It's talk like a pirate day (Sept 19th) today
Tian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest: Added free "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" sticker offer.
I still have about 333 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Don Stockbauer
Tian wrote:
> Arr! It be International Talk Like a Pirate Day! Shiver me timbers!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day
But what I've been telling people is that it ought to be called "Talk
Like a Pirate for 20 Sseconds" Day, for that's as long as anybody
keeps doing it. Except maybe a real pirate.
Don Stockbauer
Hell, don't go by me. Talk like a pirate 24/7. Follow your dream.
Don Stockbauer
"E Pluribus Unum."
From many, one.
I wonder if that could happen on a global scale?
Tian
Everybody has one life to live. Everybody has one belly to fill (unless
they are responsible for more than that...). I don't want to think about
globalizing contempt for the POTUS, but it seems to be happening...
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest: Added free "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" sticker offer.
I still have about 286 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 10:35 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sep 19, 2:07 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Tian wrote:
> >>>> Arr! It be International Talk Like a Pirate Day! Shiver me timbers!
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Talk_Like_a_Pirate_Day
> >>> But what I've been telling people is that it ought to be called "Talk
> >>> Like a Pirate for 20 Sseconds" Day, for that's as long as anybody
> >>> keeps doing it. Except maybe a real pirate.
> >> Hell, don't go by me. Talk like a pirate 24/7. Follow your dream.
>
> > "E Pluribus Unum."
>
> > From many, one.
>
> > I wonder if that could happen on a global scale?
>
> Everybody has one life to live. Everybody has one belly to fill (unless
> they are responsible for more than that...). I don't want to think about
> globalizing contempt for the POTUS, but it seems to be happening...
>
Was thinking more of the Global Brain (imagine that). "From many,
one" could be its motto, only scaled up from the US sense.
Tian
There are things about Americans that aren't the same as other countrys.
For example. We elect nincompoops from time to time. The Brits inherit
them every now and then. At least a few other places change their
systems often enough that generalizations that work for us might not
work for them.
Have you seen Darwin's Nightmare?
Don Stockbauer
The whole idea of the metasystem transition (which the Global Brain
is) is that widely varying systems combine into a single system at a
higher level than the constituant systems. The individual countries
would not have to have the same form of government. Diversity is
encouraged.
I had heard of this movie but didn't know much about it until I read
some summaries, inspired by your post. All I can think of is that
local environmental problems are probably inevitable, but the whole
Earth should come into some sort of balance as long as we don't
totally mess it up, say through climate change. And perhaps even such
a case as lake Victoria can be reversed and made diversified again.
The idea behind the Global Brain is that all the highly complex
systems of the Earth would combine into a singe meta-complex system,
which would be beyond the ability of any one person to wholly
understand, but all the people of the Earth as a group could
understand it, they being in effect a large brain..
Tian
I had this thought "what if the global brain is local thought pollution
in Victoria?"
>
> The idea behind the Global Brain is that all the highly complex
> systems of the Earth would combine into a singe meta-complex system,
> which would be beyond the ability of any one person to wholly
> understand, but all the people of the Earth as a group could
> understand it, they being in effect a large brain..
Ummm... What if Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound" was just another
way to describe the sound of vacuum cleaners all over the world hitting
individual ears, but not exactly at the same time. Just statistically.
Don Stockbauer
Anything's possible. Hard to prove or falsify any claim made for any
of this stuff. However, I don't think it's local to Victoria, Texas
for many people around the globe believe in it, especially the people
who came up with it and promoted it before I had even heard of it (see
the Principia Cybernetica).
You do know that this very thread helps form the Global Brain, nicht
war?
>
> >
> > The idea behind the Global Brain is that all the highly complex
> > systems of the Earth would combine into a singe meta-complex system,
> > which would be beyond the ability of any one person to wholly
> > understand, but all the people of the Earth as a group could
> > understand it, they being in effect a large brain..
>
> Ummm... What if Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound" was just another
> way to describe the sound of vacuum cleaners all over the world hitting
> individual ears, but not exactly at the same time. Just statistically.
Well, for people using vacuum cleaners in their profession that sound
would be the antithesis of a GSS, for it means jobs, not losing them,
which all borders on paradox.
I had missed that particular phrase, had to wiki it, but then, I'm not
very political.
Is the little feller still around? Not the Space Child, I mean Perot?
Perhaps the GSS refers to "Screw Like a Whore" Day.
Don Stockbauer
> On Sep 21, 4:06 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>
>
> Is the little feller still around? Not the Space Child, I mean Perot?
DANM! I meant Star Child. Sorry.
Don Stockbauer
Don Stockbauer
Mudge
On 09/22/2008 06:43:43 Don Stockbauer wrote:
> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> mastectomies?
> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
> No applause, uh save it for the end.
Your last ten posts would indicate to me that you are soooooo bored !!!
But then, I have been wrong before this !
--
The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary)
Please save our endangered CO2 ~ plant many trees
Tian
I so miss my Orange County days...
Tian
> Eat more pecans.
Last time I checked the walnuts (the nuts available locally here)
weren't quite ready to eat yet.
Tian
>
> On 09/22/2008 06:43:43 Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
>> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
>> mastectomies?
>
>> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
>
>> No applause, uh save it for the end.
>
>
> Your last ten posts would indicate to me that you are soooooo bored !!!
>
> But then, I have been wrong before this !
>
>
were supposed to be the window to his soul, but every time he looked
out through them all he saw was the real world and a feeling "there must
be something else".
Tian
> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> mastectomies?
Victims of corporate america's poisoning of the environment?
>
> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
>
Doh! That's a funny one... The exact opposite of what the Indiana
quarter implies.
Don Stockbauer
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sep 20, 11:41 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 12:12 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
I had this thought "what if the global brain is local thought
pollution
in Victoria?"
Run along, Tian. Have a nice life.
