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gjw

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Jul 27, 2003, 2:32:01 PM7/27/03
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There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1

Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?

(Also, notice the...er... close proximity of Harry & Hermione...)


Scortia

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Jul 27, 2003, 2:53:59 PM7/27/03
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gjw wrote:

I presume that Sirius has just drug off Ron and they're next to the
whomping willow after it swiped at them and they're looking up at it or
something... there's suppose to be water around it, right? (IS that
water? O.o... if it is, it looks like a freaking ocean's worth of waves)
lol, they're giving away the plot with the words under the picture. >P
I'm glad that Emma and Daniel don't seem to have aged extraordinarily
since the CoS...

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Scortia

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Jul 27, 2003, 2:59:44 PM7/27/03
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gjw wrote:

Ah, I just read the whole story... lmao... comparing Fudge to Tony
Blair. Dude, I love Cuaron... he seems like a cool guy. "For “Azkaban,”
Cuaron’s team has spent six months on the dementors alone. "

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gjw

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Jul 27, 2003, 9:54:19 PM7/27/03
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:53:59 -0500, Scortia <sco...@charter.net>
wrote:

>
>
>gjw wrote:
>
>> There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1
>>
>> Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?
>>
>> (Also, notice the...er... close proximity of Harry & Hermione...)
>
>I presume that Sirius has just drug off Ron and they're next to the
>whomping willow after it swiped at them and they're looking up at it or
>something... there's suppose to be water around it, right? (IS that
>water? O.o... if it is, it looks like a freaking ocean's worth of waves)
>lol, they're giving away the plot with the words under the picture. >P
>I'm glad that Emma and Daniel don't seem to have aged extraordinarily
>since the CoS...

Quite possible, it's what I was thinking, since Hermione's shoulder
appears to be damaged - and that could be the curve of the tunnel
behind them.

But on the other hand, I don't remember any mention of water or fog in
that tree/tunnel scene (if that IS water in the photo - it looks like
waves, but it might just be fog).

Another possibility is the scene where Harry & Hermione are attacked
by the Dementors, which is set next to a lake (recall that Harry's
patronus crosses the lake to attack them) and there's a mention of fog
(albeit it's probably just in Harry's mind in the book). They would be
wearing the same clothes in both scenes, so the shoulder tear would
still be present... and the look on their faces could fit either fear
of the Dementors or fear for Ron's safety after the dog attack.

One observation, though: Why is Harry looking UP? Is it at the
branches of the Whomping Willow? Or at a ground of tall Dementors
towering over them?


Helen Page

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Jul 27, 2003, 10:16:11 PM7/27/03
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Scortia <sco...@charter.net> wrote:
> gjw wrote:
>
>> There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
>> http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1
>>
>> Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?
>>
>> (Also, notice the...er... close proximity of Harry & Hermione...)
>
> I presume that Sirius has just drug off Ron and they're next to the
> whomping willow after it swiped at them and they're looking up at it
> or something...

My thought is when they have used the time turner and are hiding in the
trees outside Hagrid's hut. Harry is holding Hermione back because she tried
to run forward to save Buckbeak. (writing this from memory, so please excuse
any inaccuracy/lack of detail)

Though they do seem to be looking up, so maybe the whomping willow theory is
more accurate...


yak

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Jul 27, 2003, 11:15:17 PM7/27/03
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In article <bg2145$jnte7$1...@ID-181692.news.uni-berlin.de>,
he...@celosia.co.uk says...


will all you harry/hermione theorists just knock it off... it will NOT
happen, there have been enough clues that anyone should be able to see
this...

but getting back to the circumstance of the picture, it could be when
they are running from lupin... I dont know if buckbeak is a practical
effect or cg... they are definately in the forest tho, and the whomping
willow isn't anywhere near the forest, even in the movies...

Will Humber

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Jul 27, 2003, 11:25:58 PM7/27/03
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"Scortia" <sco...@charter.net> wrote in message
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I found this line from the article rather funny; makes you wonder whether or
not the author of the articles has actually read the books.

"By then, the franchise could be in the midst of another creative shake-up.
Radcliffe says he'll be riding the Nimbus 2000 in the fourth movie, "The
Goblet of Fire," and it appears that his young costars, Watson and Rupert
Grint, who plays Ron Weasley, will join him."

