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Will in New Haven
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Will in New Haven
Penelope Periwinkle
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>Time to call in the fire and piss on the dogs.
Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
gloom forecast.
It's Christmas, and I'm busy, but I shall return to post noisily
and prolifically.
Penelope
Will in New Haven
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:13:53 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>
> >Time to call in the fire and piss on the dogs.
>
> Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
> gloom forecast.
>
> It's Christmas, and I'm busy, but I shall return to post noisily
> and prolifically.
I await your return eagerly.
Arno
Ah, Christmas, the time to hide under a stone or in a cave and wait
until the crazies have vanished again....
Arno
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Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
> > gloom forecast.
Heh, yeah. He's dependable like that.
> > It's Christmas, and I'm busy, but I shall return to post noisily
> > and prolifically.
>
> I await your return eagerly.
Gah, so much crap to do and only a couple of days to do it, and the
roads are snowed in so getting anywhere takes hours and the buses are
basically dead in the water. Why they're in the water in the first
place is a mystery, but that's Helsinki for you.
I too will return as soon as possible, Janica is still suffering from
the morning queasies so we're finding it difficult to grab the time to
sit and post (other than, you know, here at the office).
Any atheist who stood by his or her convictions solidly enough to be
worthy of my respect would work through Christmas. This is why I
respect so few of them. Man, am I not looking forward to braving the
Christmas-shopping crowds. Then again, serves me right for not buying
presents earlier.
C@w
--
I've still got until Wednesday night, right?
Penelope Periwinkle
Fantabulous Webomophone <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>, Janica is still suffering from
>the morning queasies
Wait...what?
>Any atheist who stood by his or her convictions solidly enough to be
>worthy of my respect would work through Christmas. This is why I
>respect so few of them. Man, am I not looking forward to braving the
>Christmas-shopping crowds. Then again, serves me right for not buying
>presents earlier.
yeah, I used to work with a group of Jehovah's Witnesses, and
they would never work Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other
holiday so those of us who lived out of town could be with our
families. We got equal time off as well as holiday pay, so it
wasn't like they were losing any leave time.
Penelope
Will in New Haven
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:06:08 -0800 (PST), Chucky and the
>
> >, Janica is still suffering from
> >the morning queasies
>
> Wait...what?
I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>
> >Any atheist who stood by his or her convictions solidly enough to be
> >worthy of my respect would work through Christmas. This is why I
> >respect so few of them.
What utter bullshit. How does one work through Christmas when the
office is closed. That said, I have often worked through holidays when
I was self-employed.
Man, am I not looking forward to braving the
> >Christmas-shopping crowds. Then again, serves me right for not buying
> >presents earlier.
>
> yeah, I used to work with a group of Jehovah's Witnesses, and
> they would never work Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other
> holiday so those of us who lived out of town could be with our
> families. We got equal time off as well as holiday pay, so it
> wasn't like they were losing any leave time.
What do Witnesses have to do with atheists? All kinds of theists
celebrate different holidays. Thanksgiving is a community holiday and
not a religious celebration.
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > >, Janica is still suffering from
> > >the morning queasies
>
> > Wait...what?
>
> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
Oh, right.
Heh, surprise.
> > >Any atheist who stood by his or her convictions solidly enough to be
> > >worthy of my respect would work through Christmas. This is why I
> > >respect so few of them.
>
> What utter bullshit.
It's not bullshit. If you're all trendy and unbelieving, then don't
celebrate holy days.
> How does one work through Christmas when the
> office is closed.
Allowances can be made. We are a global community. Plus, at least in
my neck of the woods, the office is open if you turn up with a key and
go in and switch on your computer.
There may be an issue with payroll, billing hours onto a day when the
office is officially closed, but like I say, allowances can be made.
You can always bill the time elsewhere and at least stand on some
principles for a change. I don't know, it was just a throw-away line
to make the trendy atheist fundamentalists foam a bit.
