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EarlCox

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Sep 3, 2007, 7:14:22 PM9/3/07
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I have noticed a clear lack of volume and originality in the current wave of
fan fiction. Now that the final book is out, do you think that the emotional
and psychic energy has somehow dissipated and that HP fan fiction will
slowly but steadily disappear?


Sabremeister Brian

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Sep 3, 2007, 8:04:03 PM9/3/07
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In a speech called 46dc9563$0$11024$4c36...@roadrunner.com,
EarlCox (ear...@earlcoxreports.com) spake thusly:


The lame epilogue probably acted as a heatsink for any potential
creativity that was heading for us.

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Deevo

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Sep 3, 2007, 8:29:43 PM9/3/07
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"EarlCox" <ear...@earlcoxreports.com> wrote in message
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I disagree, there is the usual spate of 'missing moments' fanfic around
which has happened after the release of previous works as well though I
suspect when things are settled down a bit there'll be a return to the Post
Hogwarts fanfics that were becoming quite popular lately.

There may not be the rush of them but that may be for the best too as those
who'll take their time will probably have a better quality story to tell.
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Drusilla

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Sep 3, 2007, 8:32:25 PM9/3/07
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EarlCox escribió:

Have you read DH? Many fans would like to re-write that.

Fish Eye no Miko

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Sep 3, 2007, 8:58:32 PM9/3/07
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No.

Catherine Johnson.

A.G.McDowell

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Sep 4, 2007, 1:02:00 AM9/4/07
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In article <46dc9563$0$11024$4c36...@roadrunner.com>, EarlCox
<ear...@earlcoxreports.com> writes
The niche for "what's next?" fanfic has narrowed a great deal, if not
closed. That for "what if?" fanfic is still wide open; my personal
favourite is the Severitus challenge.
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A.G.McDowell

Fish Eye no Miko

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Sep 4, 2007, 3:34:51 AM9/4/07
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On Sep 3, 10:02 pm, "A.G.McDowell" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> EarlCox <earl...@earlcoxreports.com> writes>


>
> >I have noticed a clear lack of volume and originality in the
> >current wave of fan fiction. Now that the final book is out,
> >do you think that the emotional and psychic energy has
> >somehow dissipated and that HP fan fiction will slowly
> >but steadily disappear?
>
> The niche for "what's next?" fanfic has narrowed a great deal,
> if not closed.

!!!
Dude, the epilogue introduced us to the next generation, and at least
eight new characters for fanficcers to play with (Teddy Lupin,
Victoire, James 2.0, Albus Severus, Lily 2.0, Rose, Hugo, and
Scorpius). There's already TWO lj comms specifically for the Albus
Severus/Scorpius pairing alone, just imagine all the other
possibilities....

> That for "what if?" fanfic is still wide open; my
> personal favourite is the Severitus challenge.

What's that?

Catherine Johnson.

Ron Hunter

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Sep 4, 2007, 4:52:16 AM9/4/07
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Not at all. I have seen more story starts since the release of DH than
ever before. People are rushing to fill that 19 year information vacuum.
Now if they would just FINISH some of the ones started before DH before
starting new ones!

A.G.McDowell

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Sep 4, 2007, 3:21:38 PM9/4/07
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In article <1188891291.0...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Fish
Eye no Miko <fe...@cox.net> writes

>On Sep 3, 10:02 pm, "A.G.McDowell" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> EarlCox <earl...@earlcoxreports.com> writes>
>>
>> >I have noticed a clear lack of volume and originality in the
>> >current wave of fan fiction. Now that the final book is out,
>> >do you think that the emotional and psychic energy has
>> >somehow dissipated and that HP fan fiction will slowly
>> >but steadily disappear?
>>
>> The niche for "what's next?" fanfic has narrowed a great deal,
>> if not closed.
>
>!!!
>Dude, the epilogue introduced us to the next generation, and at least
>eight new characters for fanficcers to play with (Teddy Lupin,
>Victoire, James 2.0, Albus Severus, Lily 2.0, Rose, Hugo, and
>Scorpius). There's already TWO lj comms specifically for the Albus
>Severus/Scorpius pairing alone, just imagine all the other
>possibilities....
The Albus Severus/Scorpius acronym has already scarred my mind; I have
not been able to forget it. But I wouldn't expect great things of fanfic
based on the new characters; I think fanfic works well when it takes
advantage of strong characters that the reader is already familiar with,
and throws new light on canon. I don't think Hogwarts: TNG gives people
enough to work with.