Don Stockbauer
> On 09/22/2008 06:43:43 Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> > What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> > mastectomies?
> > THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
> > No applause, uh save it for the end.
>
> Your last ten posts would indicate to me that you are soooooo bored !!!
>
> But then, I have been wrong before this !
>
No, I have Harter's scintillating posts for entertainment.
Don Stockbauer
> Mudge wrote:
>
> > On 09/22/2008 06:43:43 Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> >> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> >> mastectomies?
>
> >> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
>
> >> No applause, uh save it for the end.
>
> > Your last ten posts would indicate to me that you are soooooo bored !!!
>
> > But then, I have been wrong before this !
>
> I was thinking maybe he was stuck in a loop. Kind of like his eyes
> were supposed to be the window to his soul, but every time he looked
> out through them all he saw was the real world and a feeling "there must
> be something else".
Looking at your verbiage, you're right, there must be something else.
Don Stockbauer
>
> I had this thought "what if the global brain is local thought pollution
> in Victoria?"
>
The logical reply is "What if the Green Party is local thought
pollution in Mountain View, CA?'' A bunch of people just not
thinking big enough.
Don Stockbauer
You're so good at non-sequiturs.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> > mastectomies?
>
> Victims of corporate america's poisoning of the environment?
>
>
>
> > THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
>
> Doh! That's a funny one... The exact opposite of what the Indiana
> quarter implies.
>
Collossal waste of effort on making those 50 designs, when the US mint
cudda kept cranking out the same old crap.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > Eat more pecans.
>
> Last time I checked the walnuts (the nuts available locally here)
> weren't quite ready to eat yet.
>
Oh, I didn't say the new crop is ready. There's plenty available on
cold storage.
Don Stockbauer
if that person's beliefs have the power to change the world.
Don Stockbauer
Don Stockbauer
Global Brain's permanent memory, to be retrieve at will from here on
out. Hasn't alt.fan.hofstadter become quite interesting the last few
days? Enjoy, Alvin, in Diaspar in 1,000,000,000 AD.
Don Stockbauer
I had this thought - What if Tian Harter gets killed in a head-on
collision? Will the Global Brain care that one out of 6.5 billion of
its nerve cells has died?
A thought you might entertain every now and then is to watch what the
fuck you say to people. Of course, you haven't contributed anything
worthwhile here in ages, just the above type heckling.
Have a nice day, asshole.
Don Stockbauer
Nighty night, former friend.
Don Stockbauer
whatsoever and it dutifully records it forever and makes it available
for retrieval. Simply amazing.
As long as the System tolerates such a luxury.
Don Stockbauer
Tian
stickers. Today I found homes for maybe half a dozen McKinney 2008
stickers.
What's thinking bigger than "the rubber meets the road at the sticker?"
Tian
Back then I spent lots of time screwing.
Tian
You may not like it, but I've gotten considerable entertainment value
out of them. Just today I found out that the coin broker has Alaska
quarters, but only the P version. Now I gotta decide, do I go up there
for that?
Tian
All I have in cold storage is almonds. Not in the mood for them now...
Tian
> November 25, 2009.
Ummm... That would be late next year to me.
Tian
Ummmm.... I guess I made you mad with that one. Sorry about that.
Don Stockbauer
There's just something about saying to someone "What you believe is a
piece of crap." Most of the time whenever I do that (and it's usually
because of my temper) I see the person fading over the horizon
(Earthly, not causal).
I should be used to it by now, but I'll never be, it's all too
complex, "There are more things in heaven and earth....." Welcome to
the goldfish bowl, everyone.
I should also know by now not to have extreme reactions to events, but
I still do, that'll probably never completely go away.
I was going to delete all my posts from this thread and give it a rest
for a while, but maybe i'll just leave them as a mini-example of human
interaction.
Appy-polly-loggy accepted.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 22, 4:22 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> >>> mastectomies?
> >> Victims of corporate america's poisoning of the environment?
>
> >>> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
> >> Doh! That's a funny one... The exact opposite of what the Indiana
> >> quarter implies.
>
> > Collossal waste of effort on making those 50 designs, when the US mint
> > cudda kept cranking out the same old crap.
>
> You may not like it, but I've gotten considerable entertainment value
> out of them. Just today I found out that the coin broker has Alaska
> quarters, but only the P version. Now I gotta decide, do I go up there
> for that?
To Alaska?
Tian
The Coin Broker. I'm dithering because I sort of think that people might
think "Alaska" means Palin. I don't want to give the idea I support
Palin. What I support it change. Coin art good. VP Candidate Unknown.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 1:40 am, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>> On Sep 22, 4:22 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >>>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>>>> What do you call 500 Native American women who have had radical
> >>>>> mastectomies?
> >>>> Victims of corporate america's poisoning of the environment?
> >>>>> THE INDIAN NIPPLESS 500!!!!!
> >>>> Doh! That's a funny one... The exact opposite of what the Indiana
> >>>> quarter implies.
> >>> Collossal waste of effort on making those 50 designs, when the US mint
> >>> cudda kept cranking out the same old crap.
> >> You may not like it, but I've gotten considerable entertainment value
> >> out of them. Just today I found out that the coin broker has Alaska
> >> quarters, but only the P version. Now I gotta decide, do I go up there
> >> for that?
>
> > To Alaska?
>
> The Coin Broker. I'm dithering because I sort of think that people might
> think "Alaska" means Palin. I don't want to give the idea I support
> Palin. What I support it change. Coin art good. VP Candidate Unknown.
Odd that she's come to be symbolic of the whole state. Did you ever
notice how strongly her ears slant back? I'd think that she would
want to always wear a big hat or such to hide them.
I've gotten some entertainment value too out of them. Haven't nearly
seen all 50, so every now and them a new one enters my ken and I
marvel at what's thereon.
That new Jefferson nickle threw me the first time I saw it, thought it
wasn't a nickle.