Oops. Note the Nimbus 2000 as opposed to the Firebolt.


Toon

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Jul 28, 2003, 5:18:47 AM7/28/03
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Ah cool. The De mentor attack at the end, when Time Traveling Harry
saves the day,

PaulB

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Jul 28, 2003, 8:44:39 AM7/28/03
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Or H & H try to follow Sirius and Ron past the whomping willow and get...
whomped?


Heber Ferraz-Leite

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Jul 28, 2003, 9:00:18 AM7/28/03
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"gjw" <g...@example.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3f251a30...@news.earthlink.net...

Well ... I would have thought something towards the end of the book.

BUT ...

Why are they wearing muggle clothes ? (It's been a while since I read PoA,
but I would expect them to be in wizard's robes)

AND ...

Harry and Hermione become like brother and sister. There is no romantic
sparks going on betweem them. The tension is between Ron and Hermione.
Harry seems to be in a protective attitude there, but that doesn't mean any
romantic implication.

Regards,

Heber


Gregory from Poland

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Jul 28, 2003, 9:01:34 AM7/28/03
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> Toon wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:32:01 GMT, g...@example.com (gjw) wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
> >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1
> >>
> >> Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?

why are they in muggle clothes?
Is it just a rehersal or are they going to change clothes by special
effects?
Or is there a scene in the book where they wear muggles' clothes?


DM

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Jul 28, 2003, 10:02:17 AM7/28/03
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Heber Ferraz-Leite wrote:

> "gjw" <g...@example.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:3f251a30...@news.earthlink.net...
> >
> > There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
> > http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1
> >
> > Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?
> >
> > (Also, notice the...er... close proximity of Harry & Hermione...)
> >
>
> Well ... I would have thought something towards the end of the book.
>
> BUT ...
>
> Why are they wearing muggle clothes ? (It's been a while since I read PoA,
> but I would expect them to be in wizard's robes)
>

IIRC, it was after dinner and the three were basically done for the day as far
as school work. They probably changed to muggle clothes that evening, before
visiting Hagrid.
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JB

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Jul 28, 2003, 10:02:51 AM7/28/03
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"Gregory from Poland" <cza...@nospam.poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message
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I think the movies have always played fast and lose with the idea of muggle
clothes vs. wizard clothes. I remember when they met Aragog they've just
sneaked out of their dorm but they're in Muggle clothes then as well.


Philip Edward Lewis

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Jul 28, 2003, 10:34:48 AM7/28/03
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"JB" <flaxton_...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>I think the movies have always played fast and lose with the idea of muggle
>clothes vs. wizard clothes.

yup... and it bothers me. why else would so may wizards have such a
bad idea of what "muggle clothing" was like, if they wore them under
the robes all the time.

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bdelene

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Jul 28, 2003, 12:44:08 PM7/28/03
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Emma seems to be in pain...IMO she developed some
good acting skills in the last movie, in this photo she
seems to be beaten up some.

-beth

John Fisher

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Jul 28, 2003, 1:09:43 PM7/28/03
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Heber Ferraz-Leite (hfe...@yahoo.com) wrote:

> Harry seems to be in a protective attitude there, but that doesn't mean any
> romantic implication.

Harry is protective to everyone. It's part of his hero
thing.

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Jule

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:13:43 PM7/28/03
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"Gregory from Poland" <cza...@nospam.poczta.onet.pl> wrote in message news:<bg36uu$qqb$1...@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>...
> Użytkownik "PaulB" <pbo...@www.dothmgpaint.com> napisał w wiadomo?ci

> news:OU8Va.939$95....@newsr2.u-net.net...
> > Toon wrote:
> > > On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 18:32:01 GMT, g...@example.com (gjw) wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> There's a new photo from the filming of PoA at:
> > >> http://www.msnbc.com/news/943721.asp?cp1=1
> > >>
> > >> Anyone care to guess what scene from the book it represents?
>
> why are they in muggle clothes?
> Is it just a rehersal or are they going to change clothes by special
> effects?
> Or is there a scene in the book where they wear muggles' clothes?


An article linked to the-leaky-cauldron.org mentions that Cuaron
wanted to keep things more realistic, so he dressed the actors in
"teen gear."

