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Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme
By Jack Kelly

A new book by Michael Isikoff, an investigative reporter for Newsweek, and
David Corn, who writes for the far left wing magazine The Nation, casts many
powerful people in Washington in an unflattering light -- but not the people
who Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn wish to besmirch.

A brief review for those of you who have lives, and who consequently haven't
been following closely the details of the Plame Name Game: In his 2003 State
of the Union address, President Bush said: "The British government has
learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of
uranium from Africa."

First in leaks to reporters, and then in his own op-ed in the New York
Times, a retired diplomat, Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, said the
president was lying. His claim to speak with authority was that in the
spring of 2002, the CIA had sent him to Niger to see if Saddam had tried to
buy uranium there.

Mr. Wilson's charge was important because it marked the beginning of the
"Bush lied" meme about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But
investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee; the Robb-Silberman
Commission on prewar intelligence, and the British Butler Commission all
concluded it was Mr. Wilson who was not telling the truth. Saddam had indeed
tried to buy uranium in Africa, as even Mr. Wilson himself had acknowledged
to the CIA officers who debriefed him after his Niger trip.

One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to Niger
at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney. In his July 14, 2003 column,
Robert Novak disclosed that he had been sent instead at the insistence of
his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.

Ms. Plame had once been an undercover operative. Concern was expressed that
the leaker had violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Mr. Wilson blamed the leak on White House political guru Karl Rove, claiming
it was payback for his "whistle-blowing." A special prosecutor, Patrick
Fitzgerald, was appointed to investigate the charge. Mr. Fitzgerald
eventually indicted I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, then the chief of staff to the
vice president, on a charge of having lied to a grand jury about from whom
he had learned of Ms. Plame's occupation. He is awaiting trial.

No indictments have been brought on the charge Mr. Fitzgerald was appointed
to investigate, because it is clear there was no violation of the
Intelligence Identities Protection Act. The act applies only to those who
are operating under cover overseas, or who have done so within five years of
the disclosure of their identities. Ms. Plame had been manning a desk at CIA
headquarters in Langley, Va. for longer than that.

Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn disclose that it was then Deputy Secretary of State
Richard Armitage who disclosed Ms. Plame's identity to Bob Novak, which is
not exactly news to those who have been following the case. But Mr. Isikoff
and Mr. Corn provide details which reflect poorly on Mr. Armitage, Mr.
Fitzgerald, and the journalists who knew the truth at the time.

Mr. Armitage disclosed to his boss, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and to
Justice Department officials his role in the case in October, 2003, after a
second Novak column, Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn say.

For more than three years, Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby have been accused,
falsely, of being the source of the leak. Mr. Armitage, Mr. Powell, and
Justice department officials knew the truth, but said nothing. Clarice
Feldman, a Washington, D.C. lawyer, described Mr. Armitage's silence as
"inexplicable and perfidious."

"Had he spoken out publicly immediately, could there have been a reason for
the press to have demanded the appointment of the feckless special
prosecutor?" she asked.

Mr. Fitzgerald knew in his first few days on the job that Mr. Armitage was
the leaker; that the leak was inadvertent, and that the Intelligence
Identities Act hadn't been violated. Yet he has persisted in a sham
prosecution.

Mr. Isikoff and Mr. Corn write that: "the Plame leak in Novak's column has
long been cited by Bush administration critics as a deliberate act of
payback, orchestrated to punish and/or discredit Joe Wilson after he charged
that the Bush administration had misled the American public about prewar
intelligence."

They add, lamely, that: "The Armitage news does not fit neatly into that
framework."

They don't mention that Mr. Isikoff and (especially) Mr. Corn have been
among the journalists flogging this meme, and the time that it takes to
research and write a book indicates they've known for quite some time that
it isn't true. They're only willing to tell the truth, now, for money.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/08/plame_and_the_bush_lied_meme.html


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In article <Q6YIg.196$3b6...@newsfe10.lga>, pooki...@optonline.net says...

> August 29, 2006
> Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme
> By Jack Kelly
>
> A new book by Michael Isikoff, an investigative reporter for Newsweek, and
.
.