Tian
I just got my first Alaska quarter. It features a bear that just caught
a salmon in front of a waterfall under a tree.
>
> That new Jefferson nickle threw me the first time I saw it, thought it
> wasn't a nickle.
You mean the one with "liberty" in Jefferson's own hand writing?
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 12:41 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>> To Alaska?
> >> The Coin Broker. I'm dithering because I sort of think that people might
> >> think "Alaska" means Palin. I don't want to give the idea I support
> >> Palin. What I support it change. Coin art good. VP Candidate Unknown.
>
> > Odd that she's come to be symbolic of the whole state. Did you ever
> > notice how strongly her ears slant back? I'd think that she would
> > want to always wear a big hat or such to hide them.
>
> > I've gotten some entertainment value too out of them. Haven't nearly
> > seen all 50, so every now and them a new one enters my ken and I
> > marvel at what's thereon.
>
> I just got my first Alaska quarter. It features a bear that just caught
> a salmon in front of a waterfall under a tree.
>
That sounds a-pro-poe for I'll-ask-her.
>
> > That new Jefferson nickle threw me the first time I saw it, thought it
> > wasn't a nickle.
>
> You mean the one with "liberty" in Jefferson's own hand writing?
Yeah, and he's not in profile but nearly face on.
You are slowly convincing me that perhaps the true value of coins is
not their value as money but in all the neat stuff embossed upon them
Tian
> On Sep 23, 10:46 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>> On Sep 23, 12:41 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>>>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>>> To Alaska?
>>>> The Coin Broker. I'm dithering because I sort of think that people might
>>>> think "Alaska" means Palin. I don't want to give the idea I support
>>>> Palin. What I support it change. Coin art good. VP Candidate Unknown.
>>> Odd that she's come to be symbolic of the whole state. Did you ever
>>> notice how strongly her ears slant back? I'd think that she would
>>> want to always wear a big hat or such to hide them.
>>> I've gotten some entertainment value too out of them. Haven't nearly
>>> seen all 50, so every now and them a new one enters my ken and I
>>> marvel at what's thereon.
>> I just got my first Alaska quarter. It features a bear that just caught
>> a salmon in front of a waterfall under a tree.
>>
>
> That sounds a-pro-poe for I'll-ask-her.
You know, tell her is a town in that State to.
>
>>> That new Jefferson nickle threw me the first time I saw it, thought it
>>> wasn't a nickle.
>> You mean the one with "liberty" in Jefferson's own hand writing?
>
> Yeah, and he's not in profile but nearly face on.
>
> You are slowly convincing me that perhaps the true value of coins is
> not their value as money but in all the neat stuff embossed upon them
I did not think change was possible in Texas...
Mudge
On 09/24/2008 15:32:51 Tian wrote:
> I did not think change was possible in Texas...
Must be - elsewise Santa Ana would still be in the Alamo and there'd be
no Bushes anywhere in sight !
--
The Canadian Curmudgeon (in Calgary)
Please save our endangered CO2 ~ plant many trees
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 10:46 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>> On Sep 23, 12:41 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >>>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> >>>>> To Alaska?
> >>>> The Coin Broker. I'm dithering because I sort of think that people might
> >>>> think "Alaska" means Palin. I don't want to give the idea I support
> >>>> Palin. What I support it change. Coin art good. VP Candidate Unknown.
> >>> Odd that she's come to be symbolic of the whole state. Did you ever
> >>> notice how strongly her ears slant back? I'd think that she would
> >>> want to always wear a big hat or such to hide them.
> >>> I've gotten some entertainment value too out of them. Haven't nearly
> >>> seen all 50, so every now and them a new one enters my ken and I
> >>> marvel at what's thereon.
> >> I just got my first Alaska quarter. It features a bear that just caught
> >> a salmon in front of a waterfall under a tree.
>
> > That sounds a-pro-poe for I'll-ask-her.
>
> You know, tell her is a town in that State to.
I bet that town changed its name in response to that Juneau, I'll-ask-
her joke.
>
>
> >>> That new Jefferson nickle threw me the first time I saw it, thought it
> >>> wasn't a nickle.
> >> You mean the one with "liberty" in Jefferson's own hand writing?
>
> > Yeah, and he's not in profile but nearly face on.
>
> > You are slowly convincing me that perhaps the true value of coins is
> > not their value as money but in all the neat stuff embossed upon them
>
> I did not think change was possible in Texas...
Of course it is. We go from one redneck attitude to another.
Don Stockbauer
> On 09/24/2008 15:32:51 Tian wrote:
>
> > I did not think change was possible in Texas...
>
> Must be - elsewise Santa Ana would still be in the Alamo and there'd be
> no Bushes anywhere in sight !
Did you know that when Santa Ana was captured after the glorious
victory at San Jacinto he had made it to a point some 10 miles SE of
present day Brazos Bend State Park? The glorious Texan Freedom
Fighters chained him to a tree there; there's an old granite
historical marker giving the details way back on a small gravel road
that my aunt's husband told me about and gave me directions to, but
I've just never taken the time to seek it out. Maybe some day.
Tian
>
> On 09/24/2008 15:32:51 Tian wrote:
>
>> I did not think change was possible in Texas...
>
>
> Must be - elsewise Santa Ana would still be in the Alamo and there'd be
> no Bushes anywhere in sight !
>
>
you mention it...
--
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest: Added an Alaska change picture.
Don Stockbauer
> Mudge wrote:
>
> > On 09/24/2008 15:32:51 Tian wrote:
>
> >> I did not think change was possible in Texas...
>
> > Must be - elsewise Santa Ana would still be in the Alamo and there'd be
> > no Bushes anywhere in sight !
>
> It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
> you mention it...
You must know something I don't. It's really the huisatches. Except
north of about Gonzales, where they freeze out.