>
>> That for "what if?" fanfic is still wide open; my
>> personal favourite is the Severitus challenge.
>
>What's that?
>
>Catherine Johnson.
>
You can google for it, but in my terms it is "what if Harry turned out
to have been Snape's son?" There are a couple of dozen responses to it
out there, some very good and some that I didn't finish reading. I like
it because I'm interested in Snape as a character, and the Snape-Harry
interactions in early canon are still interesting even after you have
seen Snape in DH (In slow time I'm rereading from PS/SS, now with
knowledge of DH).
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A.G.McDowell

Fish Eye no Miko

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Sep 4, 2007, 3:52:03 PM9/4/07
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On Sep 4, 12:21 pm, "A.G.McDowell" <nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <1188891291.013051.161...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Fish
> Eye no Miko <f...@cox.net> writes

>
> >On Sep 3, 10:02 pm, "A.G.McDowell" <nos...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> EarlCox <earl...@earlcoxreports.com> writes>
>
> >> >I have noticed a clear lack of volume and originality in the
> >> >current wave of fan fiction. Now that the final book is out,
> >> >do you think that the emotional and psychic energy has
> >> >somehow dissipated and that HP fan fiction will slowly
> >> >but steadily disappear?
>
> >> The niche for "what's next?" fanfic has narrowed a great deal,
> >> if not closed.
>
> >!!!
> >Dude, the epilogue introduced us to the next generation, and
> >at least eight new characters for fanficcers to play with (Teddy
> >Lupin, Victoire, James 2.0, Albus Severus, Lily 2.0, Rose,
> >Hugo, and Scorpius). There's already TWO lj comms
> >specifically for the Albus Severus/Scorpius pairing alone,
> >just imagine all the other possibilities....
>
> The Albus Severus/Scorpius acronym has already scarred my
> mind;

Hey, I just said their names, I didn't use the acronym... ^_^

> I have not been able to forget it. But I wouldn't expect
> great things of fanfic based on the new characters;

Ok, seem what I thought you meant was that it was not possible,
period, not that it might not be good or interesting.

> I think fanfic works well when it takes advantage of strong
> characters that the reader is already familiar with,

True, which is why I hate OCs...

> and throws new light on canon. I don't think
> Hogwarts: TNG gives people enough to work with.

Ok.

> >> That for "what if?" fanfic is still wide open; my
> >> personal favourite is the Severitus challenge.
>
> >What's that?
>

> You can google for it, but in my terms it is "what if Harry
> turned out to have been Snape's son?"

Ahh.. My biggest problem with the idea is that, depending on the time
line you wanna give (we don't know when Lily and James got married,
after all), Lily would have had to have cheated on James for Lily to
happen and I ain't down with that. If you do a scenario where that's
not what happened, I rather like the idea, too.

> There are a couple of dozen responses to it out there,
> some very good and some that I didn't finish reading.

Ok. Any ones in particular you might point me to? Life';s to short
to read bad fanfic... ^_^

> I like it because I'm interested in Snape as a character,

Yeah, same here (as I'm sure you know).

> and the Snape-Harry interactions in early canon are still
> interesting even after you have seen Snape in DH (In slow
> time I'm rereading from PS/SS, now with knowledge of DH).

Cool. I loaned mine out (the first three books in fact), but will
probably do the same when I get them back.
I would have LOVED to have seen some scene between Harry and Snape
after the revelations in the Pensieve... the Resurrection Stone, or
his portrait, or something... )-:

Catherine Johnson.

Jano

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Sep 4, 2007, 3:53:04 PM9/4/07
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Drusilla wrote:

Ease a bit, Drusilla. You are determined to trash this book :)

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Karnak17

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Sep 5, 2007, 2:02:18 AM9/5/07
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trekker

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Sep 5, 2007, 6:20:36 AM9/5/07
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>
> Ok. Any ones in particular you might point me to? Life';s to short
> to read bad fanfic... ^_^
>
> > I like it because I'm interested in Snape as a character,
>
> Yeah, same here (as I'm sure you know).
>
> > and the Snape-Harry interactions in early canon are still
> > interesting even after you have seen Snape in DH (In slow
> > time I'm rereading from PS/SS, now with knowledge of DH).
>
> Cool. I loaned mine out (the first three books in fact), but will
> probably do the same when I get them back.
> I would have LOVED to have seen some scene between Harry and Snape
> after the revelations in the Pensieve... the Resurrection Stone, or
> his portrait, or something... )-:
>
> Catherine Johnson.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I too would have loved to 'see' the post 'Princes Tale' conversation
between Harry and Snape. But bearing in mind what a 'private' man
Snape was and how adamant he was that he did not want Harry to know
his true role, perhaps the ommision of this scene was the right way to
handle it.

