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John Bartley I solved my XP problems w/ Service Pack Linux

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Nov 25, 2002, 10:38:55 AM11/25/02
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Dear Mrs. Heinlein:

Please contact your agent regarding the multiple USENET postings of
your husband's copyrighted work by this one offender. Details of the
postings follow below, and more details will be sent tomorrow once I
can download them.

A prompt response to the ISP is essential to assure the posting is
removed from the USENET newsgroup before it has a chance to spread to
more servers and be downloaded by more users.

Thank you.

--

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Subject: Reformatted: Robert A. Heinlein -- The Long Watch (SS HTML
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Cato

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Nov 25, 2002, 9:18:30 PM11/25/02
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Haven't you heard that nobody loves a tattletale?

johnb...@email.com (John Bartley I solved my XP problems w/ Service Pack Linux) wrote in message news:<f90c7f43.02112...@posting.google.com>...

Astyanax12

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:38:52 AM11/26/02
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Instead of doing what you suggested, I sent a copy of your post to my attorney.
He will notify the proper athorities.

Thank you for your post.

Ginny
Virginia Heinlein
Astya...@aol.com

Astyanax12

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:53:47 AM11/26/02
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That "tattle-tale" business is childish nonsense, and I very much appreciate
Mr. Bartley's act in notifying me.

As for you, the less said the better!

Virginia Heinlein
Astya...@aol.com

Dehede011

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Nov 26, 2002, 11:57:40 AM11/26/02
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Yes, as every decent person knows tattling is criminal but theft of property is
laudatory. That sounds like the criminal class I used to observe on the south
side of St. Louis, Mo. Frankly I am disappointed in hearing that sentiment on
this list -- I thought we were better than to object to someone letting a
person know their property was being stolen.
Dehede

pixelmeow

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Nov 26, 2002, 12:14:39 PM11/26/02
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On 26 Nov 2002 13:53:47 GMT, in alt.fan.heinlein, astya...@aol.com
(Astyanax12) scribbled:

>That "tattle-tale" business is childish nonsense, and I very much appreciate
>Mr. Bartley's act in notifying me.
>
>As for you, the less said the better!

KEYBOARD!!!!!

You go, Ginny!!!

--
~teresa~

^..^ "Never try to outstubborn a cat." Robert A. Heinlein ^..^
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pixel dot meow at verizon dot net

Bob

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Nov 26, 2002, 12:28:51 PM11/26/02
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Cato wrote:

> Haven't you heard that nobody loves a tattletale?
>
>

But a thief is far worse.
Bob

pixelmeow

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Nov 26, 2002, 12:27:34 PM11/26/02
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On 26 Nov 2002 16:57:40 GMT, in alt.fan.heinlein, dehe...@aol.com
(Dehede011) scribbled:

That was the crybaby talking. Just ignore it. He's not worth your
time.

John Bartley I solved my XP problems w/ Service Pack Linux

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Nov 26, 2002, 1:03:24 PM11/26/02
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And, if a thief dies in the night, whose hand is on the bow?

not_a_pa...@yahoo.com (Cato) wrote in message news:<8e5b6c2b.0211...@posting.google.com>...

Cato

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Nov 26, 2002, 3:29:17 PM11/26/02
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astya...@aol.com (Astyanax12) wrote in message news:<20021126085347...@mb-me.aol.com>...

> That "tattle-tale" business is childish nonsense, and I very much appreciate
> Mr. Bartley's act in notifying me.

Well, that's what my mother told me when I was a little kid (no one
likes a tattle tale), and I try to keep it in mind.....

> As for you, the less said the better!


Good luck on that! I often try to hold my tongue, but seldom have much
luck. Well, anyway, my comment was somewhat of a joke...

> Virginia Heinlein
> Astya...@aol.com

Eric S. Harris

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Nov 26, 2002, 3:34:43 PM11/26/02
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Cato wrote:
>
> Haven't you heard that nobody loves a tattletale?

Nonsense.

I love ya, Mr. Barley!

An' I ain't alone. -Eric S.

John M. Atkinson

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Nov 26, 2002, 9:18:18 PM11/26/02
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On 26 Nov 2002 12:29:17 -0800, not_a_pa...@yahoo.com (Cato)
wrote:

>astya...@aol.com (Astyanax12) wrote in message news:<20021126085347...@mb-me.aol.com>...
>> That "tattle-tale" business is childish nonsense, and I very much appreciate
>> Mr. Bartley's act in notifying me.
>
>Well, that's what my mother told me when I was a little kid (no one
>likes a tattle tale), and I try to keep it in mind.....

