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SS10301

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Nov 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/3/97
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This is the first time I've seen this show. I about laughed out loud at
McGarrett's amusement at the hippie commune, especially when the girl replaced
her lawyer with the guitar picker. It was priceless. Another great scene was
when Danno disembarked the ship at the dock, walked up to McGarrett, who was
wearing this wild Hawaiian print, and said, "That shirt's blinding me." This
was a great show with a good cast. One oddity: it seems to me that I saw
"Duke" in another part as a police lieutenant. Did this happen often...did
the characters shift to other characters as the seasons passed? I know the
"bad guys" were often recycled, but I wasn't aware of the "good guys" doing
it. Also, McGarrett looked older in this show than he does in later episodes.
Anyone else think that?
ko...@hawaiifive0.org

Heather Henderson

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Nov 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/3/97
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In article <19971104035...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, bl...@aol.com
(Blurb) wrote:

> Full fathom five is thirty feet (a fathom is six feet). Writers
> frequently use Shakespeare for titles. Something Wicked This Way Comes,
> Ray Bradbury's s-f classic, gets its title from a scene in Macbeth, where
> one of the three weird sisters (the witches) says, "By the pricking of my
> thumbs, something wicked this way comes." The title of the Star Trek
> episode All Our Yesterdays is from Shakespeare: "Tomorrow and tomorrow and
> tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of
> recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty
> death. . . " The Bard is fertile ground.

And pray, remember Five-0's own "Pray Love Remember", from Ophelia's lines
in Hamlet, Act IV, scene v: "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance;
pray, love, remember; and there is pansies, that's for thoughts."
Steve McGarrett himself plays the Dane (for a delightful moment, anyway)
in "Odd Man In", when he holds the dummy's head in his hand and remarks
"A man of infinite jest". (It's actually "a fellow of infinite jest" -
someone along the way reworded it, maybe Barrymore.)

I've often thought that "All My Sins Remembered" would be a nice title
for a Five-0 episode.

Heather

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Blurb

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Nov 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/4/97
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In article <19971103042...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
imfci...@aol.com (IMFCinnamn) writes:

>"Full Fathom Five" is the title of a famous Jackson Pollack painting. It
>hangs in the Museum of Modern Art in New York (I saw it this summer on a
visit to
> the Big Apple and immediately thought of this episode :-)) The painting,
> however, is modern art, depicting nothing in particular and I just could not
> tie it to anything in the episode.
>
>Since Jack Lord is an art expert, do you think that he chose the title of
>this episode? I can't think of anyone else who would choose the name "Full
>Fathom Five" and the name is so unusual that it could not be an accident.

Nope, the writer usually chooses the title. This one comes from the basis
for the poem that Victor Reese (Kevin McCarthy) recites as the drum sinks
beneath the waves:

Full Fathom Five the widow lies,
And of her bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were her eyes;
Nothing of her now doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring her knell;
Hark! Now I hear them -- ding-dong, bell.

The real quotation is from Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act 1, Scene ii:

Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes;
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell:
Hark! Now I hear them -- ding-dong, bell.

Full fathom five is thirty feet (a fathom is six feet). Writers
frequently use Shakespeare for titles. Something Wicked This Way Comes,
Ray Bradbury's s-f classic, gets its title from a scene in Macbeth, where
one of the three weird sisters (the witches) says, "By the pricking of my
thumbs, something wicked this way comes." The title of the Star Trek
episode All Our Yesterdays is from Shakespeare: "Tomorrow and tomorrow and
tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of
recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty
death. . . " The Bard is fertile ground.

Karen Rhodes
Be here! Aloha!

Wmkoenig

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Nov 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/4/97
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Karen wrote:

>Full fathom five is thirty feet (a fathom is six feet). Writers
>frequently use Shakespeare for titles. Something Wicked This Way Comes,
>Ray Bradbury's s-f classic, gets its title from a scene in Macbeth, where
>one of the three weird sisters (the witches) says, "By the pricking of my
>thumbs, something wicked this way comes." The title of the Star Trek
>episode All Our Yesterdays is from Shakespeare: "Tomorrow and tomorrow and
>tomorrow creeps in this petty pace from day to day, to the last syllable of
>recorded time; and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty
>death. . . " The Bard is fertile ground.
>

If you watch much '60s television, characters frequently quote Shakespeare
or allude to the Bard. (i.e. "Don't play Uriah Heep on me.") Now, in the
'90s, characters quote or allude to ....other television characters.

Bill K.


SS10301

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Nov 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/4/97
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>characters quote or allude to ....other television characters.
>
>

I seem to recall a Magnum PI episode where Thomas refers to Hawaii Five-0....
ko...@hawaiifive0.org

Blurb

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Nov 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/7/97
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In article <19971103142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
ss1...@aol.com (SS10301) writes:

> Did this happen often...did
> the characters shift to other characters as the seasons passed? I know the
> "bad guys" were often recycled, but I wasn't aware of the "good guys" doing
> it.

Yup, they sure did. Al Harrington was a killer and a convict, among other
things, before becoming Ben Kokua. Moe Keale, a cast regular in the last
season, played a lot of roles, some villains, some not, in previous
seasons. Glenn Cannon had guest roles, some villains, some not, before
becoming John Manicote.

Heather Henderson

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Nov 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/7/97
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In article <19971108011...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, bl...@aol.com
(Blurb) wrote:

> In article <19971104043...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,


> wmko...@aol.com (Wmkoenig) writes:
>
> > If you watch much '60s television, characters frequently quote Shakespeare
> > or allude to the Bard. (i.e. "Don't play Uriah Heep on me.") Now, in the

> > '90s, characters quote or allude to ....other television characters.
>
> <sigh> How standards have fallen, eh?

Uriah Heep is from Dickens, not Shakespeare.

Blurb

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Nov 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/8/97
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> If you watch much '60s television, characters frequently quote Shakespeare
> or allude to the Bard. (i.e. "Don't play Uriah Heep on me.") Now, in the
> '90s, characters quote or allude to ....other television characters.

<sigh> How standards have fallen, eh?

Karen Rhodes
Be here! Aloha!

Fogarty

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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I have just watched "Full Fathom Five", again, and enjoyed it even more
than the first time.
A few nits.
1) McGarrett insists on using Joyce as bait, over Danny's objections, yet in
episode 6, "Twentyfour Carat Kill", he does a complete about face : "No
Dames!"
2) When Danny says "That's Joyce" (Not "That's Joyce Webber"), McGarett asks
if he knows her. It's obvious that he does, from his manner.

On the plus side:
1) I loved the conflict between Danny and McGarrett.
2) The way Danny doesn't QUITE slam the door to McGarrett's office.

How many times throughout the series do we see Danny sitting on tables and
desks, particularly McGarrett's?
Good heaven's, James MacArthur looked so YOUNG!

Teresa
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NHunter539

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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As I recall this was one of the first episodes. It seems that McGarrett was
not quite so "uptight" in these first few shows.
I think Danny continued sitting on whatever was available all through the
series. He always gave as good as he got with McGarrett. That's one of the
reasons, to me, he's a good character. Always had a mind of his own.
Nancy

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