Does the book specify if the kids were wearing their uniforms when
they started to venture to the SS?

I'd wondered about the kids aging, too--and they really haven't
changed much. Rupert's gotten a lot taller, though. True to the
books, he's the tallest of the trio.

Philip Edward Lewis

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Jul 28, 2003, 7:52:01 PM7/28/03
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carme...@yahoo.com (Jule) writes:
>An article linked to the-leaky-cauldron.org mentions that Cuaron
>wanted to keep things more realistic, so he dressed the actors in
>"teen gear."
um, we're talking about a magical world.... being realistic isn't a
plus.

can you more precisely cite the article?

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Fish Eye no Miko

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Jul 28, 2003, 11:01:57 PM7/28/03
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"Philip Edward Lewis" <fl...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
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> carme...@yahoo.com (Jule) writes:
>
> >An article linked to the-leaky-cauldron.org mentions that
> >Cuaron wanted to keep things more realistic, so he dressed
> >the actors in "teen gear."
>
> um, we're talking about a magical world.... being realistic isn't
> a plus.

Agreed. I think it's annoying, actually. None of the trio are really what
I'd consider "fashion plates"... and shouldn't they wear their school
uniforms? And in the picture in the Shrieking Shack, Lupin appears to be
wearing a typical "professor's" outfit... NOT wizard clothes.
<tears at hair>

> can you more precisely cite the article?

"For authenticity, Cuaron dressed his cast in hip teen gear, and,
occasionally their own clothing."
It's the caption for the "Alfonso Cuaron and Emma Watson" pic

Catherine Johnson.
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Jule

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Jul 29, 2003, 2:10:59 AM7/29/03
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> >
> > um, we're talking about a magical world.... being realistic isn't
> > a plus.
>

Just quotin' the source, son.


> Agreed. I think it's annoying, actually. None of the trio are really what
> I'd consider "fashion plates"... and shouldn't they wear their school
> uniforms? And in the picture in the Shrieking Shack, Lupin appears to be
> wearing a typical "professor's" outfit... NOT wizard clothes.
> <tears at hair>

Seems like a bit of a change of pace, but I think it'll fly. Whoo, pun.

Toon

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Jul 29, 2003, 4:13:47 AM7/29/03
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Nope. The Willow is closer to Hogwarts than the lake. We can clearly
see the lake right behind them. Hermione looks terrified (also wet.)
She wouldn't be bothered as much by the tree as by say, 100 Dementors
she can't stop, and already freaked out by, um, whatever.

PaulB

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Jul 29, 2003, 6:07:44 AM7/29/03
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Hmm, while I agree that it probably is the Dementor scene, I don't think
that is the lake behind them. Possibly a dry-ice effect or something for a
good, spooky atmosphere.


Jim

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Jul 29, 2003, 8:19:46 AM7/29/03
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carme...@yahoo.com (Jule) wrote in
news:b85819de.03072...@posting.google.com:

> An article linked to the-leaky-cauldron.org mentions that Cuaron
> wanted to keep things more realistic

Oh, so there won't be any magic in this movie?

Jim

Philip Edward Lewis

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Jul 29, 2003, 10:03:31 AM7/29/03
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"Fish Eye no Miko" <fis...@deadmoon.circus> writes:
>"For authenticity, Cuaron dressed his cast in hip teen gear, and,
>occasionally their own clothing."
>It's the caption for the "Alfonso Cuaron and Emma Watson" pic

doh... i was looking for an article....

I'm *really* annoyed at the lack of wizarding robes...
how are they going to portray that wizards don't understand muggle
clothing (say at the Cup) if they wear them on a regular basis.
(I realize that both harry and hermy were broght up by muggles, so
*they* would understand them, but really)

The clothing is *meant* to seperate the wizards from the muggle
world... it's like a badge. getting "suited up" on the Hogwarts
Express to address the school. I've always envisioned the weasleys
change as a "from normal robes" to "school robes"

yak

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Jul 29, 2003, 12:21:48 PM7/29/03
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In article <jom9ivgkklp4c5s9n...@4ax.com>, to...@toon.com
says...


that looks like the forbidden forest floor, not the lake

unless it's tsunami season in scotland

stark

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Jul 29, 2003, 3:01:06 PM7/29/03
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In article <b85819de.03072...@posting.google.com>, Jule wrote:
> I'd wondered about the kids aging, too--and they really haven't
> changed much. Rupert's gotten a lot taller, though. True to the
> books, he's the tallest of the trio.