.
> One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to Niger
> at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney.

Whoaa, that's a lie right there, sir. Can you prove it?

Baldin...@msn.com

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Pookie wrote:
> August 29, 2006
> Plame and the 'Bush Lied'

One day he claims they need a court order to tap domestic calls, later
he says they have been doing it all along without a court order. One is
a lie, and we know which one. Of course Bush lies. He lies almost every
time he speaks in public.

Baldin Pramer

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http://discerningtexan.blogspot.com/2006/08/treachery-why-did-armitage-powell-and.html


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Pookie wrote:
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> One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to Niger
> at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney. In his July 14, 2003 column,
> Robert Novak disclosed that he had been sent instead at the insistence of
> his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.

This is pure bullshit. Jack Kelly goes on to lie some more
and I stop reading.

Right-wing journalist = professional liar

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http://discerningtexan.blogspot.com/2006/08/treachery-why-did-armitage-powell-and.html


August 29, 2006 8:24 AM

Rove and Libby: Hubris Authors Never Contacted Us
The CIA-leak investigation book - without two key figures

By Byron York

Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq
War, the new book by the Nation's David Corn and Newsweek's Michael Isikoff,
is the most in-depth single account yet of the CIA-leak investigation. But
representatives of two central figures in the case, former Cheney chief of
staff Lewis Libby and top White House aide Karl Rove, say the authors never
got in touch with them, much less interviewed them, for the book.

"Neither Isikoff nor Corn ever contacted us to discuss anything about
the book," says Barbara Comstock, a spokeswoman for the Libby defense team.

"We were never contacted," says Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Rove.

Hubris was rushed into release before its scheduled October
publication date, and copies of the book are not yet available publicly. But
throughout the CIA-leak affair, Corn's reporting has relied heavily on
former ambassador Joseph Wilson, the husband of CIA employee Valerie Plame
Wilson. Corn was, in fact, the first person to publish a story explicitly
raising the possibility that Mrs. Wilson was a "deep-cover" CIA officer.
Based on an interview with Wilson (who Corn said did not talk about his wife's
status), Corn wrote on July 16, 2003 - just two days after the original
Robert Novak column that started the CIA leak controversy - that "a pair of
top Bush officials told a reporter the name of a CIA operative who
apparently has worked under what's known as 'nonofficial cover' and who has
had the dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or
sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material."

"The Wilson smear was a thuggish act," Corn, who is also the author of
The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception, concluded.
Today, Corn is posting updates about Hubris at his website, bushlies.com.


In response to an e-mail asking whether he and Isikoff had contacted
Rove and Libby, Corn responded:

Your impression is wrong - as you will see when you read the book
and the source note. Mike - who also got your note - will reply to you with
some more details about his dealings with the Rove and Libby camps. At one
of the Libby hearings, as Wells was walking into the courtroom, I asked if
he was talking to reporters, he said no. Mike, I believe, also tried to
reach him and/or Jeffress and got nothing. Ask him about that. And we did
put a request into the White House that covered a host of matters and got
nothing from it. So it's simply not true we did not talk to - or try to talk
to - the Rove and Libby sides. You might want to wonder about whoever told
you that.

In an excerpt of Hubris published in Newsweek, Isikoff writes that
Novak "caused a huge stir when he revealed that Valerie Plame, wife of
Iraq-war critic Joseph Wilson, was a CIA officer." But when it was
originally published, Novak's column caused virtually no stir at all - until
Corn published an article claiming that Mrs. Wilson worked under
"nonofficial cover" for the CIA. And even then, there wasn't much notice
until New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer picked up on Corn's article
and demanded an investigation. Those demands, combined with a leaked letter
to the Justice Department from then-CIA Director George Tenet calling for an
investigation, eventually created the political pressure that caused the
Justice Department to begin a formal probe, which continues today under
special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDcyMDRjOGRkNTk5M2ZiYThhZjIyZjQ4ZDM5MGMwYzE=


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"Pookie" <pooki...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> August 29, 2006
> Plame and the 'Bush Lied' Meme
> By Jack Kelly

Bushco lied when they said Iraq was involved in 9/11.

