FAQ: alt.fan.harry-potter Frequently Asked Questions
Petrea Mitchell
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<http://www.hogwartslibrary.net/ref/>. Of all the general FAQs, this can
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1. THE NEWSGROUP
1.1 How does this thing work?
1.2 What's on topic for this group?
1.3 What do these abbreviations mean?
1.4 What's a "spoiler"?
1.5 What sort of things need spoiler space?
1.6 What's "canon"?
1.7 Do I need to check the Google archive before posting?
1.8 Eek! Is Tom Felton really reading this?
2. THE BOOKS
2.1 What are the official Harry Potter books?
2.2 When will the next book be out?
2.3 Why was there such a huge gap between the release of the fourth
and fifth books?
2.4 Why is it the Sorcerer's Stone in the US and the Philosopher's Stone
everywhere else?
2.5 Where can I download the books?
2.6 No, where can I download illegal copies of them for free?
2.7 Will there be an eighth book?
2.8 How are the "adult" editions different from the regular ones?
2.9 What are the differences between the US and UK editions?
2.10 I heard there was going to be a book called...?
3. THE MOVIES
3.1 What can you tell me about the release of the next movie?
3.2 Who will be in the upcoming movies?
3.3 Are the movies canon?
3.4 Where can I download the movies?
3.5 No, where can I download illegal copies of them for free?
4. ELECTRONIC VERSIONS
4.1 How do I get to the deleted scenes on the extras DVD for the first
movie?
4.2 Is there another ending to the Chamber of Secrets tour?
4.3 Where can I find cheats for the video games?
5. WEB SITES
5.1 Where are the official sites?
5.2 Where can I find Harry Potter news?
5.3 Where can I find fan fiction?
5.4 What about reference sites?
5.5 What's the deal with the door on the Flash side of Rowling's
official site?
6. LEGAL STUFF
6.1 Is my fan site illegal?
6.2 Is fan fiction illegal?
6.3 What's the Stouffer lawsuit about and how is it doing?
6.4 What's going on with J. K. Rowling suing Steve Vander Ark?
6.5 Did you just say Rowling doesn't actually own Harry Potter?
7. GATHERINGS
7.1 What are some upcoming Harry Potter-related events?
8. THE RESTRICTED SECTION
This part is for questions that require spoilers to answer. Even the
question list has spoilers, so you will find it buried underneath the
spoiler space after section 7.
1. THE NEWSGROUP
1.1 How does this thing work?
Go to the following URL and check out the "What is Usenet" and "Usenet
Netiquette" sections: <http://www.faqs.org/usenet/usenet.html>.
If you're coming to us through Google Groups, it's possible that you can
also access this newsgroup locally through your ISP with a dedicated
newsreader. To test this, try going to "news:alt.fan.harry-potter" (no
"http"!) with your browser and see what happens.
If you stick with Google Groups, here's a quick tutorial on how to get
it to use to Usenet-style quoting, which will make your posts more
comprehensible to the rest of the world:
<http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/>.
1.2 What's on topic for this group?
Just about anything relating to the Harry Potter books, movies, or
merchandise, or to J. K. Rowling. Fan fiction, and detailed discussion
thereof, should go to alt.fan.harry-potter.creative.
1.3 What do these abbreviations mean?
a.f.h-p, afh-p, afhp, AFH-P, AFHP - alt.fan.harry-potter
AK - Avada Kedavra
CoS, COS - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
D - Dumbledore
DA - Dumbledore's Army
DADA - Defense Against the Dark Arts
DE - Death Eater(s)
GoF, GOF - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
HBP - Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
JKR - J. K. Rowling
LV - Lord Voldemort
MoM, MOM - Ministry of Magic
MWP&P, MWPP - Messrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs
OotP, OOTP, OoP, OOP - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
PoA, POA - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
PS - Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
SS - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
V - Voldemort
1.4 What's a "spoiler"?
In the broadest sense, any information from a book or movie someone
hasn't seen yet. For instance, if you haven't read _Harry Potter and the
Chamber of Secrets_ or seen the movie yet, an explanation of what the
Chamber of Secrets is would be a spoiler for you.
Articles which contain important spoilers should precede them with a
warning-- be sure to mention which book the spoilers are from-- and
lines of "spoiler space" so that a reader does not see any spoilers in
the first screen of the article. This gives them the chance to skip to
the next article to avoid being spoiled. You can put just about anything
you want in the lines of spoiler space, although it will help out the
blind readers, who have to use text-to-voice translators, if you don't
use a bunch of random punctuation.
