Ron and Hermione
Joshua Migdal
Hermione's burgeoning relationship? She dropped enough hints during GoF. But
then again, she likes to twist things around so you don't expect what she
wants you to. Hermione will probably end up falling in love with Neville's
toad, who ends up being some guy briefly mentioned in SS ;-)
Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is interested in
Hermione (14)? Eww..
josh
Shadow
"Joshua Migdal" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody else very interested in where Rowling is going to go with Ron and
> Hermione's burgeoning relationship?
I'll be very surprised if they aren't married with 8 kids by the end of
their seventh year at Hogwarts. The sexual tension between them can be cut
with a knife.
> She dropped enough hints during GoF. But
> then again, she likes to twist things around so you don't expect what she
> wants you to.
Nah... Ron and Hermione will eventually get witchy wit' it. Mark my words.
And I'm not talking about them getting caught doing the nasty in some
stairwell - this is still a wholesome story....
> Hermione will probably end up falling in love with Neville's
> toad, who ends up being some guy briefly mentioned in SS ;-)
I'm more concerned about her falling too madly in love with herself,
personally....
> Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is interested
in
> Hermione (14)? Eww..
I'd be more disturbed if she was interested back, but if you notice she
wasn't too gung ho about seeing him over the summer. She wants the Ronster.
She's quite warm for his form, if you please (and vice versa if the headless
Krum action figure is any indication).
I'm predicting two marriages (at LEAST) by the time all is said and done:
It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley and Harry and Ginny Potter. You bring
the rice, I'll bring the champagne.
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Joshua Migdal
> It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley and Harry and Ginny Potter. You
bring
> the rice, I'll bring the champagne.
> --
> Shadow
> When's Book 5 out? See FAQ at:
> http://www.geocities.com/hpnewsgroup/faqfdq.htm
>
>
>
Nah, I don't think so! Ginny? Harry's all about Cho. And with Cedric, ahem,
out of the picture, she will need some comforting. Who better to fill that
lonesome void in her heart than our own Mr. Potter?
The Fabulous Disney Babe
Ron and Hermione Granger-Weasley, I'd bet.
>and Harry and Ginny Potter.
Only if he and Cho adopt her.
Fab
http://www.laughingplace.com
One thing that I do find fascinating is Quidditch, the sport of Harry Potter,
the sport of wizards. It seems just about the greatest sport ever invented,
better even than NASCAR. ~Joe Posnanski
Shadow
> > I'm predicting two marriages (at LEAST) by the time all is said and
done:
> > It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley and Harry and Ginny Potter. You
> bring
> > the rice, I'll bring the champagne.
> > --
> > Shadow
> > When's Book 5 out? See FAQ at:
> > http://www.geocities.com/hpnewsgroup/faqfdq.htm
> >
> >
> >
>
> Nah, I don't think so! Ginny? Harry's all about Cho.
Cho? Pfah! Schoolboy crush. I've always predicted a "damsel in distress"
situation between Harry and Ginny that leads to looooove!
And with Cedric, ahem,
> out of the picture, she will need some comforting.
From the person she thinks might be an incy wincy bit responsible for
Cedric's death? Come on, this isn't Harry Potter 90210.
Shadow
"The Fabulous Disney Babe" <dscve...@aol.comFabulous> wrote in message
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> >It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley
>
> Ron and Hermione Granger-Weasley, I'd bet.
>
> >and Harry and Ginny Potter.
>
> Only if he and Cho adopt her.
I can't believe you all think that CHo's still going to want him.... Do I
have to make another book-eating pact?*
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*I've already agreed to eat any book that reveals Dumbledore to be evil... I
guess I have a lust for roughage.
gjw
<no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Anybody else very interested in where Rowling is going to go with Ron and
>Hermione's burgeoning relationship? She dropped enough hints during GoF. But
>then again, she likes to twist things around so you don't expect what she
>wants you to. Hermione will probably end up falling in love with Neville's
>toad, who ends up being some guy briefly mentioned in SS ;-)
I always suspected that Rowling planned to get Harry and Hermione
together. I was surprised when she put Ron & Hermione together instead
in GOF. I now suspect that she is setting us up a triangle/rivalry
situation in which both Ron and Harry are attracted to Hermione.
RCLOVELY
>and
>>Hermione's burgeoning relationship?
Hermonie and Ron will probably end up together, but Victor Krum is better for
her. He is not only a great athlete, but just as smart as her, (he was picked
by the goblet to be his school champion), and works just as hard (he spent most
of his time in the library too).
Ginny and Neville
Fleur and Bill Weasley
Harry and Gabrielle, Fleur's little sister
RC
Terry Eden
> Anybody else very interested in where Rowling is going to go with Ron and
> Hermione's burgeoning relationship?
Classic JKR bluff. Hermione [in book 5 or 6] will begin a relationship
with Draco. I'm not quite sure how they'll get together... She might be
asked to tutor him and he'll gain a grudging respect for her charms (punne
intended, gentle reader) or, in typical teenaged fashion, he'll begin to
question his father's way of thinking.
This will all get very messy, not least when Ron finds out.
I'm not sure if Draco will change his evil way, even when he realises what
evil he and his father have done... but it will be interesting to watch him
develop; I thought he was criminally underused in the film.
> Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is interested
in
> Hermione (14)? Eww..
Some 14 year old girls can be (physically and mentally) very mature. I
think, as a brilliant wizard, Krum is slightly more interested in her mind
than her body (although from the description of her at the ball.... :-) )
Terry
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"Shadow" <NOmst3k...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I can't believe you all think that CHo's still going to want him....
Do I
> have to make another book-eating pact?*
> --
> Shadow
> When's Book 5 out? See FAQ at:
> http://www.geocities.com/hpnewsgroup/faqfdq.htm
>
> *I've already agreed to eat any book that reveals Dumbledore to be
evil... I
> guess I have a lust for roughage.
It's not all of us, Shadow. I feel the same way you do about Cho.
Harry was there when her boyfriend got killed. That's not something
she's likely to forget any time soon.
I'm no fan of the Harry/Ginny thing, either. She has a schoolgirl
crush on a famous wizard, nothing more.
Susan Bones, OTOH, was the only minor character sorted in the film.
Idle speculation in the absence of any other evidence makes me wonder
if she could be the one. Then I go find something more important to
worry about, like whether Ron could whip Draco at chess.
--
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unte...@lycos.com
http://unterhund.8m.com
Shadow
> crush on a famous wizard, nothing more.
At the moment. Yes, I'd agree with that... but come on.... teenagers,
puberty..... they go home at the end of term and come back to school and
realize how each-other has "grown" over the summer... sparks start
flying.... you know the rest. Trust me on this one. It's about as clear as
day.
>
> Susan Bones, OTOH, was the only minor character sorted in the film.