Bushco lied when they said Iraq had WMD.

Bushco lied when they said Iraq's oil money would pay for
reconstruction.

Bushco lied when they said the US would be greeted as liberators in
Iraq.

Bushco lied when they said the Taliban was gone.

Bushco lied when they said the insurgents were in their last throes.

Bushco lied when they said the aluminum tubes were for uranium
refinement.

Bushco lied when they said the economy is doing great.

Bushco lied when they said tax cuts for the rich would create millions
of jobs.

Bushco lied when they said their Medicare bill would only cost $400
billion.

Need more evidence?

Fucken Bush apologists are such idiots.


Slo

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Bush lied when he told Tim Russert that all of his military
records had been released. He lied when he said that all
wire taps are done through a court with warrants.

Captain Compassion

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So Armitage outed Plame? Go get'em Fitz.


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"Slo" <Slos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I just posted the short list. There are many more out there. Here's a
few more, but by no means constitute a complete list. Add your favorite
Bush lies if you wish.

Bushco lied when he said he didn't know Harken was in trouble when he
dumped his stock.

Bushco lied when they said Clinton staffers trashed White House offices.

Bushco lied when they said Iraq had mobile bio weapons labs.

Bushco lied when they said Iraq was six months away from developing a
nuclear weapon.

Bushco lied when they said the inheritance tax was taking away family
farms.

Bushco lied when he said he first met Ken Lay in 1994.

Bushco lied when they said no more than 2,000 acres will be DISTURBED by
their ANWR drilling plan.

Bushco lied when they said divorce was down and weddings are up.

Bushco lied when they said most small business owners pay the highest
tax rate.

Bushco lied when they said the nation's top economist predicted the
economy would grow 3.3% in 2003 if his tax cut plan was enacted.

Bushco lied when they said 45% of all dividend income goes to those
earning less than $50K.

Bushco lied when they said 75% of all dividend income goes to those
earning less than $100K.

Bushco lied when they said the tax cut plan would cut taxes for everyone
that pays income tax.

Bushco lied when they said anyone who was involved in outing Plame would
be fired.

Bushco lied when he said by 2042, the entire social security system
would be exhausted and bankrupt.


Igor

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Still hiding behind pathetic news articles? Osama is that you?

Joe S.

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Bushitter lied when he said "You're doing a heckuva a job, Brownie."

Bushitter lied when he said "New Orleans has dodged a bullet."

Bushitter lies every time his lips move.

Pookie

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I'd tell you, but I can't because you want to wait until it's Merry
Fitzmas...


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===============
Democrat Senators already admitted it.

The Intel Committee chair concluded:

"I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador Wilson were
not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."

John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) [Vice Chairman]

Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Carl Levin (D-MI)

Ron Wyden (D-OR)

Evan Bayh (D-IN)

Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD)

Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ)

Friday, July 15, 2005 10:55 a.m. EDT

Sen. Intel Chair: Joe Wilson a Fraud

Thanks to the media's obsession with the Karl Rove pseudo-scandal, former
Iraq ambassador Joseph Wilson is once again the toast of Washington, D.C. -
appearing on dozens of TV and radio programs, airing his demand that
President Bush "honor his word" to fire Rove.

It's almost as if last year's Senate Intelligence Committee investigation
into Wilson's allegations never happened.

In fact, after probing Wilson's story, Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat
Roberts publicly ripped the so-called "whistleblower" as a possible hoaxer
and a fraud.

In a July 9, 2004 press release that's still available on Roberts' official
web site, the Kansas Republican said:

"The former Ambassador, either by design or through ignorance, gave the
American people and, for that matter, the world a version of events that was
inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and misleading . . .

"Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President
had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that
he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. As
discussed in the Niger section of the [Committee's] report, not only did he
NOT 'debunk' the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even
more reason to believe that it may be true."