1.5 What needs to be protected with spoiler space?
One category absolutely needs spoiler space: *any* plot information
about an as-yet-unreleased book or movie. Other than that, it's a
judgement call. The more significant the information is to the main plot
arc, the bigger a surprise it is, the later a book it comes from, the
more you should think about putting spoiler space in front of it. Don't
expect everyone to have digested all the books, movies, and interviews
before starting to read this group.
If you're going to use spoiler space, remember to keep the spoilers
out of your subject line, too.
1.6 What's "canon"?
The official version-- any information about the plot, characters, or
world of Harry Potter coming from the books or from Rowling herself.
1.7 Do I need to check the Google archive before posting?
Not unless you're posting a hot news tip, in which case the group would
appreciate it if you check to make sure you aren't the umpteenth person
to tell us about it. Other than that, even if the topic you're raising
has been discussed before, you or someone else who has joined this
newsgroup in the meantime might have something new to say about it.
Reading the rest of this FAQ before you post might be a good idea,
though.
1.8 Eek! Is Tom Felton really reading this?
He certainly endorses this newsgroup on his Web site, but he's a busy
guy and surely can't keep up with everything here. If your intention in
posting is for him to see your message, you would probably do better to
use his feedback page: <http://thomasfelton.com/feedback.html>. I'm sure
he'll appreciate your making the effort to contact him directly. So will
we.
2. THE BOOKS
2.1 What are the official Harry Potter books?
The main books:
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (or Sorcerer's Stone, in the US)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
Supplementary books:
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Quidditch Through the Ages
The Tales of Beedle the Bard (unpublished, but summary available at
<http://www.amazon.com/beedlebard>)
Anything else is unapproved by Rowling or her publishers, no matter how
official it claims to be.
2.2 When will the next book be out?
The series is finished. If there is going to be an encyclopedia to
follow it up, no release date has been announced for it.
2.3 Why was there such a huge gap between the release of the fourth and
fifth books?
The official reasons are the enormous size of the fifth book and a
desire to avoid the errors that got into the fourth book when it was
rushed out. If you prefer a juicy rumor, pick any or all of the
following: marriage, pregnancy, childbirth, writer's block, easy living,
and the Stouffer lawsuit.
2.4 Why is it the Sorcerer's Stone in the US and the Philosopher's Stone
everywhere else?
Philosopher's Stone is the proper term. Arthur Levine, the editor
handling the US version of the book, wanted to change it because he was
concerned that American parents would not understand the reference and
would be put off by the academic connotations of "Philosopher". The
change was made with Rowling's input and approval. Both Rowling and
Levine have expressed regrets since.
2.5 Where can I download the books?
The texts have not been published in electronic format. However, you can
get the audiobooks from iTunes.
2.6 No, where can I download illegal copies of them for free?
There are undoubtedly copies circulating out there somewhere, but don't
come crying to us when the FBI breaks down your door.
2.7 Will there be an eighth book?
There will be exactly seven books describing Harry's adventures, no
more. However, there are already two supplementary books (see 2.1), and
Rowling says that she would be willing to do more for charity. She's
also raised the possibility of doing a "Hogwarts Encyclopedia" after the
whole series has been published, but she is not contractually obligated
to do either of these things.
However, one thing she says she will definitely do is revise the whole
series once she finishes the seventh book.
2.8 How are the "adult" editions different from the regular ones?
The adult editions have more respectable-looking covers. Not a word of
the actual stories is different, but the W. H. Smith "People's Choice"
award was given specifically to the adult edition of _Order of the
Phoenix_.
2.9 What are the differences between the US and UK editions?
The Harry Potter Lexicon maintains lists of differences between the
editions. You can find them from the menu at
<http://www.hp-lexicon.org/help.html>. The differences are mostly due to
translating between the dialects (e.g., "jumper" in the UK becomes
"sweater" in the US).
2.10 I heard there was going to be a book called...?
Wait! If it's one of the following, it's not one of Rowling's titles.
Some of these have been circulating since before GoF was released.
Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell
Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat
Harry Potter and the Chariots of Light
Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch
Harry Potter and the Pillar of Storge
3. THE MOVIES
3.1 What can you tell me about the release of the next movie?
The movie adaptation of _Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince_ is
currently in pre-production. It's tentatively scheduled to be released
in November 2008.
3.2 Who will be in the upcoming movies?
Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint are confirmed through
the last movie.
Steve Kloves is being brought back as the scriptwriter, and David Yates,
who directed OotP, will be directing this one too.