Mudge
On 09/25/2008 02:00:49 Tian wrote:
> It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
> you mention it...
Manzanitas ???
Dare I ask !
Mudge
On 09/25/2008 06:26:07 Don Stockbauer wrote:
> You must know something I don't. It's really the huisatches. Except
> north of about Gonzales, where they freeze out.
"Huisatches" ???
Asks he cautiously !
Don Stockbauer
> On 09/25/2008 02:00:49 Tian wrote:
>
> > It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
> > you mention it...
>
> Manzanitas ???
>
> Dare I ask !
>
You've asked!!!!!
************************
Manzanita
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Manzanita
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
Order: Ericales
Family: Ericaceae
Genus: Arctostaphylos
Species
See text
For other uses, see Manzanita (disambiguation).
The Manzanitas are a subgenus of the genus Arctostaphylos. They are
evergreen shrubs or small trees present in the chaparral biome of
western North America, where they occur from southern British Columbia
in Canada, Washington to California and New Mexico in the United
States, and throughout much of northern and central Mexico. They are
characterised by smooth, orange or red bark and stiff, twisting
branches. There are about 60 species of manzanita, ranging from ground-
hugging coastal and mountain species to small trees up to 6m tall.
Manzanitas bloom in the winter to early spring and carry berries in
spring and summer. The berries and flowers of most species are edible.
See also Bearberry for other species in the same genus.
The word manzanita is the Spanish diminutive of manzana (apple). A
literal translation would be little apple. The name manzanita is also
sometimes used to refer to species in the related genus Arbutus, which
is known by that name in the Canadian area of the tree's range, but is
more usually known as madroño, or madrone in the United States.
Contents
[hide]
* 1 Uses
* 2 Threats
* 3 See also
* 4 References
* 5 External links
[edit] Uses
A Manzanita bush.
A Manzanita bush.
Traditional uses of the plant include collecting the berries, drying
them, and grinding them up into a coarse meal. Fresh berries and
branch tips were also soaked in water and drunk, making a refreshing
cider. When the bark curls off, it can be used as a tea for nausea and
upset stomach[citation needed]. The younger leaves are sometimes
plucked and chewed by hikers to deter thirst[citation needed]. Native
Americans used Manzanita leaves as toothbrushes. [1]
Manzanitas are extremely useful as ornamental plants in the western
United States and other similar climate zones. They are evergreen,
highly drought-tolerant, have picturesque bark and attractive flowers
and berries, and come in many sizes and growth patterns. A.
columbiana, for example, is hardy enough to be used for highway
landscaping in western Oregon and Washington. A. 'emerald carpet', A.
uva-ursi, and other low-growing manzanitas are extremely valuable
evergreen groundcovers for dry slopes. Larger varieties can be grown
as individual specimens, and pruned to emphasize the striking pattern
and colors of the branches. They prefer light, well-drained soil,
although the low-growing ground covers will tolerate heavier soils.
Manzanita branches are popular as decoration, due to their unique
shape, color, and strength when dried.
Manzanita bark
Manzanita bark
The wood is notoriously hard to cure, mostly due to cracking against
the grain, giving it few uses as timber. The slow growth rate and many
branchings further decrease the sizes available. Some furniture and
art employ whole round branches, which reduces cracking and preserves
the deep red color.
The dead wood decays slowly and can last for many years, on and off
the plant. Sunlight smooths and bleaches manzanita to light grey or
white, rendering it superficially akin to animal bones. Because of
this and the stunted growth of many species, manzanita is often
collected in its more unusual shapes, giving it the nickname mountain
driftwood.
Manzanita wood is also used as perches for parrots and other large pet
birds. The branches of the larger species are extremely long-lasting
for this purpose.
Some aquarium keepers use sandblasted manzanita as driftwood in
planted aquaria because of its attractive forked growth and its
chemical neutrality. If properly cleaned and cured, it holds up well
over extended periods of submersion. The wood is also resistant to the
leaching of tannins into the water column, a problem often found with
other aquarium driftwoods. When used as driftwood, manzanita must
often be either weighted down for several weeks or soaked first to
counteract the wood's natural buoyancy.
Manzanita wood, when dry, is excellent for burning in a campfire,
barbecue, fireplace, or stove. It is dense and burns at a high
temperature for long periods. However, caution should be exercised,
because the high temperatures can damage thin-walled barbecues, and
even crack cast iron stoves or cause chimney fires.
[edit] Threats
Some manzanita species are among the rarest plants in the world.
Arctostaphylos hookeri subsp. ravenii (also known as Presidio
manzanita) is the most endangered and restricted plant in the mainland
United States. In 1987 only one specimen remained, at a secret
location in the Presidio of San Francisco National Historic Landmark
District in San Francisco, California. This plant has since been
successfully cloned. [2]
[edit] See also
* Chamise
* Coyote brush
[edit] References
1. ^ Bear Grylls Man vs. Wild Sierra Nevada episode (US: 8 December
2006 Discovery Channel, UK: 31 Mar 2007 Channel 4)
2. ^ 02.08.95 - Researching The Last Manzanita
[edit] External links
* San Francisco Chronicle Story – Part 1 (May 2008) "Mysterious
Manzanita Baffles Homeowners", by: Ron Sullivan, Joe Eaton, Wednesday,
May 7, 2008. Of great interest note in Article that this is not
Presidio manzanita but an as yet unclassified species!
* ITIS 23467 ITIS species list
* Manzanita in Central Arizona Good photo of the copper colored
bark.
* SF Weekly cover story about the Manzanita (April 2008)
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanita"
Categories: Arctostaphylos | Flora of California | Medicinal plants
Now let's all repeat after me: TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!!
Don Stockbauer
> On 09/25/2008 06:26:07 Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> > You must know something I don't. It's really the huisatches. Except
> > north of about Gonzales, where they freeze out.
>
> "Huisatches" ???
