave her an
uncalled-for slap on her cyber-face. And for her sake, I'd like to tell the
group that I think your response was pretty tacky.
-- Max
mc...@my-dejanews.com
Mariner <Mar...@TheHelm.nospam.com> wrote:
> Well, good...
>
> I mean, it's a lot easier for me to spend 25 minutes on Dejanews looking
> through every damn post that mentions "the Limp" (and eventually finding
> the answer) than it is for someone here on the group to simply answer
> the question. Thanks all for your help.
>
> Michael
>
Had I known that you wanted a specifc answer I would have replied briefly and
rudely: No, he doesn't have an artifical leg. Sorry I wasted so much of your
time.
tmc...@gateway.net
maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) wrote:
>
> I've read numerous postings to this effect over the years, and what's odd is
> that the one thing his gait *doesn't* make me think of is an artificial limb.
> Maybe it's because I actually knew someone with an artificial limb, and their
> gait was the opposite of JT's -- even though their prosthesis was probably the
> best money could buy, the ankle really didn't flex at all. As opposed to JT's,
> which flexes too much. However, she did have to lift her hip up pretty high so
> her leg would clear the ground. JT does something similar, and maybe that's
> what's confusing people.
>
> BTW, if you saw "Into the Blue," you saw a shot of his legs, which are
> obviously original equipment and which have nothing visible wrong with them.
Same with "A Year in Provence". Several scenes with JT in shorts (and the
pool) and not a prosthetic device in sight!
>
> As I've been watching the A&E broadcasts, I've been noticing that JT actually
> seems *better* at running and navigating stairs than he is at walking. Well, to
> be more precise, it's not that he seems to have any actual trouble walking,
> it's more that the problem is more apparent then. Oh, how I wish we had an
> anatomist around to tell us whether this is typical for people with this type
> of gait abnormality!
Max, ask and ye shall receive-- Assuming a gait problem that required
bending or flexing the leg and knee to get one's foot off the ground, those
actions aren't required for normal walking so they would appear abnormal. To
run or to climb stairs, you need to flex both your hip and knee and the same
actions would be part of normal running and walking. What looks "different"
in walking is normal for running/climbing.
(BTW: it was the opposite for my artificial-limbed
> acquaintance. She struggled on stairs and, while she was able to walk very
> fast, it wasn't what you could properly call "running.")
Exactly, prostetic legs simply don't "bend" in the same manner as real ones
(unless you pay -- don't say it -- an arm and a leg) and are probably
designed for greatest ease of walking.
>
Maria (thankful that all those years in Anatomy lab are finally paying off)
Don Arnold
tmc...@gateway.net wrote:
> In article <199807251541...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) wrote:
> >
>
> > BTW, if you saw "Into the Blue," you saw a shot of his legs, which are
> > obviously original equipment and which have nothing visible wrong with them.
>
> Same with "A Year in Provence". Several scenes with JT in shorts (and the
> pool) and not a prosthetic device in sight!
>
>
However, if you saw Granada's version of The Sign of Four, Thaw played the wooden
legged Jonathan Small with a great deal of realism.
Don Arnold
donald...@mindspring.com
HelenS24
It's true that The Limp is . . . well . . . tired for those of us who have been
playing with it all this time. One suggestion though, don't put dates in
numbers (7/18/98) since America is one of the few, if not only country that
writes the date mm/dd/yy. Instead, how about writing out the month: July (or
Jul) 18, 1998? That way our European friends won't get confused if we have to
refer them to Feb 6, 199x.
This Weenie vs The Sway Knee? Hmm. I think the second one is best.
Helen S.
(Who wishes she had a real A/C unit in the house rather than the awful
evaperator coolers. Southern California is simply too humid for those damn
coolers!)
tmc...@gateway.net
I agree with Helen. The FAQ is a great idea. Max's post on The Limp would be
a good general response for that query, and Helen's idea about the dates is
also good. Perhaps we could work in the IMDB listing of JT & KW (probably
James Grout as well) other TV and film work and links to the Sub-Orbital and
Alison's new page (Hint: Alsion, get that baby up and running) and to the
Sweeney ("Sway Knee"!!) home page. Now, what do we do next?
Maria
Max Shreck
>I agree with Helen. The FAQ is a great idea. Max's post on The Limp would be
>a good general response for that query, and Helen's idea about the dates is
>also good. Perhaps we could work in the IMDB listing of JT & KW (probably
James >Grout as well) other TV and film work and links to the Sub-Orbital and
Alison's
>new page (Hint: Alsion, get that baby up and running) and to the
Sweeney ("Sway >Knee"!!) home page. Now, what do we do next?