> Idle speculation in the absence of any other evidence makes me wonder
> if she could be the one. Then I go find something more important to
> worry about, like whether Ron could whip Draco at chess.
Draco couldn't whip a slug with a troll's club. He's about the biggest
wussy-boy who ever set foot in Hogwarts.
Joseph Romagnano
[snip]
> Susan Bones, OTOH, was the only minor character sorted in the film.
> Idle speculation in the absence of any other evidence makes me wonder
> if she could be the one. Then I go find something more important to
> worry about, like whether Ron could whip Draco at chess.
> --
> Patrick Clark
> unte...@lycos.com
> http://unterhund.8m.com
>
>
Although I must admit I'm rather partial to the Harry/Ginny thing I do
think you might have a good prophecy there for Ms. Bones, Pat (may I
call you Pat?). I wonder how it would start? Perhaps just a casual
bumping into each other in the hall on the way to class or so?
Yes. Ron can probably whip Draco into a little smudge of goo at chess.
He did, after all, beat McGonagall's chess set.
Joe :-)>
Fridgepixi
I agree. I do think we could see a romantic rivalry between Harry and Malfoy at
some point, but obviously not over Ginny. Malfoy would never find her worthy of
his affections.It would probably be somebody like Cho, but then eventually
Harry would get over her and get into Ginny.
From a literary-meaningfulness perspective, there is one compelling reason
for Harry to marry Ginny. It would effectively make him a member of the Weasley
clan, the closest thing to a real family this poor orphan boy has ever had. He
feels very strongly for the Weasleys and he would be marrying into the fold and
essentially becoming Ron's brother. And if Ron married Hermione, all 3 friends
would be a part of the large family together. What do you think? ~pixi
Shadow
"Fridgepixi" <fridg...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley and Harry and Ginny Potter.
>
> I agree. I do think we could see a romantic rivalry between Harry and
Malfoy at
> some point, but obviously not over Ginny. Malfoy would never find her
worthy of
> his affections.It would probably be somebody like Cho, but then eventually
> Harry would get over her and get into Ginny.
Interesting choice of words. A Freudian slip, perhaps?
> From a literary-meaningfulness perspective, there is one compelling
reason
> for Harry to marry Ginny. It would effectively make him a member of the
Weasley
> clan, the closest thing to a real family this poor orphan boy has ever
had. He
> feels very strongly for the Weasleys and he would be marrying into the
fold and
> essentially becoming Ron's brother. And if Ron married Hermione, all 3
friends
> would be a part of the large family together. What do you think? ~pixi
It does have all the elements necessary for the classic fairy tale ending
of, "...and they lived happily ever after." If this truly is a modern fairy
tale, the outcome will be close to that.
Some One Else
I think you're right on both counts, but I bet Harry will spend at least
one book chasing after Cho. I still like the 'Harry goes to China' concept.
Maybe gets tricked into a second match with his dragon friend. "Harry
Potter and the really p-o'd dragon"
Pluto (M)
While i'd admit that Cho'd be cool, it's too obvious. Rowling's not that
blatant... except about Ron and Hermione ;) Never with the main character
though. Harry might hook up with Cho for a while, but it'd be temporary :D
Pluto (M)
>
> I agree. I do think we could see a romantic rivalry between Harry and Malfoy
at
> some point, but obviously not over Ginny. Malfoy would never find her worthy
of
> his affections.
<snippity doo-dah, snippity day>
Aaactually, I dunno. I could see it happening. After all, Malfoy's prejudice is
only there because his father is a jackass. People /can/ throw things like that
off, though it is rare. I wouldn't put it past Rowling to have Malfoy fall in
love with Ginny and, in the end, have him be the turning point in the battle
with Voldie ;)
How does any of that relate to a romantic rivalry between Malfoy and Harry?
Because they'd have it out of principle, that's why ;)
Chris Share
(jrd...@charter.net) said...
>unterhund wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> Susan Bones, OTOH, was the only minor character sorted in the film.
>> Idle speculation in the absence of any other evidence makes me wonder
>> if she could be the one. Then I go find something more important to
>> worry about, like whether Ron could whip Draco at chess.
>> --
>> Patrick Clark
>> unte...@lycos.com
>> http://unterhund.8m.com
>>
>>
>
>
>Although I must admit I'm rather partial to the Harry/Ginny thing I do
>think you might have a good prophecy there for Ms. Bones, Pat (may I
>call you Pat?). I wonder how it would start? Perhaps just a casual
>bumping into each other in the hall on the way to class or so?
>
I still say Harry+Ginny... but yes, the Susan Bones theory is a good
one to throw around while waiting for OoP...
Maybe they have some lesson or other with the Hufflepuffs next year?
Could be anything at all really... just looked (etexts DO have their
uses) and the only mention of Susan Bones is in the sorting... and the
bit where Hagrid says:
"No one ever lived after
he decided ter kill 'em, no one except you, an' he'd killed some o' the
best witches an' wizards of the age -- the McKinnons, the Bones, the
Prewetts -- an' you was only a baby, an' you lived."
So it appears the Bones were quite good wizards, maybe that's got
something to do with it. Advanced DADA classes anyone? (blatantly
nicking an idea from some fanfic or other)
chris
Joseph Romagnano
[snip]
> I still say Harry+Ginny... but yes, the Susan Bones theory is a good
> one to throw around while waiting for OoP...
>
> Maybe they have some lesson or other with the Hufflepuffs next year?
> Could be anything at all really... just looked (etexts DO have their
> uses) and the only mention of Susan Bones is in the sorting... and the
> bit where Hagrid says:
> "No one ever lived after
> he decided ter kill 'em, no one except you, an' he'd killed some o' the
> best witches an' wizards of the age -- the McKinnons, the Bones, the
> Prewetts -- an' you was only a baby, an' you lived."
> So it appears the Bones were quite good wizards, maybe that's got
> something to do with it. Advanced DADA classes anyone? (blatantly
> nicking an idea from some fanfic or other)
>
> chris
>
It would be very interesting to see if that happens. Although, how far
behind in DADA are the students? I assume they got a decent education
first year but that 2nd year, just terrible. But then you've got
Lupin... hmmmm. I'm going to have to let that stew for awhile.
Perhaps Susan Bones will turn up in the Herbology lesson?
Joe :-)>
Frank White
no...@nowhere.com says...
>
>Anybody else very interested in where Rowling is going to go with Ron
and
>Hermione's burgeoning relationship? She dropped enough hints during GoF.
But
>then again, she likes to twist things around so you don't expect what
she
>wants you to. Hermione will probably end up falling in love with
Neville's
>toad, who ends up being some guy briefly mentioned in SS ;-)
Ick.
>Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is
interested in
>Hermione (14)? Eww..
