BBC Newsround book 5 news!
Miss Issippi
Book V: Harry to visit Azkaban?
Story date: 27 April 2001
Watch Lizo's latest interview with J.K
Harry Potter author J.K Rowling has picked up another prize. This time, it's
the W.H Smith award for Best Children's Book for The Goblet of Fire.
"I'm deeply honoured," she told Newsround about the award that's chosen by
readers' votes.
"It's readers saying what they want to read, I'm just impressed that people
took the time and trouble to vote. It's wonderful."
She also gave a few hints of what was in store for Harry in Book V, The
Order of the Phoenix.
"Harry visits a few places that have been mentioned in the books, but we've
never got inside before," she reveals. " He visits places other than Diagon
Alley and Hogwarts. People will be able to guess where, I'm sure."
We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
might visit Azkaban, or perhaps even the Ministry of Magic. But we'll have
to wait until next year to know for sure.
Scott L
On 27-Apr-2001, "Miss Issippi" <miss_i...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Harry visits a few places that have been mentioned in the books, but
> we've
> never got inside before," she reveals. " He visits places other than
> Diagon
> Alley and Hogwarts. People will be able to guess where, I'm sure."
>
> We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
> might visit Azkaban, or perhaps even the Ministry of Magic. But we'll have
> to wait until next year to know for sure.
Godric's Hollow. Guaranteed. :-)
Just a monkey,
Scott
Found at http://www.dreamwater.org/moonfriend/index.html
Email me at scott644(at)home.com
Joseph Romagnano
Scott L wrote:
> On 27-Apr-2001, "Miss Issippi" <miss_i...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Harry visits a few places that have been mentioned in the books, but
> > we've
> > never got inside before," she reveals. " He visits places other than
> > Diagon
> > Alley and Hogwarts. People will be able to guess where, I'm sure."
> >
> > We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
> > might visit Azkaban, or perhaps even the Ministry of Magic. But we'll have
> > to wait until next year to know for sure.
>
> Godric's Hollow. Guaranteed. :-)
>
> Just a monkey,
>
> Scott
>
Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose there is
a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to seeing where his
home used to be?
Joe :-)>
James J. Dominguez
>Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose
>there is a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to
>seeing where his home used to be?
There would _have_ to be some kind of memorial, statue, or plaque of
some kind. AFter all, Godric's Hollow was the place where Voldemort's
reign of terror was brought to an end, at the cost of the lives of two
well-liked members of the magical community.
Now, do wizard statues move like wizard photos? A mobile statue of
a baby Harry would be sure to freak the real Harry out quite a lot.
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>Joseph Romagnano <jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
>>Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose
>>there is a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to
>>seeing where his home used to be?
I think that could be a very moving moment -- hope it happens. May trigger
some of Harry's happier first memories than the moment of his parent's
death.
>
> There would _have_ to be some kind of memorial, statue, or plaque of
>some kind. AFter all, Godric's Hollow was the place where Voldemort's
>reign of terror was brought to an end, at the cost of the lives of two
>well-liked members of the magical community.
>
> Now, do wizard statues move like wizard photos? A mobile statue of
>a baby Harry would be sure to freak the real Harry out quite a lot.
>
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That _would_ be freaky -- his own baby album on public display with baby
Harry
crawling around in and out of the photos in his nappies! And hopefully a few
of him being held by James or Lily. However, they'd have to do something to
hide that memorial from casual muggle observers, I suppose.
Melissa
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>
> >===== Original Message From de...@ihug.com.au (James J. Dominguez) =====
> >Joseph Romagnano <jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose
> >>there is a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to
> >>seeing where his home used to be?
>
> I think that could be a very moving moment -- hope it happens. May trigger
> some of Harry's happier first memories than the moment of his parent's
> death.
He'd be too young to have those sort of memories - 1 year old is at the
very fringes, so unless magic imprinted memories on his brain, then I
doubt it. But yes, I've been wondering why he hasn't been to Godric's
Hollow before - maybe it's been built on, as one of those horrible
housing estates.
I should imagine that there would just be a plaque where the house was,
with anti-muggle charms, with a memorial garden maybe, and wizard
reconstructions of the event.
Miriam
Scott L
On 28-Apr-2001, de...@ihug.com.au (James J. Dominguez) wrote:
> >Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose
> >there is a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to
> >seeing where his home used to be?
>
> There would _have_ to be some kind of memorial, statue, or plaque
> of
> some kind. AFter all, Godric's Hollow was the place where Voldemort's
> reign of terror was brought to an end, at the cost of the lives of two
> well-liked members of the magical community.
