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mike granieri

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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It's interesting that CBS would force McGarrett to wear suits to conceal
his shoulder holster and gun. The least they could have done then was
pay for a few more suits. We well into the sixth season on Family
Channel now and I doubt McGarrett has worn more than four different
suits in six seasons. There the omnipresent dark blue suit, a light
blue, a grey and a light brown. And that's about it.

On the other hand, we should probably be thankful to CBS. Without the
suit dictum, Lord probably would have had McGarrett wearing a lot more
of those hideous disco shirts cum garish scarf and foppish white hat. I
also remember one office scene where he was wearing a silly-looking
sweater with a rolled collar.

Speaking of suits, did anybody notice that dreadful rust number Wo Fat
wore in the opening of "FOB Honolulu"? I know those colors were
fashionable in the 70's but it looks pretty bad now. I must admit I had
more than a couple of suits in the 70's that I wouldn't be caught dead
in now and wouldn't admit to have worn then unless I was put under a lie
detector!

Mike G.

Fogarty

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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And what about that awful shiny brown number Danno seems to wear for most
of Season 3?

Teresa
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Steve99798 <steve...@aol.com> wrote in article
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> Mike G. wrote...
>
> "...Channel now and I doubt McGarrett has worn more than four different


suits
> in six seasons. There the omnipresent dark blue suit, a light blue, a
grey and

> a light brown. And that's about it...."
>
>
>

CMJ

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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McGarrett and Danno wear all different kinds of suits. Danno usually
wears that green suit, and McGarrett usually wears a different one in each
episode practically.

BTW, I think Jack Lord looks really cool in any color suit! IMO, he's
one of those people who look good in any color.


Joya Nappo
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IMFCinnamn

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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McGarrett seems to have four suits: dark blue, "light blue" (sort of medium
blue, tan and gray.

Danno seems to have two suits: brown and the olive green one he wore for most
of "The Flip Side is Death."


Beth A. Fox
"Will the impossible . . . Accept the inevitable."

mike granieri

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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And wasn't that green suit last night just hideous-looking? :)

In the early seasons it seemed like Chin was always wearing a shiny
looking suit. Could it have been sharkskin? That would have been in
fashion around that time.

Mike g.

NHunter539

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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Danno's suits always seem to be slightly ill-fitting to me. In the few times
you see him wear casual clothing he always looks much better to me.
McGarrett looks good in anything - even the goofy leisure suit that I guess
will be coming up in the later episodes.
Nancy

mike granieri

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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Zipquik wrote:
>
> >Danno seems to have two suits: brown and the olive green one he wore for
> >most
> > of "The Flip Side is Death."
> >
> >
>
> Whatever happened to that light colored one he used to wear ?
> I always thought that one looked nice. Someone mentioned that
> Kam Fong looked like he had lost weight in the most recently
> broadcast episodes. I noticed that too. But James MacArthur
> appears to have gained weight. Am I the only one who thinks so ?
>
> Carol S.

You're right Carol. I noticed Danno looking a bit bulky too. But I
didn't dare say anything for fear of reprisals from all the female Danno
fans. Thank god, one of the women said it first! :)

Mike G.


Zipquik

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Lisa McKenzie

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Fogarty <JimFo...@access.net.au> wrote in article
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> And what about that awful shiny brown number Danno seems to wear for most
> of Season 3?
>
> Teresa

Is it brown or is it some sick-looking green? My kids are quick to alert me
with "Ewww, Mommy, it's the green suit again!" ;)

Lisa Mc

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Fogarty

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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Greenish brown? Brownish green?
It's still a very cheap looking suit, and a revolting colour.
I much prefer the blue one, and there's a light coloured one (beige?) that
he sometimes wears, that looks VERY nice.

Teresa
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McGarret11

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>James MacArthur
>> appears to have gained weight. Am I the only one who thinks so ?
>>
>> Carol S.
>
>

Let's not leave out Jack Lord himself...in the first few seasons, he seems very
trim with a fairly thin waistline (maybe another reason why he took his suit
coat off frequently), whereas around the 7th or 8th season his waistline
definitely seems to have expanded somewhat....

