Music in The Remorseful Day
m.gilbert3
Can anyone let me know what the music was that is played when Morse is at
home, has poured himself a drink and sits down and it almost looks as if
he's going to die there and then. He puts on the music, it plays for a while
and then he turns it off.
I wondered if Lewis listened to anymore Wagner after his start with
Parsifal!
Richard
>
> Can anyone let me know what the music was that is played when Morse is at
> home, has poured himself a drink and sits down and it almost looks as if
> he's going to die there and then.
>
I have seen the episode, but don't have it on tape. However ISTR they use
the Schubert String Quartet in a lot of the later Morse's.
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Richard
Richard
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> "m.gilbert3" wrote
> >
> > Can anyone let me know what the music was that is played when Morse is
at
>
> the Schubert String Quartet in a lot of the later Morse's.
>
D956)
Sorry :-(
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Richard
cynara
You've seen The Remorseful day? what did you think of it?
CY
>Richard
>
>
Richard
>
> You've seen The Remorseful day? what did you think of it?
>
> CY
Hello Cy,
Yes, that episode was shown on UK TV . . . err . . . last Xmas? I'm not a
great fan of the Morse TV series - at times they seem too much like an
advert for the Oxford tourist board. I do however love the novels,
especially the early ones (guess I first read Dexter in the late? mid? 70s).
Ironically quite a few scenes in Morse are filmed in Reading, where I live.
Whenever they show the Coroners' Court or the Crown Court they use the
building down the road from me - ISTR Oxford Crown Court is a 60's concrete
building :-(
Having said all that I enjoyed The Remorseful Day v. much - I thought the
scene where Lewis views Morse's body was well done (it could have been soppy
& mawkish).
Question for everyone here. What was the name of the episode that featured a
chap who was doing research on Badgers? I've only seen it once and it was
filmed in some woods a few miles from here. Anyone remember it?
Richard
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Richard
MzGwenny
Gwen
cynara
>
>"cynara" <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote
>>
>> You've seen The Remorseful day? what did you think of it?
>>
>> CY
>
>Hello Cy,
>
>Yes, that episode was shown on UK TV . . . err . . . last Xmas? I'm not a
>great fan of the Morse TV series - at times they seem too much like an
>advert for the Oxford tourist board. I do however love the novels,
>especially the early ones (guess I first read Dexter in the late? mid? 70s).
I LIKE you. :>)) I'm was a fan of the novels too. Especially the early ones.
The Way
Through The Woods is probably one of the latest ones I adore. One trip I went
to Wytham
Woods and saw several of the places that inspired him with that novel.
(learning about research)
But overall, it's the poetry and music I like best in it. The clever tale helps
too.
Nicholas Quinn is so well done, as is The Wench Is Dead. The brother concept in
Dead of JErciho
was a little confusing, but intriguing.
The first DEXTER book I read was The Jewel That Was Ours. I didn't like it.
Thought it read too much like
a film script only to find out that it was built on a film script idea. Watched
the film of LAst Seen Wearing,
turned it off after twenty minutes. Was bored. Gave Dexter another chance when
I picked up the novel, Last Seen Wearing.
I Liked it a lot. Liked being inside the head of Morse better too. Was able to
watch the telly program
again and enjoy it because I got to know the character through the novels. He
(Colin) thinks my intro to Morse
is amusing. :>) Of course, best thing about me and Morse was getting to know
Colin through the years.
What a lovely person.
Please do share any of your fave Morse novels, please? I think it's a good
topic.
CY (Another of our AFIM posters lives in Reading too. I've ridden the train
through there,
but haven't been to visit. Perhaps I'll pop in and see these things when I
return to Oxford next.)
Helen S.
> I have seen the episode, but don't have it
> on tape. However ISTR they use the
> Schubert String Quartet in a lot of the
> later Morse's.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is "ISTR"?