Woah thar!
(Max heaves a deep sigh.) Isn't *anyone* reading my gosh-darn posts? First
Alison has to fire off 17 e-mails to find the date and title of the Avengers
episode, even though I'd posted them already, and then the Frequently Asked
Question -- singular -- that I proposed turns into a full-fledged FAQ! Dang it
all!
As I posted, I plan to work up an FAQ -- singular "Question" -- to answer the
leg thing. That's all I really think we need, to be honest, because that's
really the one question whose answer is not readily available on, say, the
Internet Movie Database, the Sub-Orb, or the Sweeney website. Other general
questions seldom come up. We could always put the links to the above into the
FAQuestion; why reinvent the wheel? Or am I wrong? Are many/most of us gung-ho
for a full FAQ?
The limp thing is by far the most frequently asked question. What I'll do is
work up an answer and submit it to the ng for any comments or corrections. Then
I propose that some of us keep it on our hard drives and whoever sees a
newbie's question first can post it. Many NGs post it every month, but I think
ad hoc posting would probably work better for us; we've never been the formal,
anal-retentive types anyway. Or I could just be the keeper of it, if y'all
want; I check in pretty often.
We'll work something out, I'm sure.
-- Max
(optimistic despite dreadful burnout)
judith lawrence
seem to be getting too serious. Did anyone save those masterpieces so we
can let everyone in on the fun? I'm afraid to paraphrase. Don't want to
give the wrong person credit!
--
Judy L Uni...@gte.net
Don Arnold wrote in message <35BC1164...@mindspring.com>...
cyn...@my-dejanews.com
hele...@aol.com (HelenS24) wrote:
> Regarding Max's idea of a FAQ file for a.f.i-m: I think that's a great idea.
> It's true that The Limp is . . . well . . . tired for those of us who have
been > playing with it all this time.
ah well Helen, not ALL of us girls are tired of playing with John's er,
"limp"!!!! (blush!!) Are we Max? ALI? MARIA? JUDITH? ELAINE? and
theothers!!!?? :>))
Marie ("wickedly" tired tonight!) :>))
tmc...@gateway.net
I do read the replies, I just answer them badly. Max, my dear, I wasn't
trying to volunteer you for more than one singular response. I just thought
that since many people find the newsgroup first (okay, maybe some people)
that including the URLs to IMDB, Sub-Orbital, etc. somewhere might be a good
way to direct newbies to the bulk of the information. I was intending to
volunteer myself for that task, just as soon as someone tells me HOW to do
it.
If more questions need to be added, we could do it as needed.
Maria (off to find a suitable treasure to send Max, let's see, what's good for
dreadful burnout...)
Max Shreck
Maria wrote:
>I just thought
>that since many people find the newsgroup first (okay, maybe some people)
>that including the URLs to IMDB, Sub-Orbital, etc. somewhere might be a good
>way to direct newbies to the bulk of the information. I was intending to
>volunteer myself for that task, just as soon as someone tells me HOW to do
>it.
And right you are, as usual. And we could even include other interesting URLs
for further research, like that Daily Telegraph one you unearthed. And the SCMN
Tours home page, when we get one up and running ;^) ... And the ISAUFD web
page, too.
Thanks for the suggestion. And thanks, Helen, too, for mentioning the date
thing, which I never would've thought of.
-- Max
(Hey, you guys all know what ISAUFD is, right? The International Society for
Advancing the Understanding of Foot Drop? Their slogan is: "Limp? What limp?"
Okay, maybe it's not the catchiest slogan, but it's better than their old
slogan, "It's not a #@&% wooden leg, DAMMIT!")
Mariner
>
> In article <6pdmhr$3...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
> Mariner <Mar...@TheHelm.nospam.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Had I known that you wanted a specifc answer I would have replied briefly and
> rudely: No, he doesn't have an artifical leg. Sorry I wasted so much of your
> time.
>
> Maria
>
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My apologies, Maria, for being, uh...testy. I was out of line.
Michael
HelenS24
>I'm upset. The last time we talked about this, it was
> funny. Now, we all seem to be getting too serious.
I'm sorry Judy. I go in cycles between unbridled naughtyness and an almost
deressant calm. Oh dear! I've describe myself as a bit bi-polar.
AAAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!
Oops. Sorry.
>Did anyone save those masterpieces so we
>can let everyone in on the fun? I'm afraid to
> paraphrase. Don't want to give the wrong person
> credit!