3.3 Are the movies canon?
No. The scriptwriters have consulted with Rowling, but we have no way of
knowing whether information which is not in the books originated with
her or not.
3.4 Where can I download the movies?
Warner Bros. has not made them available for download.
3.5 No, where can I download illegal copies of them for free?
There are undoubtedly copies circulating out there somewhere, but don't
come crying to us when the FBI breaks down your door.
4. ELECTRONIC VERSIONS
4.1 How do I get to the deleted scenes on the extras DVD for the first
movie?
Settle in, this is a long trip. From the main menu, go to Diagon Alley.
Select bricks in any order until you get through the wall. Select the
key at the bottom of the sign, then select the stacks of coins. Go back
out to Diagon Alley and into Ollivander's. Pick any three wands; the
third will be successful. Return to the main menu and go to the
classrooms. Select the pedestal by clicking *twice* on it. Select the
flute. Select the key with the broken wing (it's the one way in the
back). Select the round potion bottle. Select the stone in the mirror
and you will at last be at the first deleted scenes menu.
Some people have reported that they can jump to title 80 (completion of
the key puzzle) and continue from there to the deleted scenes. Some
can't. If you try it and it doesn't work, you will need to restart your
DVD entirely to make the long way work.
4.2 Is there another ending to the Chamber of Secrets tour?
No, there's just the one way out.
4.3 Where can I find cheats for the video games?
There are a lot of sites that carry them-- enter "harry potter cheats"
and the game platform you are using at your favorite search engine.
5. WEB SITES
5.1 Where are the official sites?
For books, <http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter>, and for the movies,
<http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/>. Be warned that these sites are
spectacularly incompatible with anything but the latest popular browsers
running with plug-ins and no security.
Rowling's official site is at <http://www.jkrowling.com/> and does have
a "text version" with more limited information at
<http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/>.
5.2 Where can I find Harry Potter news?
DarkMark <http://www.darkmark.com/c.c>: General news.
Godric's Hollow <http://www.godrics-hollow.net/>: General news.
Harry Potter Fan Zone <http://www.harrypotterfanzone.com/>: General
news.
Harry Potter International <http://www.harrypotterintl.com/>: General
news.
Harry Potter's Page <http://www.harrypotterspage.com/>: General news.
HP4U <http://www.hp4u.co.uk/>: Movie news.
HPANA <http://www.hpana.com/>: General news plus feed of stories
gathered from several other sites listed here.
The Leaky Cauldron <http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/>: General news;
some insider access.
MuggleNet <http://www.mugglenet.com>: General news; some insider access.
The Snitch <http://www.thesnitch.co.uk/site/>: Primarily movie and
merchandise news, but carries major items of general interest.
Wizard News <http://www.wizardnews.com/>: General news; occasional news
on other fantasy fanchises.
Also, Dark Horizons <http://www.darkhorizons.com> and Counting Down
<http://www.countingdown.com/>, which are general movie news sites,
sometimes originate Potter-related news.
5.3 Where can I find fan fiction?
The following is an incomplete list of general Potter fan fiction sites.
Left out completely are the countless pages that specialize in
particular characters. See your favorite search engine if you want to
find one for your favorite character(s).
Fan Domination <http://fandomination.net/> (General fanfic site)
FanFic.Net <http://www.fanfiction.net/> (General fanfic site)
Fiction Alley <http://www.fictionalley.org/>
Forever Fandom <http://www.foreverfandom.net/> (General fanfic site)
Harry Potter Fan Fiction <http://www.harrypotterfanfiction.com/>
Marauders Archive <http://fanfiction.bitter-rain.net/>
Phoenix Song <http://www.phoenixsong.net/>
The Sugar Quill <http://www.sugarquill.net/>
Or, check your favorite news archive for articles on the newsgroup
alt.fan.harry-potter.creative.
5.4 What about reference sites?
Magic Muggles <http://www.magicmuggles.com/>: Web presence for this
newsgroup.
Harry Potter Lexicon <http://www.hp-lexicon.org/>: Complete character
information from the books, timelines, explanatory articles, and more.
The Akashic Record <http://www.m5p.com/~pravn/hp/>: Basic information
from the books, with etymologies, symbolism, and cultural information,
organized by spoiler level.
(Warning! The author of this FAQ is touting her own site here.)
Harry Potter Facts <http://www.harrypotterfacts.com/>: Important
facts by chapter, and extensive speculative discussion.