Why are people so worried about this? Any amount the actors age would be
realistic. Do you still picture an 11 year old Harry at the end of OotP? I
realize that many people might, and have desires for Harry to always be
young, but that simply is not the way its written. The actors should age.
An extra 6 months wont matter. Especially when makeup allows actors to play
characters much younger than they truly are.

I'm not talking about 29 year olds playing 16 year olds, but more like 21
year olds playing 17 year olds. Beyond realism, people often find the
actors who are slightly older a bit more believeable and identify with them
easier, simply because we equate age with "importance". We usually dont
like our heroes to look younger and less mature than their peers. They can
be younger than we are, but human nature makes us respect maturity over ones
peers. That respect makes slightly (but not overly) mature characters in
movies feel a little more "real".

And the age differences we are looking at are really inconsequential. Why
even care? By the end of the series, Ron and Harry will be 17, and nearly
full sized adults.

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Jule

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Jul 29, 2003, 6:46:27 PM7/29/03
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stark <at_n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bg6g9i$lja7q$1...@ID-146807.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> In article <b85819de.03072...@posting.google.com>, Jule wrote:
> > I'd wondered about the kids aging, too--and they really haven't
> > changed much. Rupert's gotten a lot taller, though. True to the
> > books, he's the tallest of the trio.
>
> Why are people so worried about this?

I'm not worried at all. I just commented that Rupert's getting to be
taller than his castmates. When I first saw the online trailer for
CoS, I melted when I heard how Rupert and Dan's voices had changed--it
was soooo adorable.


>Any amount the actors age would be
> realistic. Do you still picture an 11 year old Harry at the end of OotP?

Nope, although it was difficult for me to envision Harry (for example)
while reading OotP. 15 is such a varied age, and I tend to think of
Harry as a smaller than average kid.

> I'm not talking about 29 year olds playing 16 year olds, but more like 21
> year olds playing 17 year olds. Beyond realism, people often find the
> actors who are slightly older a bit more believeable and identify with them
> easier, simply because we equate age with "importance". We usually dont
> like our heroes to look younger and less mature than their peers. They can
> be younger than we are, but human nature makes us respect maturity over ones
> peers. That respect makes slightly (but not overly) mature characters in
> movies feel a little more "real".

Yes, it has got to be insanely annoying to Emma, Rupert and Dan when
people plague them with questions about outgrowing their roles. 17-25
is a malleable range for many actors. People think that if Dan is 22
and playing 17-18, it'll be a tragedy. The kids aren't allowed a
break, and they have to churn out a movie per year?? Jeez.

Jule

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Jul 29, 2003, 6:49:54 PM7/29/03
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Jim <no...@example.com> wrote in message news:<CDtVa.9909$YN5.8762@sccrnsc01>...

Just hormonal magic, apparently. :) Actually, I would think that the
kids wouldn't wear their school uniforms all the time. Weekends,
nights, holidays, you wear your "civvies" I guess. But the clothes in
the Newsweek pictures seem a lot more casual than the regular clothes
in the first two movies. Everyone dressed kind of smartly, even for
just buying schoolbooks in Diagon Alley.

gjw

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Jul 29, 2003, 8:19:31 PM7/29/03
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On 29 Jul 2003 15:46:27 -0700, carme...@yahoo.com (Jule) wrote:

>
>Yes, it has got to be insanely annoying to Emma, Rupert and Dan when
>people plague them with questions about outgrowing their roles. 17-25
>is a malleable range for many actors. People think that if Dan is 22
>and playing 17-18, it'll be a tragedy. The kids aren't allowed a
>break, and they have to churn out a movie per year?? Jeez.

I suspect that most of those kind of questions are asked by media
interviewers who aren't really very familiar with the HP series.

They know that Harry is an 11-year-old kid when it starts out, and
they probably assume he's supposed to be an 11-year-old kid throughout
the entire series. They don't realize the characters age another year
in each book. So they're naturally curious about how on earth
20-year-old is going to get away with playing an 11-year-old...


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