In Sailor Moon, Mamoru/Darien is about that age - maybe 19 -
and is interested in/bound for all eternity to Usagi/Serena,
who's 14 and acts it.
These things happen.
FW
Chris Share
(jrd...@charter.net) said...
>Chris Share wrote:
>[snip]
>> Maybe they have some lesson or other with the Hufflepuffs next year?
>> Could be anything at all really... just looked (etexts DO have their
>> uses) and the only mention of Susan Bones is in the sorting... and the
>> bit where Hagrid says:
>> "No one ever lived after
>> he decided ter kill 'em, no one except you, an' he'd killed some o' the
>> best witches an' wizards of the age -- the McKinnons, the Bones, the
>> Prewetts -- an' you was only a baby, an' you lived."
>> So it appears the Bones were quite good wizards, maybe that's got
>> something to do with it. Advanced DADA classes anyone? (blatantly
>> nicking an idea from some fanfic or other)
>>
>> chris
>
>It would be very interesting to see if that happens. Although, how far
>behind in DADA are the students? I assume they got a decent education
>first year but that 2nd year, just terrible. But then you've got
>Lupin... hmmmm. I'm going to have to let that stew for awhile.
I don't mean that as in catch-up, I mean extra hard stuff. Not for
everyone, but HHR have had plenty of practice, and some others too.
Harry's done stuff way beyond the level they're being taught at - the
Patronus springs to mind - and he can't be the only one to do stuff
like that.
>Perhaps Susan Bones will turn up in the Herbology lesson?
>
>Joe :-)>
Quite possibly...
chris
Joseph Romagnano
[snip]
>
> I don't mean that as in catch-up, I mean extra hard stuff. Not for
> everyone, but HHR have had plenty of practice, and some others too.
> Harry's done stuff way beyond the level they're being taught at - the
> Patronus springs to mind - and he can't be the only one to do stuff
> like that.
>
>
Oh I know that's what you meant. What I was thinking, guess it didn't
come out right, was that although HRH have indeed done some advanced
stuff they may still be missing out on some more basic, general, stuff.
Granted, nothing immediately springs to mind since we didn't see -every-
single lesson they had, I just can't help thinking that their
foundations in the the defense may be missing a few blocks.
Joe :-)>
>
Joseph Romagnano
Cedric Diggory isn't as smart as Hermione yet he was chosen as school
champion. Also, he admits that he spent all of that time in the library
for one reason, to meet Hermione.
Joe :-)>
RCLOVELY
>champion.
Nobody is as smart as Hermonie! Besides, how much do we know about Cedric
except he was a nice person, was very good looking, and must have been one
h#@l of a good wizard to be chozen as Hogwarts champion!
RC
Joseph Romagnano
Yet in your previous post you asserted that Viktor Krum was just as
smart as Hermione, indeed better for her than Ron, and cited that he was
chosen as school champion as your justification for why he must be so
smart. Frankly, I don't buy that. Both Cedric and Krum are good wizards
by this time I would hope, given their age, but they are also very
athletic which makes them fit for such a competition as well.
Joe :-)>
Pluto (M)
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I don't see that. Remember: Harry never even considered going out with Hermione.
He wasn't jealous when she went out with Krum, like Ron was. And he was amused
when she freaked Ron out by telling him to ask her earlier next time.
Elizabeth Naime
>Ginny and Neville
>Fleur and Bill Weasley
>Harry and Gabrielle, Fleur's little sister
Naah. Fleur and Neville, in a few years when the age difference isn't
as important. Because Neville deserves it, and because no-one would
ever expect it. ;-)
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Terry Eden <T.E...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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Besides, most 4th year students would be 15. I think that Harry is one of
the youngest in his year. The age of consent in Britain is 16, but 12 year
olds wind up pregnant. Rarely.
So...........
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Wasn't Gabrielle, like, seven?
Joshua Migdal
news:9thn8q$1i9n$3...@news.fsr.net...[snip]
> >Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is
> interested in
> >Hermione (14)? Eww..
>
> In Sailor Moon, Mamoru/Darien is about that age - maybe 19 -
> and is interested in/bound for all eternity to Usagi/Serena,
> who's 14 and acts it.
>
> These things happen.
>
> FW
>
That is a terrible analogy to use. Anime is not exactly known for its high
moral character.
josh
Aris Katsaris
"Pluto (M)" <plu...@flash.net> wrote in message
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>
> Aaactually, I dunno. I could see it happening. After all, Malfoy's
prejudice is
> only there because his father is a jackass. People /can/ throw things like
that
> off, though it is rare.
He was gloating happily over the death of an innocent schoolmate. Malfoy is
too far gone into evil to ever come back, IMAO.
Aris Katsaris
Joshua Migdal
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interested
> in
> > Hermione (14)? Eww..
>
> Some 14 year old girls can be (physically and mentally) very mature. I
> think, as a brilliant wizard, Krum is slightly more interested in her mind
> than her body (although from the description of her at the ball.... :-) )
>
> Terry
Let's put this in perspective. To all those in the states, this would be
like a senior in high school dating a junior high school girl. And we all
know hows many 18-year olds are interested in the opposite sex's minds. Like
another poster mentioned, we see events through the eyes of how 14-year olds
would see them. So, if Krum fed Hermione a line, maybe she believed it hook
line and sinker. We would really never know b/c 14 year olds are very
gullible, even smart ones.
Joseph Romagnano
Definitely younger than Ginny that's the impression I had.
Joe :-)>
Caen Sul
That's most likely because Susan Bones was played by the director's daughter,
Eleanor Columbus. =D
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maybe they'll change their tune after a little torture.
i_love_ron
The reason that Susan Bones was shown being sorted was because she was
played by the daughter of Chris Columbus (the director).
I want Ron and hermione to end up together, but I think that after
they have a releationship they will decide to be friends in the end.
As for Harry, I'm not so sure that we will discover his true love.
gjw
wrote:
>"gjw" <g...@example.com> wrote in message
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>> I always suspected that Rowling planned to get Harry and Hermione
>> together. I was surprised when she put Ron & Hermione together instead
>> in GOF. I now suspect that she is setting us up a triangle/rivalry
>> situation in which both Ron and Harry are attracted to Hermione.
>
>I don't see that. Remember: Harry never even considered going out with Hermione.
>He wasn't jealous when she went out with Krum, like Ron was. And he was amused
>when she freaked Ron out by telling him to ask her earlier next time.
But Harry is just barely into puberty. He's barely attracted to girls
at all right now, and naturally he still sees Hermione has his old pal
rather than as a girl. That will probably change as he matures.
Harry definitely notices Hermione has changed at the ball, so he's not
completely blind to her - although he doesn't have the same jealous
reaction as Ron to her dancing with Krum.