Sen. Roberts continued:

"When asked how [Wilson] 'knew' that the Intelligence Community had rejected
the possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book, he
told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved 'a little literary
flair.'"

The Intel Committee chair concluded:

"I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador Wilson were
not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."


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fighting words
Plame Out
The ridiculous end to the scandal that distracted Washington.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Tuesday, Aug. 29, 2006, at 1:02 PM ET

I had a feeling that I might slightly regret the title ("Case Closed") of my
July 25 column on the Niger uranium story. I have now presented thousands of
words of evidence and argument to the effect that, yes, the Saddam Hussein
regime did send an important Iraqi nuclear diplomat to Niger in early 1999.
And I have not so far received any rebuttal from any source on this crucial
point of contention. But there was always another layer to the Joseph Wilson
fantasy. Easy enough as it was to prove that he had completely missed the
West African evidence that was staring him in the face, there remained the
charge that his nonreport on a real threat had led to a government-sponsored
vendetta against him and his wife, Valerie Plame.

In his July 12 column in the Washington Post, Robert Novak had already
partly exposed this paranoid myth by stating plainly that nobody had leaked
anything, or outed anyone, to him. On the contrary, it was he who approached
sources within the administration and the CIA and not the other way around.
But now we have the final word on who did disclose the name and occupation
of Valerie Plame, and it turns out to be someone whose opposition to the
Bush policy in Iraq has-like Robert Novak's-long been a byword in
Washington. It is particularly satisfying that this admission comes from two
of the journalists-Michael Isikoff and David Corn-who did the most to get
the story wrong in the first place and the most to keep it going long beyond
the span of its natural life.

As most of us have long suspected, the man who told Novak about Valerie
Plame was Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy at the State Department
and, with his boss, an assiduous underminer of the president's war policy.
(His and Powell's-and George Tenet's-fingerprints are all over Bob
Woodward's "insider" accounts of post-9/11 policy planning, which helps
clear up another nonmystery: Woodward's revelation several months ago that
he had known all along about the Wilson-Plame connection and considered it
to be no big deal.) The Isikoff-Corn book, which is amusingly titled Hubris,
solves this impossible problem of its authors' original "theory" by
restating it in a passive voice:

The disclosures about Armitage, gleaned from interviews with colleagues,
friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the
ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by
administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to
go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of
harming anyone.

In the stylistic world where disclosures are gleaned and ironies
underscored, the nullity of the prose obscures the fact that any irony here
is only at the authors' expense. It was Corn in particular who asserted-in a
July 16, 2003, blog post credited with starting the entire distraction-that:

The Wilson smear was a thuggish act. Bush and his crew abused and misused
intelligence to make their case for war. Now there is evidence Bushies used
classified information and put the nation's counter-proliferation efforts at
risk merely to settle a score. It is a sign that with this gang politics
trumps national security.

After you have noted that the Niger uranium connection was in fact based on
intelligence that has turned out to be sound, you may also note that this
heated moral tone ("thuggish," "gang") is now quite absent from the story.
It turns out that the person who put Valerie Plame's identity into
circulation was a staunch foe of regime change in Iraq. Oh, that's all
right, then. But you have to laugh at the way Corn now so neutrally
describes his own initial delusion as one that was "seized on by
administration critics."

What does emerge from Hubris is further confirmation of what we knew all
along: the extraordinary venom of the interdepartmental rivalry that has
characterized this administration. In particular, the bureaucracy at the
State Department and the CIA appear to have used the indiscretion of
Armitage to revenge themselves on the "neoconservatives" who had been
advocating the removal of Saddam Hussein. Armitage identified himself to
Colin Powell as Novak's source before the Fitzgerald inquiry had even been
set on foot. The whole thing could-and should-have ended right there. But
now read this and rub your eyes: William Howard Taft, the State Department's
lawyer who had been told about Armitage (and who had passed on the name to
the Justice Department)

also felt obligated to inform White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. But
Powell and his aides feared the White House would then leak that Armitage
had been Novak's source-possibly to embarrass State Department officials who
had been unenthusiastic about Bush's Iraq policy. So Taft told Gonzales the
bare minimum: that the State Department had passed some information about
the case to Justice. He didn't mention Armitage. Taft asked if Gonzales
wanted to know the details. The president's lawyer, playing the case by the
book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more.