>
> Now, do wizard statues move like wizard photos? A mobile statue
> of
> a baby Harry would be sure to freak the real Harry out quite a lot.
These people seem eminently practical. I suspect the house would be
preserved in its blasted state, to be the memorial of the good that
happened there, and a reminder of what bad was stopped as well. But then
the Riddle House already has that distinction, so I'm not to certain....
Joseph Romagnano
"James J. Dominguez" wrote:
> Joseph Romagnano <jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
> >Now THAT is something I definitely would like to see. Do you suppose
> >there is a memorial of some kind? How do you think Harry would react to
> >seeing where his home used to be?
>
> There would _have_ to be some kind of memorial, statue, or plaque of
> some kind. AFter all, Godric's Hollow was the place where Voldemort's
> reign of terror was brought to an end, at the cost of the lives of two
> well-liked members of the magical community.
>
> Now, do wizard statues move like wizard photos? A mobile statue of
> a baby Harry would be sure to freak the real Harry out quite a lot.
>
I know it would freak me out!! Or even his parents. How about a small
visitor's center/museum? I'm sure they must have removed the wreckage of the
house by now but perhaps they have an "on this spot...." sort of thing.
Joe :-)>
Old One
> We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
> might visit Azkaban,
Nah, I don't think so. He probably wouldn't surrive. If one dementor
could knock him out, well there are probably hundreds or thousands of
them at Azkaban, and I don't think even HIS good Patronus would keep
them away...
--
Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecut-
ed; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons
attempting to find a plot in it will be shot. By order of the author.
--The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, by Mark Twain
Old One
> These people seem eminently practical. I suspect the house would be
> preserved in its blasted state, to be the memorial of the good that
> happened there, and a reminder of what bad was stopped as well. But then
> the Riddle House already has that distinction, so I'm not to certain....
Maybe it'll be The Riddle House he visits.
O'Karen
<jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
Hey, it might jog his memory. Would be interesting for him to remember
a little more.
Have you noticed his memory has no visual except for the flash of
green. His eyes must have already been weak. And how did he know who
was running here and there. He heard people running around but I'm not
sure he got the identities correct.
oKaren
--
"The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if
you lost all your money." -- Anonymous
O'Karen
Old One <7_little_...@alienmail.com> wrote:
> Miss Issippi <miss_i...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
> > might visit Azkaban,
>
> Nah, I don't think so. He probably wouldn't surrive. If one dementor
> could knock him out, well there are probably hundreds or thousands of
> them at Azkaban, and I don't think even HIS good Patronus would keep
> them away...
It would be a more politically astute move to send him to St. Mungos,
either to visit the Longbottoms or determine whether he is crazy or a
liar since Fudge just can't accept the third option.
Joseph Romagnano
O'Karen wrote:
A memory jog from the location is possible and probable, but moving statues of his
parents? I'd be more freaked than likely to remember anything.
Joe :-)>
Chris Share
HP3 spoiers
> > We'd be willing to bet all the gold in Gringotts that she means that Harry
> > might visit Azkaban,
>
> Nah, I don't think so. He probably wouldn't surrive. If one dementor
> could knock him out, well there are probably hundreds or thousands of
> them at Azkaban, and I don't think even HIS good Patronus would keep
> them away...
Are you sure? Sure, the first time he saw a dementor he became
unconscious, however later on he gets better. When he's surrounded by a
large group of dementors his patronus fails, but after he's been through
the time turner the later him creates a patronus that *does* work, very
well.
Anyway, MoM officials have been to Azkaban before - Arthur Weasley said
that it made him feel awful, but he survived it fine. So Harry could
also go there - and anyway, even if there are hundreds of Dementors
there, they wouldn't all be in the same place at once. And Harry could
keep a smaller number away with his patronus, IMHO.
chris
RickWiles1
as such.
Chris Share
> But, if I recall correctly those were not really demenors just people discrized
> as such.
a) Quote a bit of what you're replying to, so people know which bit
you're on about.
b) All of the cases I mentioned were real Dementors - I looked in the
book.
In fact, the only times I can think of things seeming to be Dementors
and yet not being are...
bit of HP3 and HP4 spoiler
not much of one, so that should do.
...in HP3 where Harry is telling Lupin what form he thought the boggart
would have taken, and in HP4 in the maze he sees a Dementor, but finds
out it's a boggart when it trips up.
chris
Kenneth Stagg
>On 29 Apr 2001 15:15:32 GMT, RickWiles1 said...
>and yet not being are...
>
>bit of HP3 and HP4 spoiler
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>not much of one, so that should do.