Harry Potter Reference Spreadsheet
<http://www.stobb.net/Harry_Potter_Characters_Spreadsheet.htm>:
Exhaustive lists of facts in categories such as character names, places,
passwords, and more.
Hogwarts Library <http://www.hogwartslibrary.net/>: Older reference and
discussion site organized in support of this newsgroup, now defunct and
living at the HP Lexicon.
5.5 What's the deal with the door on the Flash side of Rowling's
official site?
It opens only sporadically. If it won't open for you, you're not doing
anything wrong, it just means she didn't feel like letting it open that
day.
6. LEGAL STUFF
6.1 Is my fan site illegal?
It depends on exactly what you have on your site, how you're using it,
and whether any of the copyright or trademark holders has asked you to
stop. The entertainment industry is aware these days that it is in its
best interests to allow online fan communities to flourish, so you're
unlikely to get a cease-and-desist letter unless you are doing something
like distributing unauthorized copies of the books or movies from your
site.
Adding a copyright acknowledgement or a link to an official site isn't
going to help you if one of the copyright or trademark holders
disapproves of what you're doing. However, if you still would like to
include a disclaimer, "SteveD3" reports that when he asked Warner
Brothers for official permission for his Web site, they suggested the
following:
"HARRY POTTER, HOGWARTS CREST, GRYFFINDOR, RAVENCLAW, HUFFLEPUFF, and
SLYTHERIN characters, names and related characters are trademarks of
Warner Bros. TM & (C) 2003. Harry Potter Publishing Rights (C) J.K.R.
Note the opinions on this site are those made by the owners. All stories
(fanfiction) are owned by the author and are not subject to copyright
law. This site (C) 2003 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED."
If you are a real stickler for details, change "2003" to the release
year of the most recent movie.
6.2 Is fan fiction illegal?
If Rowling or Bloomsbury object to it, yes, but they don't much. Rowling
says on her Web site: "Fan fiction is really fun, though, and I am so
proud to think that Harry Potter inspired so much creativity!" On the
other hand, she does not approve of adult-oriented fan fiction.
6.3 What's the Stouffer lawsuit about and how is it doing?
Nancy Stouffer, another children's author, accused Rowling of stealing
material from her stories to use in the Harry Potter books. Rowling sued
to have the accusation disproved, Stouffer made counterclaims, and
finally, in September 2002, a judge ruled not only that the similarities
between the two authors' works were "minimal and superficial", but that
some of Stouffer's evidence was fraudulent, and fined her $50,000.
Stouffer appealed the decision, but the appeal was denied in January
2004.
You can read the full text of the original judgment at
<http://www.eyrie.org/~robotech/stouffer.htm>. A report on the appeal is
available at <http://www.entlawdigest.com/story.cfm?storyID=3094>.
6.4 What's going on with J. K. Rowling suing Steve Vander Ark?
The lawsuit in question was actually filed by Warner Brothers against
RDR Books, which was about to publish a print version of a subset of
the Harry Potter Lexicon site. The suit appears to have been triggered
by RDR's refusal to provide an advance copy to Rowling's representatives
so they could check it for intellectual property infringements. WB filed
the suit because it owns most of the potentially infringed-upon
property.
Currently, a temporary order prohibits the Lexicon book from being
published. A hearing is scheduled for March 13th to determine if a
preliminary injunction will be issued to continue to prohibit it. No
trial date has been set, nor is it absolutely certain that there will be
one.
All legal filings in the case are available as PDFs at:
<http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/new-york/nysdce/1:2007cv09667/315790/>
(Warning: what follows is a hugely simplified overview of some very
complex legal issues.)
There are two types of infringement alleged in the suit: trademarks and
copyrights.
Under US law, trademarks are subject to "abandonment"-- if the holder
does not attack every instance of misuse, it can be ruled that the
trademark is no longer protected. For misuse to be shown, WB needs to
convince the court that the Lexicon book is confusing or misleading the
public into believing that it is an official publication of WB or
Rowling.
For copyright purposes, the Lexicon is considered a derivative work
which would fall under the control of the original copyright holder. US
law allows exceptions for parody and criticism. The Lexicon book is
being defended as an allowed work of criticism.
Copyrights are not subject to abandonment, so selective enforcement
against the book but not the Web site-- Rowling says she has no problem
with the site continuing to exist-- does not technically hurt the case
against the book. However, if, as has been reported, the book is a
condensed version of the Web site, it may be difficult for a ruling on
one to avoid applying equally to the other.