"[P]laying the case by the book" is, to phrase it mildly, not the way in
which Isikoff and Corn customarily describe the conduct of the White House.
In this instance, however, the evidence allows them no other choice. But
there is more than one way in which a case can be played by the book. Under
the terms of the appalling and unconstitutional Intelligence Identities
Protection Act (see "A Nutty Little Law," my Slate column of July 26, 2005),
the CIA can, in theory, "refer" any mention of itself to the Justice
Department to see if the statute-denounced by The Nation and the New York
Times when it was passed-has been broken. The bar here is quite high.
Perhaps for that reason, Justice sat on the referral for two months after
Novak's original column. But then, rather late in the day, at the end of
September 2003, then-CIA Director George Tenet himself sent a letter
demanding to know whether the law had been broken.

The answer to that question, as Patrick Fitzgerald has since determined, is
"no." But there were plenty of senior people who had known that all along.
And can one imagine anybody with a stronger motive to change the subject
from CIA incompetence and to present a widely discredited agency as,
instead, a victim, than Tenet himself? The man who kept the knowledge of the
Minnesota flight schools to himself and who was facing every kind of
investigation and obloquy finally saw a chance to change the subject. If
there is any "irony" in the absurd and expensive and pointless brouhaha that
followed, it is that he was abetted in this by so many who consider
themselves "radical."

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair. His most recent book is
Thomas Jefferson: Author of America.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2148555/


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"Captain Compassion" <dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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> On 29 Aug 2006 07:50:57 -0700, "Slo" <Slos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Pookie wrote:
>>>
>>> One of the false claims Mr. Wilson made was that he had been sent to
>>> Niger
>>> at the request of Vice President Dick Cheney. In his July 14, 2003
>>> column,
>>> Robert Novak disclosed that he had been sent instead at the insistence
>>> of
>>> his wife, Valerie Plame, who worked at the CIA.
>>
>>This is pure bullshit. Jack Kelly goes on to lie some more
>>and I stop reading.
>>
>>Right-wing journalist = professional liar
>
> So Armitage outed Plame? Go get'em Fitz.
==========================

The investigation is over. No one was indicted because there was no crime.

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Neocon Oil Cheerleaders

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In article <44f4c13c$0$12290$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com>, "2006 Hurricane Season A Bust" <no Canes in 10 weeks @ atlantic.earth> says...
Show a URL quoting Joe Wilson saying that Dick Cheney sent him
to Niger. The quote you listed had nothing to do with this claim.
The Intel committee chair you quote is a Republican anyway, and
we know they can't be trusted. I can quote Bush lies from credible
sources, and he's the fucking president, what's YOUR problem?


"...Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government
talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court
order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about
chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order
before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand,
when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place
when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland,
because we value the Constitution...."

George W Bush lying his ass off on April 20, 2004

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html

BC

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No. Pat Roberts is no more than a lying-ass
scumbag who's been holding up the long, LONG
delayed "Phase II" part of the Report of Pre-war
Intelligence. This part is suppose to basically
determine if Bush deliberately cherrypicked and
misrepresented the intelligence to justify the
invasion, but Roberts and the other Republicans
on the committee have been stonewalling and
delaying the releaseof the report for years now :
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_stalling_prewar_intelligence_1202.html
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Roberts
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/HowSenate_Intelligence_chairman_fixed_intelligence_and_diverted_blame_fromWhite_House__0811.html

Wilson's report to the CIA appears in part in this
Senate Intellligence Committee report here:
(warning -- it's over 20 Mb in size):
http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf

The section in the main report dealing with Wilson's
assignment to Niger begins on page 49 (by Adobe's
count; 39 in the report itself.)