And how!! I printed much of the early posts, including Guy!Cools starter. And
since I wrote the two short stories, you know I still have them on my
WordPerfect. Okay, you don't know I have WP, but you know I've got them on my
hard drive--very hard drive.
Helen S.
(Don't encourage me Judy. You know that I can go over the top. Oh heck! Why
don't I do a little reposting?)
HelenS24
stories via e-mail, and then he'll have a better idea of what we hussies have
been up to. But I'll leave the official explaination to Max/Maria/whomever.
Helen S.
Max Shreck
Helen wrote:
>you'll just have to wait for me
>to post them online -- if I re-post them that is.
Helen, howzabout I mention them in the very-soon-to-come FAQuestion, along with
other salient threads?
-- Max
mc...@my-dejanews.com
You have the fabulous short stories! I've been trying to find those beauties
everywhere. Could you repost them?
And Judith, never fear, seriousness is only allowed on alternate days and in
discussion of literary works (and maybe TV episodes).
Mariner, welcome to the fray, and sorry I was a bit testy mtself in return.
Hope you enjoy getting to know us.
Mariner
Maria,
Thanks for the welcome. I was wrong in my second post; 'twas arrogance
and nothing more. Do I love Morse? Right down to the Morse Code that
spells his name in the theme song! And although I'll open up a
can'o'worms here, John Thaw is Morse, just as Jeremy Brett is/was
Holmes; I can't imagine better!
Anyway, it is clear that I should have listened more and whined less;
lesson learned. I'll Endeavour to do better...
Michael
Max Shreck
Helen wrote:
>>> Regarding Max's idea of a FAQ file for a.f.i-m: I think that's a great
idea.
>>> It's true that The Limp is . . . well . . . tired for those of us who have
>>> been playing with it all this time.
Cy wrote:
>ah well Helen, not ALL of us girls are tired of playing with John's er,
>"limp"!!!! (blush!!) Are we Max? ALI? MARIA? JUDITH? ELAINE? and
>theothers!!!?? :>))
>Marie ("wickedly" tired tonight!) :>))
Cy, my dearest darling! Whenever did you change your name to Marie? Or is it
just a new addition to your list of pseudonyms?
To answer your question: No! I for one have just *begun* to play with John's,
ah, "limp"! And remember, none of us have even seen the aforementioned "limp"
in the flesh, so how can we be tired of it?
Anyway, hubby and I have been together over a decade and I still never tire of
playing with *his* "limp" (come to think of it, "limp" is quite the
misnomer...)! ... uh-oh! Duck! It's... (Monty Python theme begins playing,
plays throughout following segment)
***Another Mini-Manifesto from Max!***
Did anyone see an English movie, made about 10 years ago, called "Wish You Were
Here"? Briefly, it's about a girl in her mid-teens who moves in with her
father's fiftysomething friend, gets pregnant by him, and moves out on her own.
In one scene, she's found a job working in a very proper tearoom patronized by
blue-haired old biddies, and her father comes in to confront her while she's
working. He starts yelling at her about what a slut she is, and she says she's
not doing anything abnormal -- she gets onto a table and screams, "I LIKE
WILLIES!!!" She goes on to point at all the old ladies, yelling that they like
willies too, and it's *normal* for women to like willies, and what's wrong with
it?
I often think one of the many functions of this newsgroup is to serve as a
fairly harmless way for a bunch of horny, oxytocin-poisoned gals to get onto a
high perch and scream, "I LIKE WILLIES!" And it *is* normal! It's our most
important instinct! Where would the species be w/o women liking willies? We
have nothing to be ashamed of!
Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies, say it
LOUD & say it PROUD!
-- Max %^D <---(giddy)
Max Shreck
Odd that the topic of limps that spark false rumors of prosthetic limbs is
discussed in this week's TV Guide in an article about TV rumors, true and
false. ("Gunsmoke" is way before my time, so I haven't seen the gait under
discussion.)
The rumor: Dennis Weaver limped on "Gunsmoke" to mask James Arness' wooden leg.
For nine seasons, Weaver dragged a bum leg through Dodge City while serving as
trusted deputy Chester Goode to Arness' Marshal Matt Dillon. Legend had it he
was given the limp to draw attention from Arness, who had a prosthetic leg. In
truth, Arness, who had suffered a leg wound in World War II and did walk with a
slight limp, didn't have a wooden leg. So why Weaver's limp? The 6-foot-2 actor
recalls that he was given the infirmity because he wasn't inconspicuous enough
to qualify as a traditional sidekick. "They wanted him to be nonviolent,"
Weaver says, "and he had to have something to keep him out of the action."...