Zipquik

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>You're right Carol. I noticed Danno looking a bit bulky too. But I
>didn't dare say anything for fear of reprisals from all the female Danno
>fans. Thank god, one of the women said it first! :)

Always have the courage of your convictions, Mike ! (just kidding). He's
still my favorite one on the show though. Maybe
he goes on the Kam Fong diet later on and drops a few pounds.

Fogarty

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Oct 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/10/97
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I saw James MacArthur on an episode of 'Murder She Wrote' called 'Hooray
for Homicide', made sometime in the 80's, and thought he looked decidedly
pudgy. I do hope it was only temporary!

Teresa
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Fogarty

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Actually, my favourite 'look' for Danno is:
Jacketless, shirt open at neck (with or without tie), sleeves rolled up
and gun at waist.
VERY nice!

Blurb

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In article <19971008190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
imfci...@aol.com (IMFCinnamn) writes:

>Danno seems to have two suits: brown and the olive green one he wore for
>most
> of "The Flip Side is Death.

In many of the later episodes, Danno wears this strange blue-plaid suit.
It's a very subtle plaid, large in pattern, but it's weird enough to have
caught my eye. I think Jim MacArthur might have been trying to upstage
Jack Lord a little bit. They were both stage-trained actors and very
knowledgeable in how to do little bits like that to steal the scene. heeheehee.

Karen Rhodes
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Inglewolf

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Oct 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/11/97
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I want to read comments about the clothes he'd wear in the last two seasons.
Leisure suits, wild ties, large button down shirts that no suit jacket could
complement, and of course those stupid hats and scarves.
Yeah, I'm a jeans and t-shirt guy who's probably better off keeping his fashion
opinions to himself, but I'm just curious what others think. See I think part
of the reason I rarely if ever watch the last two seasons is I always find a
lot of it ugly to look at, and it might be because the wardrobe in general for
everyone was so atrocious.
I can't think of any Five-0 foxes from the eleventh and twelvth seasons off the
top of my head; that's pretty bad. Barbara Luna looks like a fox in season
two; she doesn't in season twelve. And Lori Wilson herself I thought was
mostly doggish in appearance.
Like I always say, just a thought.

Inglewolf

Mr. Mike

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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On 11 Oct 1997 02:50:11 GMT, ingl...@aol.com (Inglewolf) wrote:

>See I think part
> of the reason I rarely if ever watch the last two seasons is I always find a
> lot of it ugly to look at, and it might be because the wardrobe in general for
> everyone was so atrocious.

What annoys me about the twelfth season is that McGarrett is always
going into this preachy pose when he confronts the criminals, saying
something like "For >>God's<< sake..." You can bet there won't be many
twelfth season shows on Family Channel!

>I can't think of any Five-0 foxes from the eleventh and twelvth seasons off the
> top of my head; that's pretty bad. Barbara Luna looks like a fox in season
> two; she doesn't in season twelve. And Lori Wilson herself I thought was
> mostly doggish in appearance.

I find Tricia O'Brien in Labyrinth and Pamela Shoup in School for
Assassins (both horrible episodes) quite interesting to look at...


Wmkoenig

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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>What annoys me about the twelfth season is that McGarrett is always
>going into this preachy pose when he confronts the criminals, saying
>something like "For >>God's<< sake..." You can bet there won't be many
>twelfth season shows on Family Channel!

In the early 1990s, there were 2 stations in Indianapolis that were running
Five-O. One only had shows from the 10th through 12th seasons, plus a few
two-part episodes re-edited into "movies." Anyway, for one of their promos,
they had a freeze-frame of the end of a 12th season show, with these words
superimposed: "Another Lecture from Steve McGarrett." Then, the clips began to
run. This particular station was a very low-rent operation but somebody's
sense of humor hit this nail on the head.

Bill K.