6.5 Did you just say Rowling doesn't actually own Harry Potter?
The latest Bloomsbury and Scholastic copyright notices state that Warner
Brothers owns the Harry Potter characters, trademarks, book art, and
just about all other intellectual property associated with the series.
Rowling owns the text and some control over publishing rights.
7. GATHERINGS
7.1 What are some upcoming Harry Potter-related events?
July 10-13, 2008: Portus 2008, Dallas, Texas. Symposium by HP Education
Fanon, Inc. (an offshoot of The Leaky Cauldron). Web site:
<http://portus2008.org/>.
July 25-27, 2008: Accio 2008, Magdalen College, Oxford, UK. Academic
conference. Web site: <http://www.accio.org.uk/>.
August 7-11, 2008: Terminus, Chicago, Illinois. Conference run by
Narrate Conferences, Inc. (same organization that ran Phoenix Rising).
Web site: <http://www.terminus2008.org/>.
Summer 2009: Level Two, San Jose, California. Run by HP Education Fanon,
Inc.
Summer 2010: Infinitus 2010, Orlando, Florida. Run by HP Education
Fanon, Inc.
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8. THE RESTRICTED SECTION
8.1 Is there a FAQ which covers the most frequently proposed theories,
which you have been dying to tell me about but held back until now
because it contains a lot of spoilers?
8.2 Why does James Potter appear before Lily in GoF?
8.3 Is Sirius really dead?
8.4 Does it say that Voldemort/Tom Riddle dies at the beginning of GoF?
8.5 Why couldn't Harry see thestrals before when he'd already witnessed
his parents' deaths?
8.6 How could the Sorting Hat possibly consider putting Harry in
Slytherin if he isn't a pureblood?
8.7 Did Lucius Malfoy really try to AK Harry at the end of CoS??
8.8 Who are the heads of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw?
8.9 What houses were Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, and Peter Pettigrew in?
8.10 How did Harry get the Marauder's Map back at the end of GoF?
8.11 What else did everyone do after the war?
8.12 Why was there no portrait of Snape in the Headmaster's office near
the end of DH?
8.13 Where were all the pieces of Voldemort's soul?
8.14 How did Harry survive the Killing Curse in the Forbidden Forest?
8.15 What was the thing in King's Cross Station near the end of DH?
8.16 What, in general, was going on with the Elder Wand?
8.1 Is there a FAQ which covers the most frequently proposed theories,
which you have been dying to tell me about but held back until now
because it contains a lot of spoilers?
Yes! Check out the Potterverse FAQ, archived at
<http://www.hogwartslibrary.net/ref/potterverse_faq.html>, which also
includes answers to a lot of slightly less frequently asked questions
that you may want to know.
8.2 Why does James Potter appear before Lily in GoF?
This is an error in the first edition. Since Lily was killed after
James, she should appear first, and does in later printings. Part of the
reason for the relaxed schedule for the fifth book was to avoid mistakes
like this.
8.3 Is Sirius really dead?
Yes. He is no more. He has ceased to be. He is an ex-Sirius.
8.4 Does it say that Voldemort/Tom Riddle dies at the beginning of GoF?
The three Riddles killed at the Riddle house are Tom Riddle *senior*--
Voldemort's Muggle father-- and Tom Riddle Sr.'s mother and father.
8.5 Why couldn't Harry see thestrals before when he'd already been
present at his parents' deaths?
Rowling's explanation is that it doesn't count to have seen death unless
you understand what you've seen, which wasn't true for Harry until he'd
seen Cedric die and had some time to think it over. The carriages were
still "horseless" when he was going back to the train station at the end
of GoF because it hadn't really sunk in yet.
8.6 How could the Sorting Hat possibly consider putting Harry in
Slytherin if he isn't a pureblood?
Salazar Slytherin may have held to the pureblood idea, but it's Godric
Gryffindor's hat, and not constrained by that requirement. You may
recall that it previously put Tom Riddle Jr., a half-blood, into
Slytherin.
8.7 Did Lucius Malfoy really try to AK Harry at the end of CoS??
The book says simply that "he lunged at Harry", so for purposes of
canon, probably not. As for the movie, some people hear Malfoy saying
"Avada", but some hear "Vada", "Vera", or something along those lines.
Closed captioning differs from region to region. The only person who can
give us a definitive answer is Jason Isaacs. If you get a chance to ask
him about this, please let us know what he says.
8.8 Who are the heads of Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw?
Professor Sprout is the head of Hufflepuff; Professor Flitwick is the
head of Ravenclaw.
8.9 What houses were Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, and Peter Pettigrew in?
They were all Gryffindors.
