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Don Stockbauer

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Feb 17, 2019, 7:25:35 AM2/17/19

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here we go again.

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 18, 2019, 7:52:33 AM2/18/19

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Are there any true physical infinities? I think so. language and dialogue.

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 23, 2019, 8:06:21 AM2/23/19

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Don't you get tired of everything being a game?

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 25, 2019, 8:25:37 AM2/25/19

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Is there anything I could say here which hasn't been said before?

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 27, 2019, 7:45:03 AM2/27/19

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And you ride yourselves over the fields,
and you make all your animal deals,
and your wise men don't know how it feels,
to be thick,
as a brick.

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 27, 2019, 11:12:40 AM2/27/19

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Aren't you disturbed that all your interactions with other humans have the form of games?

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 27, 2019, 11:13:50 AM2/27/19

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When you write to a college or university professor, how can you tell if your message has gone to a grad student?

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 27, 2019, 12:26:49 PM2/27/19

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What was that that Hofstadter said about someone who always cooperates in the single iteration Prisoner's Dilemma?

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 28, 2019, 8:37:08 AM2/28/19

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Could someone please send me a new copy of Godel, Escher, Bach? My copy has fallen apart from use. His other books are still in pretty good shape.

Don Stockbauer

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Feb 28, 2019, 11:48:21 PM2/28/19

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isn't it true that if everybody communicated with everybody all the time the result would be White Noise so that nobody would transfer any information to anyone , so perhaps that's the reason why so many people don't communicate with each other?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 1, 2019, 8:40:47 AM3/1/19

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I wonder if AI will ever come up with an algorithm to decide when you send someone a message whether they will answer or not?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 2, 2019, 7:55:57 AM3/2/19

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Perhaps World War III is no longer possible , perhaps it would be like a well-adjusted person stabbing themself in the hand with a knife.

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 3, 2019, 8:24:31 AM3/3/19

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In reference to the previous post, remember that Hofstadter loves analogies.

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 4, 2019, 3:47:54 PM3/4/19

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I wonder if AIs will always remain the tools of humans, or will they someday form a society of their own?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 6, 2019, 8:37:12 AM3/6/19

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What if everyone on Earth were at the level of Hofstadter?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 8, 2019, 1:01:54 PM3/8/19

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Then I was inspired,
now I'm sad and tired.

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 9, 2019, 9:56:42 AM3/9/19

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Don't you get the feeling that everything posted here in alt.fan.hofstadter has been extremely simplistic?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 9, 2019, 6:52:42 PM3/9/19

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So Chelsea; does Mandy still talk about our wild cattle?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 11, 2019, 8:34:43 AM3/11/19

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How many statements could be instantiated here?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 12, 2019, 4:08:38 PM3/12/19

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If you had your choice would you choose determinism or free will?

Don Stockbauer

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Mar 16, 2019, 7:41:10 AM3/16/19

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Do you ever feel like people are missing out if they refuse to communicate with you?

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Don Stockbauer

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Mar 19, 2019, 8:46:59 AM3/19/19

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Isn't it weird that if the globalbrain theory is true then earth is undergoing fantastic advancements but the people aren't fully appreciative of it?

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Don Stockbauer

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Mar 31, 2019, 7:39:23 AM3/31/19

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Isn't life simply wonderful?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 1, 2019, 7:38:52 AM4/1/19

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You have everything to lose, and nothing to gain.

- Anti-Pascal

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 2, 2019, 9:19:19 PM4/2/19

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Nobody knows where you are,
How near or how far,
Shine on you crazy diamond.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 7, 2019, 8:15:41 AM4/7/19

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Could it be that the most powerful and extensive AI is formed from all the people and communicating machines on Earth being self-organized into a neural network?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 7, 2019, 8:24:13 AM4/7/19

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No, a bigger AI is nguyen AIs around the galaxy
self-organize into a galactic AI.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 8, 2019, 1:34:20 PM4/8/19

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How is it possible that the Earth could become a single united entity?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 8, 2019, 9:38:15 PM4/8/19

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My sister told me one thing I'll never forget . She said Don, there are a lot of really messed up people on this planet. As you go through life you're going to get involved with every last one of them.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 9, 2019, 12:00:42 AM4/9/19

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Is science really nothing more than elaborate trial and error?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 12, 2019, 10:32:10 AM4/12/19

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All it takes is one unfortunate incident to lose a friend forever. Or maybe they really weren't a friend.

"If you love someone let them go,
Blah blah blah blah blah. "

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 13, 2019, 7:58:26 PM4/13/19

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Why is there anything at all?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 14, 2019, 9:23:34 AM4/14/19

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If classified material were completely boring would you bother to read it?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 19, 2019, 12:46:07 AM4/19/19

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And fate is setting up the chessboard while death rolls out the dice.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 19, 2019, 7:49:29 PM4/19/19

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Anyone for tennis? Wouldn't that be nice?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 20, 2019, 8:45:51 AM4/20/19

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Another day, another dollar.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 20, 2019, 8:47:39 AM4/20/19

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You don't answer my message, I don't answer your message.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 20, 2019, 9:10:03 AM4/20/19

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What is cybernetic wobble?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 20, 2019, 3:47:25 PM4/20/19

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Did you know that Leonardo da Vinci didn't expect humanity to survive much beyond his own deaths?
George Carlin felt the same way.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 21, 2019, 10:19:52 AM4/21/19

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That should be his own death. I'd go back and correct it but I don't know how.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 21, 2019, 10:20:45 AM4/21/19

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cs/deaths/death/*

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 22, 2019, 7:29:05 AM4/22/19

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I didn't hijack this group .everybody else who has ever posted to it except in the early days didn't care about Hofstadter and they were just here to yak so I'm the only one left and as per all of civilization people don't particularly care to talk anymore it gets them in trouble And not talking is a punishment people use against one another but then again if everybody answered every message they received the system would go to white noise and nobody could get any communication done at all which actually might be a good thing.