No one likes a cop--until it's your house getting robbed.

There is a difference between a child reporting that "Bobby said a bad
word" and an adult reporting felonious behavior.

--
John M. Atkinson
CPL (P), USA

It was not a Duke nor Earl, nor yet a Viscount --
It was not a big brass General that came;
But a man in khaki kit who could handle men a bit,
With his bedding labelled Sergeant Whatisname.
--Rudyard Kipling

Cato

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Nov 26, 2002, 7:57:16 PM11/26/02
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dehe...@aol.com (Dehede011) wrote in message news:<20021126115740...@mb-bk.aol.com>...

Wow, that kind of talk takes me back a ways....to those lazy pre-Civil
Wars o the old South, sitting on the veranda, sipping lemondade,
listening to the decent lady folk of the township gossip and shoo away
the flies....

Cato

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:04:41 PM11/26/02
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Bob <chil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<3DE3AF53...@ix.netcom.com>...

But is a thief worse than an unfair law that is neither desired by the
citzenry nor reflective of the culture?

I refer to the Sonny Bono Copyright extension act, wherein copyright
for existing works of art was extended from 50 years to 75 yrs. And
what was the possible rationale for this? Bribes from the Massa to the
elected officials so that Massa might be able to keep Massa's
intellectual property from the common folk a bit longer....mayhap?

Well, this Bono copyright act is headed for the Supreme Ct (SCOTUS),
thanks to Lawrence Lessig et al.

maybe if we can get the SCOTUS to revoke Bono on constitutional
grounds, we can all go on a posting party and post on Usenet all of
RAH's works from the time period previous to 1952....will you join
me??

Cato

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Nov 26, 2002, 8:05:21 PM11/26/02
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johnb...@email.com (John Bartley I solved my XP problems w/ Service Pack Linux) wrote in message news:<f90c7f43.02112...@posting.google.com>...
> And, if a thief dies in the night, whose hand is on the bow?
>

yours?

David Wright

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Nov 26, 2002, 10:33:58 PM11/26/02
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Cato <not_a_pa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8e5b6c2b.02112...@posting.google.com...

> astya...@aol.com (Astyanax12) wrote in message
news:<20021126085347...@mb-me.aol.com>...

(snip)

> Good luck on that! I often try to hold my tongue, but seldom have much
> luck. Well, anyway, my comment was somewhat of a joke...

Hold your tongue, Hah! I've never seen any evidence of that from you.

You Sir, are a joke, in as bad taste as all your other 'jokes', but we
aren't laughing.

Why don't you crawl back into your icebox!

Plonk!

David Wright


cryofan

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Nov 26, 2002, 10:47:59 PM11/26/02
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Umm. Dave? You plonked me before earlier this year:


>>>>>>>>
"Randy" <cry...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:f10ucu02g0990snui...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:28:15 -0400, "David Wright"

(snip)

>
> Umm. how about this: when he got to be a Real Famous Writer, he got
> to thinking, "Gee, my shit don't stink!" And that sort of thinking
> inlfuenced his books.

Well, as I expected, you don't really have anything to say worth
listening
to.

Plonk!
??? ??? ?????

>David Wright
>
>>>>>>>

Well, David? Care to explain your behavior?


Mac

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Nov 26, 2002, 10:41:27 PM11/26/02
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Not funny, Cryo-.
You will probably claim you were making a joke.
And then follow through with one of your tirades about the
copyright extension.
Frankly, I appreciate the effort of Mr. Bartley...
---Mac
*********************************************
On 25 Nov 2002 18:18:30 -0800, not_a_pa...@yahoo.com (Cato)
wrote:

>Haven't you heard that nobody loves a tattletale?
************************************************

djinn

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Nov 26, 2002, 11:14:48 PM11/26/02
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cryofan <cry...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in
news:cuf8uuo9e987i4evb...@4ax.com:

snip


>
> Umm. Dave? You plonked me before earlier this year:
>

snip


>
> Well, David? Care to explain your behavior?
>
>
>

Apparently every time his plonk file expires, he puts you back in. Having
entries in the file expire keeps the file from growing forever, and allows
for posters who change their habits. You're apparently consistent enough
that David keeps returning you to the file.