8.10 How did Harry get the Marauder's Map back at the end of GoF?
Rowling said in her 2004 World Book Day online chat that Harry just
retrieved it from the fake Moody's office when all the excitement was
over.
8.11 What else did everyone do after the war?
Harry became the head Auror, assisting the new Minister of Magic,
Kingsley Shacklebolt.
Hermione joined the Department for Regulation and Control of Magical
Creatures where she was instrumental in greatly improving life for
house-elves. She then moved to the Department of Magical Law Enforcement
where she was a progressive voice who worked to repeal oppressive, pro-
pureblood laws.
Ron took Fred's place at Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes.
Ginny played with the Holyhead Harpies for a few years, then retired to
start her family with Harry and be the Daily Prophet's Quidditch
correspondent.
Luna became a famous naturalist, and later in life would marry fellow
naturalist Rolf Scamander, the grandson of Newt. She kept an open mind,
but did eventually accept that there were no Crumple-Horned Snorkacks.
Percy returned to the Ministry.
George also married, and named his first child Fred.
8.12 Why was there no portrait of Snape in the Headmaster's office near
the end of DH?
Because he abandoned his post as Headmaster. However, Harry later
arranged for a portrait to be made and placed there.
8.13 Where were all the pieces of Voldemort's soul?
1. Tom Riddle's diary, made a Horcrux when he killed Moaning Myrtle.
2. Helga Hufflepuff's cup, when he killed Hepzibah Smith for it.
3. Salazar Slytherin's locket, when he killed a Muggle tramp.
4. Cadmus Peverell's ring, when he killed Tom Riddle senior.
5. Rowena Ravenclaw's diadem, when he killed an Albanian peasant.
6. Harry's scar, when he tried to kill Harry. (Debate continues as to
whether this counts as a Horcrux.)
7. Nagini, when he killed Bertha Jorkins.
The precise order of 2-5 is not clear. And yes, this means Voldemort
split his soul into eight pieces, not the seven he intended.
8.14 How did Harry survive the Killing Curse in the Forbidden Forest?
It killed the piece of Voldemort's soul that had been embedded in him.
He had the choice to return because of his blood tie to the part of
Voldemort that was still living, but another curse would probably have
killed Harry directly.
8.15 What was the thing in King's Cross Station near the end of DH?
The one-eighth of Voldemort's soul that had just been killed.
8.16 What, in general, was going on with the Elder Wand?
Albus Dumbledore became master of the Elder Wand when he defeated
Gellert Grindelwald. When Snape killed Dumbledore, that led Voldemort
to believe that now Snape was the master of the wand. Snape duly
surrendered the wand to Voldemort. It did not work as well as Voldemort
expected, leading him to believe that the wand had not yet surrendered
its allegiance to Snape. Thus Voldemort killed Snape, to give himself
complete mastery of the wand.
In fact, Snape was never the master of the wand. Draco first defeated
Dumbledore by disarming him (as Dumbledore pointed out at great length
before he was killed). This made Draco the master of the Elder Wand.
Harry then defeated Draco at Malfoy Manor.
So when Voldemort faced Harry at the very end, Harry was the true master
of the Elder Wand. That was what gave Harry the upper hand, allowing his
spell to ricochet Voldemort's Killing Curse back at him.
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BubblyBabs
>
> a.f.h-p, afh-p, afhp, AFH-P, AFHP - alt.fan.harry-potter
> AK - Avada Kedavra
> CoS, COS - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
> D - Dumbledore
I think DD should also be added for Dumbledore..
And I don't agree with this:
8.15 What was the thing in King's Cross Station near the end of DH?
The one-eighth of Voldemort's soul that had just been killed.
I feel it was the remaining tidbit of soul left "alive" that returned to his
body when both V and Harry went back to life... Harry states that he saw
what V would become if he did not repent....
Babs
santosh
If it was that remaining tidbit then Voldemort would've experienced that
King's Cross scene. As such he gave no indication that he experienced
anything similar to Harry when they were both out cold. I think it
_was_ the soul bit which had previously been lodged inside Harry, now
in it's wretched after-life. I think the baby shape is also a clue
since that soul-bit went into Harry when he was a baby. Harry just
assumed (and rightly I think) that the final tidbit in Voldemort's body
would also meet a similar fate in after-life if the latter did not
repent.
santosh
On further thought I think you may be right with your analysis. I'm
probably overcomplicating it.