-- Max
HelenS24
>Helen, howzabout I mention them in the
> very-soon-to-come FAQuestion, along with
>other salient threads?
I'd be happy to, although Maria would love to have them reposted. Since she's
got the limpping hubby, I wouldn't want to disapoint her. :-)
Helen S.
HelenS24
>like willies, say it LOUD & say it PROUD!
If I had my Bible with me I would quote the verse, but I do believe the chapter
is Genesis 3. God has just kicked Adam & Eve out of the Garden and is dolling
out the punishments. To Eve he gives the curse of painful labor. However, he
also gives the promise that she will still desire her husband.
As long as it isn't in the White House, I'll take the slick willie.
Helen S.
(Monica Lewinsky holding her "Vanity Fair" says to Hester Prinn wearing her
Scarlett Letter, "You mean, when you did it, people like, got upset?")
Max Shreck
I wrote:
>>Helen, howzabout I mention them in the
>>very-soon-to-come FAQuestion, along with
>>other salient threads?
Helen wrote:
>I'd be happy to, although Maria would love to have them reposted. Since she's
>got the limpping hubby, I wouldn't want to disapoint her. :-)
A-*hem* -- my hubby also has a funky gait. A doctor diagnosed it as "triple
varus knee." I looked up "varus" in Stedman's Medical Dictionary, and now I
know it basically means bowlegged -- but I still fail to understand the
clinical significance of this diagnosis. "Triple"? He's not *that* bowlegged,
and it's more like double-jointed (he can bend his knee out and to the back a
little), and only one leg is affected... unless they're talking about his third
leg, which, take it from me, is NOT bowed! (unlike Clinton's, if one can
believe the stomach-churning reports...) Maria -- ah, Professor Cole -- can you
explain this "triple varus" thang?
Or maybe it's these stories that explain it all... <G!>
Helen, can I ask an itty bitty favor of you and an indulgence of the rest of
the NG? If you'd like me to refer to these stories in the FAQuestion, and I'd
be glad to, could you repost them under some more distinctive title so Deja
News searchers won't have to sift for them?
-- Max
(increasingly stunned by the demographic similarities among Thaw fans (she has
been conducting private research; perhaps she will post the results sometime)
-- even down to having limping husbands! It must be the oxytocin... the limp
stimulates the release of oxytocin... maybe the oxytocin post should be
referred to in the Deja News archive pointers too?)
mc...@my-dejanews.com
Mariner <Mar...@TheHelm.nospam.com> wrote:
> mc...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
<<wild, flagrant, willie (but not slick)-loving snipping>>
> Maria,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. I was wrong in my second post; 'twas arrogance
> and nothing more. Do I love Morse? Right down to the Morse Code that
> spells his name in the theme song! And although I'll open up a
> can'o'worms here, John Thaw is Morse, just as Jeremy Brett is/was
> Holmes; I can't imagine better!
>
> Anyway, it is clear that I should have listened more and whined less;
> lesson learned. I'll Endeavour to do better...
>
> Michael
Ladies - he likes Morse, knows that the one true Holmes was Jeremy Brett,
and has a witty turn of phrase. Maybe we should find out more. Michael, what
do you do in those long boring hours between postings? Actually, is anyone
else curious at to what most of "the regulars" do in the real world? I know
bits and pieces have come out in various posts, but I'm sort of curious as to
who we all are off the NG. Would that be okay to ask to would anyone consider
it an invasion of privacy?
Nosy Maria, cutting this short and off to watch the A&E butchered SoatD
Max Shreck
found them very nicely on Deja News and I'm going to identify them so anyone
else should be able to find them with no trouble.
-- Max
mc...@my-dejanews.com
maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) wrote:
> The rumor: Dennis Weaver limped on "Gunsmoke" to mask James Arness' wooden leg.
>
> For nine seasons, Weaver dragged a bum leg through Dodge City while serving as
> trusted deputy Chester Goode to Arness' Marshal Matt Dillon. Legend had it he
> was given the limp to draw attention from Arness, who had a prosthetic leg. In
> truth, Arness, who had suffered a leg wound in World War II and did walk with a
> slight limp, didn't have a wooden leg. So why Weaver's limp? The 6-foot-2 actor
> recalls that he was given the infirmity because he wasn't inconspicuous enough
> to qualify as a traditional sidekick. "They wanted him to be nonviolent,"
> Weaver says, "and he had to have something to keep him out of the action."...
>
> -- Max
>
Gawd - Gunsmoke. My first HUGE crush was on James Arness. Would this be a
bad time to mention that I have many (many, many) episodes on tape.
Morse and Dillon. A brazen hussy's dream come true.