>
> Asks he cautiously !
>
Your wish is my cybernetic command!!!!!!!
****************************
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana
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Huisache
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
Order: Fabales
Family: Fabaceae
Genus: Acacia
Species: A. farnesiana
Trinomial name
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana
Synonyms
* "Acacia densiflora (Small) Cory
* Acacia ferox M. Martens & Galeotti
* Acacia minuta (M.E. Jones) R.M. Beauch. subsp. densiflora
(Small)R.M.Beauch.
* Acacia pedunculata Willd.
* Acacia smallii Isely
* Vachellia densiflora Small
* Vachellia farnesiana (L.) Wight & Arn."[1]
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana, commonly known as huisache or sweet
acacia, is an acacia tree or shrub which grows readily when disturbed
and is considered to be a nuisance plant. Huisache grows from ten to
thirty feet in the South Texas Plains and Edwards Plateau. Deer and
javelina eat its fruit, various birds use the plant for nesting and
cover, and insects eat the nectar from its flowers. The drought
tolerant species has pairs of thorns at the base of each leaf.
[edit] Examples of Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana; Flowers and Foliage
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana; Seeds Pods and Foliage
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana; Bark and Thorns
Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana; Tree
[edit] References
1. ^ "Acacia smallii - ILDIS LegumeWeb". www.ildis.org. Retrieved
on 2008-05-15.
[edit] External links
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Acacia smallii
* Native Plants of South Texas: Acacia smallii
* University of Arizona Pima County Cooperative Extension: Acacia
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I spent much of my misspent youth pouring diesel fuel on these
things. They'll take over a pasture. I'm just letting them go now so
that the rich doctor or lawyer who gets this land after I dissociate
will have to do some dozer work.
Tian
Did you mean this kind of thing?:
http://static.flickr.com/57/221627319_4eb38c8c5e.jpg
Google calls those huizaches.
I've not heard of those before. Not sure how to pronounce that word.
Who-za-Che? (as in Che Guavara)
--
Tian
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I still have about 258 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Tian
> On Sep 25, 11:15 am, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:
>> On 09/25/2008 02:00:49 Tian wrote:
>>
>>> It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
>>> you mention it...
>> Manzanitas ???
>>
>> Dare I ask !
>>
>
> Arctostaphylos hookeri subsp. ravenii (also known as Presidio
> manzanita) is the most endangered and restricted plant in the mainland
> United States. In 1987 only one specimen remained, at a secret
> location in the Presidio of San Francisco National Historic Landmark
> District in San Francisco, California. This plant has since been
> successfully cloned. [2]
>
Note: this entire species boils down to one plant in Golden Gate Park
as of 1987. Some cloning may have raised the number since then.
--
Tian
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I still have about 258 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Tian
>
> I spent much of my misspent youth pouring diesel fuel on these
> things. They'll take over a pasture. I'm just letting them go now so
> that the rich doctor or lawyer who gets this land after I dissociate
> will have to do some dozer work.
Do they give you much fuel if you harvest the wood regularly?
--
Tian
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I still have about 258 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Mudge
On 09/25/2008 11:53:45 Don Stockbauer wrote:
> Now let's all repeat after me: TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!!
Not at all, thankew
Mudge
On 09/25/2008 11:59:54 Don Stockbauer wrote:
> I spent much of my misspent youth pouring diesel fuel on these things.
> They'll take over a pasture. I'm just letting them go now so that the
> rich doctor or lawyer who gets this land after I dissociate will have to
> do some dozer work.
Ah, yes, the Acacia - I am familiar with it even tho' it grows nowhere
near here - thankew again
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 3:00 am, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
> >> Mudge wrote:
>
> >>> On 09/24/2008 15:32:51 Tian wrote:
> >>>> I did not think change was possible in Texas...
> >>> Must be - elsewise Santa Ana would still be in the Alamo and there'd be
> >>> no Bushes anywhere in sight !
> >> It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
> >> you mention it...
>
> > You must know something I don't. It's really the huisatches. Except
> > north of about Gonzales, where they freeze out.
>
> Did you mean this kind of thing?:
>
> http://static.flickr.com/57/221627319_4eb38c8c5e.jpg
>
> Google calls those huizaches.
>
> I've not heard of those before. Not sure how to pronounce that word.
>
> Who-za-Che? (as in Che Guavara)
That a different plant in that flickr pic. It grows more upright.
The anglicized spelling is weesatch, or weesatche. It's pronounced WE
satch. The military has usurpted the name, naturally.
The deal is it doesn't grow much north of here in Victoria, it freezes
out there. But here it takes over grazing land. When I grew up here
it was a miserable ritual to go out and "oil them out", pour diesel
oil, pipeline drip, whatever on them. Now they have noxious chemicals
to do the trick. They will completely shade out grass. My solution
is to have fewer and fewer cows until I die, and let that rich lawyer
who buys the place have to bulldoze them.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Sep 25, 11:15 am, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:
> >> On 09/25/2008 02:00:49 Tian wrote:
>
> >>> It's true, the manzanitas seem to be marching across the State, now that
> >>> you mention it...
> >> Manzanitas ???
>
> >> Dare I ask !
>
> > Some manzanita species are among the rarest plants in the world.
> > Arctostaphylos hookeri subsp. ravenii (also known as Presidio
> > manzanita) is the most endangered and restricted plant in the mainland
> > United States. In 1987 only one specimen remained, at a secret
> > location in the Presidio of San Francisco National Historic Landmark
> > District in San Francisco, California. This plant has since been
> > successfully cloned. [2]
>
> Note: this entire species boils down to one plant in Golden Gate Park
> as of 1987. Some cloning may have raised the number since then.
That reminds me of the Great Auk. Similar to a penguin. At one time
there were uncountable numbers of them in the north Atlantic region.