Blurb

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Oct 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/12/97
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In article <19971011025...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
ingl...@aol.com (Inglewolf) writes:

>Yeah, I'm a jeans and t-shirt guy who's probably better off keeping his

>fashion opinions to himself, but I'm just curious what others think. See


I think
>part of the reason I rarely if ever watch the last two seasons is I
always find a
> lot of it ugly to look at, and it might be because the wardrobe in general
>for everyone was so atrocious.

I can't stand that damned leisure suit! Worst thing ever devised by the
mind of man. It's kinda funny, but the last couple seasons LOOK more dated
than the earlier ones (if you discount the really skinny ties in the first
season or two).


Karen Rhodes
Be here! Aloha!

Blurb

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97
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In article <19971012050...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
wmko...@aol.com (Wmkoenig) writes:

>they had a freeze-frame of the end of a 12th season show, with these words
> superimposed: "Another Lecture from Steve McGarrett." Then, the clips began
>to
> run. This particular station was a very low-rent operation but somebody's
> sense of humor hit this nail on the head.

Alas. Another indication that the producers (and there were many) and
writers during that last gasp of the series didn't have the same grasp of
the characters and the series as a whole that the ones who served during
its heyday did. <sigh>

Andrew Paul Caruso

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Oct 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/13/97
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The green suit that danno wears appears to be olive drab or puke
green,perhaps the uglier the suit that danno would wear would only make
steve look better in his suit

HeyOp!
Andy Caruso
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Collin Freeman

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97
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Blurb wrote:

> I can't stand that damned leisure suit! Worst thing ever devised by the
> mind of man.

What makes you think a man designed them? I personally think a woman
was behind those hideous fashion trends, ties included. I mean, what
man would design a noose to wear around your neck 9 hours a day?

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mike granieri

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97
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Collin Freeman wrote:

> What makes you think a man designed them? I personally think a woman
> was behind those hideous fashion trends, ties included. I mean, what
> man would design a noose to wear around your neck 9 hours a day?
>

Taking Collin's logic one step further then, the institution of marriage
must have also been designed by a woman. After all, it is the noose worn
by man 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. :)

Mike G. (and, yes, Iam happily married)

NHunter539

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97
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>>In many of the later episodes, Danno wears this strange blue-plaid suit. It's
a very subtle plaid, large in pattern, but it's weird enough to have caught my
eye. I think Jim MacArthur might have been trying to upstage Jack Lord a
little bit. They were both stage-trained actors and very knowledgeable in how
to do little bits like that to steal the scene. heeheehee.<<

Maybe his mother taught him some of the tricks used to upstage people.
Nancy

Fogarty

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Oct 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/14/97
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Good point!
Though on my tv it still shows up as brown, (darn it!) and sometimes looks
shiny, as if it's been pressed with a too hot iron.

Teresa
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Zipquik

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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>The green suit that danno wears appears to be olive drab or puke
>> green,perhaps the uglier the suit that danno would wear would only make
>> steve look better in his suit
>>

What a cynical attitude ! (I was thinking the same thing myself)

Carol S.

Blurb

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In article <61tl39$gc7$1...@newsd-1.alma.webtv.net>, He...@webtv.net (Andrew
Paul Caruso) writes:

>The green suit that danno wears appears to be olive drab or puke
>green,perhaps the uglier the suit that danno would wear would only make
>steve look better in his suit

It IS a disgusting color, isn't it? What in the world possessed James
MacArthur to wear such a color? But then, he does have a WEIRD sense of
humor . . .

Blurb

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In article <19971014203...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
nhunt...@aol.com (NHunter539) writes:

>> I think Jim MacArthur might have been trying to upstage Jack Lord a
>> little bit. They were both stage-trained actors and very knowledgeable in
>>how to do little bits like that to steal the scene. heeheehee.<<
>
>Maybe his mother taught him some of the tricks used to upstage people.

That's what I think.

Fogarty

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--
jimfo...@access.net.au

>
>
> In many of the later episodes, Danno wears this strange blue-plaid suit.
> It's a very subtle plaid, large in pattern, but it's weird enough to have

> caught my eye. I think Jim MacArthur might have been trying to upstage


> Jack Lord a little bit. They were both stage-trained actors and very
> knowledgeable in how to do little bits like that to steal the scene.
heeheehee.
>

> Karen Rhodes
>>
>
>
Good for him if he was!
He deserved better treatment than he received in a lot o;f episodes!