Maria, beginning to worry that her carefully crafted demeanor of normality is
slipping, badly
Elaine Charlson - Sun IR/ENS EDS
> Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies, say it
> LOUD & say it PROUD!
Oh dear, I'm a shy Brit and don't think that I could quite shout it like that
<blush>
LN.
Max Shreck
> Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies, say
it
> LOUD & say it PROUD!
Elaine wrote:
>Oh dear, I'm a shy Brit and don't think that I could quite shout it like that
><blush>
Well, Elaine, what if you tried it? Perhaps when the one you love is near?
Might do wonders for ya! <sly g!>
But if you just can't, and you don't have the airfare to get to New York where
you'll learn how to yell, then... well, just whisper it to someone who'll know
what to do with the information!
-- Max
(polluting the world with brashness!)
mc...@my-dejanews.com
Elaine Charlson - Sun IR/ENS EDS <Elaine....@xxUK.Sun.COM> wrote:
> maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) writes:
>
> > Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies, say
it
> > LOUD & say it PROUD!
>
> <blush>
>
>
That's alright. As a somewhat lapsed Baptist, I don't think I could shout it
either. Why don't you and I stand in the background and mumble it, trying to
look innocent.
Maria
HelenS24
Oh good.
As to Maria's limpping husband: When I posted "The Limp" the first time, I
believe it was Maria that said her husband had had several strokes and now
limped. When he read my story, he laughed so hard that he nearly had another
stroke (according to Maria.)
Helen S.
HelenS24
> "the regulars" do in the real world?
Sure! Do you remember when Orange asked what everyone's backround was? I gave
him my answer, but no one else did (unless AOL never showed me those.) I
believe I've also mentioned that I work in a tax office and do bookkeeping
work.
And you?
Helen S.
Diane & Buck Weber
For moiself, I toil (and have for the lat 18 years) for the City of LA.
Started in the Library at 17, and never got out. The library was the
best gig for a reader-- one of my last jobs was processing all incoming
new books. I got first pick of every mystery (and then some), assuming
I could thumb-wrestle them away from the Senior Librarian or the
Children's Librarian -- also huge mystery fans. Four years at the
City's last operational landfill (a whole host of stories there, some
night when I've had a drink or two, I'll post the story of the
million-gallon water tank, and what Alice found there), and now I work
for the Retirement Dept. Married, one husband (also with an interesting
gait) two klepto cats and no kids. On purpose. I read anything I can
get my hands on, Morse being a fav, but I'm also partial to Lindsey
Davis' Roman detective Marcus Didius Falco. I'd get into the book
discussions, but I have a very bad habit concerning library books. I
can never remember to return the damn things. When I worked there,
things went out the back door with me, and came back when I was done.
The county isn't quite so forgiving when I'm a month and a half late
returning books. Did I mention I was a quarter Swedish? I continue to
enjoy lurking, though I've crawled out of the bushes more lately. At
the risk of getting flamed, how does one find the FAQ's for this ng?
I've LOL reading "The Limp" in it's condensed forms, but would love to
find the whole thing Max wrote up and I forgot to save anywhere. Till
later...
Diane
mc...@my-dejanews.com
hele...@aol.com (HelenS24) wrote:
> Maria wonders --
> > Actually, is anyone else curious at to what most of
> > "the regulars" do in the real world?
>
> Sure! Do you remember when Orange asked what everyone's backround was? I gave
> him my answer, but no one else did (unless AOL never showed me those.) I
> believe I've also mentioned that I work in a tax office and do bookkeeping
> work.
>
> And you?
>
> Helen S.
>
>
Actually, I did remember Helen's post, and her mention of potential flagrant
tax violations for SCMN tours. But I know little about most of the other
members except Cy and Max.
Moi - Born in Knoxville, Tennessee, proud Southerner and rabid football fan.
I teach Anatomy and Histology (Microanatomy in progressive institutions) at a
small osteopathic medical school in Kansas City. In my rapidly diminishing
spare time I try to do research. I'm interested in the design and
construction of the skeleton in very large animals (rhinos, elephants, and
dinosaurs). I dabble in forensics (identification of unidentified human
remains and spent a couple of years slumming around the Smithsonian doing
this - so all things dead and bizarre are of much interest). I have one
husband (Tim) and 4 cats (Lily, Brutus, Cleo, and Ozzie). My car is old, my
apartment a mess, and I'm taking banjo lessons. That about sums it up. Oh
yeah, my favorite novel is 'To Kill A Mockingbird."
mc...@my-dejanews.com
Sorry to disappoint, but 'tis not me. I'm pleased to inform everyone that Tim
has 1) never had a stroke (yet, although living with me could be a trial) and
2) does not limp. He actually motors about well for a tall man with boat
feet. Don't believe me? Ask Cy, she actually saw him at a baseball game last
night (hope she noticed we were yakking the whole time). However, Tim says he
is willing to limp for us, especially after I explained "The Limp."