BubblyBabs
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DD says the V soulbit in Harry was destroyed... I think V's soulbit within
himself is so fragmented that he was unable to recall what happened when it
was removed from its body and then returned - maybe it couldn't handle the
shock of the transport or something...
Babs
santosh
Also since it took the "form" of an infant, the soul-bit (or V I
suppose) couldn't have really comprehended what was happening to it.
Obviously it was in some kind of acute distress and V might have been
confused enough to assume (after they came back to their bodies) that
it was something to do with the failed AK. In any case he was shocked
when Harry later told him that he had seen what he would become after
his death and I think that he had some idea at that point, but of
course, he was just too arrogant and caught-up too far in his own
darkness to take serious heed of what he had experienced in the forest
clearing or the warning by Harry. He just never believed he could
possibly die at the hands of a mere boy.
In reality Harry was more akin to an "instrument" (albeit a brave and
willing one) in the battle against V and his eventual downfall. The
main architects of the whole show were Lily, Dumbledore and Snape.
Harry was their medium simply because the Prophecy dictated it. So V
was all along up against some pretty powerful individuals and magic
without realising it at all. He only saw the poor little unskilled boy.
Toon
wrote:
>BubblyBabs wrote:
>
>>> 1.3 What do these abbreviations mean?
>>>
>>> a.f.h-p, afh-p, afhp, AFH-P, AFHP - alt.fan.harry-potter
>>> AK - Avada Kedavra
>>> CoS, COS - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
>>> D - Dumbledore
>>
>> I think DD should also be added for Dumbledore..
>>
>> And I don't agree with this:
>> 8.15 What was the thing in King's Cross Station near the end of DH?
>>
>> The one-eighth of Voldemort's soul that had just been killed.
>>
>> I feel it was the remaining tidbit of soul left "alive" that returned
>> to his
>> body when both V and Harry went back to life... Harry states that he
>> saw what V would become if he did not repent....
>
>If it was that remaining tidbit then Voldemort would've experienced that
>King's Cross scene. As such he gave no indication that he experienced
>anything similar to Harry when they were both out cold.
Who's to say he could even remember it? He might have blocked it. Or,
there's not enough left to remember, especially being a baby thing and
all.
> I think it
>_was_ the soul bit which had previously been lodged inside Harry, now
>in it's wretched after-life. I think the baby shape is also a clue
>since that soul-bit went into Harry when he was a baby. Harry just
>assumed (and rightly I think) that the final tidbit in Voldemort's body
>would also meet a similar fate in after-life if the latter did not
>repent.
I'm pretty sure it was what was left of the Master Soul. The Soul Bit
wouldn't look like a baby. Both Harry and Voldemort fell down, so
it's not to hard to imagine both souls were there.
BubblyBabs
makes the final decision?
Babs
Petrea Mitchell
BubblyBabs <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> strode forth and proclaimed:
> > D - Dumbledore
>
> I think DD should also be added for Dumbledore..
So it should. It'll be in the next posting.
(Sorry to get to this so late, been sick yet again. Although there is
a bit of progress on figuring out *why* this keeps happening...)
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Petrea Mitchell
BubblyBabs <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> strode forth and proclaimed:
> I think the FAQ 8.15 needs to be changed... Is it going to be done? Who
> makes the final decision?
Group consensus, or a quote from Rowling. I'll take out "one-eighth" and
substitute "destroyed" for "killed", but I'm fairly sure Rowling said it
was the piece that had been in Harry.
(pause for research)
Tell you what, Rowling's got an answer for this on her site, which
doesn't address everything being argued over, but at least it's official,
so how about I just quote this?
"I've been asked this a LOT. It is the last piece of soul Voldemort
possesses. When Voldemort attacks Harry, they both fall temporarily
unconscious, and both their souls - Harry's undamaged and healthy,
Voldemort's stunted and maimed - appear in the limbo where Harry meets
Dumbledore."
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Orson Wells as CitizenCain
"Petrea Mitchell" <pr...@dylath-leen.bidalaka.com> wrote in message
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> At Thu, 29 May 2008 02:57:32 -0500,
> BubblyBabs <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> strode forth and proclaimed:
>
>> > D - Dumbledore
>>
>> I think DD should also be added for Dumbledore..
>
> So it should. It'll be in the next posting.
>
> (Sorry to get to this so late, been sick yet again. Although there is
> a bit of progress on figuring out *why* this keeps happening...)
>
I think PP should also be added for Lou Loo
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
> At Sat, 31 May 2008 07:09:50 -0500,
> BubblyBabs <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> strode forth and proclaimed:
>
>> I think the FAQ 8.15 needs to be changed... Is it going to be done? Who
>> makes the final decision?