Speaking of Krum, another possibility is that Hermione is secretly
attracted to Harry. Krum mentions to Harry that Hermione talks about
him (Harry) all the time - so much so that Krum thinks there is
something between them. Perhaps there is, but perhaps for now it's
one-sided on Hermione's part...
The Fabulous Disney Babe
>situation between Harry and Ginny that leads to looooove!
Nope, from JKR's own lips (it's in the Leaky Cauldron's archives section.)
Neither Harry and Ginny nor Harry and Hermione.
Fab
http://www.laughingplace.com
One thing that I do find fascinating is Quidditch, the sport of Harry Potter,
the sport of wizards. It seems just about the greatest sport ever invented,
better even than NASCAR. ~Joe Posnanski
The Fabulous Disney Babe
>played by the daughter of Chris Columbus (the director).
So there was at least one of us Yanks in the film. Maybe JAB will boycott it
now.
Cyber Scout
Babe says...
>
>>The reason that Susan Bones was shown being sorted was because she was
>>played by the daughter of Chris Columbus (the director).
>
>So there was at least one of us Yanks in the film. Maybe JAB will boycott it
>now.
Stop trolling will you.
Beth Winter
She looked about eight. This could of course mean she was ten and simply
young-looking, but still the age difference would be too much for a romantic
relationship to develop before the end of the series (remember, it's only three more
years...)
--
Beth Winter
The Discworld Compendium <http://go.to/thediscworldcompendium>
"To absent friends, lost loves, old gods and the season of mists."
-- Neil Gaiman
canncer
way J.K.Rowling replied at the following website:
http://www.t35.com/hol/c103.htm
Someone asked : Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron
and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire? I love your
books, by the way, and two of them I've read straight through cover to
cover in under 24 hours.
She replied : Well done on the reading speed! Yes, something's "going
on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy.
Pluto (M)
"Cyber Scout" <cyber...@coooool.co.uk> wrote in message
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What trolling? She's not a troll. She's just making fun of someone. That's not
trollish, just rude ;)
RCLOVELY
>trollish, just rude ;)
>
Oh really, and JAB isn't rude?
RC
Pluto (M)
.... I didn't say that, or anything resembling it. Please explain what you mean.
gjw
>Nope, from JKR's own lips (it's in the Leaky Cauldron's archives section.)
>Neither Harry and Ginny nor Harry and Hermione.
Never heard it before. Could you possibly hunt this one down and post
the quote?
gjw
Ginny DID defend Neville Longbottom when Harry and Ron were making fun
of him before the Yule Ball. And she went with Neville to the ball...
so perhaps those two will end up together. (Then again, she didn't
seem particularly happy on the dance floor. ;)
Lynn
>> she was played by the daughter of Chris Columbus (the director).
>
>So there was at least one of us Yanks in the film. Maybe JAB will
>boycott it now.
Here's a fun little experiment for you. Next time you go see the movie, watch
the background and see just how often little Miss Bones shows up. I've seen
her in a close up during the boats on the lake sequence, behind Hermione going
into the Great Hall for the sorting, behind Ron in potions class (even though
she's a Hufflepuff! 'Course, the movie doesn't seem to differentiate between
the houses in class settings.). And I'm pretty sure I've seen her in one of
the train station scene, but couldn't swear to it.
Anyone got anymore?
Lynn
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> >It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley
>
> Ron and Hermione Granger-Weasley, I'd bet.
I'd bet on her at least TRYING to make him Ron Granger.
tphile
Mrs Hermione Dursley
Its so bloody obvious!
tphile
Pluto (M)
Would you be happy if someone were stepping on your feet? :D
Pluto (M)
"mas7v" <ma...@miindsprung.com> wrote in message
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I'm probably the only guy in the world who'd say this, but: What's the problem
with that? ;)
Rugrat
> Malfoy at some point,
I read that (Twice!) as romantic attachment. That's freaky!
Rugrat
The Fabulous Disney Babe
>it
>>now.
>
>Stop trolling will you.
Trolling is "going into a newsgroup and posting something just to get an angry
response", not "disagreeing with wankers".
The Fabulous Disney Babe
>>
>> I'd bet on her at least TRYING to make him Ron Granger.
>
>I'm probably the only guy in the world who'd say this, but: What's the
>problem
>with that? ;)
No problem at all.
The Fabulous Disney Babe
Oh, all right. Hang on...
Is Harry Potter ever going to fall in love with Hermione or is he going to fall
in love with Ginny Weasley?
In Book IV Harry does decide he likes a girl, but it's not Hermione or Ginny.
However, he's only 14, so there's plenty of time for him to change his mind.
;-)
http://www.t35.com/hol/c101.htm
There. Now, bookmark the-leaky-cauldron.org and you'lll be a much happier
person.
Chris Share
(dscve...@aol.comFabulous) said...
>>>Nope, from JKR's own lips (it's in the Leaky Cauldron's archives section.)
>>>Neither Harry and Ginny nor Harry and Hermione.
>>
>>Never heard it before. Could you possibly hunt this one down and post
>>the quote?
>
>Oh, all right. Hang on...
>
>Is Harry Potter ever going to fall in love with Hermione or is he going to fall
>in love with Ginny Weasley?
>In Book IV Harry does decide he likes a girl, but it's not Hermione or Ginny.
>However, he's only 14, so there's plenty of time for him to change his mind.
>;-)
>
>http://www.t35.com/hol/c101.htm
>
>There. Now, bookmark the-leaky-cauldron.org and you'lll be a much happier
>person.
>
>Fab
Exactly, nothing to say he doesn't get with Ginny later...
Can you seriously see him getting wtih Cho now? He'll be linked with
Cedric's death in her mind... not gonna happen. However in book 2 you
see Ginny understands him more than the rest - "He doesn't want all
that attention" or something to that effect...
chris
Pluto (M)
"The Fabulous Disney Babe" <dscve...@aol.comFabulous> wrote in message
> >> > Ron and Hermione Granger-Weasley, I'd bet.
> >>
> >> I'd bet on her at least TRYING to make him Ron Granger.
> >
> >I'm probably the only guy in the world who'd say this, but: What's the
> >problem
> >with that? ;)
>
> No problem at all.
>
But you're not a dude ;)
Danel
news:Xns9163D6E2EA9D9...@137.205.128.11...
Oh, you should see some of the fanfiction. I'd just tell you to go to
www.fanfiction.net, but there are more HP fanfics there than there are
people in the world(probably) and you'd never find some of the interesting
stuff. You could try, though.
--
Danel
----------------------------
[Steps slowly and carefully away..]
Lisa Hicks
Terry Eden wrote:
>
> "Joshua Migdal" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfc0954$0$3927$b45e...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
(snip)
> > Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is interested
> in
> > Hermione (14)? Eww..