Max Shreck
>Sorry to disappoint, but 'tis not me. I'm pleased to inform everyone that Tim
>has 1) never had a stroke (yet, although living with me could be a trial)
Oddly, I for one am not disappointed by the news about Tim's lack of strokes.
Paradoxically, I'm actually cheered! :^)
and
>2) does not limp. He actually motors about well for a tall man with boat
>feet. Don't believe me? Ask Cy, she actually saw him at a baseball game last
>night (hope she noticed we were yakking the whole time). However, Tim says he
>is willing to limp for us, especially after I explained "The Limp."
Yet -- this does not negate my comments about the demographic similarities
among Thaw fans. Also -- the James Arness thing, what with him being your first
big crush, and his limp & all -- how many men know the potential magnetism of a
li'l ol' limp? I mean, obviously Tim knows, now that you've explained it all,
and so does my hubby; but does JT know?
BTW, never seen "Gunsmoke" -- now you've got me all hot to get a copy! :-)
Incidentally, to my recollection it was... Judy's hubby? who limped. Judy, I
beg you to forgive me if I'm wrong! Remember: a limp is a *good* thing, a limp
is a *good* thing....
-- Max
(wondering if there'll be a rush to hire Tonya Harding's tire-iron-wielding
henchmen for leg-damaging purposes once the news gets out about limps...)
Elaine Charlson - Sun IR/ENS EDS
>
> Maria wonders --
> > Actually, is anyone else curious at to what most of
> > "the regulars" do in the real world?
>
> Sure! Do you remember when Orange asked what everyone's backround was? I gave
> him my answer, but no one else did (unless AOL never showed me those.) I
> believe I've also mentioned that I work in a tax office and do bookkeeping
> work.
>
> And you?
>
> Helen S.
>
Just take a look at my web page: http://www.ukuug.org/~e.charlson/
The things it doesn't mention are that I'm an avid reader of SF;
Fantasy; Mystery novels; History (Pre-Elizabethan back to Prehistoric);
books on Linguistics and Languages; Popular Science; Mythology; and
anything else that takes my fancy.
The current reading matter is the Ramses series of books by Christian
Jacq in the original French and "The Cambridge Encyclopaedia of the
English Language" with an occasional diversion into "Lady of Avalon"
by Marion Zimmer Bradley for light relief. I'm also trying to brush up
on some Russian before our new Russian student starts on Monday.
Apart from that, I'm a divorced English pagan living in Berkshire, UK
with a tabby cat called Emma, 600+ CDs, innummerable books and an
eclectic selection of musical instruments.
Elaine.
Elaine Charlson - Sun IR/ENS EDS
>
> In article <owxvhog...@xxUK.Sun.COM>,
> Elaine Charlson - Sun IR/ENS EDS <Elaine....@xxUK.Sun.COM> wrote:
> > maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) writes:
> >
> > > Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies, say
> it
> > > LOUD & say it PROUD!
> >
> > Oh dear, I'm a shy Brit and don't think that I could quite shout it like that
> > <blush>
> >
> > LN.
> >
> That's alright. As a somewhat lapsed Baptist, I don't think I could shout it
> either. Why don't you and I stand in the background and mumble it, trying to
> look innocent.
>
> Maria
Sounds like a deal to me!
Oh, and in answer to Max, I was in NY for a friend's wedding back in 1996 and it
didn't teach me how to shout then - do you think my upcoming trip to Cary, NC
will help any? ...and I don't have a loved one since he dumped me on 26th August,
1993. What, remember it? me??
LN.
cyn...@my-dejanews.com
maxs...@aol.com (Max Shreck) wrote:
>
> and> >2) does not limp. He actually motors about well for a tall man with boat
> >feet. Don't believe me? Ask Cy, she actually saw him
YES!!! he doesn't limp....um, atleast not in public, but what they do when
alone.... (shrug)
the James Arness thing, what with him being your first
> big crush, and his limp & all --
> BTW, never seen "Gunsmoke" -- now you've got me all hot to get a copy! :-)
>
HEY, My first crush was Christopher Lee..I know! I'm odd, always HAVE been!
