Joint lessons
Jaak Suurpere
Herbology, right?
The only ones described as shared with Slytherin are Potions, Flying and
Care
of Magical Creatures.
Do you think that the lessons not described closer might all be
Gryffindor-only (like Transfiguration, DADA and some others seem to be)? Or
are there more shared lessons?
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Lynn
>Hufflepuff is Herbology, right? The only ones described
>as shared with Slytherin are Potions, Flying and
>Care of Magical Creatures. Do you think that the lessons
>not described closer might all be Gryffindor-only
>(like Transfiguration, DADA and some others seem to
>be)? Or are there more shared lessons?
From the limited examples we are given, it looks to me that the shared lessons
are the ones that involve a "lab". Classes that are stictly lecture and
homework (History of Magic, Arithmancy, Ancient Runes) would only be, say, an
hour long each day. Lessons that involve lecture AND hands on work ("lab")
would then need to be 2 hours. (Potions, Herbology, Magical Creatures)
In order for professors to teach all four houses of all seven years, that's 28
classes a week! (hmm, that's 6 classes a day Mon-Thurs, and 4 on Fri since we
know the kids get done early on Friday.) For the lessons to be twice as long,
they'd need to double up in order to get them all in.
Now, maybe someone can answer a question I have. What, exactly, does "Double"
Potions mean? Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
There's nothing like it in the US. Does it refer to the class being twice as
long? Or being taught to two houses at once? (Why, then, wouldn't they say
Double Herbology?)
Lynn
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>Now, maybe someone can answer a question I have. What, exactly, does "Double"
>Potions mean? Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
>There's nothing like it in the US. Does it refer to the class being twice as
>long? Or being taught to two houses at once? (Why, then, wouldn't they say
>Double Herbology?)
>
>Lynn
It just means the lesson is twice as long - most lessons at my school
were 35 mins, however some of them (basically all by the time we
finsihed) were double length. Originally it was just stuff like
sciences and games that needed longer, but the rest had doubles by the
end.
chrs
Karen
<ch...@caesium.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
A double period class at Hogwarts is 1 1/2 hours long. This is similar
to our world where more time is needed for lab courses. Although
Americans may not refer to double Chemistry, it is the same concept.
Potions requires time to simmer. A 45 minute class would not be
practical since they must cut up all the ingredients so neatly for a
superiour result.
Karen
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<snip>
> Now, maybe someone can answer a question I have. What, exactly, does
"Double"
> Potions mean? Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
> There's nothing like it in the US. Does it refer to the class being twice
as
> long? Or being taught to two houses at once? (Why, then, wouldn't they
say
> Double Herbology?)
It means it's twice as long as a normal period. Double periods are
especially useful for science subjects because there's more time to do
practical experiments. A double period is actually much longer than two
single periods because time is lost between single periods as the students
walk from one class to another. Double periods are especially useful for
advanced classes, because you can get a lot more done, and because older
students can concentrate for longer. When I was at school, the "nicer"
teachers let us have a 5 minute break in the middle of a double period. In
the winter months, we used to have Sports before classes on some afternoons
to take advantage of the light, and then double maths seemed to last
forever... (sigh)
At Hogwarts, given the size of the castle, I would suppose the break might
need to be as much as 10 minutes.
- Venya (whose father is Director of Studies at a British boarding school!)
Karen
<davele...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A double period is actually much longer than two
> single periods because time is lost between single periods as the students
> walk from one class to another. Double periods are especially useful for
> advanced classes, because you can get a lot more done, and because older
> students can concentrate for longer. When I was at school, the "nicer"
> teachers let us have a 5 minute break in the middle of a double period. In
> the winter months, we used to have Sports before classes on some afternoons
> to take advantage of the light, and then double maths seemed to last
> forever... (sigh)
>
> At Hogwarts, given the size of the castle, I would suppose the break might
> need to be as much as 10 minutes.
At Hogwarts, a double period is 90 minutes long, but I've never seen
the length of a single period mentioned. I had assumed 45 minutes, but
that doesn't allow for a break. A 10 minute break whould mean that a
single period is only 40 minutes long. Would that be enough time for
anything?