Plus, I think it's the atheist's inalienable right. I don't have to
fast on Ramadan (although Allah knows, it might be a good idea), why
should atheists have to stay at home and indulge in a mercilessly over-
commercialised bastardisation of much-hated Christian ritual just
because their employers are Jesus-freaks?
Funny how I've never heard of any class-action lawsuits (or whatever
they'd be, where's Herb when you need him?) demanding that atheists be
allowed to work on holy days rather than be forced to endure a lube-
free buggering with the Christ-pineapple. Seems like the sort of thing
people (for "people" read "complete fucking morons") should complain
about, since they complain about their kids having to do Nativity
plays at school.
> That said, I have often worked through holidays when
> I was self-employed.
Right on. I'd do the same, except I don't believe in atheism and I
like having time off and getting presents and stuff.
Of course, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying atheists aren't entitled
to days off or presents. They could have their own special days. You
know, Random Chaos Day; Nothingover; Shit Just Happened For No Reason
Eve.
> > yeah, I used to work with a group of Jehovah's Witnesses, and
> > they would never work Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other
> > holiday so those of us who lived out of town could be with our
> > families. We got equal time off as well as holiday pay, so it
> > wasn't like they were losing any leave time.
>
> What do Witnesses have to do with atheists?
Not quite sure of the link myself, but it's a point well-made. People
get all up in arms about religious types taking their phoney-baloney
holidays, but when there's a big homogenous sort of Western Hegemony
holiday, like Christmas or Easter, watch the atheists bite their
tongues and eat the fucking chocolate that Jesus died to give us.
Actually, Western Hegemony Day sounds cool. I could almost convert to
atheism for that - although I don't care for their baptism rituals.
C@w
--
In case you didn't get the picture, atheism is a religion.
You know, like "paganism".
Will in New Haven
>
> C@w
> --
> In case you didn't get the picture, atheism is a religion.
No, it isn't. Insisting that eveyrone is a weakling sissy who has to
have a daddy-figure doesn't make it true.
>
> You know, like "paganism".
There are many kinds of paganism.
Oh, and I'm not an athiest. I am a "let the fucking mystery Be" is.
Our credo is "Who the heck KNOWS?"
Penelope Periwinkle
They don't celebrate any holidays, not birthdays, religious
holidays like Christmas, or national holidays like 4th of July.
No holidays, no celebrations, they're all considered pagan. In my
experience, they seemed to view holidays as a chance to ruin
everyone else's chance to celebrate.
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
Fantabulous Webomophone <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 22 joulu, 21:20, Will in New Haven
><bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>
>> > >, Janica is still suffering from
>> > >the morning queasies
>>
>> > Wait...what?
>>
>> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
>> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>
>Oh, right.
>
>Heh, surprise.
>
Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
*stops and thinks*
Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
Penelope
Will in New Haven
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:20:10 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>
I certainly don't like that sort of attitude. I have sincerely wished
every well-meaning person who celebrates the holiday a Merry Christmas
at least since I was eight or nine years old and had an argument with
my bigoted grandmother about it. She took a simple "Merry Christmas"
to mean "I accept the divinity of Christ and all that goes with it."
But it doesn't mean that. It means "I want my friends and neighbors to
be happy in this season." Some of my favorite memories are of working
in a bookstore at Christmas time and of listening to my musically-
talented cousins sing "Silver Bells."
I would wish you a Merry Christmas even if I didn't secretly want to
fuck you.
Will in New Haven
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:58:45 -0800 (PST), Chucky and the
>
>
>
>
>
> Fantabulous Webomophone <st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 22 joulu, 21:20, Will in New Haven
> ><bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>
> >> > >, Janica is still suffering from
> >> > >the morning queasies
>
> >> > Wait...what?
>
> >> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
> >> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>
> >Oh, right.
>
> >Heh, surprise.
>
> Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
From what I have been told and observed the morning stuff is an early-
pregnancy phenomenon. However, that involved a HUMAN father.
>
> *stops and thinks*
>
> Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
Congratulations both of the parents to be. And Merry Christmas to
all.