Helen S.
e-mail: IDNam...@yahoo.com
Richard James C. Butler
elph...@aol.commonospam (Helen S.) posted:
> Richard (of Reading not Ireland) posted:
That's damm right ! ;-)
>
> > I have seen the episode, but don't have it
> > on tape. However ISTR they use the
> > Schubert String Quartet in a lot of the
> > later Morse's.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is "ISTR"?
>
> Helen S.
> e-mail: IDNam...@yahoo.com
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"m.gilbert3" <m.gil...@ntlworld.com> posted:
I love to know, I haven't seen anything after 'The Wench is dead' !
But I think it'll be on RTE (Irish broadcaster) will show it this winter.
Hype, Hype, Hype !
Richard
> Richard (of Reading not Ireland) posted:
>
job I once had where my immediate boss was called Richard. As he is 5' 10"
and I am 6' 1" we got round this by calling him Little Dick, and I was
referred to as . . . .well you can figure it out.
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but what is "ISTR"?
>
Sorry, I'm always using these abbreviations. I SEEM TO RECALL.
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Richard
Richard
From: "cynara"
>
> I LIKE you. :>))
Well Cy, I like you too :-)
> I'm was a fan of the novels too. Especially the early ones.
> The Way
> Through The Woods is probably one of the latest ones I adore.
>
This is the one where Morse takes over a case, and letters appear in The
Times,
right? All very clever and arty. Someone else wrote and said this was the
Badger
episode, but no, I'm thinking of another one. It wasn't an original Dexter
but
one of the "made for TV" ones.
> Nicholas Quinn is so well done, as is The Wench Is Dead. The brother
concept
in
> Dead of JErciho
> was a little confusing, but intriguing.
Agreed.
>
> Please do share any of your fave Morse novels, please? I think it's a
good
> topic.
>
I re-read "Last bus to Woodstock", "The Third Mile", "Last seen wearing" and
"Service of all the dead" every couple of years. I must dig out "Jericho" -
haven't read that for years and years. I remember the shock of the
incestuous
relationship as being pretty strong. What did come over well in these early
filmed episodes was that Morse is a fairly seedy character - a lonely
embittered
beer swilling porn fan. This was "cleaned up" in my opinion in the later TV
films. I think the rot really set in with the "made for TV" Morse's where he
becomes more like a failed Don cruising around the glorious countryside
finding
bodies galore. And why did they change his car from a Lancia to a Jaguar?
:-)
I've just gone and found my (well thumbed) copy of The Third Mile and note
that
it is a first edition first impression. Wonder if that makes it a
collectors'
item?
--
Richard
Richard James C. Butler
"Richard" <ric...@REMOVEmekka.freeserve.co.uk> posted:
> "Helen S." wrote
> > Richard (of Reading not Ireland) posted:
> >
> Ahh, how confusing - we have two Richards in here. Thus happened to me in a
> job I once had where my immediate boss was called Richard. As he is 5' 10"
> and I am 6' 1" we got round this by calling him Little Dick, and I was
> referred to as . . . .well you can figure it out.
ROFLASC ! (Rolling on the floor and scaring the cat)
Some people called me Dick, they became part of the the floor almost instantly :-)
I don't like that name.....
>
> >
> > Pardon my ignorance, but what is "ISTR"?
> >
>
> Sorry, I'm always using these abbreviations. I SEEM TO RECALL.
> --
> Richard
>
>
Everybody calls me 'Rich', so how about 'Rich' and 'Richard', solved ?
cynara
>
>
>From: "cynara"
>>
>> I LIKE you. :>))
>
>Well Cy, I like you too :-)
aw, shucks--thanks. (blush! blush!)
>> I'm a fan of the novels too. Especially the early ones. The Way Through The Woods is probably
one of the latest ones I adore.
>
>This is the one where Morse takes over a case, and letters appear in The Times,right?
correct.