In the real world, my son goes to a school where different periods are
all different lengths. I think his shortest class is 40 minutes, but
math and language arts are a full hour. The bells all ring throughout
the whole school building, but the 6 graders ignore the bells for the
other years and vice versa. This way, each grade changes classes
classes at a different time reducing congestion in the hall. And it
seems like the minute that one class change ends, another begins. Very
noisy school.
Venya
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<snip>
> > At Hogwarts, given the size of the castle, I would suppose the break
might
> > need to be as much as 10 minutes.
>
> At Hogwarts, a double period is 90 minutes long, but I've never seen
> the length of a single period mentioned. I had assumed 45 minutes, but
> that doesn't allow for a break. A 10 minute break whould mean that a
> single period is only 40 minutes long. Would that be enough time for
> anything?
>
> In the real world, my son goes to a school where different periods are
> all different lengths. I think his shortest class is 40 minutes, but
> math and language arts are a full hour. The bells all ring throughout
> the whole school building, but the 6 graders ignore the bells for the
> other years and vice versa. This way, each grade changes classes
> classes at a different time reducing congestion in the hall. And it
> seems like the minute that one class change ends, another begins. Very
> noisy school.
I know I keep using my own schooldays as a reference point, but since my
school was founded in 1519 it's probably as good a model for Hogwarts as
anyone else's, right? Lessons for me were 40 minutes each, "travel time"
included (no, not "time travel"), although the timetable structure was
eventually changed to create 45 minute periods. At the time, 40 minutes
seemed quite long enough, and I think 40-45 minutes is pretty much the
optimum length before the students start getting restless. Although as I
say, double periods were invaluable for practical work and the older
students.
BTW, did anyone see the programme "JK Rowling and the Harry Potter Express"
on Channel 5 in the UK a few months ago? The highlight was an interview with
JK's old chemistry teacher. He seemed to have taken his immortalisation as
Snape in fairly good spirit.
- Venya
Danel
> <davele...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A double period is actually much longer than two
> > single periods because time is lost between single periods as the
students
> > walk from one class to another. Double periods are especially useful for
> > advanced classes, because you can get a lot more done, and because older
> > students can concentrate for longer. When I was at school, the "nicer"
> > teachers let us have a 5 minute break in the middle of a double period.
In
> > the winter months, we used to have Sports before classes on some
afternoons
> > to take advantage of the light, and then double maths seemed to last
> > forever... (sigh)
> >
> > At Hogwarts, given the size of the castle, I would suppose the break
might
> > need to be as much as 10 minutes.
>
> At Hogwarts, a double period is 90 minutes long, but I've never seen
> the length of a single period mentioned. I had assumed 45 minutes, but
> that doesn't allow for a break. A 10 minute break whould mean that a
> single period is only 40 minutes long. Would that be enough time for
> anything?
> Karen
Sure! At my school, most periods are 40 minutes long, with the exception of
'Double's. Actually, most lessons only get about 35 minutes after travel
time is taken away, and the first lesson on a morning is usually disrupted -
massively - by assembly, because some of the teachers have a tendency to
blather when making announcements.
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John Fisher
<Ka...@infobreak.net> writes
>At Hogwarts, a double period is 90 minutes long, but I've never seen
>the length of a single period mentioned. I had assumed 45 minutes, but
>that doesn't allow for a break. A 10 minute break whould mean that a
>single period is only 40 minutes long. Would that be enough time for
>anything?
My periods were forty minutes plus five minutes to change over. Double
periods were 85 minutes plus five minutes to change over. Mostly double
periods were for sciences, but I remember one dread double maths period.
As for a break in the middle - no chance.
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Rosemary
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<snippy>
Completely OT, I know, but I just moved to a school where all the
periods last an hour, which I think is ridiculous - and means that
I'm almost asleep by the end of double English! I'm not sure whether
Hogwarts would have travel time, most schools I've been to don't.