--
Will in New Haven
>
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Madalch
<st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Plus, I think it's the atheist's inalienable right. I don't have to
> fast on Ramadan (although Allah knows, it might be a good idea), why
> should atheists have to stay at home and indulge in a mercilessly over-
> commercialised bastardisation of much-hated Christian ritual just
> because their employers are Jesus-freaks?
Christmas isn't a "much-hated Christian ritual". It's not even
Christian- it's a solstice celebration with a thin veneer of
religiosity covering it.
Regardless of its source, we all deserve a few days to relax and spend
time with the family, don't we?
> since they complain about their kids having to do Nativity
> plays at school.
I'm not happy when someone tries to teach my kids about their sick
death-cult. If you have a fetish about some godling sacrificing his
son to appease his own appetite for blood, keep it to yourself. Just
like I don't want you trying to show my eight-year-old Alien, rape
scenes, or pornography.
> Not quite sure of the link myself, but it's a point well-made. People
> get all up in arms about religious types taking their phoney-baloney
> holidays, but when there's a big homogenous sort of Western Hegemony
> holiday, like Christmas or Easter, watch the atheists bite their
> tongues and eat the fucking chocolate that Jesus died to give us.
Easter is another weather celebration, based on the vernal equinox.
Nothing to do with Jesus, regardless of whether or not he lived, died,
existed, or gave a rat's ass. That's why it's celebrated with bunnies
and eggs (fertility symbols) rather than children waking up and
looking for happily-decorated crucifixion nails.
Penelope Periwinkle
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>On Dec 23, 11:09�am, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:20:10 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>>
>> <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 22, 8:36�am, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> yeah, I used to work with a group of Jehovah's Witnesses, and
>> >> they would never work Christmas or Thanksgiving or any other
>> >> holiday so those of us who lived out of town could be with our
>> >> families. We got equal time off as well as holiday pay, so it
>> >> wasn't like they were losing any leave time.
>>
>> >What do Witnesses have to do with atheists? All kinds of theists
>> >celebrate different holidays. Thanksgiving is a community holiday and
>> >not a religious celebration.
>>
>> They don't celebrate any holidays, not birthdays, religious
>> holidays like Christmas, or national holidays like 4th of July.
>> No holidays, no celebrations, they're all considered pagan. In my
>> experience, they seemed to view holidays as a chance to ruin
>> everyone else's chance to celebrate.
>
>I certainly don't like that sort of attitude. I have sincerely wished
>every well-meaning person who celebrates the holiday a Merry Christmas
>at least since I was eight or nine years old and had an argument with
>my bigoted grandmother about it. She took a simple "Merry Christmas"
>to mean "I accept the divinity of Christ and all that goes with it."
*nods*
In my experience, most Christians speak and act from an assumed
privilege, that their personal version of Christianity supercedes
all others. And they feel wounded and persecuted if one attempts,
no matter how politely, to disagree,.
>But it doesn't mean that. It means "I want my friends and neighbors to
>be happy in this season." Some of my favorite memories are of working
>in a bookstore at Christmas time and of listening to my musically-
>talented cousins sing "Silver Bells."
There are so very many holidays and celebrations this time of
year, I sincerely tell people "Happy Holidays".
>
>I would wish you a Merry Christmas even if I didn't secretly want to
>fuck you.
*blush*
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
>Penelope Periwinkle <penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:13:53 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>> <bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>
>>>Time to call in the fire and piss on the dogs.
>
>
>> Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
>> gloom forecast.
>
>> It's Christmas, and I'm busy, but I shall return to post noisily
>> and prolifically.
>
>Ah, Christmas, the time to hide under a stone or in a cave and wait
>until the crazies have vanished again....
I was rather pleased that I managed all my holiday shopping
without setting foot in a mall or big box store. The only actual
stores I set foot in where a pet store and a back packing store,
both of which I pass on my way to and from work.
Sadly, I was forced to enter the vicinity of a mall after
Christmas to go and see 'Avatar", but I suppose it was worth it.
Penelope
Chucky & Janica
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>> In case you didn't get the picture, atheism is a religion.
