FYI:(LF)- JENNA JAMESON/Stern Show stuff
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Jenna Jameson --- "Howard has definitely calmed down.
He is really tired. Probably because he has a new girlfriend."
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SOURCE: Luke Ford - Tuesday, June 26th, 2001
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Randy West Replies To Jenna Jameson
Jenna Jameson in an interview with Howard Stern on Friday said
West paid her $10,000 to do her first scene. West tells
GeneRossExtreme.com that he paid Jameson. $1,000.
West is particularly miffed about Jameson's "gross" comments in
describing the experience she had with West.
West tells Gene Ross: "Jenna wrote to me at the time saying she
was a fan and wanted to get in the business. If I was that gross, I
don't think she would have done that. She didn't fake anything. She
told Stern she was faking it. She's not that good of an actress to
fake it that well.
"I did the first scene with her and Kylie [Ireland]. It couldn't have
been that bad because Jenna came back and said she wanted to
do the second scene with just me and here. So I don't know where
she's coming from to tell you the truth. Actually I was working with
Kylie in one of her first scenes and Jenna happened to show. Jenna
had done one other scene before I shot her- a threeway with Jonathon
Morgan and some other girl. She was telling me she didn't like it and
Jonathon had problems and he was sweating all over and she didn't
like the other girl."
Jenna Jameson writes Luke: Randy paid me 2000 dollars for the first
scene with Kylie and him. He cornered me at that shoot and asked
me to do a scene with him. I said i would only do that for big money.
He said no problem. He paid me 6000 dollars for that scene. So, I
made those two days I made 8000 dollars. Second, he contacted
me, through Julia Parton and asked me to be in his series... Trust
me, it wasn't because I was a fan. I didn't know enough about the
business to be a fan. Randy is a really nice guy... he is just much
older than me, and that freaked me out. Shit, I was 19! It worked
out well in the end though, it was his biggest selling tape. Or so he
told me. My apologies to randy, I didn't mean to make him mad.
Things can get out of control when you are on Howard, and I hope he
doesn't take them personally.
Howard has definitely calmed down. He is really tired. Probably
because he has a new girlfriend.
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SOURCE: Luke Ford - Tuesday, June 26th, 2001
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Debating ClubJenna.com On Netpond
Brad Shaw writes on Netpond: Jenna a millionaire? Questionable. Her fame is
fading quick, she better hurry and get Jenna Cash off the ground;-) Her web
strategy is terrible. I know, we were in negotiations with her for some time.
Anyone recall the first version of clubjenna.com? Best move she made was hiring
MikeW to do the redesing. Maybe would help if she hired people with a clue.
Reminds me of sex.com , missed opportunity.
Kevin Blatt writes on Netpond: Now now boys let's play nice..... Jenna IS the
highest paid performer. PERIOD. In all of adult. Call Fishbein and ask him
Brad. Brad I know you wouldn't be all sour grapes just cause Jay passed on your
deal....right?
MikeAI writes on Netpond: Meni, no disrespect to Jenna, I am a big fan of her
work. But she is overexposed, getting older, competing in a industry that
thrives on the next new hot YOUNG girl. No disrespect just reality. She should
have had a site rolling 3 years ago...
Meni, as a key advisor to Jenna, you should get your investment to stop smoking
cigerettes. They surely won't help her shelf life on this planet, and they will
not make her look any younger either...
Jenna Jameson's boyfriend Justin Sterling addresses Brad Shaw on Netpond: Hey
Fat Ass, You wanna talk your shit about myself, Jenna,and my company...whew...
I hope you can back up your talk...Because you just unleashed the heat. If you
think for a minute I'm am going to listen to you blow shit out of that Hole you
call a mouth and laugh, you have another thing coming. You think you were in
negotiations..you are a joke- I still have your joke of a proposal! The reason
we did nothing with you was a direct result of it...You have no business
skills. Do you even know what a proposal is? My point exactly. You should spend
a little more time in school learning and less time posting on the board and
maybe you would have 1/10 the business acumen that myself,my brother, and or
Jenna have. I look at my PNL over the past decade and smile. My brother retired
at 36, never needing to work again. I sold my last company and have no need to
work either. Jenna has more money in cars than you are worth. We started
Clubjenna as something fun to do, and something for her fans. Not a company to
rip off its customers. Brad you are a bad businessman, and I use that term
loosely. I will finish this conversation when I meet you if you are even man
enough to stand in front of me.
Brad Shaw makes fun of (Jenna Jameson's boyfriend) Justin Sterling's business
skills: Jay, here is some math. Nice and simple for you. You are so rich that
leaving this $ on the table is no big deal though, right. 1000 sign-ups a day,
pay $30 a sign-up Each sign-up in the long term worth $42 after CB's, credits,
expenes, etc You are leaving over $4millon on the table easy. I know you may
not understand this, but try.
Jay, you make me laugh. Your internet operations make me laugh. It took me
about 30 seconds of speaking with you on the phone to realize you know nothing
about the adult internet business.
Sure you know video, but this is not video. The real money to be made is here,
but you lose, you are missing the boat.
You are very defensive about my comment about Jenna's wealth. Why care what I
think. Who the hell am I? Why be so defensive? I have done million $ deals with
a contract I have written up in 5 mins. Why would I waste my time on a drawn
out proposal when it was obvious you were not willing to put up capital to
start a webmaster program that could compete in the market.
You think you know it all, sure $30 a sign-up with no trial is going to attract
traffic, sure! And as for Club Jenna and your internet operations, you are
CLUELESS. You have Jenna and you are not raking in millions a month off that
site, something is wrong with your operation.