They were hunted down to the point were there was one nesting pair
left on an Icelandic shore (people always assumed there were more to
the north, but that was incorrect). Some collectors for a museum
found the nest, killed and collected the two birds for an exhibit,
and crushed their eggs to make their two collected birds more
valuable. The secial I saw said that it was the only case in history
of the extinction of a species being known exactly, place and time.
Don Stockbauer
They have excellent hard firewood when mature. They can also be
harvested for making ethanol. I've also kind of wondered if someone
could come in and mow and collect my numerous weeds for ethanol. One
guy here tried to get a program like that going for weesatches, but he
said he had to stop due to having to abide by too many government
environment rules.
Tian
What is remembered? What is forgotten? Is that right or wrong?
http://tian.greens.org/CurrentState.html
I added the picture behind the tomato and the quarter at the bottom just
now.
Tian
Sounds like time to do some "illegal but moral" black market activity...
Don Stockbauer
Many species through history have gone extinct. Many more than that
exist now. They had to to make room for us. Is that right or wrong?
I don't know.
Don Stockbauer
I agree. It takes a pretty big operation to make ethanol.
Tian
> On Sep 25, 6:37 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>> On Sep 25, 2:03 pm, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>>>> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 25, 11:17 am, Mudge <Mu...@nospam.ever> wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/25/2008 06:26:07 Don Stockbauer wrote:
>>>>>>> You must know something I don't. It's really the huisatches. Except
>>>>>>> north of about Gonzales, where they freeze out.
>>>>>> "Huisatches" ???
>>>>>> Asks he cautiously !
>>>>> Your wish is my cybernetic command!!!!!!!
>>>>> ****************************
>>>>> Acacia farnesiana var. farnesiana
(snip)
>>>> Do they give you much fuel if you harvest the wood regularly?
>>> They have excellent hard firewood when mature. They can also be
>>> harvested for making ethanol. I've also kind of wondered if someone
>>> could come in and mow and collect my numerous weeds for ethanol. One
>>> guy here tried to get a program like that going for weesatches, but he
>>> said he had to stop due to having to abide by too many government
>>> environment rules.
>> Sounds like time to do some "illegal but moral" black market activity...
>
> I agree. It takes a pretty big operation to make ethanol.
>
>
Sounds like he needs bank involvement. Banks need legal to get involved.
Don Stockbauer
I saw his ad in Dierlam's Feed Store. When I called him he was on a
tractor somewhere. He said that EPA regulations shut him down. I
haven't seen anyone else with a similar ad. Maybe it's not too
efficient when you consider you have to go out and collect brush (as
opposed to corn which is more easily harvested). Then there are all
the inefficiencies of ethanol production. I'm waiting for another ad
to go up.
Don Stockbauer
Are there any banks left functioning?
Tian
I just got back from California Bank & Trust. I got a roll of Alaska
quarters as cash back for my deposit, so it looks like they are in business.
--
Tian
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Latest: Added a Pennsylvania change picture.
I still have about 186 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Don Stockbauer
Well, then at least CB&T is still going, Are I'll ask her 0.25's
nicely designed????
Tian
http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/ChangePictures/ChangeSince07.html
I like it. Scroll to the bottom of the page. Tell me what you think.
Don Stockbauer
That is nice. A bear eating a salmon. I should have guessed. I
mean, like, what else?
Palo Duro Canyon. Can't be the second largest. I mean, The Black
Canyon of the Gunnison surely has it beat. The Rio Grande Gorge in
northern NM is pretty neat, but not large. What I remember about it
hiking to the river is that it was as steep as the Grand Canyon, you
were basically climbing stairsteps in the rock the whole time. Some
years back I went to the Black Canyon of the G. and I was amazed that
you could actually hike down to the river, it's steep as all get out.
You scramble down one of the side drainages, like going down a creek
full of debris at about a 45 degree angle or so. There were a few
showers in the area and the ranger didn't say I couldn't try it, but
it was like "you're a fool if you do". I'm kinda glad he talked me
out of it. like that old non-maintained trail at Lee's Ferry at the
head of the Grand Canyon. Never was able to find its start, and that
was prolly for the best.
Don Stockbauer
Then there was Lava falls. this is at the far wets end of the grand
Canyon; her elava flows have blocked the canyon once uopn a time and
made the whole canyon a reservoir. the hike down to the rievr ther
eis over lava shards and strudy boots must be worn. At the river I
saw some guy about to run the rapeds there (some of the worst of the
whoel canyon) and he said "No pleasue in seeing me run the rapids
today, for I will port around" are ly got bacout of there, in places
you slipslide sown losse rok and dirt and it makes getting back
problematical. youre suppose to tell someoen you go on these hikes
but heck i just threw caution to the wind and went without doing that
and that could eva very well been the end of your humble narrator as
if n e 1 cared.
Tian
> On Oct 1, 1:58 am, Tian <tnhar...@aceweb.com> wrote:
>> http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/ChangePictures/ChangeSince07.html
>>
>> I like it. Scroll to the bottom of the page. Tell me what you think.
>
> That is nice. A bear eating a salmon. I should have guessed. I
> mean, like, what else?
An oil rig? Actually, I'm glad that big oil didn't end up on any
quarters. Alaska would have been one of the states it would have made
sense on.
Native Americans? Fishermen?
Actually, I like the Alaska quarter. It's one of the better ones for sure.
>
> Palo Duro Canyon. Can't be the second largest. I mean, The Black
> Canyon of the Gunnison surely has it beat. The Rio Grande Gorge in
> northern NM is pretty neat, but not large. What I remember about it
> hiking to the river is that it was as steep as the Grand Canyon, you
> were basically climbing stairsteps in the rock the whole time. Some
> years back I went to the Black Canyon of the G. and I was amazed that
> you could actually hike down to the river, it's steep as all get out.