>
>No, it isn't.
Sure it is. It's just a crap one full of whiners. Otherwise I might
believe in it.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >, Janica is still suffering from
>>> > >the morning queasies
>>>
>>> > Wait...what?
>>>
>>> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
>>> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>>
>>Oh, right.
>>
>>Heh, surprise.
>
>Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
Many thanks! Now we just have to hang on and hope for the best.
The sickness seems to be fading, but every time I say that it seems to
get worse again. Or maybe it's just when I say "soon you might be well
enough to help make the dinner again".
*is modern and sensitive*
>*stops and thinks*
>
>Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
Oh, to you as well?
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>> Oh, congratulations! �And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
>
>From what I have been told and observed the morning stuff is an early-
>pregnancy phenomenon. However, that involved a HUMAN father.
Yeah, it was meant to stop around Week 12, but here we are about to
kick into Week 16 and there's still a rumpus going on in the Hindle
Babyworks.
Whatever non-human genes I'm passing on, nauseating tenacity is
clearly a marker. As arguments on this group can illustrate.
>> *stops and thinks*
>>
>> Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
>
>Congratulations both of the parents to be. And Merry Christmas to
>all.
Many thanks and I'll see your Merry Christmas and raise you a Happy
Freaking New Year.
2010. Unbelievable, and I still have no flying car.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>I'm not happy when someone tries to teach my kids about their sick
>death-cult. If you have a fetish about some
*relaxes*
See? This is what I was waiting for.
*tosses some chestnuts onto Madalch*
*actually my own nuts, onto Madalch's chest ... it's a form of Welcome
Wagon Dance*
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I would wish you a Merry Christmas even if I didn't secretly want to
>>fuck you.
>
>*blush*
Isn't he just a sweety pie. Or, at least, a sweaty pie.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sadly, I was forced to enter the vicinity of a mall after
>Christmas to go and see 'Avatar", but I suppose it was worth it.
I hear lots of bad things about this movie.
C&J
Will in New Haven
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:04:20 -0500, Penelope Periwinkle
>
> >Sadly, I was forced to enter the vicinity of a mall after
> >Christmas to go and see 'Avatar", but I suppose it was worth it.
>
> I hear lots of bad things about this movie.
>
There _are_ many bad things but there are also too many _good_ things
for it to make sense to miss the movie.
Madalch
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:11:29 -0800 (PST), Madalch <tress...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'm not happy when someone tries to teach my kids about their sick
> >death-cult. If you have a fetish about some
>
> *relaxes*
>
> See? This is what I was waiting for.
>
> *tosses some chestnuts onto Madalch*
>
> *actually my own nuts, onto Madalch's chest ... it's a form of Welcome
*Pulls out the Christmas nutcracker, and crushes them until GRRM
himself stops by and says, "Dude- that's too much violence!"*
Will in New Haven
wrote:
No need to blush, m'lady, I kept it secret, after all.
Penelope Periwinkle
I think it's less about whining and atheistic devotedness and
more about reactionaryism. Folks in Finland are mostly sensible
about religion, correct? Well, that's not true for all of us. I
live on the pimple bedecked bottom right under the Bible Belt. If
there is a foul and silly sounding religious emission in this
country, it either came from this part of the country, or from
someone with bunches and bunches of followers in this part of the
country. I mean, this is the state that had to have the federal
courts slap down an effort to put a stained glass window with the
words "I believe" on a special license plate.
Living where I do, I find I have to remind myself that not all
Christians are bloviating bigoted dumbasses almost constantly.
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
Oh, it was full of plenty of tropes and cliches, but it was still
fun. I enjoyed it.
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
<janica...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:11:55 -0500, Penelope Periwinkle
><penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> > >, Janica is still suffering from
>>>> > >the morning queasies
>>>>
>>>> > Wait...what?
>>>>
>>>> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
>>>> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>>>
>>>Oh, right.
>>>
>>>Heh, surprise.
>>
>>Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
>
>Many thanks! Now we just have to hang on and hope for the best.