LO L Oh wait, also had a first crush period on David McCallum of Man From
U.N.C.L.E. fame. used to love that show when I was a kid, along with THe
Avengers, of COURSE! :>) But know what? Arness is a HUNK!! At least, in his
youth, in fact seemed to have made his hunkdom go a looooong way. Aged well,
like some other lovely lookiung gents. :>) CY
Max Shreck
>now I work for the Retirement Dept.
Is there really a Retirement Dept.? Or are you trying to say you're retired? Is
it one of those euphemisms, like "circular file"?
>Married, one husband (also with an interesting gait)
Y'see, folks? What'd I tell you about Morse fans and their peculiar tastes in
men's gaits? ;^)
>I continue to enjoy lurking, though I've crawled out of the bushes more
lately.
Yay! Get off your knees & brush off those leaves and brambles! I can post the
UV-protective lurker sunglasses again if you need them...
>At the risk of getting flamed, how does one find the FAQ's for this ng?
>I've LOL reading "The Limp" in it's condensed forms, but would love to
>find the whole thing Max wrote up and I forgot to save anywhere. Till
>later...
No flames for you, young lady! The only places to find the FAQ at this moment
are on my hard drive and on the hard drive of my collaborator, who is writing
the appendix referring readers to various websites. My end of the FAQ is done,
and whenever the other part's done I'll post the whole megillah. Shouldn't be
too long.
-- Max
HelenS24
>Incidentally, to my recollection it was... Judy's
> hubby? who limped.
Oh. Maybe that's the one. Sorry Maria (and Tim).
>(wondering if there'll be a rush to hire Tonya
> Harding's tire-iron-wielding henchmen for
> leg-damaging purposes once the news gets out
> about limps...)
LOL!!!!
Helen S.
Max Shreck
Elaine wrote:
>Oh, and in answer to Max, I was in NY for a friend's wedding back in 1996 and
it
>didn't teach me how to shout then - do you think my upcoming trip to Cary, NC
>will help any?
What? You're going to Cary? Not THE Cary, North Carolina?! Why, that's the
WORLD'S CAPITOL OF YELLING! THE SHOUTIN'-EST TOWN THERE IS!!!!!!
Heh. Just kidding. Never hoid of the place.
But I've been to NC (the coast) a couple times and always had fun. Hope you
will too.
>...and I don't have a loved one since he dumped me on 26th August,
>1993. What, remember it? me??
>Apart from that, I'm a divorced English pagan living in Berkshire, UK
>with a tabby cat called Emma, 600+ CDs, innummerable books and an
>eclectic selection of musical instruments.
Very sorry to hear you don't have a loved one, but at least you have a lively
intellectual life, eh? And you have Morse (and this wonderful <heavy irony>
newsgroup) to keep you warm...
>>> Cy, Maria, Helen, Alison, Judith, Elaine, et al -- if you like willies,
>>> say it LOUD & say it PROUD!
> Oh dear, I'm a shy Brit and don't think that I could quite shout it like
> that <blush>
I replied to this before, but that was before I knew you were a pagan! You, of
all people, should be comfortable with phallus worship, Maypoles, the whole
lot! Perhaps if you had been frequent and voluble in your affirmations of
willie-loving, that good-for-nothing man that left you would've been
straightened out! ...naaaaaah, I suppose it's never that simple -- but it
wouldn't have *hurt* matters any....
Well, how's this: since there's no man around, just cuddle that tabby close to
your pagan bosom, and whisper, "I like pussies."
-- Max
(somehow managing to create a critical mass of naughtiness all by herself!)
Max Shreck
Maria wrote:
>I dabble in forensics (identification of unidentified human
>remains and spent a couple of years slumming around the Smithsonian doing
>this - so all things dead and bizarre are of much interest).
"All Things Dead and Bizarre" -- wasn't that the spinoff of "All Creatures
Great and Small"?
You know, from the hymn?
"All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things dead and bizarre,
The Lord God made them all."
-- Max
tmc...@gateway.net
I have printed the above and am getting out the tape as I type. This baby's
going on the office door. That should go over really well with the department
chairman.
Maria
HelenS24
> Well, how's this: since there's no man around, just
> cuddle that tabby close to your pagan bosom, and
> whisper, "I like pussies."
Oh Max. Max, Max, Max. That's why your are: QUEEN OF THE HUSSIES. :-)
Helen S.
Diane & Buck Weber
>
> Diane wrote:
>
> >now I work for the Retirement Dept.
>
> Is there really a Retirement Dept.? Or are you trying to say you're retired? Is
> it one of those euphemisms, like "circular file"?