The lying ass claim that this report discredited
Wilson comes from a separate section authored by
the Three Evil Stooges (aka senators Pat Roberts,
Orrin Hatch, and Christopher Bond) and don't begin
until on page 451 (by Adobe's count; page 441 in
the report itself.) They simply fed in some long
discredited RNC talking points BS as part of the
smear campaign against Wilson. They have been
chronically lying, especially Hatch, about how the
"report" discredited Wilson when in fact he and
the other liars were forced to put the bulk of their
smears in a separate "Additional Views" supplement
authored by them and them only.

ALL of the "Joe Wilson Lied" lies, without exception,
originated with Republicans and their lying-ass flunkies
like Stephen Hayes and Jeff Gannon:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200502120003

Which was aided and abetted by lazy-ass corporate
media outlets:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200507140001

And endlessly repeated in the right-wing blog
sites and in Usenet by the dim and dimmer.

Hope this enlightens.

-BC

Nebuchadnezzar II

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> The Intel Committee chair concluded:
>
> "I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
> conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador
> Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."
>
> John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) [Vice Chairman]
>
> Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
>
> Carl Levin (D-MI)
>
> Ron Wyden (D-OR)
>
> Evan Bayh (D-IN)
>
> Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD)
>
> Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ)

The Senators you listed were NOT attributed to the above statement,
dipshit. The full committee did NOT issue that statement. It was only
a product of Roberts, Hatch, and Bond. They couldn't even get all the
Repuplicans on the intelligence committee to go along with it, you
retard.

And yet the Committee didn't conclude anything of the sort. That's a
fact.


Nebuchadnezzar II

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Aug 30, 2006, 1:20:56 AM8/30/06
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> The Intel Committee chair concluded:
>
> "I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
> conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador
> Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."
>
> John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) [Vice Chairman]
>
> Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
>
> Carl Levin (D-MI)
>
> Ron Wyden (D-OR)
>
> Evan Bayh (D-IN)
>
> Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD)
>
> Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ)

The Senators you listed were NOT attributed to the above statement,


dipshit. The full committee did NOT issue that statement. It was only
a product of Roberts, Hatch, and Bond. They couldn't even get all the
Repuplicans on the intelligence committee to go along with it, you
retard.


>
>
>

And yet the Committee didn't conclude anything of the sort. That's a
fact.

Nebuchadnezzar II

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Aug 30, 2006, 1:21:33 AM8/30/06
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"2006 Hurricane Season A Bust" <no Canes in 10 weeks @ atlantic.earth>
wrote in message news:44f4c1c6$0$12263$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com...
> The Intel Committee chair concluded:
>
> "I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
> conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador
> Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."
>
> John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) [Vice Chairman]
>
> Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
>
> Carl Levin (D-MI)
>
> Ron Wyden (D-OR)
>
> Evan Bayh (D-IN)
>
> Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD)
>
> Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ)

The Senators you listed were NOT attributed to the above statement,


dipshit. The full committee did NOT issue that statement. It was only
a product of Roberts, Hatch, and Bond. They couldn't even get all the
Repuplicans on the intelligence committee to go along with it, you
retard.


>
>
>

And yet the Committee didn't conclude anything of the sort. That's a
fact.

Nebuchadnezzar II

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Aug 30, 2006, 1:21:43 AM8/30/06
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"2006 Hurricane Season A Bust" <no Canes in 10 weeks @ atlantic.earth>
wrote in message news:44f4c1c6$0$12263$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com...
> The Intel Committee chair concluded:
>
> "I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to
> conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador
> Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."
>
> John D. Rockefeller, IV (D-WV) [Vice Chairman]
>
> Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
>
> Carl Levin (D-MI)
>
> Ron Wyden (D-OR)
>
> Evan Bayh (D-IN)
>
> Barbara A. Mikulski (D-MD)
>
> Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ)

The Senators you listed were NOT attributed to the above statement,


dipshit. The full committee did NOT issue that statement. It was only
a product of Roberts, Hatch, and Bond. They couldn't even get all the
Repuplicans on the intelligence committee to go along with it, you
retard.


>
>
>

And yet the Committee didn't conclude anything of the sort. That's a
fact.

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