Kevin Blatt writes on Netpond: Brad: My body guards number is 1-800-Bad-Dude. I
don't think even he would touch this one though..... After all, Jay [Justin
Sterling] is from Cleveland. That means in translation " apologize and kiss ass
now before your face is reconfigured".
Hooper writes: Lets stop this stupid Jenna debate... it's clear that she's not
making as much of her name as she could. Fuck... like somebody said... lost
opportunities. Nothing personal to anybody involved but why sell your pink
pussy for 34.95 (or whatever) a month to 1000 people when you could be selling
it for 39.95 to 1,000,000 people?
Jay [Justin Sterling].. Do us all a favor and just stop. Stop typing. Stop
thinking. Stop breathing. We'll all be happier, healthier and wiser because of
it... You can fuck Jenna all you want... but the greatest and wisest phrase of
all time is always going to stand true... "No matter how hot she is... no
matter how often she sucks dick.... somebody.. somewhere.. is SICK OF HER
SHIT!"
Jenna Jameson writes on Netpond: Wow, how harsh are some of you guys... I'm not
even involved, and some of you feel the need to bash me. Nothing even came out
of my mouth, so how can you be sick of my shit? (Hooper) I bet you will be so
sticky sweet to my face, when I meet you in Vegas. I probably won't even know
who you are, and will be my same sweet self. I will do my best to find out who
all of you nasty people are just so I can talk with you about your views on me
and my "worth". I would enjoy it if I could get a little respect here. I think
of all the people in this industry, I deserve it.
Brad Shaw replies: Jenna, I think your real problem should be with the anon
attacks. Not everyone is going to like you, life goes on, I am sure you know
this by now.
Not too many millionaire retired dancers or porn stars sitting on a beach
somewhere. In fact, I can not think of any, unless they made their fortunes on
the net. And some other free advice Jenna. If you want to make big $ on the
net, surround yourself with people who understand this business. Not the best
talkers, the best partiers, but the best business people.
Jenna Jameson responds: Brad, trust me... If I was bothered by what you had to
say, I would have responded last night. Although, I don't really understand why
you wanted to business with me so bad if "my star is fading". With concern to
your advise on who I should surround myself with, I surround myself with people
I trust. I think that is the most important thing when you are the talent in
this industry. I have been ripped off way too many times. I have just begun to
learn everything there is in the internet industry, how long have you been in
business? Also, I WILL NEVER concern myself with anons. It pisses me off more
when people I know, that claim to be good people take it apon themselves to
judge me, call me names, and speak about me "sucking dick" ,, that piss me off.
Because I know they will be my best friend when I see them in Vegas.
Mike, I am definately not angry about people saying I suck dick... I am proud
of my skills :) But I am also a business woman, and would like to be treated as
such. I also love to hear everyones opinion, as long as it's not rude comments
that do absolutely nothing but take jabs at my character. I agree I should have
done this three years ago, but I was busy building the "franchise" everyone
knows as Jenna Jameson. It took a lot to get to where I am. I am only one
person. And, it is never too late. I know this, because I am still #1.
I may be old (27) But I'm still having my door knocked on by everyone of these
#1 companies. Why? Because they need this old lady to bring them traffic.
Blahhh Blahhh writes: Hi Luke, Trust me I don't want to get involved in the
Jenna bashing, I'm a huge fan of hers. I've got nothing but love for you Jenna.
But I truly don't understand how Jenna could be a millionaire. I have very
limited understanding of the porn biz but from what I've seen and heard the
girls really don't make that much and get burned out pretty quickly. I've heard
there are no royalties based upon sales, or airplay on TEN or the Playboy
channel, like in mainstream. Is this different for contract girls? I thought
contract girls got a fixed amount for a finite number of movies. For Jenna I
could see that being $250k/year. Dancing as a feature I'm sure can gross a lot
of cash with appearance fee's, selling pictures etc. but I'd be surprised if
that could gross more than $3-400k for even the biggest star working 35-40
weeks per year.
And her clubjenna.com site just got started so I'm sure there is a long way to
go there. I joined for a month when it first came out. Lots of pics, but hardly
any vid's and that's what I wanted to see so I cancelled. I've heard that most
memberships to porn sites only last 2-3 months. So I don't see that as a very
reliable source of income unless you constantly upgrade content. Which of
course means Jenna has to stay in front of the camera for a couple of years.
Which I thought she didn't want to do anymore. So basically it boils down to
one question. How could this sort of wealth been accumulated? cuz I don't get
it. All of the above at best add's up to $750-850k per year before taxes. And I
think I'm being very liberal in my estimates. Certainly that is a very
respectable income, and more than I make but it doesn't make you a millionaire.
Not even close when you consider Jenna is going to have some heavy expenses.
Help me understand. Oh and Jenna, pretty please with sugar on top, do a
threeway with Bunny Luv and Miko Lee.
AnalCynic writes: If Jenna is so rich, then why is she hocking that car on
Ebay? My first thought was, to raise capital.
Let's face it, Jenna's success is based upon her looks, not her personality,
acting talent or innate charisma. When her looks go, she won't have a career,
period.
We have no way to tell what she is actually earning off Club Jenna so it all
might be a bunch of talk in an attempt to hype a product in a sea of like
products. Those who are making a million, usually lurk quietly. They don't
scream "Hello. IRS, I'm making 1.5 million a year." Give me a break.
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SOURCE: Luke Ford - Tuesday, June 26th, 2001
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