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Vincent Dunn

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Nov 22, 2001, 12:14:57 PM11/22/01
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I've read the first book,and seen the movie,and have only just started
the second book,so forgive me if my questions have already been
answered,but...
1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
world,just like Harry?
2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
noticing?
3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
the Leaky Cauldron?
Thanks in advance!

Terry Eden

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Nov 22, 2001, 12:58:05 PM11/22/01
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"Vincent Dunn" <Prince...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I've read the first book,and seen the movie,and have only just started
> the second book,so forgive me if my questions have already been
> answered,but...
> 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
> photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
> world,just like Harry?

They don't tend to interact much with the muggle community.

> 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
> noticing?

Read "Quidditch Through The Ages". Basically, they're very careful and go
to great lengths to hide the pitches.

> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
> the Leaky Cauldron?

If you read the book carefully, you'll see that Harry notices that Quirrel
is wearing a turban for the first time at the sorting feast.

Terry

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Pluto (M)

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Nov 22, 2001, 12:58:12 PM11/22/01
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"Vincent Dunn" <Prince...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I've read the first book,and seen the movie,and have only just started
> the second book,so forgive me if my questions have already been
> answered,but...
> 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
> photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
> world,just like Harry?

I'd wager that they don't have a TV... at least a working one. And why would
they know about it? I imagine the weasley don't hang out with Muggle kids too
much, 'else they'd know more about 'em.

> 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
> noticing?

Magical stadiums and fields.

> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
> the Leaky Cauldron?
> Thanks in advance!

Voldemort probably wasn't attached to him yet. Quirrel said that he only started
sticking with him after he failed to get the stone in Gringotts.

Jaak Suurpere

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Nov 22, 2001, 2:08:22 PM11/22/01
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>===== Original Message From Prince...@webtv.net (Vincent Dunn) =====

> I've read the first book,and seen the movie,and have only just started
>the second book,so forgive me if my questions have already been
>answered,but...
> 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
>photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
>world,just like Harry?

NO.
He's not raised by muggles.

> 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
>noticing?

Explained at length in GoF and QTTA (but not adequately, or we the fans
would
have noticed).

> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
>the Leaky Cauldron?
> Thanks in advance!
>

Quirrell has no turban either. See?

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SnowAngelxxoo

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Nov 22, 2001, 7:51:01 PM11/22/01
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1. Ron lives in the wizard world, which is a completely different world from
the muggle world. You can go to and from each world . . . if you know how.
Obviously, Ron hasn't been out of the wizard world so he doesn't know about
things like basketball or things staying still in photos.

2. You'll read more about that in the fourth book, I won't ruin it for you.

3. Great point! I have absolutely no idea!

Buster

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Nov 22, 2001, 8:07:43 PM11/22/01
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"SnowAngelxxoo" <snowan...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I'm not sure if AOL's newsreader supports it ( I'd be surprised if it
didn't.)but, please try to quote the previous post when you reply. I have no
idea what this was about!

Buster


Dave Hardenbrook

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Nov 22, 2001, 9:14:49 PM11/22/01
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In article <U0bL7.886$Cr4.11...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>, "Pluto
\(M\)" <plu...@flash.net> says...

> I'd wager that they don't have a TV... at least a working one. And why would
> they know about it? I imagine the weasley don't hang out with Muggle kids too
> much, 'else they'd know more about 'em.

But his dad *does* work in the "Misuse of Muggle Artifacts" office and
collects various Muggle paraphenalia (as revealed near the start of
Book 2), so you would think such a "Muggle-loving" family would know
*something* about these things...



> > 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
> > noticing?
>
> Magical stadiums and fields.

As have others in the this thread, I recommend _Quidditch Through the
Ages_, which is one of the two short paperback "schoolbooks" put out by
"Comic Relief", which Rowling wrote under pseudonyms.

> > 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
> > the Leaky Cauldron?
> > Thanks in advance!
>
> Voldemort probably wasn't attached to him yet. Quirrel said that he only started
> sticking with him after he failed to get the stone in Gringotts.

He wasn't -- Note that Quirrell isn't wearing the turban yet. (This is
something the movie got wrong.)

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Lynn

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Nov 23, 2001, 1:23:30 AM11/23/01
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>> > 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his
>> >hand in the Leaky Cauldron?
>> > Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Voldemort probably wasn't attached to him yet. Quirrel said that he
>>only started sticking with him after he failed to get the stone in
>>Gringotts.
>
>He wasn't -- Note that Quirrell isn't wearing the turban yet. (This is
>something the movie got wrong.)

No, they didn't get it wrong. They changed it. If you'll notice, in the movie
Quirrell will not shake hands with Harry in the Leaky Cauldron.

It's been speculated here that they did this so that Quirrell would be easier
to identify later on. With the huge purple turban, he's hard to miss. I know
when I read the book, I totally missed the fact that Harry had met Quirrell
before the school year. (I mean, come on, when you are first starting out in
the books, "Defense Against the Dark Arts Professor" doesn't mean much to you
yet!)

Lynn
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Ronnie Clark

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Nov 23, 2001, 3:35:10 AM11/23/01
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3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
the Leaky Cauldron?

In the book, Quirrel doesn't don his turban until the sorting feast, and so
hasn't been gotten to by Voldemorte.