Robert Oxley

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Nov 27, 2002, 6:07:33 AM11/27/02
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"djinn" <qinji...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92D2CDB...@68.6.19.6...

As I also just did, also once again.

Bob


bookman

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Nov 28, 2002, 2:19:23 AM11/28/02
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<Top posting> (Posted and e-mailed)

Will your lawyer notify Google.com, so as to prevent archiving?

Rusty the bookman
(8:30am to 1:00am is no way to travel - I'm dead tired!)

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Eric S. Harris

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Nov 28, 2002, 5:58:42 AM11/28/02
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Been thinking of upgrading my browser from Netscape 4.xx. I'd like to stay with
something that has e-mail and browser integrated, ideally the latest Netscape,
if it's stable and upgrades nicely from 4.xx.

Does it have any nice features, like newsgroup twit filters that will hide
messages from selected clueless and/or rude individuals? (Netscape 4.xx may
have such a feature, but a cursory search or two didn't reveal it.) -Eric S.

Jamie Hart

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Nov 28, 2002, 6:31:21 AM11/28/02
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"bookman" <Thebo...@kc.rr.NULL.com> wrote in message
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> <Top posting> (Posted and e-mailed)
>
> Will your lawyer notify Google.com, so as to prevent archiving?

No Need, Google doesn't archive the Binary groups.

Bill Reich

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Nov 28, 2002, 9:58:01 AM11/28/02
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not_a_pa...@yahoo.com (Cato) wrote in message news:<8e5b6c2b.02112...@posting.google.com>...

> astya...@aol.com (Astyanax12) wrote in message news:<20021126085347...@mb-me.aol.com>...
> > That "tattle-tale" business is childish nonsense, and I very much appreciate
> > Mr. Bartley's act in notifying me.
>
> Well, that's what my mother told me when I was a little kid (no one
> likes a tattle tale), and I try to keep it in mind.....
>
Among small children with non-serious issues at stake, that's a useful
attitude to foster. It allows a busy parent to be spared the "He
touched my dolly" etc.

>
> > As for you, the less said the better!
>
>
> Good luck on that! I often try to hold my tongue, but seldom have much
> luck. Well, anyway, my comment was somewhat of a joke...
>
I have to admit that I thought so when I read it. However, it was far
from clear.


--
Will in New Haven

David M. Silver

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Nov 28, 2002, 10:44:12 AM11/28/02
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"Eric S. Harris" wrote:

There are some problems with the new Netscape 7.0 beta; however, many are using it. See,
snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.netscape7.macintosh and I think there's another (or several) for
users of other platforms. The problems is it's "unsupported."

I've given up and gone back to Netscape 4.76. Maybe I'll take another shot someday when I have the
leisure. :-(

David

Ogden Johnson III

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Nov 28, 2002, 11:01:45 AM11/28/02
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*"Eric S. Harris" <eric_ha...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Been thinking of upgrading my browser from Netscape 4.xx. I'd like to stay with
>something that has e-mail and browser integrated, ideally the latest Netscape,
>if it's stable and upgrades nicely from 4.xx.
>
>Does it have any nice features, like newsgroup twit filters that will hide
>messages from selected clueless and/or rude individuals? (Netscape 4.xx may
>have such a feature, but a cursory search or two didn't reveal it.) -Eric S.

FWIW, the newbie questions in the Agent newsgroup are roughly [there
are a few from elsewhere] evenly split between people moving to Agent
from Outlook Express and people moving to Agent from one flavor of
Netscape or another.

I have tried Netscape. I have never tried Netscape's Mail or News
features, and wouldn't; just as I ditched OE just as soon as I could
get Agent and Eudora up and running. People who do web browsers as
their primary effort tend to pay little attention to their mail
feature, and even less to their news feature, assuming they have
either.

OJ III

David Wright

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Nov 28, 2002, 11:19:59 AM11/28/02
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David M. Silver <ag.pl...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3DE639F3...@verizon.net...
>
>

(snip)

> There are some problems with the new Netscape 7.0 beta; however, many are
using it. See,
> snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.netscape7.macintosh and I think
there's another (or several) for
> users of other platforms. The problems is it's "unsupported."
>
> I've given up and gone back to Netscape 4.76. Maybe I'll take another shot
someday when I have the
> leisure. :-(
>

David (the younger)

I have both 4.76 and 7.0 on my system, but rarely use 7.0 and don't really
have a feel for any new features. One thing I definitely don't like is tha
the AIM with it apparently cannot create a shortcut to a chat room the way
4.76 can. That makes it definitely unfriendly for our Heinlein Reader
Discussion Groups chats.