> You scramble down one of the side drainages, like going down a creek
> full of debris at about a 45 degree angle or so. There were a few
> showers in the area and the ranger didn't say I couldn't try it, but
> it was like "you're a fool if you do". I'm kinda glad he talked me
> out of it. like that old non-maintained trail at Lee's Ferry at the
> head of the Grand Canyon. Never was able to find its start, and that
> was prolly for the best.
>
>
I looked on the map, and Hell's Canyon on the Idaho Oregon border might
be the second largest also. For sure it has a bigger "blob" on the map.
When I think about how your name is dirt in politics if you tell even
one lie, I wonder how many people have lied about second place. Seems to
be a cultural necessity to allow some of it, especially if you inherit
such "wisdom" as "nobody's heard of the 2nd biggest canyon in the USA."
Don Stockbauer
I started reading your sentence "When I think about how your name is
dirt in politics" and I thought "Yep, he has me pegged."
Yeah, you have the old "Would you lie about the location of your
friend if someone were questioning you in order to kill him/her?" So
white lies serve a purpose. Like avoiding someone's invitation to do
something. You get out of it and the person asking doesn't get the
bad feelings of an outright rejection.
PS - didn't get to proof that previous post, sorry.
Don Stockbauer
Corrected version:
Then there was Lava Falls. This is at the far west end of the Grand
Canyon; here lava flows have blocked the canyon once upon a time and
made the whole canyon a reservoir. The hike down to the river there
is over lava shards and sturdy boots must be worn. At the river I
saw some guy about to run the rapids there (some of the most
difficult of the
whole canyon) and he said "No pleasure in seeing me run the rapids
today, for I will port around". Barely got back out of there, in
places
you slipslide down loose rock and dirt and it makes getting back
problematical. You're supposed to tell someone you go on these hikes
but heck I just threw caution to the wind and went without doing that
and that could very well have been the end of your humble narrator,
as
if anyone cared.
Tian
It was a general comment. Did you notice the part about lying destroys
credibility? More than once in my life I have passed on an opportunity
for commerce because I caught a lie and it made me not want to trade
elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, you have the old "Would you lie about the location of your
> friend if someone were questioning you in order to kill him/her?" So
> white lies serve a purpose. Like avoiding someone's invitation to do
> something. You get out of it and the person asking doesn't get the
> bad feelings of an outright rejection.
Yeah, it also depends how much light is shed on your background.
As the saying goes, "it's all relative". Ewe no?
>
> PS - didn't get to proof that previous post, sorry.
No problem. If I can't figure it out, that's a problem. Not this time.
Tian
>
> Corrected version:
>
> Then there was Lava Falls. This is at the far west end of the Grand
> Canyon; here lava flows have blocked the canyon once upon a time and
> made the whole canyon a reservoir. The hike down to the river there
> is over lava shards and sturdy boots must be worn. At the river I
> saw some guy about to run the rapids there (some of the most
> difficult of the whole canyon) and he said "No pleasure in seeing me
> run the rapids today, for I will port around". Barely got back out
> of there, in places you slipslide down loose rock and dirt and it
> makes getting back problematical. You're supposed to tell someone
> you go on these hikes but heck I just threw caution to the wind and
> went without doing that and that could very well have been the end
> of your humble narrator, as if anyone cared.
There was a time in my life when I really liked running on loose dirt
in steep hills. Slushy hills were good to. I did quite a bit of that
during my Peoria days. I particularly remember a very muddy shortcut
that cut through a grassy embankment on Detweilter when a foot of snow
was melting into the land and it was saturated with water but hadn't
been moved at all and looked very firm. Every time I put my foot down
I'd ski on it for a foot or two before picking that one up and using
the other one. Changing feet was a good way to jump over roots and stuff
like that. I only had one run that magical. I never told anyone where
I went. I could have frozen to death a time or two without anybody
looking for me. I was young and didn't care.
--
Tian
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I still have about 147 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
Don Stockbauer
> Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> > Corrected version:
>
> > Then there was Lava Falls. This is at the far west end of the Grand
> > Canyon; here lava flows have blocked the canyon once upon a time and
> > made the whole canyon a reservoir. The hike down to the river there
> > is over lava shards and sturdy boots must be worn. At the river I
> > saw some guy about to run the rapids there (some of the most
> > difficult of the whole canyon) and he said "No pleasure in seeing me
> > run the rapids today, for I will port around". Barely got back out
> > of there, in places you slipslide down loose rock and dirt and it
> > makes getting back problematical. You're supposed to tell someone
> > you go on these hikes but heck I just threw caution to the wind and
> > went without doing that and that could very well have been the end
> > of your humble narrator, as if anyone cared.
>
> There was a time in my life when I really liked running on loose dirt
> in steep hills. Slushy hills were good to. I did quite a bit of that
> during my Peoria days.
So we might dub this "Tian's Peoria period."
I particularly remember a very muddy shortcut
> that cut through a grassy embankment on Detweilter when a foot of snow
> was melting into the land and it was saturated with water but hadn't
> been moved at all and looked very firm. Every time I put my foot down
> I'd ski on it for a foot or two before picking that one up and using
> the other one. Changing feet was a good way to jump over roots and stuff
> like that. I only had one run that magical. I never told anyone where
> I went. I could have frozen to death a time or two without anybody
> looking for me. I was young and didn't care.
Have never lived where it snows a lot. Down here it's like a light
snow every 10 yeras. What you describe above sound fun. I ran for
exercise for like 5 years, 3 times a week, 2.5 miles each time in like
22 minutes, which all figures out to give you your needed aerobics.
But that finally got to my left ankle, which cannot tolerate any
running of any sort nowadays. So I try to get the aerobics wherever I
can. But lately I've become lazy and don't get them and figure I'll
probably keel over from a heart attack someday, to everyone's relief.
My doc wanted a cardiovascular stress test and I told him "no" after I
found out it was going to cost like 3,000 bucks and I'm uninsured.