>
> Some 14 year old girls can be (physically and mentally) very mature. I
> think, as a brilliant wizard, Krum is slightly more interested in her mind
> than her body (although from the description of her at the ball.... :-) )
As you note, Hermione is very mature for her age. In addition, Krum is
probably. . . not "immature" in a negative sense, but a little young for
his age, and perhaps a little sheltered. Imagine it: He's been totally
wrapped up in Quidditch training for most of his teen years, his coach
and his headmaster probably keep him on a pretty short leash, and he's
been at Durmstrang where many (if not most) of the kids--both the boys
and the girls--are probably a little "off" due to the Dark Arts
training. Not exactly the ideal situation for finding someone to be
interested in having as a girlfriend. Then he comes to Hogwarts. And
there's this girl who's kinda cute and seems very normal (unlike the
twisted folks he's been with at Durmstrang). So he pays a little bit of
attention to her. And he sees that, in addition to being kinda cute,
she's very smart, outspoken and passionate about what she believes in
(think SPEW), clearly loyal to her friends--not a bad catch. And she's
friends with Harry, for whom Viktor obviously has a lot of respect.
Makes total sense to me that he'd be a little smitten. As for the age
gap (which I think is more like 14-17 than 14-18), it probably never
occurred to him. Once Harry had taken on the Horntail, Krum probably
never thought of him as a kid. Instead, he'd think of Harry as an equal
and would thus look at Harry's friends as equals. So, no, I'm not
creeped out by Viktor's interest in Hermione at all; it works for me.
Lisa H
Buzzk8
>>situation between Harry and Ginny that leads to looooove!
I thought I'd share my sisters thoughts which she expressed in the middle of
the movie "Harry and Ron are so cute, I think they should just get together in
the end. I mean look at them: they're having christmas togther and I can just
see them growing old together" I laughed and told her the fundamentalists just
might explode if that happend. It's funny and actually a cute idea though it
would never happen.
Einstein
writes
>On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:06:53 -0500, "Joshua Migdal"
><no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Anybody else very interested in where Rowling is going to go with Ron and
>>then again, she likes to twist things around so you don't expect what she
>>wants you to. Hermione will probably end up falling in love with Neville's
>>toad, who ends up being some guy briefly mentioned in SS ;-)
>
>
>I always suspected that Rowling planned to get Harry and Hermione
>together. I was surprised when she put Ron & Hermione together instead
>in GOF. I now suspect that she is setting us up a triangle/rivalry
>situation in which both Ron and Harry are attracted to Hermione.
I go for the triangle idea; Certainly, it would prove a most interesting
plot device if romantic issues between the three lead to tensions later
in the series, even to the extent that one of them gets so upset that
they go off in a huff and are taken under the wing of the Secret Hidden
Bad Guy, who proceeds to tempt them towards the Dark Side.
--
Einstein
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Rosie Salas
<NOmst3k...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote:
>Cho? Pfah! Schoolboy crush. I've always predicted a "damsel in distress"
>situation between Harry and Ginny that leads to looooove!
But in some article I've read somewhere JK said that neither Hermione
or Ginny would be Harry's love interest. Who knows?
Deborah
Evenstar
The only quote I've heard from JKR that resembles this, only referred to
book 4. Something along the lines of 'Harry does decide he likes a
girl, but its not Hermione or Ginny'. I think in an interview JKR did
rule out Harry and Hermione getting together, but I don't recall a
permanent ruling out of Ginny.
If anyone can point to an interview where Ginny is ruled out forever I'd
be interested in seeing it...I think JKR will have a problem introducing
a new character, putting her with Harry, and not having her hated. I
didn't even like Cho - don't like the way her name looks on the page
compared with, say, Hermione, Parvati, or even Minerva (and no, I'm not
suggesting McGonagall/Harry! Ugh!). I don't think Cho will be the
one. She is his first crush, it would be silly to have her be the only
one...plus, he will remind her of what happened to Cedric, and she will
probably provoke guilt in him every time he looks at her. Not very
promising.
Vessa
Anna G
Harry/Hermione romance.
From the New York Times: "Ms. Watson [Hermione] has the sass and
smarts to suggest she might cast a spell of her own on Harry in the
coming years and, one supposes, sequels." There were similar comments
in other reviews, but I can't remember which ones.
One gets the impression they haven't read the later books and don't
know what's going on, and neither do their editors.
-Anna
Jens Müller
> One gets the impression they haven't read the later books and don't
> know what's going on, and neither do their editors.
Write a letter to the paper, maybe it gets printed.
Donal Fagan
I don't remember this too clearly, but it was so odd, one reviewer
wrote either that he'd be likely to drop his pencil on the floor so he
could look up Hermione's skirt or that Harry should be thinking about
doing so. I'll have to find that again.
I rather like seeing children act like children, myself.
Donal Fagan
Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com
(Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)
Jens Müller
> I don't remember this too clearly, but it was so odd, one reviewer
> wrote either that he'd be likely to drop his pencil on the floor so he
> could look up Hermione's skirt or that Harry should be thinking about
> doing so.
But her skirt was quite short, wasn't it?
Donal Fagan
>But (Hermione's) skirt was quite short, wasn't it?
I don't recall, actually. Too long and she couldn't ride the broom
properly. Too short and she wouldn't ride it.
gjw
We're only up to book 4. Harry has only shown an interest in girls in
the last book. We have three more books to go, and there's no telling
what sort of relationships might develop.
RCLOVELY
>> wrote either that he'd be likely to drop his pencil on the floor so he
>> could look up Hermione's skirt
That is a sick statement for an adult to make about a 12 year old child.
RC
Kim Bastin
<NOmst3k...@berkshire.rr.com> wrote:
>
>"Joshua Migdal" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:3bfc1610$0$3931$b45e...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>> > I'm predicting two marriages (at LEAST) by the time all is said and
>done:
>> > It's gonna be Ron and Hermione Weasley and Harry and Ginny Potter. You
>> bring
>> > the rice, I'll bring the champagne.
>> > --
>> > Shadow
>> > When's Book 5 out? See FAQ at:
>> > http://www.geocities.com/hpnewsgroup/faqfdq.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Nah, I don't think so! Ginny? Harry's all about Cho.
>
>Cho? Pfah! Schoolboy crush. I've always predicted a "damsel in distress"
>situation between Harry and Ginny that leads to looooove!
It's already happened, and it didn't - not on Harry's part, anyway. I
can't see JKR plotting a repeat.
Kim Bastin
Joseph Romagnano
I'd be fairly confident that the critic meant if he was 12 years old as
well. As a kid, y'know, such things aren't impossible.
Joe :-)>
Joseph Romagnano
IIRC, Harry first really notices Cho in book 3.