All very clever and arty. Someone else wrote and said this was the Badger
episode, but no, I'm thinking of another one. It wasn't an original Dexter but
one of the "made for TV" ones.
I think it was called TheSecret Of Bay 5 (?), sort of an offshoot from The
Secret Of Annex 3.
Screenplay was by Alma Cullen based on an idea by Dexter. Think the husband
was an alcoholic woodsman (forrester) who worked in Wytham woods?
>> Please do share any of your fave Morse novels, please? I think it's a good topic.
>I re-read "Last bus to Woodstock",
I only read this one long after I had read the others. It wasn't reissued until
then. I can see it's
the first though. I think he did much better with Jericho and Quinn. I felt
that in Last Bus, Morse
was a bit of a lecher mixed with a bit of a teenager with a crush. Made him
vulnerable. Of course,
others might not agree. (More on vintage Dexter writings later)
What did come over well in these early filmed episodes was that Morse is a
fairly seedy character - a lonely
>embittered beer swilling porn fan.
If we're talking films, yes, Morse in Jericho (which was the first Morse filmed)
was a little different than the
Morse of The Remorseful Day. Remember Morse being busted by Lewis for breaking
into the victim's home? They
go to this decidedly non-plush pub who's only other customer is an obvious er,
lady of the night. BOTH men
give her more than a good look. In The Remorseful Day, you wouldn't find our
Morse in a pub that remotely
resembled that one! LOL. Of course, to be fair, people do change over time,
though I feel the Morse
of the novels changed in a slower manner that was more natural.
And why did they change his car from a Lancia to a Jaguar? :-)
Um, according to Colin, when they filmed the first Morse, Dead Of Jericho.
They couldn't find
a Lancia, but someone had found this maroon Jag for, I think it was three
hundred pounds. It didn't run well,
if at all. Heard that when it moved in Jericho, it was because just behind
where the camera was filming ran
a couple of men pushing that baby. Eventually they got it running. But then
the Jag became so connected
with Morse that Colin (Dexter) felt he needed to change that in the later
novels. Later on, when they reprinted
the earlier novels, the Lancia was changed to a Jag.
>
>I've just gone and found my (well thumbed) copy of The Third Mile and note that it is a first edition first impression. Wonder if that makes it a collectors' item?
If it's a hardback, yes. I think there's even a market for paperbacks. But the
hardbacks of the early ones
are jewels. Try to catch Colin at a signing or something and ask him to sign
it. He's very kind about
those kinds of things. Then your market value will shoot up. I think first
print, first copies of
the early Morse books like Last Bus, Last Seen Wearing etc., are worth a pretty
pence! Andof course,
The Jag is still a Lancia!
Did you know I have a copy of the first writing Colin had published? It's a
copy of the textbook he co-wrote
with E.G. Rayner, published by Pergamon Press, Oxford. He's listed as N.C.
Dexter. It's called Liberal Studies,
an outline course Vol 1. The fascinating thing is that one can tell the
sections that Dexter has written with no problem. Even then
his distinct style of writing came through as well as a bit of his unique humor.
It's interesting reading for that alone.
CY (Who enjoys good book chats.)
@van-der-woude-00.myweb.nl H. van der Woude
Years ago I bought (in Great Brtain) a video of Puccini's Turandot, recorded in the Verona Arena (Italy - the recrding dates back to 1983).
Tonight I rewatched Morse's 'The Death Of The Self', one of the episodes not taking place in Oxford, not even in Britain, but (of all places) in Vicenza, Italy, and partly in Verona. (The ones among us who watched this episode will smile on the way Super-Intendent Strange pronounces this Italian name and how Morse is correcting him!)
One of the characters is a female opera singer, making a new start (after some depression) in Verona as Liù in Puccinini's Turandot (BTW, Liù has got one of Puccini's most beautiful arias and Puccini knew how to write for the female voice!).