>
>out it's a boggart when it trips up.
And the second time the Dementors show up at a quidditch match - they're just
Slytherin slime playing dress up.
-Ken
A.Vonk
Antoinette
Richard Eney
[ somebody whose name was snipped wrote: ]
>>>>> Now, do wizard statues move like wizard photos? A mobile statue of
>>>>> a baby Harry would be sure to freak the real Harry out quite a lot.
>How can they built moving statues?? What would Muggles think (or do)
>about that??
There are "moving statues" at DisneyWorld - they're called Animatronics
figures, and people go there to watch them and listen to the recorded
speech that is (almost) synchronized with the mouth movements. Call it
a modern-art sculpture and most people won't think anything is weird.
Visitors might come to see it as a tourist attraction, and the local
people will mostly ignore it.
=Tamar
Tim
A.Vonk wrote in message <3AFB01B4...@cistron.nl>...
>How can they built moving statues?? What would Muggles think (or do) about
that??
>
malls? Now we know what they really are ;-)
Joseph Romagnano
Tim wrote:
I always thought they looked too statuesque. As for A.Vonk, how do they make
the figures walk around in the pictures?
Joe :-)>
A.Vonk
Joseph Romagnano schreef:
> Tim wrote:
>
> > A.Vonk wrote in message <3AFB01B4...@cistron.nl>...
> > >How can they built moving statues?? What would Muggles think (or do) about
> > that??
> > >
> > Have you never seen those performance artists that hang around in shopping
> > malls? Now we know what they really are ;-)
> LOL
>
> I always thought they looked too statuesque. As for A.Vonk, how do they make
> the figures walk around in the pictures?
>
> Joe :-)>
Hi Joe,
Well, I know they make figures walk around in the pictures, what I meant was:
wouldn't Muggles be surprised to see moving statues of Harry's parents or of
Harry as a baby? And what about the memorial thing: On this spot Voldemort
killed.... etc., etc. Muggles don't know the history of Godric's Hollow, well
they must know there was a disaster but they don't know who ot what Voldemort is.
Antoinette
Joseph Romagnano
"A.Vonk" wrote:
Oh, well, most of us would probably agree that muggles probably aren't going to be
let anywhere near Godric's Hollow in the first place, thus allowing them to have as
many moving statues as they wish (and I don't mean emotionally moving though they
probably would be).
Joe :-)>
O'Karen
<dic...@Radix.Net> wrote:
It's amazing what muggles get used to, they have moving pictures at the
Dursley's and they don't think anything of it. Most people have no
idea how they get the people on the TV screen to move. Most people
don't care, I would assume that over time they (Muggles and Wizards,
too) would become very familiar with them without ever really
understanding them and wouldn't find them wierd at all.
o'Karen
--
"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." --
Mark Twain
O'Karen
<jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
If Godric's Hollow is populated enough to be considered a community, it
has muggles living in it because Hogsmeade is the only community with
all magical people.
BTW, I just unwrapped and rewrapped the quotes, they were getting
messy. Doesn't your newsreader have the unwrap and rewrap commands?
Why would muggles be surprised if they came across a memorial to people
that they've never heard of who died in an event they've never heard
of? It happens to me all the time. I don't know how it is in other
states, but an awful lot of men from other parts of the US came to GA
in the late 19th centery and never returned home alive. There were and
relatives being such a short distance away did come down after the War
and build all kinds of little statues and other things just all over
the place. It is hard to go for a walk in the woods without finding a
memorial to five guys from a group of ten who lived in a little bitty
place in Ohio. (Actually, I made that memorial up, but I've seen quite
a few which are similar)
An awful lot of guys died in that War and an awful lot of their friends
and relatives made the short trip South to set up memorials to people
who never made it into the history books. That is one of many reasons
why to many southerners, the War Between The States seems like it
happened only yesterday.
Joseph Romagnano
O'Karen wrote:
> [snip]
>
> If Godric's Hollow is populated enough to be considered a community, it
> has muggles living in it because Hogsmeade is the only community with
> all magical people.
Or it could be like "The Burrow" and be an isolated house nestled
inbetween some mountains...
>
>
> BTW, I just unwrapped and rewrapped the quotes, they were getting
> messy. Doesn't your newsreader have the unwrap and rewrap commands?
>
Not that I know of, I'm using Netscape and you're the first person to tell
me something funny is going on. Everything appears perfectly normal on my
end. Please tell me if it went weird again on yours.