>
Would that it were; I counsel City employees on their best options
regarding their City pensions. Can I help it if they all persist in
having multiple marriages, children from all of the above and then some,
and then complain that they can't afford to retire? They hired their
lawyer, not I. As City jobs go, it's not a bad gig. I do miss
processing the new mysteries, though the old ginks who reserved books
(kept on the bottom shelf at the circulation desk) just to look down my
cleavage are not missed at all. None of THEM had an interesting gait,
tho' there was that one actor.....
Max Shreck
Helen wrote:
>Oh Max. Max, Max, Max. That's why your are: QUEEN OF THE HUSSIES. :-)
*Blush!* Oh, what a wonderful title to have bestowed on me!
BTW: My husband, reading the NG over my shoulder, saw this post and, with a big
smile, cried, "Oh, you ARE!!!"
-- Max
Max Shreck
HelenS24
>None of THEM had an interesting gait,
>tho' there was that one actor.....
Okay, I'll say it: Do tell!! Names Babe, we want names.
Helen S.
HelenS24
happened across Gunsmoke on one of the very small local channels in this area.
And sure enough, Matt Dillon had an odd gaite, rather like one leg being
shorter than the other. Not by much, but enough to notice if you look for it.
And the limping sheriff? He runs quite normally.
Helen S.
Max Shreck
>And the limping sheriff? He runs quite normally.
And so does the limping Chief Inspector, btw, for anatomical reasons that we
discussed earlier in this thread and will be further elucidated in the
FAQuestion.
-- HRH Max, hussy Queen!
tmc...@gateway.net
hele...@aol.com (HelenS24) wrote:
> I believe this is the thread that discussed the Gunsmoke gaite? Well, I
> happened across Gunsmoke on one of the very small local channels in this area.
> And sure enough, Matt Dillon had an odd gaite, rather like one leg being
> shorter than the other. Not by much, but enough to notice if you look for it.
>
>
>
>
Quick, panting post as Maria excavates herself from Anatomy syllabus lovingly
dumped on desk by boss and unscheduled meetings with 9 new advisees:
Because I am a complete Gunsmoke junkie (by the way one of the most
intelligent and adult pieces of television and radio ever done), I can tell
you that James Arness limped as a result of severe wounds and subsequent
infection to his leg suffered at the landing at Anzio in World War II. It
seems that at 6'7", he was ordered first out of the boat and onto the beach
to judge the depth of the water. His limp isn't terribly pronounced in the
earlier B&W episodes, but by the later 60s-70s color episodes it's quite
apparent.
Firsrt Dillion, then Morse. Maybe I have a subconscious lust for limping men.
Where did I put that tire iron.......
Maria, I love it when two of my favorite shows collide.
Max Shreck
wacky and failed to put her post in the proper thread -- wrote:
>His limp isn't terribly pronounced in the earlier B&W episodes, but by
>the later 60s-70s color episodes it's quite apparent.
Hmm... sounds familiar, no? Remind anyone of the way JT's limp waxes and wanes,
sometimes even within the same episode, and seems to have slowly become more
pronounced over the years?
Rheumatic disease? Other factors of aging? Slowly dawning realization that it
gets the gals?
Your professional opinion, Professor Cole?
--Max
HelenS24
>And the limping sheriff? He runs quite normally.
Max replied:
>And so does the limping Chief Inspector, btw, for
> anatomical reasons that we discussed earlier in this
> thread and will be further elucidated in the
>FAQuestion.
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. Sorry.
Helen S.
(Who's now looking where the heck she's put her brain. Or is it just the
memory that's going? Oh yes. It's on the limp. <hee, hee>)
Rich Kus
>In article <199808030219...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> hele...@aol.com (HelenS24) wrote:
>> I believe this is the thread that discussed the Gunsmoke gaite? Well, I
>> happened across Gunsmoke on one of the very small local channels in this area.
>> And sure enough, Matt Dillon had an odd gaite, rather like one leg being
>> shorter than the other. Not by much, but enough to notice if you look for it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Quick, panting post as Maria excavates herself from Anatomy syllabus lovingly
>dumped on desk by boss and unscheduled meetings with 9 new advisees:
>
>Because I am a complete Gunsmoke junkie (by the way one of the most
>intelligent and adult pieces of television and radio ever done), I can tell
>you that James Arness limped as a result of severe wounds and subsequent
>infection to his leg suffered at the landing at Anzio in World War II. It
>seems that at 6'7", he was ordered first out of the boat and onto the beach
>earlier B&W episodes, but by the later 60s-70s color episodes it's quite
>apparent.
>
>Where did I put that tire iron.......
>
>Maria, I love it when two of my favorite shows collide.
>
richk