FanFic that I have enjoyed so far can be found on Fanfiction.net

'Duet for One' (a poem voiced by Snape) Brilliant!

'The Guiltless'

and its sequel which is still coming out Chapter by chapter,

'The Poor of God'

Enjoy

Ron Hunter

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Sep 5, 2007, 10:54:53 AM9/5/07
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Have you read "End of an Era". You might like that one.

A.G.McDowell

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Sep 5, 2007, 1:30:01 PM9/5/07
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In article <1188935523.4...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, Fish
Eye no Miko <fe...@cox.net> writes

>On Sep 4, 12:21 pm, "A.G.McDowell" <nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <1188891291.013051.161...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Fish
>> Eye no Miko <f...@cox.net> writes
>>
(trimmed)

>> I think fanfic works well when it takes advantage of strong
>> characters that the reader is already familiar with,
>
>True, which is why I hate OCs...
>
>> and throws new light on canon. I don't think
>> Hogwarts: TNG gives people enough to work with.
>
>Ok.
>
>> >> That for "what if?" fanfic is still wide open; my
>> >> personal favourite is the Severitus challenge.
>>
>> >What's that?
>>
>> You can google for it, but in my terms it is "what if Harry
>> turned out to have been Snape's son?"
>
>Ahh.. My biggest problem with the idea is that, depending on the time
>line you wanna give (we don't know when Lily and James got married,
>after all), Lily would have had to have cheated on James for Lily to
>happen and I ain't down with that. If you do a scenario where that's
>not what happened, I rather like the idea, too.
>
None of them that I have read make a big deal of the Lily/James/Severus
triangle implied. Arguably Snape's lifelong obsession with Lily in canon
is more disturbing than the least imaginative and most derogatory
Severitus conception, the drunken one night stand. Severus posing as
James via polyjuice and with his consent (while the two are spying for
Dumbledore) has been suggested at least twice, as are variations on
James being unable to father a child with Lily.

>> There are a couple of dozen responses to it out there,
>> some very good and some that I didn't finish reading.
>
>Ok. Any ones in particular you might point me to? Life';s to short
>to read bad fanfic... ^_^
>
I don't have records to find and recall the ones I really liked reading,
since I didn't intend to re-read them. As second best I've googled for
serveritus and picked ones I'm pretty sure I at least liked enough to
finish. I think at least one of these I was quite absorbed by:

Blood Magic
http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/gatewaygirl/BM.html

A year like none other
http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=5036&chapter=1

Resonance
http://www.fictionalley.org/authors/salamander/resonance01.html


>> I like it because I'm interested in Snape as a character,
>
>Yeah, same here (as I'm sure you know).
>
>> and the Snape-Harry interactions in early canon are still
>> interesting even after you have seen Snape in DH (In slow
>> time I'm rereading from PS/SS, now with knowledge of DH).
>
>Cool. I loaned mine out (the first three books in fact), but will
>probably do the same when I get them back.
>I would have LOVED to have seen some scene between Harry and Snape
>after the revelations in the Pensieve... the Resurrection Stone, or
>his portrait, or something... )-:
>
>Catherine Johnson.
>

--
A.G.McDowell

Fish Eye no Miko

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Sep 5, 2007, 2:56:40 PM9/5/07
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Do you know the author's name? I'm getting a lot of results back from
a Google search, so knowing the writer's name would help.

Catherine Johnson.

Drusilla

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Sep 5, 2007, 2:59:55 PM9/5/07
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Jano escribió:

> Drusilla wrote:
>
>> EarlCox escribió:
>>> I have noticed a clear lack of volume and originality in the current wave
>>> of fan fiction. Now that the final book is out, do you think that the
>>> emotional and psychic energy has somehow dissipated and that HP fan
>>> fiction will slowly but steadily disappear?
>> Have you read DH? Many fans would like to re-write that.
>
> Ease a bit, Drusilla. You are determined to trash this book :)

LOL, well, I admit that when asked about the book, I've answered "yes,
I've read it and it sucked" more than a couple of times :P

Ron Hunter

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