>
> Why would muggles be surprised if they came across a memorial to people
> that they've never heard of who died in an event they've never heard
> of? It happens to me all the time. I don't know how it is in other
> states, but an awful lot of men from other parts of the US came to GA
> in the late 19th centery and never returned home alive. There were and
> relatives being such a short distance away did come down after the War
> and build all kinds of little statues and other things just all over
> the place. It is hard to go for a walk in the woods without finding a
> memorial to five guys from a group of ten who lived in a little bitty
> place in Ohio. (Actually, I made that memorial up, but I've seen quite
> a few which are similar)
>
> An awful lot of guys died in that War and an awful lot of their friends
> and relatives made the short trip South to set up memorials to people
> who never made it into the history books. That is one of many reasons
> why to many southerners, the War Between The States seems like it
> happened only yesterday.
>
Memorials to people you never heard of are nothing new. Now, how would
you react if the statues were moving, walking around, etc., etc.
Joe :-)>
Joseph Romagnano
O'Karen wrote:
Well, the closest thing we muggles have at the moment are those "digital
picture frame" thingys. Short of a live web-cam, however, the subjects of the
pictures don't move from frame-to-frame, carry on conversations with other
beings in the pictures and just, in general, act like living seperate beings
that are reflections of the people they are imaged from.
Joe :-)>
M.M. Moules
>
> O'Karen wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >
> > If Godric's Hollow is populated enough to be considered a community, it
> > has muggles living in it because Hogsmeade is the only community with
> > all magical people.
>
> Or it could be like "The Burrow" and be an isolated house nestled
> inbetween some mountains...
>
I thought that it might be like Wharram Percy - a deserted village.
(Very interesting village that died off a couple of hundred years ago
due to the enclosure acts, although some people did move back. It could
be how Hogsmeade is disguised as there were a lot of crofters forced off
the land in scotland, leaving these ghostly hamlets). for a photo
http://www.woldsway.gov.uk/wharram.htm
Or it could have been deserted like the village in the middle of the MoD
range - I can't remember what it's called. It was evacuated 50 years ago
so that the army could practise, and the residents are allowed back once
a year.
Miriam
Joseph Romagnano
"M.M. Moules" wrote:
Interesting. So, if I'm reading you correctly, you think Godric's Hollow is
kind of an old village that was abandoned except for a few people?
Joe :-)>
P.S. Cool picture.
O'Karen
<jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
> Memorials to people you never heard of are nothing new. Now, how would
> you react if the statues were moving, walking around, etc., etc.
I'd think I was at Disneyland
Joseph Romagnano
O'Karen wrote:
> In article <3AFCB15B...@charter.net>, Joseph Romagnano
> <jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > Memorials to people you never heard of are nothing new. Now, how would
> > you react if the statues were moving, walking around, etc., etc.
>
> I'd think I was at Disneyland
>
> o'Karen
>
That's one way to look at it. I think the real test of the reaction will
come when we get a good look at Godric's Hollow. If it's some sort of
city/suburbia place then, yeah, animatronic statues are cool. Out in the
boonies (as I picture "The Burrow"), heck no. Also, don't forget, we're
talking about statues that behave like the images in the wizard pictures
(though instead of 2 dimensions I'd bet they'd be limited strictly to linked
sites or something like that) which our current state of animatronics really
can't touch.
Joe :-)>
M.M. Moules
Sort of - I'm saying that muggles think it was an abandoned muggle
settlement - it was another purely magical settlement, but by the time V
killed the potters there was just the potters there. But the disguise
for wizarding locations is the many ruined, deserted villages dotted
round the scottish landscape.
Miriam
Joseph Romagnano
"M.M. Moules" wrote:
That's really cool. I'm hoping to get to go to Scotland this summer, I'll keep my
eyes peeled. The Potters as the only ones left in a large village certainly gives
them quite an estate to give to Harry, no?
Joe :-)>
M.M. Moules
Do a search on "Wharram Percy" to begin with, and there should be links
to other "lost" villages. I don't think it would a sizeable estate, but
I do think that it would give Harry some sort of security, and somewhere
to live, post-18.
I'm wondering if wizard inheritance laws are more close to the old welsh
ones, than English ones. (don't know about the Scots law). That is that
the estates are automatically inherited by all acknowledged children -
born in wedlock or out, rather than divided by will, or by the probate
courts.
It would be nice if some more wizarding settlements could be established
again.
Miriam
Joseph Romagnano
"M.M. Moules" wrote:
Yes it would be nice if some communities could be reestablished. I also would like to
have Harry retire (at age 18 no less) to a rather comfortable place where he could
spend some time recouperating from his childhood and adolescence.
Joe :-)>