Tulsa.. MHO
SK
>
> >really?! that's weird...what exactly qualifies it as "high-stress" I
> >wonder...
>
> this is what it said:
> "The Stress Factor"
> Foul weather, high suicide and divorce rates, lots of crime in the schools and
> on the streets: These are the things that make city living tough
You know, when I was there for Mayfest, it felt dirty to me. And the
people looked hard. By that, I mean calloused and removed, and more
flagrantly obscene. Even the people who were dressed decently seemed to
lack a softer edge that I find in my hometown. I just found it strange
that I live in Dallas, a larger city...but it was cleaner and more
gentle than Tulsa.
The graffiti there, a lot of it anyway, was religious in nature, also.
And I have never in my life seen so many churches. The per capita
church/people ratio has got to be high. Contrast that with all the
biker bars and more nightlife than we have in "Big D," and you have a
volatile mix of values. (Before anyone gets started, I'm not saying
that Bikers can't be deeply spiritual people.)
However, I was only in town for a few days...so it's only a short-term
observation. Just MHO. No offense meant to any T-town natives.
Steph
Larry G
the people in Oregon to be very friendly. I was visiting Oregon once and it
started raining and a shopkeeper pulled us into his shop to keep the rain
away. In California, most people would care less if you get rained on, lol.
Larry<--------------never been to Tulsa, been to Oklahoma City, but not
Tulsa.
Alexia wrote in message <19990805010509...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
> I thought Tulsa people were really nice. They were like extremely friendly
>compared to where i live where everyones a snob.
>sure they werent necessarily well-off, but they were so polite.
>
>I bet Dallas is like reeeally nice if you thought tulsa was bad.
>
> Alex
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Alexia
>people looked hard. By that, I mean calloused and removed, and more
>flagrantly obscene. Even the people who were dressed decently seemed to
>lack a softer edge that I find in my hometown. I just found it strange
>that I live in Dallas, a larger city...but it was cleaner and more
>gentle than Tulsa.
>
>The graffiti there, a lot of it anyway, was religious in nature, also.
>And I have never in my life seen so many churches. The per capita
>church/people ratio has got to be high. Contrast that with all the
>biker bars and more nightlife than we have in "Big D," and you have a
>volatile mix of values. (Before anyone gets started, I'm not saying
>that Bikers can't be deeply spiritual people.)
>
>However, I was only in town for a few days...so it's only a short-term
>observation. Just MHO. No offense meant to any T-town natives.
>
>Steph
>
julie
>people looked hard. By that, I mean calloused and removed, and more
>flagrantly obscene. Even the people who were dressed decently seemed to
>lack a softer edge that I find in my hometown. I just found it strange
>that I live in Dallas, a larger city...but it was cleaner and more
>gentle than Tulsa.
>
>The graffiti there, a lot of it anyway, was religious in nature, also.
>And I have never in my life seen so many churches. The per capita
>church/people ratio has got to be high. Contrast that with all the
>biker bars and more nightlife than we have in "Big D," and you have a
>volatile mix of values. (Before anyone gets started, I'm not saying
>that Bikers can't be deeply spiritual people.)
>
>However, I was only in town for a few days...so it's only a short-term
>observation. Just MHO. No offense meant to any T-town natives.
>
>Steph
Steph will re-write this after visiting me in CA...I know she wil...hehe
I loved Tulsa, the people seemed real and kind(even the bikers) and the area
was much prettier than I expected. It was so much cleaner than CA, I thought it
was normal to have trash everywhere...it was like entering a parallel universe.
P.S. Steph--I loved Dallas too.
Julie
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Alexia
>Then Tulsa must be the friendliest place on the planet then, because I found
>the people in Oregon to be very friendly. I was visiting Oregon once and it
>started raining and a shopkeeper pulled us into his shop to keep the rain
>away. In California, most people would care less if you get rained on, lol.
>
>Larry<--------------never been to Tulsa, been to Oklahoma City, but not
>Tulsa.
hehehe well... ok Oregonians are NICE.. But they are also SNOBS
But like.. the teenage boys in tulsa call all the women "ma'am"
that is so cool.
Michelle Loves Zac and Scott
maybe, I thought the people in Oklahoma VERY friendly! Back in June we were
driving to Texas for vacation and when you would pass a car from Oklahoma the
person would wave to us. I thought that was nice. Very different from people
here in the area of Ohio that I live.
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Alexia
>>the people in Oregon to be very friendly. I was visiting Oregon once and it
>>started raining and a shopkeeper pulled us into his shop to keep the rain
>>away. In California, most people would care less if you get rained on, lol.