Teresa


Blurb

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In article <344369...@cctr.umkc.edu>, Collin Freeman
<cfre...@cctr.umkc.edu> writes:

>What makes you think a man designed them? I personally think a woman
>was behind those hideous fashion trends, ties included. I mean, what
>man would design a noose to wear around your neck 9 hours a day?

First of all, the majority of the haute couture fashion designers are and
always have been men. It's the men designers who put women in most of the
hideous so-called fashions. Yecch. (But then, it's the stupid women who
fall for that crap, eh? Not me, bubba -- my uniform of the day is jeans
(or shorts) and a t-shirt! <grin>)

Second of all, "the mind of man" is a phrase which is, never mind today's
politically correct stupidity which forgets traditional English usage,
gender-neutral and refers to "mankind" which has been the traditional term,
for centuries, for humanity of whichever (or whatever) gender.

I doubt seriously that, at the time the necktie or its ancestor first made
its debut, women were allowed in the design profession, never mind ANY
profession (it's a few centuries old). After all, high-heeled shoes were a
male invention, and they were first intended for and worn by men. I guess
when the male population subjected to that fashion item discovered how
uncomfortable they are and how they hurt the feet, they sloughed them off
on women. And who was it, I wonder, who decided centuries ago in China
that women would be daintier (and probably easier to control in their
movements) if their feet were bound, thus making it excruciatingly painful
to walk? I doubt that, in that very male-dominated society, it was a woman.

But this is all, after all, off topic.

Zipquik

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>The green suit that danno wears appears to be olive drab or puke
>>green,perhaps the uglier the suit that danno would wear would only make
>>steve look better in his suit
>
>It IS a disgusting color, isn't it? What in the world possessed James
>MacArthur to wear such a color?

Since when do actors have a say about their wardrobe ? Unless they are a big
star, or have a lot of leverage, such decisions
are probably out of their hands.

Carol S.

Fogarty

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Maybe Jack Lord decided that since he couldn't out act JM, he'd just have
to make him LOOK bad!

Teresa
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Heather Henderson

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In article <01bcdb7b$5ae8d540$487438cb@jfogarty>, "Fogarty"
<JimFo...@access.net.au> wrote:

> Maybe Jack Lord decided that since he couldn't out act JM, he'd just have
> to make him LOOK bad!
>
> Teresa

It was in his contract: "supporting players must 1) be shorter than me, and
2) wear suits of an ugly color" :-)

Danno's suit may have been unattractive, but actually, Steve was the one
who committed the most heinous fashion crimes throughout the show's run.
My first reaction upon seeing Steve in the white suit/pink scarf/planter's
hat combo was "Now DANNO would not be caught dead in that outfit!!!"

Heather

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Bookmark 'em, Danno!

Blurb

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In article <19971017015...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
zip...@aol.com (Zipquik) writes:

>Since when do actors have a say about their wardrobe ? Unless they are a
>big star, or have a lot of leverage, such decisions are probably out of
their hands.

In Hollywood, yes. In Hawaii, much less so. In Hollywood there are vast
wardrobe departments at the studios, and businesses all over town which
cater to the film and television trade. In Honolulu, no such at all. They
did not have a large wardrobe department; when they began filming in 1967
(the original pilot movie was done in November of 1967), they had no
wardrobe department (and no prop department) at all. I'm sure they
developed a fairly good wardrobe department as time went on, but still it
never achieved the size and scope that was immediately available in
Hollywood. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the actors furnished their own
costuming in many cases.

In fact, the loud aloha shirts that Jack wears in some scenes in some
episodes were made by his wife Marie, a former fashion designer.

So, in this case, it's less likely that the decisions were, in fact, out
of the hands of the cast members.

I mean, let's face it, what self-respecting wardrobe department would put
its lead actor in such garish flowered shirts, and its second-banana in
such a yucchy pukey green suit? <grin>

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