David (the elder) Wright


djinn

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Nov 28, 2002, 12:59:04 PM11/28/02
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"Eric S. Harris" <eric_ha...@mindspring.com> wrote in
news:3DE5F6E2...@mindspring.com:

snip

> Been thinking of upgrading my browser from Netscape 4.xx. I'd like to
> stay with something that has e-mail and browser integrated, ideally
> the latest Netscape, if it's stable and upgrades nicely from 4.xx.
>
> Does it have any nice features, like newsgroup twit filters that will
> hide messages from selected clueless and/or rude individuals?
> (Netscape 4.xx may have such a feature, but a cursory search or two
> didn't reveal it.) -Eric S.

The new Opera browser is supposed to have news filters, etc. I haven't
tried them personally, but its a free download. In fact, if you download
without the Java and try out the news and mail first, its a small download.

David M. Silver

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Nov 28, 2002, 1:55:34 PM11/28/02
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David Wright wrote:

Agreed. I ignore the built-in AIM in Netscape (and haven't bothered to figure
out how to yank it out by the roots yet) and simply use the stand-alone latest
verion I downloaded.

David (the Forever "Yonge" -- as I've learned is how it's spelled in Toronto,
at least that's the name of one of their main drags)

bookman

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Nov 28, 2002, 12:39:02 PM11/28/02
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"Jamie Hart" <theodor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:as4uqb$o2k21$1...@ID-137266.news.dfncis.de...

>
> "bookman" <Thebo...@kc.rr.NULL.com> wrote in message
> news:%rjF9.1101$Xr6....@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > <Top posting> (Posted and e-mailed)
> >
> > Will your lawyer notify Google.com, so as to prevent archiving?
>
> No Need, Google doesn't archive the Binary groups.

Thanks, I missed that it was a .binaries group. Good catch.

Oliver Gampe

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Nov 28, 2002, 3:02:00 PM11/28/02
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djinn wrote...
(in <Xns92D465C...@68.6.19.6>)

> The new Opera browser is supposed to have news filters, etc. I
> haven't tried them personally, but its a free download. In fact, if
> you download without the Java and try out the news and mail first,
> its a small download.

I'm using Opera as my browser of choice for quite some time now, but
the mail and news part of it stinks. Mail might be... acceptable, if
you don't expect too much, but the integrated newsreader is nearly
useless. (At least in Opera 6.x, I don't know how much they changed
for the 7.x versions).

Opera is IMO the best browser there is at the moment, but that's it.
Just a browser.

--
Regards
Oliver

Today's Teaser:
I'd love to, but I have to stay home and see if I snore.

greymaus

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Nov 28, 2002, 3:17:24 PM11/28/02
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In article <3DE5F6E2...@mindspring.com>, Eric S. Harris wrote:
> Cato wrote:
>>
>> dehe...@aol.com (Dehede011) wrote in message news:<20021126115740...@mb-bk.aol.com>...
>> > Yes, as every decent person knows tattling is criminal but theft of property is
>> > laudatory. That sounds like the criminal class I used to observe on the south
>> > side of St. Louis, Mo. Frankly I am disappointed in hearing that sentiment on
>> > this list -- I thought we were better than to object to someone letting a
>> > person know their property was being stolen.
>> > Dehede
>>
>> Wow, that kind of talk takes me back a ways....to those lazy pre-Civil
>> Wars o the old South, sitting on the veranda, sipping lemondade,
>> listening to the decent lady folk of the township gossip and shoo away
>> the flies....
>
> Been thinking of upgrading my browser from Netscape 4.xx. I'd like to stay with
> something that has e-mail and browser integrated, ideally the latest Netscape,
> if it's stable and upgrades nicely from 4.xx.

Opera

Better to get a mail client that downloads mail automatically when you
connect.

Consider Lynx.

--
greymaus;
Follow up, don't e-mail, my killfile is savage;

Tony

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Nov 28, 2002, 6:33:26 PM11/28/02
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Has anyone looked at the new Mozilla browser builds? Mozilla is the
basis for Netscape 6.x/7.x minus the corporate BS added by Netscape for
the AOL side of things. NS7 is based on Moz 1.0.1 code. Mozilla is using
a branching philosophy in their releases. The 1.0.x releases are bug
fixes and 1.x are feature releases, as I understand it. 1.0.1 and 1.1
are both considered stable releases. Bugzilla is their bug tracking and
fixing mechanism. Some of the features like twit filters will be in the
next release 1.3 (1.3 alpha is out now).