Joe :-)>
Ina Blous
>> wrote either that he'd be likely to drop his pencil on the floor so
he
>> could look up Hermione's skirt
>That is a sick statement for an adult to make about a 12 year old
child.
I also think that it's sick. sick sick sick sick sick!
Are these writers writing the articles fromt heir personal experience,
or did they just watched Offspring's 'Origianl Prankester' video too
much?
Now, about yhe relationships- Ron and Hermione are just destienied to
be thogether!!! There are SO many proofs. I don't think that Krum is
the guy for her- so, he's an athelete. So what? And how do u know he's
smart? I bet Karkaroff just picked him cuz he's famous.
And I also think that Ginny and Harry might be together. Why Cho? It's
only a crush.
About Harry and Gabrielle(Gleur's sister)- HUH?!
Isn't she, like...8? And anyway, so let's say she's 10. Why the hell
should Harry be interested at her? He didn't love Fleur, so why her?
And besides he barely knows her.
So, for conclusion-
Hermione and Ron are going to together in the end! (or at least I
think/hope)
Donal Fagan
>I also think that it's sick. sick sick sick sick sick!
Let me track it down and put it in context. I read so many things
over Thanksgiving holiday, I just don't remember where it was.
RCLOVELY
>the guy for her- so, he's an athelete. So what? And how do u know he's
>smart? I bet Karkaroff just picked him cuz he's famous.
Krum was picked by the Goblet of Fire to be the Durmstrang champion, not
Karkaroff.
>About Harry and Gabrielle(Gleur's sister)- HUH?!
Well, I am three years younger than my husband, and my father was ten years
older than my mother!
RC
JoYfu...@webtv.net
>Anyone got anymore?
No more susan bones sightings, just an addition to the list of
"yanks".
Verne Troyer played one of the goblins at Gringotts. And I maybe wrong,
but I think it was one of the main goblins...Griphook, maybe? If not,
then it was the guy at the desk. :)
karin
Chris Share
(JoYfu...@webtv.net) said...
Twas Griphook... I wonderered when the giant laser was going to come in
;)
Oh, and did anyone else think all those mechanical bits in vault 713
looked wrong? I would have thought it would have looked more magical
without... or better still if it had just disappeared, instead of
opening.
chris
Joshua Migdal
(in the sick case of harry and fleur's sister). Much more so than, say, a 30
year old and a 26 year old. 70-somethings and 50-somethings share a more
common maturity and life view than do 18 year olds and 14 year olds (in the
sick case of krum and hermione). There is just way too much of a maturity,
and emotional, gap between the years of being a teenager.
josh
"RCLOVELY" <rclo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Klaus Winkler
<eins...@thesumras.spamshield.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I go for the triangle idea; Certainly, it would prove a most interesting
>plot device if romantic issues between the three lead to tensions later
>in the series, even to the extent that one of them gets so upset that
>they go off in a huff and are taken under the wing of the Secret Hidden
>Bad Guy, who proceeds to tempt them towards the Dark Side.
Nah, that seems to predictable...
Regards
Klaus Winkler
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david e. g. meijer
>There is massive maturity difference between a 14 year old and a 10 year old
>(in the sick case of harry and fleur's sister). Much more so than, say, a 30
>year old and a 26 year old. 70-somethings and 50-somethings share a more
>common maturity and life view than do 18 year olds and 14 year olds (in the
>sick case of krum and hermione). There is just way too much of a maturity,
>and emotional, gap between the years of being a teenager.
>josh
FULL ACK.
though I do live with the 70-50 thing sort of. My mom is 46, my dad
74. and over time, there comes a generation gap.
FriarED
"RCLOVELY" <rclo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Peter Kemp
>
> "Joshua Migdal" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfc0954$0$3927$b45e...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
(snip)
> > Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is
interested
> in
> > Hermione (14)? Eww..
>
> Some 14 year old girls can be (physically and mentally) very mature. I
> think, as a brilliant wizard, Krum is slightly more interested in her mind
> than her body (although from the description of her at the ball.... :-) )
I still remember how difficult life as a 14 year old boy was....all the
girls were going out with those from the sixth form (17/18 year olds). So
nothing strange there, especially as girls do tend to mature emotionally
faster (not always, but in general).
I also remember life as a sixth former :-)
Peter Kemp
unterhund
news:ca4bca0d.01112...@posting.google.com...
> And I also think that Ginny and Harry might be together. Why Cho?
It's
> only a crush.
And Ginny's feelings for Harry aren't?! What makes them so different?
--
Patrick Clark
unte...@lycos.com
http://unterhund.8m.com
RCLOVELY
>(in the sick case of harry and fleur's sister).
I am not talking about a 10 and 14 year old. I am talking about a 24 and 20
year old. Not to much difference there.
RC
RCLOVELY
>"yanks".
My God, one more! JAB will really boycott it now!
RC
gjw
<jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
>IIRC, Harry first really notices Cho in book 3.
Granted. But it was limited to one quick look on the Quidditch field
in that book. The only other times she's mentioned there is as an
opponent, when he's battling her in the skies for the golden snitch.
Joseph Romagnano
Here is the relevant quote:
Cho Chang, was the only girl on their team. She was
shorter than Harry by about a head, and Harry couldn't help noticing,
nervous as he was, that she was extremely pretty. She smiled at Harry as
the teams faced each other behind their captains, and he felt a slight
lurch in the region of his stomach that he didn't think had anything to
do with nerves.
She also makes another small appearance in the book, wishing Harry luck
before the Slytherin match.
These are very subtle cues that Harry is starting to notice the opposite
sex. I can say that I didn't, all of a sudden, just wake up one day and
turn into an incredible womanizer. Quite the contrary, and I would
suspect that most of the men around here went through the same process.
This is part of what makes the "first crush" argument against Cho so
compelling. How many folks do you know end up married to the first girl
they ever noticed? How beleiveable would it have been in GoF if, all of
a sudden, Harry just wanted Cho for no apparent reason? This way, she's
already an established character and we know a little bit about her. We
also know enough about her to make arguments, as I do, that Cho will not
turn out to be the great love of Harry's life. Now, OTOH, I strongly
suspect we would be thinking of Cho as Harry's great love.
Joe :-)>
Ka-Wing Tam
"Peter Kemp" <pk...@iee.org> wrote in message
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> Terry Eden wrote:
> >
> > "Joshua Migdal" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:3bfc0954$0$3927$b45e...@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
>
> (snip)
>
> > > Besides that, anybody else kind of distrubed that Krum (18) is
> interested
> > in
> > > Hermione (14)? Eww..
I dunno... some girls tend to mature rather quickly, while guys at that age
kind of stay rather childish. If you know what I mean. =) A guy friend of
mine, when he was 18, found the company of 14-15 year old girls more
enjoyable than the girls around his age, mostly because he was such a huge
kid that refused to grow up, but also partly because they were more
flattered by his attention.