Our modern society. In the old days you had to work like hell just to
put food on the table and that kept you healthy, but now we have coy
ann she squats, see?
Tian
I don't get the "coy ann she squats" part. I was thinking that in the
olden days I would probably be nearing the end of my life now. Maybe
another ten years before I get a heart attack or whatever. There are
already a number of my generation that have kicked the bucket. I even
knew some of them.
--
Tian
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I gave Peter Myers (Green Party, 15th CD, California) an Alaska quarter.
Don Stockbauer
coy Ann she squats, see? = Koyaanisqatsi
I know, the NSA probably couln't have decoded that.
Have you ever seen it? "Life out of balance"? What we have now.
Electioneering during a financial crisis.
I've seen scenes from it but never the whole thing, seems the rental
places don't tend to carry it, but I'll keep trying.
I could probably put off Death a ways if I'd just get out there and
exercise more, but if I don't feel like it I just can't force myself.
My deal is that I've keep in touch with so few people I don't know
when they go. One of my high school friends did die about 10 years
ago or so, but he was so self-destructive it's no big surprise. He
was fun to pal around with, I guess because he was like 3 sigmas away
from normal and you just never knew what to expect. One time while
drunk he tried to steer us into an oncoming car while I was driving.
Luckily I overpowered him. And is there any wonder that he's dead?
Tian
Bil Maher made me see it back in the '84 time frame. It was great.
I saw it again more recently, but I don't remember where or why.
I've seen clips from it in other things many times.
>
> I've seen scenes from it but never the whole thing, seems the rental
> places don't tend to carry it, but I'll keep trying.
Good luck! It's worth seeing at least once a decade or so.
>
> I could probably put off Death a ways if I'd just get out there and
> exercise more, but if I don't feel like it I just can't force myself.
I have that effect even worse when I smoke marijuana. Porn newsgroups
also reduce my motivation to go outside and do something.
>
> My deal is that I've keep in touch with so few people I don't know
> when they go. One of my high school friends did die about 10 years
> ago or so, but he was so self-destructive it's no big surprise. He
> was fun to pal around with, I guess because he was like 3 sigmas away
> from normal and you just never knew what to expect. One time while
> drunk he tried to steer us into an oncoming car while I was driving.
> Luckily I overpowered him. And is there any wonder that he's dead?
My sister knew somebody in high school that committed suicide. She said
one time that experience of dealing with it taught her that some people
just aren't worth getting to know...
Don Stockbauer
Will do.
>
> > I could probably put off Death a ways if I'd just get out there and
> > exercise more, but if I don't feel like it I just can't force myself.
>
> I have that effect even worse when I smoke marijuana. Porn newsgroups
> also reduce my motivation to go outside and do something.
>
Hmmmm..... can't think of much of a reply to that.
>
>
> > My deal is that I've keep in touch with so few people I don't know
> > when they go. One of my high school friends did die about 10 years
> > ago or so, but he was so self-destructive it's no big surprise. He
> > was fun to pal around with, I guess because he was like 3 sigmas away
> > from normal and you just never knew what to expect. One time while
> > drunk he tried to steer us into an oncoming car while I was driving.
> > Luckily I overpowered him. And is there any wonder that he's dead?
>
> My sister knew somebody in high school that committed suicide. She said
> one time that experience of dealing with it taught her that some people
> just aren't worth getting to know...
Yeah, I guess you could say that of Kevin, the fellow I knew in high
school mentioned above. In high school he was worthwhile to be
around, but after graduation less so. I don't know that he committed
suicide, but it's likely. Maybe it would have been better to have
never known him. He was interesting from the viewpoint that
philosophy consumed his life. Philosophers argue. He argued,
constantly, debating you. Maybe you're. Maybe he wasn't worth
knowing.
Don Stockbauer
"God gave me a tail to keep off flies, but I would sooner have no tail
and no flies."
Benjamin the Donkey, "Animal Farm", George Orwell
Tian
Some when we see them coming, and some when we see them going." Seems to
me if he wasn't worth knowing he wouldn't have rated a mention here.
>
> "God gave me a tail to keep off flies, but I would sooner have no tail
> and no flies."
>
> Benjamin the Donkey, "Animal Farm", George Orwell
Does that mean that tails and flies coevolved?
Don Stockbauer
He was another one that fit the category of "once kept in touch, then
quit". I've always sort of felt that if someone totally drops
communication with you they might as well be dead. If there's no
communication, then they could die and I'd never know it. What's
wrong with that is that as long as they're alive they share this human
gas we all form and there 's always some chance of some sort of
interaction, just like 2 gas molecules colliding in a container.
>
> > "God gave me a tail to keep off flies, but I would sooner have no tail
> > and no flies."
>
> > Benjamin the Donkey, "Animal Farm", George Orwell
>
> Does that mean that tails and flies coevolved?
I guess so. Maybe there's a planet of the tailless donkeys somewhere
in the galaxy, where the planet lacks flies.
Tian
I remember figuring out sometime in '93ish that I had probably sold
my sticker to at least one person who had since died. That kind of
number only goes up. I don't keep track of my customers, so who knows?
>
>>> "God gave me a tail to keep off flies, but I would sooner have no tail
>>> and no flies."
>>> Benjamin the Donkey, "Animal Farm", George Orwell
>> Does that mean that tails and flies coevolved?
>
> I guess so. Maybe there's a planet of the tailless donkeys somewhere
> in the galaxy, where the planet lacks flies.
I saw this George Carlin obit. There was mention that when asked his
religion he said he was a frisbeetarian and defined that as "someone
who believes that when they die their soul gets stuck on the roof like
a Frisbee."
--
Tian
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I still have about 147 "POWER TO THE PEOPLE - McKinney 2008" stickers.
October's First Friday in San Jose: I showed Melanie an Alaska quarter.
Don Stockbauer
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