>
>The sickness seems to be fading, but every time I say that it seems to
>get worse again. Or maybe it's just when I say "soon you might be well
>enough to help make the dinner again".
I find that phrase can set my stomach to churning, and I'm not
even pregnant. Poor Janica, some women take longer to get over
the queasies.do be sure and pass on my best wishes.
>*is modern and sensitive*
>
>>*stops and thinks*
>>
>>Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
>
>Oh, to you as well?
Well, I keep trying to remind myself that Janica will be
involved. I find that very reassuring.
Penelope
Penelope Periwinkle
Ew. Too late. they touched you.
Now you're gonna get morning sickness, too.
Penelope
Madalch
> I think it's less about whining and atheistic devotedness and
> more about reactionaryism. Folks in Finland are mostly sensible
> about religion, correct?
That's probably why Chucky dismisses the viewpoint as "trendiness".
If all the people around him are atheist, then they can't possibly
have reached that conclusion by considering the evidence, they're just
jumping on the bandwagon and are automagically wrong. Therefore,
Chucky will decide to be a Christian.
If Chucky were to move to the heart (or whichever organ) of the Bible
Belt, he'd decide that all the Christians were just being trendy and
annoying, so he'd become a Wiccan or a Muslim or something (or he'd
invent the religion of Wiccslam), just to show his pseudo-intellectual
rejection of whatever is "trendy".
Penelope Periwinkle
Hey, did I mention I adopted a new pup? She's about 6 months old,
An Aussie or Aussie mix and her time was almost up at the pound,
so I bailed her out. I thought she was younger and was going to
get bigger, but I guess she's going to stay small. I also thought
she was smiling at me, but it turns out she's just got a wicked
underbite.
After two weeks, I'm still working on a name. She was nothing but
skin and bones when I brought her home, and she'd just had her
spay surgery. It's taken her two weeks to get healthy enough for
her personality to start coming through. I'm leaning towards
Josephine at this point.
Isabelle is delighted to have a new play buddy, and even the old
lady, Abigail doesn't seem to mind the little girl.
You can go to my LJ and see pictures of the whole clan.
http://pperiwinkle.livejournal.com/
Penelope
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
> > I think it's less about whining and atheistic devotedness and
> > more about reactionaryism. Folks in Finland are mostly sensible
> > about religion, correct?
>
> That's probably why Chucky dismisses the viewpoint as "trendiness".
In most cases, it happens to be true. I accept that a lot of people
truly don't feel the need to believe in anything greater than
humanity, but I also accept that a lot of people aren't rejecting the
idea of faith, but rather striking out against organised religion
itself, possibly out of some specific dislike of a specific group or
belief.
It's sort of like the opposite of killing the messenger. By all means,
kill the messenger. Especially if the messenger is standing there on
TV and saying "well the message said this, but I think it means this
instead. Kill those guys and give me money."
Blaming religion for the world's ills is sort of like blaming sex for
AIDS. Sure - among morons sex might assist the spread of the disease,
but it's still retarded to blame something ultimately positive.
> If all the people around him are atheist, then they can't possibly
> have reached that conclusion by considering the evidence, they're just
> jumping on the bandwagon and are automagically wrong. Therefore,
> Chucky will decide to be a Christian.
Thank you for so poorly analysing my motives.
Janica is a Christian. In fact most of the people around me are
Christian.
I'm not sure if I'm Christian or indeed any kind of branded religion.
I don't buy into guilt or damnation or rituals, and I am really
beginning to chafe at the idea that my kid can't have the "Godfather"
I would choose for him or her simply because said "Godfather" is not
baptised.
But I am definitely anti-atheist, for the same reason a lot of people
are anti-Christian: so many of them are loudmouthed morons, and they
give the reasonable ones a bad name because the reasonable ones just
believe what they believe and do it quietly and inoffensively. So yes,
I accept that this is a bigotry I need to get over.
> If Chucky were to move to the heart (or whichever organ) of the Bible
> Belt, he'd decide that all the Christians were just being trendy and
> annoying,
Hm. No. No I wouldn't.