In the film, Quirrel very obviously tries to avoid touching Harry at any
time, especially at the Leaky Cauldron when they first meet.

Ronnie


Cyber Scout

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Nov 23, 2001, 4:45:27 AM11/23/01
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In article <369-3BFD...@storefull-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Vincent Dunn
says...

Hi Vincent, welcome to the group. Excellent questions...

.. er that's it. I think some one else knows the answeres
but I'd like to thank you for your excellent questions nontheless.

Cyber Scout

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Nov 23, 2001, 4:45:44 AM11/23/01
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In article <369-3BFD...@storefull-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Vincent Dunn
says...
>

Hi Vincent, welcome to the group. Excellent questions...

Russell Dodd

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Nov 23, 2001, 6:23:41 AM11/23/01
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Nice snappy email address you have the Vincent. :-)

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Cheshire55

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Nov 23, 2001, 5:08:21 PM11/23/01
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<< 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
>photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
>world,just like Harry? >>


Ron doesn't really live in the muggle world. He's from a wizarding family and
spends all of his free time in the wizarding world so things that would be
common to muggles and people who live with muggles (like Harry) or were born
into a family of muggles would be totally alien to him.

<< 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
>noticing? >>

Mostly enchantments and such.

<< 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
>the Leaky Cauldron? >>

In the movie he doesn't touch him. In the book I can't remember if he does or
not but I believe we are told that Quirrel didn't have Voldemort with him at
the time. That happens later and it's Voldemort (or whoever he's inhabiting)
who can't touch Harry.

Hope this helps.

Take care.


TTFN,
Jennifer
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Nov 24, 2001, 9:56:27 PM11/24/01
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Sorry...
Breathes.

Fab


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One thing that I do find fascinating is Quidditch, the sport of Harry Potter,
the sport of wizards. It seems just about the greatest sport ever invented,
better even than NASCAR. ~Joe Posnanski

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Nov 24, 2001, 9:56:08 PM11/24/01
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>> I've read the first book,and seen the movie,and have only just started
>>the second book,so forgive me if my questions have already been
>>answered,but...
>> 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
>>photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
>>world,just like Harry?

Let me quote MST3K for you:

If you're wondering how Joel eats and sleeps
And other science facts
Just say to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax..."

Oliver Gassner

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Nov 25, 2001, 2:43:00 PM11/25/01
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:14:57 -0500 (EST), Prince...@webtv.net
(Vincent Dunn) wrote:

> 1)How can Ron not know about basketball,or people staying put in
>photos,doesnt he come from,and in summer-time,go back to,the uh,muggle
>world,just like Harry?

He is _not_ socializing with Muggles or consuming Muggle media. So how
should he learn? Imaging living in an foreign cuntry and only meeting
ppl of your own 'nationality'.

> 2)How is there quidditch teams in England,etc without any muggles ever
>noticing?

Carefully. ;)

> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
>the Leaky Cauldron?

a) He is not want to attack him, so there is no need fr the spell to
kick in.

b) Is the tuban mentioned there?

OG

FriarED

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Nov 25, 2001, 5:05:05 PM11/25/01
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"Ronnie Clark" <R.J.Cl...@student.lboro.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Then why doesn't Quirrell get burned when he chokes Harry?


Rugrat

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Nov 25, 2001, 7:22:53 PM11/25/01
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Prince...@webtv.net (Vincent Dunn) wrote

Ah ha! So WebTVers /can/ post in plain text! And they're not all illiterate
losers, either. Right. Next time I see a splatter of HTML idiot-speak I
shall Have Something To Say, as you have proved that it is possible to post
sensibly from one of these infernal machines.

Thanks.

Rugrat

Lynn

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Nov 25, 2001, 8:41:30 PM11/25/01
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>>> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his
>>>hand in the Leaky Cauldron?
>>
>> In the book, Quirrel doesn't don his turban until the sorting feast, and
>>so hasn't been gotten to by Voldemorte.
>> In the film, Quirrel very obviously tries to avoid touching Harry at any
>> time, especially at the Leaky Cauldron when they first meet.
>
>Then why doesn't Quirrell get burned when he chokes Harry?

The movie goes on the assumption that it is Harry's *hands* that are what
Quirrell can't touch. Therefore, he avoids shaking hands with him and doesn't
get burned until Harry puts his palms on him.

Richard Eney

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Nov 26, 2001, 8:16:51 PM11/26/01
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In article <3bi20u0th1puc5ntd...@4ax.com>,

Oliver Gassner <fra...@gmx.de> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:14:57 -0500 (EST), Prince...@webtv.net
>(Vincent Dunn) wrote:
<snip>

>> 3)How come Harry doesnt burn Quirrel when he first shakes his hand in
>>the Leaky Cauldron?
>
>a) He is not want to attack him, so there is no need fr the spell to
>kick in.
>
>b) Is the tuban mentioned there?

In the book, Quirrel has already been captured by Voldemort but Voldemort
is not riding in Quirrel's body, and Quirrel is not yet wearing the turban
in the Leaky Cauldron scene. Later, in the opening feast scene, Quirrel
is wearing the turban and has Voldemort riding in his head; then when
Voldemort looks through the turban at Harry, Harry feels the pain.

In the movie, they had Quirrel possessed by Voldemort right from the
beginning, so Quirrel didn't shake hands with Harry in the Leaky Cauldron.

=Tamar

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