> > Some 14 year old girls can be (physically and mentally) very mature. I
> > think, as a brilliant wizard, Krum is slightly more interested in her
mind
> > than her body (although from the description of her at the ball....
:-) )
>
> I still remember how difficult life as a 14 year old boy was....all the
> girls were going out with those from the sixth form (17/18 year olds). So
> nothing strange there, especially as girls do tend to mature emotionally
> faster (not always, but in general).
>
> I also remember life as a sixth former :-)
I remember life as a 14-year old girl... =)
=totem=
| "Peter Kemp" <pk...@iee.org>
| I remember life as a 14-year old girl... =)
Gosh, don't go acting like we're... like you're all in the 70s!
And remember, it's NOT "how old are you?" it's "How old are you TODAY?"
I'm only 28.
=t=
Donal Fagan
Nobody Beats the Wizard
The Filming of Harry Potter
by Anthony Lane
Who does not know of Harry Potter, or of his debut, this week, on the
big screen? Anthropologists returning from the Amazon Basin have
whispered excitedly of tiny pre-industrial clans, clustered along
minor tributaries, who have never heard of Harry or of his creator, JK
Rowling, but I think we can dismiss such rumors as patronizing
fantasy.On the other hand, just because all sentient earthlings of
reading age have turned into fanatical potterites, I can see no reason
to humor their insatiable demand that the movie, "Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone" should, before all else, resemble the book. If
Verdi found it in himself to mess about with Shakespeare, then what
the director, Chris Columbus, and his screenwriter, Steve Kloves,
choose to inflict on Ms. Rowling is entirely their affair. The
queation should therefore be: Is this movie faithful to itself? Does
it, like the better make of broomstick, have a life of its own?
The plot is by now Homerically familiar. That Harry (Daniel Radcliffe)
is an orphan goes without saying; it is most impractical, not to
mention distasteful, to enter the canon of English children's
literature without first being purged of one's parents. Harry,
however, is also a wizard, raised by an aunt (Fiona Shaw) and uncle
(Richard Griffiths) who are not only mean and scowling but
irretrievably human. At the age of eleven, he is summoned back to the
company of his peers, to be educated at Hogwarts School. There he
acquires a pair of friends, Hermione (Emma Watson) and Ron (Rupert
Grint), a yellow-haired nemesis by hte name of Draco Malfoy (Tom
Felton), and a full complement of instructors: Dumbledore (Richard
Harris), the beaming headmaster, and his purse-mouthed deputy,
Professor McGonagall (Maggie Smith); Professors Snape (Alan Rickman)
and Quirrell (Ian Hart), expert in the murkier arts; and a giant
called Hagrid (Robbie Coltrane), who is, of course, gentleness itself.
Columbus was right to shoot the movie in England, and to summon the
kind of character actors in which that nation has always specialized;
they are like counties, or provincial parishes, made flesh. His
feeling for voices, though, and for the social positioning of his
characters, seems less than secure, and you sense that some of the
performers are taking the enterprise more lightly than others. Ian
Hart, normally a pointed and militant presence onscreen, is strangely
vague on this occasion - a pity, for his role turns out to be crucial.
Perhaps he loses definition when denied the chance to speak in his
natural accent, just as Maggie Smith, crisply coy with her Scottish
tones, is allowed to veer, a little too close for comfort, toward the
dotage of Miss Jean Brodie. By and large, it is the actors who treat
the conceit of wizardry with the greatest seriousness - like
grandparents levelling calmly with small children, instead of fobbing
them off with fond condescension - who draw nearest to the imaginings
of the author. Particular credit is due John Hurt, who invests his
brief appearance as a purveyor of wands with precisely the right blend
of awe and wit; he knows the tale of Harry's beginnings, and he
signals his concern at what manner of end the boy may have in store.
In short, Hurt shadows an enjoyable picture with fear - a dash of
darkening that does not come again until Alan Rickman strides into his
classroom. Ever since "Die Hard," Rickman has stolen movies as though
under cover of darkness, and he filches this one with a single speech:
"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, and even put a
stopper in death." His Professor Snape is a clear relative of his
Reverend Slope in the BBC adaptation of Trollope; in both cases, he
makes you believe, instantly, in the potency of his own beliefs, and
he never scruples to make the drama watch and wait, as it were, while
he unrolls some tasty phrasing from his tongue. At two and a half
hours, this is not a hurried film, yet it still finds no time to
linger and investigate a mood; there is plenty to dazzle, but
dangerously little to frighten or touch you to the quick. The
Quidditch sequence, for some reason, is filmed at such a cockamamie
speed that we don't really get the chance to follow what's going on;
it reminded me of a George Lucas setup, which is never good news. Far
more beautiful are the portraits that line the staircases of Hogwarts,
and that rustle into life as the pupils pass. Watch the painting
behind Harry's bed in the hospital wing; as he convalesces, we see a
figure in the gloomy picture rise and soothe a patient of her own.
That strikes me as a true special effect: not a contrivance that shows
itself off but a scrap of magic that gestures in sympathy toward the
human.
At the other extreme, we have the climax of the film, and the
emergence of Voldemort the villain. We wait with open mouths and what
do we get? Pure graphics: computer-generated imagery, writhing in
anguish - in need of the sorcerer's stone, apparently, although it
looked to me as if the forces of ultimate evil were badly wanting the
men's room. But then the entire final act of the movie, in which
Harry and his playmates dice with varieties of death, including
neck-wrapping roots and murderous chessmen, has a definite air of the
secondhand; I caught a blast of Indiana Jones, and a more recent whiff
of the Mummy. Rowling fans will point out that all these obstacles
crop up in the original, but that only indicates how cinematically she
conceived her saga from the beginning. Such smart practice lent the
books both pungency and pace, but it also meant that, if filmmakers
simply adhered to the text - if they followed instructions - they
risked venturing onto ground that would be, for movie audences, old
hat.
"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" is, despite its trickery, that
plainest and least surprising of artifacts; the work of art that is
exactly the sum of its parts, neither more nor less. It does the job,
and, considering that it was directed by the man responsible for "Mrs.
Doubtfire," "Stepmom," and the "Home Alone" films, we should be
grateful that it does so without inducing emesis. The child
performers - who are, justly, given lead billing above their elders -
are forthright and credible, especially Emma Watson, as the
witch-haired Hermione. That she, as a bossy swot, should be made
welcome by the hero is a new development in the genre; until Rowling
came along, there was no greater crime, within the bounds of the
school story than to be too clever by half. But then only a woman
could have done as Rowling did; no man would have dared to revive the
prep-school setting, for fear of being thought archaic and uncool.