>>
>>Larry<--------------never been to Tulsa, been to Oklahoma City, but not
>>Tulsa.
>
>hehehe well... ok Oregonians are NICE.. But they are also SNOBS
>
ok i just want to add..
it really depends on what town in oregon..
because say corvalis.. people are so nice.
but in Beaverton.. people are snobs.
Stephens
> But like.. the teenage boys in tulsa call all the women "ma'am"
> that is so cool.
they do that here [georgia] i think it's a southern thing.
zikkabop.
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the boys there in tulsa are the most SWEETEST and respectful young men shes
ever met lol! well compared here in CA hell yes!
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I guess everything is relative. There were some nice people...it was
just on the whole, there was less warmth and courtesy.
Steph
(hehe. Jules thought North Dallas was TOO clean! ROFL)
SK
> the boys there in tulsa are the most SWEETEST and respectful young men shes
> ever met lol! well compared here in CA hell yes!
Yeah, I've heard (right Jules?) that compared to CA, everyone is polite.
Steph
(AFH's resident grammarian, linguist, and stand-in for Emily Post.)
Simmy
> I thought Tulsa people were really nice. They were like extremely friendly
>compared to where i live where everyones a snob.
>sure they werent necessarily well-off, but they were so polite.
It depends on where you're from. I used to live in the same town as alex, and i
visited a couple months ago, and I was awe-stricken at how nice everyone was!
But thats compared to my stuck up new england town. Jess Rose has been here,
same with Han, you guys think have to admit everyone here is super pushy :-x
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Simmy
>Then Tulsa must be the friendliest place on the planet then, because I found
>the people in Oregon to be very friendly.
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Simmy
who's sister went to alex's high school.
Simmy
It's true.
My sister went to Beaverton High, she went to Law school in Eugene, and
whenever people asked where she went to high school, native oregonians would
say "ooh...I'm sorry."
however, compared to massachusetts, beaverton is supernice.
how sick is that?
MMMBopJenn
>driving to Texas for vacation and when you would pass a car from Oklahoma the
>person would wave to us. I thought that was nice. Very different from people
>here in the area of Ohio that I live.
>
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ooooo two states i can actually compare from experience ;-) ohio is a very
weird state... northeastern ohio is even weirder... you have like... half the
state is country land, and the other half, college town. people will sell you
out for a beer and a good party. but i don't know if people are downright mean
here... i mean, there's a fair share of friendly people (except people working
in fast food restaurants. i mean, you go down to west virginia, and they're
all smiling and "you have a nice day now, ya hee-uh?" here they like, throw
their food at you, and say, please drive through... well, except this one guy
at our local taco bell who always tries to sell me one of those star wars cups
by being all enthusiastic about it... but anyway, i digress...)
i didn't mind the city of tulsa. the biggest stressers for me were the
weather, and the highways. it's like you have to take a highway to get to each
portion of the city, because it's the only way to really get there without
taking the dreadful back roads (jess and i took one that took us out into dirt
roads, with no life within miles... we were very frightened). i had gone to
tulsa just a couple weeks or so after the bad tornados that hit oklahoma, so
everytime it looked like it was gonna storm, i got quite worried. i did see a
few areas that looked like "the slums", although the slums of cleveland are
much scarier... lol as far as the people go, i actually didn't really notice
much of a difference between people here and people there. although i did make
a friend on the plane going TO tulsa, with this little girl who was going back
home. she was so cute... hehehe and chatty as all hell. i tricked her into
saying she was a hanson fan by pretending i was flipping through the delta
airlines magazine, where the pic of bob weir and hanson popped up. then i was
like, "aren't these guys from tulsa?" :oXXX hehehe she was like, "yeah" and i
asked her if she was a fan. she said she went to one of their tulsa concerts
the previous year. then she flipped open her own delta magazine to look at the
article herself :-) hehehe
anyway... er... yeah... i'mdonenow :oX
jenn
...
what's the point of me being here
when being me is what i fear
...
MMMBopJenn
>that is so cool.
>
>
>*******
hehe they do that in a lot of towns down south, not just tulsa ;-) my mom
grew up in south carolina and her family still lives down there so we visit
about once a year. the entire time i was growing up, my sister and i would say
"huh?" or "what?" cuz that's what we learned up here, ya know? but down there,
every time we would say that, my uncle would correct us, and go "ma'am?"