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Don Stockbauer

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Apr 24, 2019, 1:38:46 AM4/24/19

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Why not do something that will be of lasting benefit to humanity through the ages.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 24, 2019, 9:18:33 PM4/24/19

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The previous post was inspired by a picture on Facebook where someone had made a sand sculpture of the last supper right by the ocean.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 25, 2019, 6:40:35 PM4/25/19

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Sickness will surely take the mind where minds don't usually go.
Come on the Amazing Journey, and learn all you should know.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 26, 2019, 1:50:32 AM4/26/19

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Listening to you I get the music
Gazing at you I get the heat
Following you I climb the mountain
I get excitement at your feet

Right behind you I see the millions
On you I see the glory
From you I get opinions
From you I get the story

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 26, 2019, 1:51:45 AM4/26/19

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Fantastic insight into the true nature of reality is isomorphic to insanity.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 26, 2019, 5:41:37 PM4/26/19

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Do you think that the Technological Singularity will be prevented by the Global Brain?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 28, 2019, 2:35:09 PM4/28/19

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You've heard Carly Simon's song "You're So Vain"? It was about me.

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 29, 2019, 10:39:03 AM4/29/19

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Do you think that people who think they're seeing the technological singularity forming are really just seeing the global brain?

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 29, 2019, 10:41:20 AM4/29/19

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I've heard this comment made in technological singularity forums: "Do you think that the technological singularity might not form at all?"

Don Stockbauer

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Apr 29, 2019, 11:03:47 AM4/29/19

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If the technological singularity weren't such a new concept perhaps it should've been included in Mckay's classic "Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds."

Don Stockbauer

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May 2, 2019, 8:14:03 AM5/2/19

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Boy, we're going to have some powerful tools in the future.

Don Stockbauer

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May 2, 2019, 3:56:38 PM5/2/19

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Dream on,
Dream on,
Dream on,
Dream until your dreams come true.

Don Stockbauer

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May 2, 2019, 4:18:45 PM5/2/19

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Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care,
Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care,
Jimmy cracked corn and I don't care.

What kind of sorry ass attitude is that?

Don Stockbauer

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May 2, 2019, 7:16:24 PM5/2/19

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How many possible two person relationships are there across the entire globe? Assuming there are 7 billion people on Earth you have to form the 7,000,000,000th triangular number, which is closely given by 7,000,000,000 squared divided by 2, or 24.5 quadrillion.
But what if you want to limit it to just heterosexual couples? Then you need the 3.5 billionth triangular number, 3,500,000,000 squared divided by 2 , or 6.125 quadrillion.

Don Stockbauer

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May 3, 2019, 9:38:29 AM5/3/19

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Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup. They slither while they pass, they make their way across the Universe.

CETI?

Don Stockbauer

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May 4, 2019, 8:02:04 AM5/4/19

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Is the Earth on autopilot now?

Don Stockbauer

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May 4, 2019, 8:20:53 PM5/4/19

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If you choose not to decide
you still have made a choice.

Don Stockbauer

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May 5, 2019, 11:34:38 AM5/5/19

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Do you think our civilization is in a state of stable equilibrium, or a state of non-equilibrium?

Don Stockbauer

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May 5, 2019, 4:10:11 PM5/5/19

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That should read a state of unstable equilibrium.

Don Stockbauer

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May 7, 2019, 8:55:53 PM5/7/19

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if the human population on earth is 7 billion then the total number of possible two person relationships is equal to the 7 billionth triangular number which is equal to 24.5 quadrillion. the number of female-female couples is equal to the 3.5 billionth triangular number which is 6.125 quadrillion. The number of male-male couples is the same as female-female, 6.125 quadrillion. So how many heterosexual couples are there ? that's equal to the total number of all relationships minus female-female and male-male relationships which is equal to 12.25 quadrillion . so when you break up with someone you can tell them there's a lot of other people to take up with , but it's not in the quadrillions though for one person . the possible number of other relationships is 7 billion minus 2. so when that person fades into the sunset you can holler at them that there's 7,000,000,000 - 2 people just waiting to take your place , just like they tell you on the job there's hundreds of people waiting to take your place if you act up here.

Don Stockbauer

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May 10, 2019, 6:45:50 PM5/10/19

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God, almost everybody has a cell phone nowadays ; that must mean the number of neurons and synapses are really high.

Don Stockbauer

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May 11, 2019, 10:26:05 AM5/11/19

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Or is that is really high?

Don Stockbauer

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May 11, 2019, 10:21:37 PM5/11/19

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Isn't it odd that concepts such as cybernetic socialism and the global brain can take over the population without the individuals even knowing about it?

Don Stockbauer

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May 12, 2019, 7:58:22 AM5/12/19

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I'd love to change the world.
But I don't know what to do.
So I leave it up to you.

Ten Years After.

September 11, 2011.

Don Stockbauer

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May 12, 2019, 8:13:49 PM5/12/19

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Isn't it embarrassing when you take your dog to a public park and he insists on stopping often in order to smell every little thing there and then he insists on taking a piss every five seconds?

Don Stockbauer

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May 12, 2019, 10:07:28 PM5/12/19

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You can figure the number of heterosexual couples directly by it being the square of 3.5 billion as opposed to forming the total number of relationships and then subtracting off the same-sex couples.