Her genius was to realize that the very formalities of the tradition -
the inter-house rivalry, the sporting slang - were in themselves
amusing, and that the stuffy could be made mysterious once more. To
almost every viewer of the film, Hogwarts will be the sheerest
invention; to those who attended British boarding schools, everything
about it, from the pre-term purchase of arcane clothing to the London
train brimming with whey-faced new boys, feels like grinding
neorealism - a blast, either hallowed or horrific, from an all too
insistent past.
This distinction comes to mind when one inspects the face of Daniel
Radcliffe. He is friendly and confident: the Harry, I would guess,
that we had in our mind's eye. But there is a tingle of knowingness
in him, a refusal to be taken aback, that goes beyond British grit; in
short, he looks slightly too old for wonder, and you never really
doubt that he will cope. (Gossips reported that Radcliffe's voice
broke near the end of filming, and that he had to be dubbed for a
handful of lines.) Through no fault of his own, he has the air not of
an eleven year-old, posed between innocence and apprehension, but of a
budding teenager; the movie patches him together with Hermione as a
pal, yet, if I were his age, I would already be rolling a pencil under
her desk and trying to look up her skirt. (Rowling, acute as ever,
knew this; she had Harry flushing with awkwardness at Hermiones's
embrace.) "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" can hardly fail to
lure the crowd, as the books have drawn their millions of readers;
but, unlike the fiction, it leaves no aftertaste - no sense of
anything truly momentous being at stake. The tests that Harry
undergoes are fun to observe, but they remain just that, whereas
Rowling devised them as the trials, however comically disguised, of a
young soul, confronted with the call to grow up. Thanks to Warner
Bros., Harry Potter is busy answering that call; the second movie
about him will start shooting two days after the first one comes out.
RCLOVELY
>pal, yet, if I were his age, I would already be rolling a pencil under
>her desk and trying to look up her skirt.
I still think this statement is unnecessary and a little sick!
RC
Ina Blous
> >the guy for her- so, he's an athelete. So what? And how do u know he's
> >smart? I bet Karkaroff just picked him cuz he's famous.
>
> Karkaroff.
>
>
> older than my mother!
>
Now, about Krum, what I meant is that Karkaroff picked him for the
people who gets to go to Hogwarts cuz he's famous, but anyway, what
kind of argument is that? That Krum is right for her cuz he's a
champion?
And about the age difference...look, I'm not saying that's it's
impossible, but Harry doesn't even know the girl? Of course there can
be marriages with differenes of 10 years and stuff, but do u marry
someone u barely even know?!
Nah, I think that Ron and Hermione will surely be together- see the
jealousy from Ron in the Yule ball? And everytime Hermione gets hurt
Ron is the forst to come, and vice versa.
But u know what, I agree bout Ginny and Harry. It mights br just
Ginny's silly crush, but if it'll be real, it'll be cute, doncha
think?
But Harry and Cho-NO WAY! Besides, she loved Cedric, and he died.
Poor girl...:-<
But she and Harry:nuh-uh!
Jens Müller
> But Harry and Cho-NO WAY! Besides, she loved Cedric, and he died.
> Poor girl...:-<
> But she and Harry:nuh-uh!
Anyway, they might be friends.
Rick Rollins
"Joseph Romagnano" <jrd...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:3C04E7BE...@charter.net...
> gjw wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:34:40 -0500, Joseph Romagnano
> > <jrd...@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>IIRC, Harry first really notices Cho in book 3.
> >>
> >
> > Granted. But it was limited to one quick look on the Quidditch field
> > in that book. The only other times she's mentioned there is as an
> > opponent, when he's battling her in the skies for the golden snitch.
> >
> >
>
>
> Here is the relevant quote:
>
> Cho Chang, was the only girl on their team. She was
> shorter than Harry by about a head, and Harry couldn't help noticing,
> nervous as he was, that she was extremely pretty. She smiled at Harry as
> the teams faced each other behind their captains, and he felt a slight
> lurch in the region of his stomach that he didn't think had anything to
> do with nerves.
>
> She also makes another small appearance in the book, wishing Harry luck
> before the Slytherin match.
>
Exactly, and there was a reaction from Harry:
"Good luck, Harry!" called Cho. Harry felt himself blushing.
unterhund
> But u know what, I agree bout Ginny and Harry. It mights br just
> Ginny's silly crush, but if it'll be real, it'll be cute, doncha
> think?
No, it'll be nauseating.
TheShef
> Nah, I think that Ron and Hermione will surely be together- see the
> jealousy from Ron in the Yule ball? And everytime Hermione gets hurt
> Ron is the forst to come, and vice versa.
Now let's say that Ron and Hermione do get together (I personally
think they will). How will Rowling handle this? I'm envisioning a
scenario in which HRH make plans to meet up in an empty classroom to
practice some spells. Harry gets delayed, and he arrives to find Ron
and Hermione making out. They don't notice him, so he turns around,
walks away, and bursts out laughing because he's just figured out why
they've been making lame excuses for weeks about where they've been
when he can't find them.
This could also lead to a several amusing chapters where Harry,
Neville, et al. try not to smile when they notice things like Ron and
Hermione playing footsie or Ron's hand on her back or butt. Follwed by
Ron and Hermione finally telling everyone, and people's reaction is
"Well DUH!!!"
Shef
Ina Blous
LOL!! That'd be hilarious!
I think that if they will hook up, J.K will make them tell it in the
end of the book, u know, like in the 2nd one, with Penelope & Percy.
U know, Ron and Hermione will be acting strangely through the book,
and Harry not knowing what they're up to, and in the end of the
book-"We're dating!"
J.K always leaves the best stuff to the end.
And about Harry and Cho, yeah, I guess they can b freinds, why not?
Rick Rollins
It would be funny, but I think JKR has set this up to be a romantic
rivalry between Ron and Krum. With Durmstrang supposedly teaching the dark
arts, this could actually be laced with some very dark overtones. If she
chose to go that way, this could definitely be a scenario in which Ron gets
killed.
> J.K always leaves the best stuff to the end.
> And about Harry and Cho, yeah, I guess they can b freinds, why not?
Cho had a small part in Book Three, a bigger part in Book Four. I see her
having a VERY big part in Book Five. Could be Harry gets quite distracted
should Cho be threatened by DEs. I just can't see JKR writing her back into
a lesser role after the previous buildup. Another potential victim.
Andrew
> It would be funny, but I think JKR has set this up to be a romantic
>rivalry between Ron and Krum. With Durmstrang supposedly teaching the dark
>arts, this could actually be laced with some very dark overtones. If she
>chose to go that way, this could definitely be a scenario in which Ron gets
>killed.
Krum goes to Durmstrang, but he's basically a good guy. I very much doubt
that he'd hurt or kill Ron, even if they became rivals for Hermione's
affections.
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Andy
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