For more info on things, goto http://www.mozilla.org Try the 1.1
release which is what I am using now.


Jason Steiner

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Nov 28, 2002, 10:55:10 PM11/28/02
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Tony <acvickers1...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> Has anyone looked at the new Mozilla browser builds? Mozilla is the
> basis for Netscape 6.x/7.x minus the corporate BS added by Netscape for
> the AOL side of things. NS7 is based on Moz 1.0.1 code.

Better yet, use Phoenix. It's also based on Mozilla, but has even
more stuff ripped out, in order to create the smallest and most
efficient browser possible. It's only up to version 0.4 at the moment,
but it's already replaced IE on my desktop.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/phoenix-release-notes.html

jason


--
"Listen, my boy, I can't abide children. I know it's the style nowadays to
make a terrible fuss over you - but I don't go for it. As far as I'm concerned,
they're no good for anything but screaming, torturing people, breaking things,
smearing books with jam and tearing the pages." - The Neverending Story

Michael Hagen

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Nov 29, 2002, 12:44:16 PM11/29/02
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In article <ueo6sa....@shell.gaydeceiver.com>, ja...@gaydeceiver.com
says...

> Tony <acvickers1...@juno.com> wrote:
> > >
> > Has anyone looked at the new Mozilla browser builds? Mozilla is the
> > basis for Netscape 6.x/7.x minus the corporate BS added by Netscape for
> > the AOL side of things. NS7 is based on Moz 1.0.1 code.
>
> Better yet, use Phoenix. It's also based on Mozilla, but has even
> more stuff ripped out, in order to create the smallest and most
> efficient browser possible. It's only up to version 0.4 at the moment,
> but it's already replaced IE on my desktop.
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/phoenix-release-notes.html
>
> jason
>
>
>
The Mozilla builds 1.0+ are pretty good, but not for the newbie. I've
had great stability for months - that's dozens of uploads - but the last
few messed my system up good. Unfortunately, the 1.2b and higher
versions were the ones with the experimental news filters. This requires
me to run Outlook as a backup and permanent email archive. I don't care
for OE at all, so I use Gravity as the newsreader when Moz is down.

There's Beonex too - a stable version of Mozilla. it's always a good
three months behind the Moz builds though.

Ward Griffiths

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Dec 4, 2002, 8:54:36 AM12/4/02
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Cato wrote:

His own. Somebody who chooses to agress against somebody else's property or
person has chosen a complicated method of suicide. Of course, in these
days in most of the US, the defender of property or person will be more
likely to do hard time than the thief if he lives (it's guaranteed that
will happen in the UK and probably most of the Commonwealth).

The original Shoshone saying: "A thief is shot in the night. Whose hand is
on the bow?" It _ain't_ a Zen question.
--
Ward Griffiths wdg...@comcast.net

The State too often is like a driver who hits a pedestrian, gets out of
his car and says to the victim, "It's lucky for you I was here to help."
Alan Turin

Philip Brown

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Dec 4, 2002, 5:54:17 PM12/4/02
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 08:54:36 -0500, Ward Griffiths
<wdg...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Cato wrote:
>
>> johnb...@email.com (John Bartley I solved my XP problems w/ Service
>> Pack Linux) wrote in message
>> news:<f90c7f43.02112...@posting.google.com>...
>>> And, if a thief dies in the night, whose hand is on the bow?
>>>
>>
>> yours?
>
>His own. Somebody who chooses to agress against somebody else's property or
>person has chosen a complicated method of suicide. Of course, in these
>days in most of the US, the defender of property or person will be more
>likely to do hard time than the thief if he lives (it's guaranteed that
>will happen in the UK and probably most of the Commonwealth).

I'm all for the right of home defence, but if you're thinking of the
Tony Martin case, he makes a pretty unpleasant martyr for the cause...
the burglar was a lowlife I won't weep for, but it's quite possible
that someone other than Martin might have got off a lot more lightly -
by not telling the police about fantasies of machine-gunning gypsies,
for instance...

Philip Brown

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This just in: an inquest jury in Spalding, Lincolnshire, has brought
in a verdict of "lawful killing" for a 58-year-old man who stabbed a
knife-wielding 30-year-old burglar to death.

We can get it right.

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