"sir?" hehehehe itneveractuallyengraveditselfinoursculls
hanna
im not quite sure that "super pushy" really describes your town, sim. in
fact.. "super pushy" just doesnt do it justice at all.id probably have to say
that the following describe it better: "on crack".. "full of the scariest most
horrifying people in the world".. "the bad place".. long meadow is like the
place where parents threaten to send their kids who misbehave.
hanna
..
ambivalent? well, yes and no.
..
corinne: hi, are you john russell?
MMMBopJenn
>fact.. "super pushy" just doesnt do it justice at all.id probably have to say
>that the following describe it better: "on crack".. "full of the scariest
>most
>horrifying people in the world".. "the bad place".. long meadow is like the
>place where parents threaten to send their kids who misbehave.
>
>hanna
HAHAHAHAHAHA
"ima send you to long meadow if you don't eat your vegetables, jefferson!"
::wimpering:: "okay m-mommy, i will"
:oX
Simmy
>>im not quite sure that "super pushy" really describes your town, sim. in
>>fact.. "super pushy" just doesnt do it justice at all.id probably have to
>say
>>that the following describe it better: "on crack".. "full of the scariest
>>most
>>horrifying people in the world".. "the bad place".. long meadow is like the
>>place where parents threaten to send their kids who misbehave.
>>
>>hanna
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
>
>"ima send you to long meadow if you don't eat your vegetables, jefferson!"
>::wimpering:: "okay m-mommy, i will"
>
>:oX
actually... if you eat you're vegetables, we'll send you to longmeadow (its one
word dammit) to learn how to not eat them.
an insane amount of the girls in my school have an eating disorder.
people from surrounding towns hate us.
people joke about coming here to see the skinny girls in their expensive cars.
an all around terrifying place.
Larry G
to Oregon, maybe I'm glad I didn't, lol. Well, maybe on the freeway, if
that's "going to Beaverton". I was in Salem.
That's the way it is in California too, Different cities are different. I
don't want to mention any places because I don't want to offend anyone who
might live in those places, but I definitely know what you mean :). There
are numerous places in California full of snobs.
Larry
Alexia wrote in message <19990805014539...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
>>hehehe well... ok Oregonians are NICE.. But they are also SNOBS
>>
>
>ok i just want to add..
>it really depends on what town in oregon..
>because say corvalis.. people are so nice.
>but in Beaverton.. people are snobs.
>
Stephens
> That's the way it is in California too, Different cities are different. I
> don't want to mention any places because I don't want to offend anyone who
> might live in those places, but I definitely know what you mean :). There
> are numerous places in California full of snobs.
we went to cali when i was seven. the people in san jose were nice.
and the people in some parts of l.a. were snobby.
zikkabop.
Stephens
> hehe they do that in a lot of towns down south, not just tulsa ;-) my mom
> grew up in south carolina and her family still lives down there so we visit
> about once a year. the entire time i was growing up, my sister and i would say
> "huh?" or "what?" cuz that's what we learned up here, ya know? but down there,
> every time we would say that, my uncle would correct us, and go "ma'am?"
> "sir?" hehehehe itneveractuallyengraveditselfinoursculls
heh. -i- don't say yes sir or yes ma'am =X but i know a lot of guys
here who do... zack included, baybee. [if you will recall, zack is a
current local crush. not a mispell of zac hanson.]
zikkabop.
Alexia
>i
>visited a couple months ago, and I was awe-stricken at how nice everyone was!
hehe i know but still lol
ok.. i guess its like.. you cant judge a town by one person.
a lot of people here are really nice. I mean you walk down the street and
anyone you see says hi to you even if you dont know them.
But still.. if you get used to it, you tend to notice the rude people more.
Brittani
Well, you were probably downtown most of the time, correct? It's probably not
the best part of town. For example, where we went to eat at, Village Inn, that
area and on south is gorgeous. Most of the suburbs are really nice. Downtown
and part of north Tulsa just isn't the best part of town. Don't most cities
have a "bad part of town"?
>And the
>people looked hard. By that, I mean calloused and removed, and more
>flagrantly obscene.
Um... How come I've lived here 15 1/2 years and never seen anyone being
"removed". Everyone seems to be the complete opposite, always butting in
whether it's good or bad...
>Even the people who were dressed decently seemed to
>lack a softer edge that I find in my hometown.
Huh? That's kinda...I dunno. This whole thread just bothers me I guess.
>(Before anyone gets started, I'm not saying
>that Bikers can't be deeply spiritual people.)