What struck me is, knowing Turandot, knowing this particular video I have of Turandot in Verona an having rewatched 'The Death Of The Self', was realizing that the moviemakers gratefully made use of this 1983 recording.
Now, what I want to say is the following.
Of course I prefer the so called 'Oxford stories' of Morse, but I can recommend 'The Death Of The Self', not only because it has a delightful complicated plot, but also of the setting of this story of Morse in Vicenza, competing with Italian police, who don't believe in his methods, to say the least.
And there is this Puccini music, of course...
Herman van der Woude
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cynara
>
>It's not a novel I would like to write about, but one of the Morse =
>Movies, actually.
>
>Years ago I bought (in Great Brtain) a video of Puccini's Turandot, =
>recorded in the Verona Arena (Italy - the recrding dates back to 1983).
>
>have of Turandot in Verona an having rewatched 'The Death Of The Self', =
>was realizing that the moviemakers gratefully made use of this 1983 =
>recording.
>
Are you CERTAIN it's the same recording? I thought Janis Kelly (?) sang the
arias. I don't have
the video, so I can't check the credits. I'm curious...
Okay. I checked it out. Went to the Sub-Orbital website. Bart Hemstras
ultimate Morse site.
The answer is there....I think?!
Glad to see you posting again, Herman!
CHEERS!
CYN
Richard
>
> Some people called me Dick, they became part of the the floor almost
instantly :-)
>
> I don't like that name.....
>
"Rick"
>
> Everybody calls me 'Rich', so how about 'Rich' and 'Richard', solved ?
>
>
Sorted, as they say. I'm still looking for my ancient copy of "Jericho" -
have come to the conclusion it may have been lost for all time :-(
--
Richard
@van-der-woude-00.myweb.nl H. van der Woude
Due to a little too much malt whisky yesterday night I did not make totally clear what I meant to write. Cy, I meant to write that they used the video recording for the images, not for the performing artists. The 'Morse-soprano' Nicole Burgess who 'sang' Liù was in the same setting as in the original video recording. It was the same staging, they used. As for the soundtrack I'm pretty sure it was a total different one and had nothing to do with this video registration I'm refering to. You can say they 'quoted' the video of 1983 in making this Morse episode (in 1992?). And they did well.
Though not an Oxford episode, it was Morse on his best again, not to mention poor old Lewis. I would like to go to Italy...
| Glad to see you posting again, Herman!
Yes, it's about time we live again in this cyber-pub. I already said I drank a litle too much (my tommy makes silly moves now, without me wanting it to do) and I'm not 'quite' clear in the head several hours later, but I say 'cheerio' to all of you around! Have one on me!
CHEERS!
Richard
>
> I think it was called TheSecret Of Bay 5 (?), sort of an offshoot from The
> Secret Of Annex 3.
> Screenplay was by Alma Cullen based on an idea by Dexter. Think the
husband
> was an alcoholic woodsman (forrester) who worked in Wytham woods?
>
Hi Cy and all,
Sorry for delay in replying. All this blasted Porn Spam in here did strange
things to my Internet set up, and I "lost" some messages for 24 hours. PC is
quite well now :-)
The Secret of Bay 5 was it? I only saw it once, but the bit about the
alcoholic rings true. I actually watched them filming part of that episode
in some woods near here. They (the woods) are in what used to be the
Baskerville family estate (as in Hound of the Baskervilles) but that's
another story. Many thanks for the info.
Richard
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Richard
Helen S.
> Ahh, how confusing - we have two
> Richards in here. Thus happened to me
> in a job I once had where my immediate
> boss was called Richard. As he is 5' 10"
> and I am 6' 1" we got round this by
> calling him Little Dick, and I was
> referred to as . . . .well you can figure it
> out.
I now speak to myself:
Don't say it Helen. Don't say it.
Helen S.
e-mail: IDNam...@yahoo.com
@van-der-woude-00.myweb.nl H. van der Woude
I think we ALL got the message!
Herman van der Woude
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