>
> Group consensus, or a quote from Rowling. I'll take out "one-eighth" and
> substitute "destroyed" for "killed", but I'm fairly sure Rowling said it
> was the piece that had been in Harry.
>
> (pause for research)
>
> Tell you what, Rowling's got an answer for this on her site, which
> doesn't address everything being argued over, but at least it's official,
> so how about I just quote this?
>
> "I've been asked this a LOT. It is the last piece of soul Voldemort
> possesses. When Voldemort attacks Harry, they both fall temporarily
> unconscious, and both their souls - Harry's undamaged and healthy,
> Voldemort's stunted and maimed - appear in the limbo where Harry meets
> Dumbledore."
>
THAT'S A SPOILER YOU CRAZY BITCH
GEEEZ
BubblyBabs
"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalid> wrote in message
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Intelligent people don't need to resort to that kind of language...
Babs
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
"BubblyBabs" <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> wrote in message
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Actually intelligent people do it all the time. Bitch.
And just for fun:
Shit cunt ass cocksucker motherfucker cock fuck fuck fuck god damn hell slut
whore. Piss! In my ass! Shit balls!
>
BubblyBabs
<SNIP>
>>>
>>> THAT'S A SPOILER YOU CRAZY B
>>>
>>> GEEEZ
>>
>> Intelligent people don't need to resort to that kind of language...
>> Babs
>
> Actually intelligent people do it all the time. B
>
>
> Sh cu as cosu motherfu co fu fu fu god da he sl
> who. Pi! In my as! Sh ba!
Whew! You must be exhausted after having to think up and then type out all
those big words! You deserve a rest...
*rolls eyes*
Babs
Oh, sorry to the other NG's, I didn't realize this was being cross-posted
when I first replied...
DaveD
> At Thu, 29 May 2008 02:57:32 -0500,
> BubblyBabs <ng_at_fracta...@ng.com> strode forth and proclaimed:
>
>> > D - Dumbledore
>>
>> I think DD should also be added for Dumbledore..
>
> So it should. It'll be in the next posting.
>
> (Sorry to get to this so late, been sick yet again. Although there is
> a bit of progress on figuring out *why* this keeps happening...)
Sorry to hear that - I hope the progress is towards good news :)
> --
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> Petrea Mitchell <|> <|> <pr...@m5p.com> <mit...@osm.com>
And thank you for your continuing work on the FAQ!
DaveD
Orson Wells as CitizenCain
"BubblyBabs" <ng_at_fractal...@ng.com> wrote in message
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Someone's a bit sensitive about naughty words? How god damn fucking shit ass
cunt piss cocksucker motherfucker bitch whore slut pussy dick nigger ass
fuck shit fuck tits sad.
BubblyBabs
"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalid> wrote in message
>
> "BubblyBabs" <ng_at_fractal...@ng.com> wrote in message
> news:eMtak.18173$PZ6....@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>>>>
>>>>> THAT'S A SPOILER YOU CRAZY B
>>>>>
>>>>> GEEEZ
>>>>
>>>> Intelligent people don't need to resort to that kind of language...
>>>> Babs
>>>
>>> Actually intelligent people do it all the time. B
>>>
>>> And just for fun:
>>>
>>> Sh cu as cosu motherfu co fu fu fu god da he sl
>>> who. Pi! In my as! Sh ba!
>>
>> Whew! You must be exhausted after having to think up and then type out
>> all those big words! You deserve a rest...
>> *rolls eyes*
>>
>> Babs
>> Oh, sorry to the other NG's, I didn't realize this was being cross-posted
>> when I first replied...
>
> cosucr motrfuc bit who slpus di nig as fu sh fu ti s.
Tis almost funny how childish you are... Now, let me give you a
challenge... Give me some of those naughty words in other languages...
Babs
Petrea Mitchell
DaveD <dav...@deletethisbitblueyonder.co.uk> strode forth and proclaimed:
>
> "Petrea Mitchell" <pr...@dylath-leen.bidalaka.com> wrote in message
> news:UO6dnTLlP-4DRPrV...@posted.easystreetonline...
> > (Sorry to get to this so late, been sick yet again. Although there is
> > a bit of progress on figuring out *why* this keeps happening...)
>
> Sorry to hear that - I hope the progress is towards good news :)
Well, we keep adding to the list of medical conditions I don't have, so
in that sense it's been nothing but good news. :-)
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