>
Actually when I was at the Blue Rose a couple weeks ago, I thought the bikers I
was around were nice. It's one of those "don't judge a book by its cover"
things.
>However, I was only in town for a few days...so it's only a short-term
>observation. Just MHO. No offense meant to any T-town natives.
I understand that, but I'm seeing a lot of...bashing of the city. Frankly, it
upsets me. I don't understand why I've heard Hanson, Admiral Twin, and many
others express their admiration for the town and this thread doesn't seem to
have any good words about it. I guess everyone's missing something the rest of
us aren't.
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"And remember the light at the end of the tunnel may be you."
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Brittani
>portion of the city, because it's the only way to really get there without
>taking the dreadful back roads (jess and i took one that took us out into
>dirt
>roads, with no life within miles... we were very frightened).
umhi. Wherewereyouat? There's city streets everywhere. What about like 71st
street and Memorial and stuff...?
>i had gone to
>tulsa just a couple weeks or so after the bad tornados that hit oklahoma, so
>everytime it looked like it was gonna storm, i got quite worried.
My mom lived here her whole life and was never in a tornado til she went to
Nashville. The chances of actually being in one are pretty slim.
Alexia
I agree with Brittani.
You must live in a dreamland to think Tulsa's bad.
Alexia
>>that is so cool.
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>*******
>
>grew up in south carolina and her family still lives down there so we visit
>about once a year. the entire time i was growing up, my sister and i would
>say
>"huh?" or "what?" cuz that's what we learned up here, ya know? but down
>there,
>every time we would say that, my uncle would correct us, and go "ma'am?"
>"sir?" hehehehe itneveractuallyengraveditselfinoursculls
>
>...
Yeah but they're so nice.. like any guys there will let any women get in the
elevator first.
and they always say "pardon me ma'am" rather than "move b!tch"
:D
MMMBopJenn
>71st
>street and Memorial and stuff...?
we were out just past w.71st, i think. or maybe 81st. i can't remember. lol
it's okay britt, i even have streets in this town that i live in that lead out
to god only knows where. don't get so defensive, i'm not "dissing your
precious town"... LOL
>My mom lived here her whole life and was never in a tornado til she went to
>Nashville. The chances of actually being in one are pretty slim.
we had bad storms here last weekend, and i'm still scared they might come back.
sorry, it's a natural reaction of mine. you see storms create such damage and
there's not really anything you can do about it, and you get nervous that it'll
happen again. excuse me for being human...
MMMBopJenn
>elevator first.
>and they always say "pardon me ma'am" rather than "move b!tch"
>:D
>
> Alex
>*******
hahahahahaha sometimes they say "move b!tch" here too... hehehehe i guess
i've just gotten used to it :oX
VPKT
>i've just gotten used to it :oX
>
>jenn
>...
..and god forbid if you accidentally step on them. *scared*..Miami is not a
very friendly place
lol
*Nessi*
"There is a universal language, understood by everybody..but already
forgotten"-The Alchemist
MMMBopJenn
>very friendly place
>
>lol
>
>*Nessi*
>
lol you know what city surprised me, when it came to like... crime and stuff?
atlanta... i expected atlanta to be like, this nice, friendly, clean city, and
my aunt's husband, who lived down there for years, was like, "make sure you
don't go on this side of town... someone got shot at that gas station a couple
nights ago... oh, and don't go here either, because the gangs hang out here...
and don't go..." blah blah blah...
i don't think i've ever been to miami. i did go to orlando once, though, when
we went down to disney world. we got stuck in rush hour traffic (VERY bad,
indeed) we were stuck there for about two hours... yikes...
VPKT
>when
>we went down to disney world. we got stuck in rush hour traffic (VERY bad,
>indeed) we were stuck there for about two hours... yikes...
>
ooh traffic sucks here...Miami has beautiful places (Miami Beach, Key
Biscayne..Coral Gables..etc)..but the bad places..are REALLY bad..my best
friend's dad..he got mugged twice, and once our car stopped (no gas..oops..lol)
right in the middle of..EVERYTHING (prostitutes..drug dealers..etc)..I was
serisouly thinking I wasn't going to make it.
HiTzShOrTy
>each
>portion of the city,
OMG Jenn, I hated that too! There are highways EVERYWHERE to get to Broken
Arrow there were highways, We got lost once, but as soon as my mom saw the way
the high way worked we were fine. we got lost downtown, HAHA! It was fun! :-)
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Stephens
> lol you know what city surprised me, when it came to like... crime and stuff?