Thing is, most schoolteachers seem to let you out of the lesson when
the bell goes, or sometimes not till after that (anyone remember
"the bell is for me, not for you!"?) and then complain if you're not
at the beginning of lessons on time. What do they expect us to do -
apparate?
Rosemary
Einstein
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Here's food for thought.... studies have shown that it is VERY
difficult to study ANYTHING for longer than 45 minutes. Beyond that
point, retention rates (the amount of stuff you remember) drop
dramatically. So 40 to 45 minutes would be a good amount of time for a
lesson.
At my school, it would be 40-minute periods, with 5 minutes gap in
be4tween do get to the next class or (in the case of a double period), a
5-minute break.
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>
> Completely OT, I know, but I just moved to a school where all the
> periods last an hour, which I think is ridiculous - and means that
> I'm almost asleep by the end of double English! I'm not sure whether
> Hogwarts would have travel time, most schools I've been to don't.
> Thing is, most schoolteachers seem to let you out of the lesson when
> the bell goes, or sometimes not till after that (anyone remember
> "the bell is for me, not for you!"?) and then complain if you're not
> at the beginning of lessons on time. What do they expect us to do -
> apparate?
>
> Rosemary
Not till you've passed your licencing test and proven you won't splinch
yourself!
Joe :-)>
Jonathan Buzzard
"Rosemary" <biz...@misfit.co.uk> writes:
[SNIP]
>
> Completely OT, I know, but I just moved to a school where all the
> periods last an hour, which I think is ridiculous - and means that
> I'm almost asleep by the end of double English! I'm not sure whether
> Hogwarts would have travel time, most schools I've been to don't.
> Thing is, most schoolteachers seem to let you out of the lesson when
> the bell goes, or sometimes not till after that (anyone remember
> "the bell is for me, not for you!"?) and then complain if you're not
> at the beginning of lessons on time. What do they expect us to do -
> apparate?
>
Fairly standard practice, hour long periods. Though usually double
periods are reserved for pratical lesons, as many experiments
simply cannot be done in an hour.
JAB.
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Venya
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> <snip>
>
> Completely OT, I know, but I just moved to a school where all the
> periods last an hour, which I think is ridiculous - and means that
> I'm almost asleep by the end of double English! I'm not sure whether
> Hogwarts would have travel time, most schools I've been to don't.
> Thing is, most schoolteachers seem to let you out of the lesson when
> the bell goes, or sometimes not till after that (anyone remember
> "the bell is for me, not for you!"?) and then complain if you're not
> at the beginning of lessons on time. What do they expect us to do -
> apparate?
>
> Rosemary
>
>
Sounds like you don't need travel time. You need time travel.
- Venya
adhesive
> Potions mean? Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
> There's nothing like it in the US. Does it refer to the class being twice as
> long? Or being taught to two houses at once? (Why, then, wouldn't they say
> Double Herbology?)
>
> Lynn
my guess is that it means being taught to two houses at once. they do
say double herbology; in chamber of secrets, when they are handed
their timetables, it says something along the lines of "harry saw that
they had double herbology with hufflepuff first".
k.
Terry Eden
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> > Now, maybe someone can answer a question I have. What, exactly, does
"Double"
> > Potions mean? Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
Yup it means a double period of a subject. Usually subjects are taught in
one period (say, an hour. In some schools it's 45 mins in others 1:15hrs).
So a double period is one which takes twices as long because the periods in
which it is taught are concurrent
Terry
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> > > Is "double" a common term to describe a class in the UK?
>
> Yup it means a double period of a subject. Usually subjects are taught in
> one period (say, an hour. In some schools it's 45 mins in others 1:15hrs).
> So a double period is one which takes twices as long because the periods in
> which it is taught are concurrent
Is suspect you may mean consectutive.
Mac
Terry Eden
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It depends if you have a time turner or not :-)
Bazoo
The double is indeed referring to the length of the lessons. Usually the day
will be broken into 8/9 lessons (depending on the school) and a double
lesson is just an extended teaching period.
There we go. Nice.
Kim Moss
It means two lessons joined together cos last year I had double technology.
2 hours of stupid old wood. I think that they always share lessons don't
they.