> atlanta... i expected atlanta to be like, this nice, friendly, clean city, and
> my aunt's husband, who lived down there for years, was like, "make sure you
> don't go on this side of town... someone got shot at that gas station a couple
> nights ago... oh, and don't go here either, because the gangs hang out here...
> and don't go..." blah blah blah...
atlanta. i like atlanta. i've been there many times. believe me, it's
not as bad as it sounds. there are a lot of nice places in atlanta,
that's just downtown, really. just whatever you do... never get caught
in traffic.
zikkabop.
Alexia
>to Oregon, maybe I'm glad I didn't, lol. Well, maybe on the freeway, if
>that's "going to Beaverton". I was in Salem.
>don't want to mention any places because I don't want to offend anyone who
>might live in those places, but I definitely know what you mean :). There
>are numerous places in California full of snobs.
>
Larry, Beaverton is not as bad as Im making it out to be hehe
People are nice here.. really nice. its just that since i am around it all the
time i notice when people are rude.
And Beaverton is a suburb of Portland.
Alexia
>
>how sick is that?
thats weird. i always thought that new england would be nice.
-PureDarkOne-
I think it is..i love CT and mass...and I have to admit, parts of Ri are nice,
but i love NH and Vermont..lol
I love new england
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probably depends on the different towns and people.
Larry
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VPKT
>probably depends on the different towns and people.
>
>Larry
>
I've heard wonderful things about NH
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>
i used to live in manchester, NH
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Noodle-Head
>>probably depends on the different towns and people.
>>
>>Larry
>>
>
>
my uncle lives in new hampshire, they are supernice, they let EVERYONE cross..
if they are in the cross walk or not, and no one really beeps at anyone (cept
for my dad, lol "i've lived here for 7 years and I've never heard anyone beep
until today at you" my uncle said to my dad :)
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to us, here in new york they don't talk to you. or maybe they were just sucking
up to us since we told them we were from new york lol.
Maria
call the teachers "sir" and "ma'am", they never call them by there name
or last name, like "Mr whatever".
MMMBopJenn wrote:
>
> >But like.. the teenage boys in tulsa call all the women "ma'am"
> >that is so cool.
> >
> >
> > Alex
> >*******
>
> hehe they do that in a lot of towns down south, not just tulsa ;-) my mom
> grew up in south carolina and her family still lives down there so we visit
> about once a year. the entire time i was growing up, my sister and i would say
> "huh?" or "what?" cuz that's what we learned up here, ya know? but down there,
> every time we would say that, my uncle would correct us, and go "ma'am?"
> "sir?" hehehehe itneveractuallyengraveditselfinoursculls
>
> jenn
> ...
> what's the point of me being here
> when being me is what i fear
> ...
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Noodle-Head
my grandmother said that one guy asked another for change at a car wash or
something, and the guy shot him.. she was telling us all these Orlando "horror"
stories. It was bad.
Aponi Alona
omg.. just come to where i live.. this is like snobville usa.. fairfield
county, connecticut is the highest class place in the country.. you walk by
someone and ask like for the time.. they pretend they dont hear you and walk by
with their nose in the air.. arrrrrrrf =P
hanna you would know how it is... i HATE it here!!!! <throws shovels>
cia
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dancing on the ground.. am I right side up or upside down, is it real or am i
dreaming?.*- dave matthews band
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---tori amos
..Ravena..
>county, connecticut is the highest class place in the country.. you walk by
>someone and ask like for the time.. they pretend they dont hear you and
walk by
>with their nose in the air.. arrrrrrrf =P
oh poo...that sucks..
we have some good friends that live in Fairfield, although they are really
nice. Must be a minority?!?!?
>hanna you would know how it is... i HATE it here!!!! <throws shovels>
>
:(
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>have a "bad part of town"?
Yes they do and it's usually near downtown.
> I'm seeing a lot of...bashing of the city. Frankly, it
>upsets me.
I'm a little late on reading this thread. Don't let it upset you Brittani, I
loved Tulsa. I think I have seen the entire town, there is good and bad, just
like every other town. Many parts of Tulsa are beautiful and the people were
very friendly too.
~ Patty
MMMBopJenn
>not as bad as it sounds. there are a lot of nice places in atlanta,
>that's just downtown, really. just whatever you do... never get caught
>in traffic.
>
>zikkabop.
>
traffic... in atlanta... is BAD, bad, i say. some truck driver ran us off the
road and we had to drive in the shoulder of the road for about a mile until he
moved up so we could get back on the highway...
grrrrrr