>so he'd become a Wiccan or a Muslim or something (or he'd
> invent the religion of Wiccslam), just to show his pseudo-intellectual
> rejection of whatever is "trendy".
Wow. You really suck at this.
If you want to psychoanalyse, here's some fodder for you. My dad is a
militant atheist, one of the loudest and most obnoxious you would ever
care to meet. He recently wrote a letter to a local newspaper on the
topic of our shiny new Australian Saint, and her miracles, where he
equated religion with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy, and finished it
all off with his real name and real address.
The main concern here is that any knee-jerk reactions from religious
morons will probably hit not just him, but the rest of the family, but
that was just the usual lack of thinking classic in the Hindle male.
Now I wouldn't say I get along great with my dad, but I hardly think I
would convert to Christianity just to stick it to him, and I wouldn't
say my attitude towards militant atheists stems entirely from his
idiocy, although it certainly helps and has been getting markedly
worse in the past 10 years or so.
I'm also pretty sure that whatever attitudes he has towards religion
have rubbed off on me over the course of 20-odd years living under his
roof. All I really know is that he didn't really peddle one idea over
another when I was younger, letting his kids make up their own minds.
Now we're all out of the nest, I guess he's decided to let loose.
So yeah, you be the judge of where I should end up. You're obviously
in need of practice, and now at least you have something to go on.
C@w
--
And my dad is from a religious family, and has some otherwise pretty
good reasons for being a militant atheist. Interesting ones, too.
It doesn't make him right, let alone smart.
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
> > *relaxes*
>
> > See? This is what I was waiting for.
>
> > *tosses some chestnuts onto Madalch*
>
> > *actually my own nuts, onto Madalch's chest ... it's a form of Welcome
>
> *Pulls out the Christmas nutcracker, and crushes them until GRRM
> himself stops by and says, "Dude- that's too much violence!"*
Ha ha ha! "No, it's too perilous."
C@w
--
"I bet you're gay."
"No I'm not."
Morgoth's Curse
Permit me to echo that sentiment.
Congratulations, Chucky and Janica!
As I do not have children, you will not be receiving any parenting
advice from me.
I will, however, offer you the most important advice you will ever
receive.
Are you ready? This is critical information and it is vital that you
imprint it on your brain.
If it happens to be a boy, do not name him Michael.
Michael is the worse name you can bestow on a boy. It is safer to
name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
Jackson movies while sipping mocha-flavored cappuccino.
No, you want to be sure to give your child a cool, manly name. Say,
for example, Tyrion or Eddard or Jon or Stannis.
Good luck!
Morgoth's Curse
Arno
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:11:55 -0500, Penelope Periwinkle
> <penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:58:45 -0800 (PST), Chucky and the
>>Fantabulous Webomophone <st.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 22 joulu, 21:20, Will in New Haven
>>><bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > >, Janica is still suffering from
>>>> > >the morning queasies
>>>>
>>>> > Wait...what?
>>>>
>>>> I echo your sentiments. It sounds like, and I shudder at the thought,
>>>> Chucky may be, no I can't even bear to SAY it.
>>>
>>>Oh, right.
>>>
>>>Heh, surprise.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
>>
>>
>>*stops and thinks*
>>
>>
>>Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
> Permit me to echo that sentiment.
> Congratulations, Chucky and Janica!
From me too!
[...]
> name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
> Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
> fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
> will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
Arno
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Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
Will in New Haven
Penelope Periwinkle
>Morgoth's Curse <morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>[...]
>> name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
>> Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
>> fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
>> will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
>
>Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
Enya is intensely disliked by men with very small penises.
It is known.
Penelope
Will in New Haven
> On 8 Jan 2010 19:54:23 GMT, Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >[...]
> >> name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
> >> Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
> >> fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
> >> will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
>
> >Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
>
> Enya is intensely disliked by men with very small penises.
>
> It is known.
If you add "and most other people" that would be correct.
Penelope Periwinkle
Sure, most other people with small penises.
Penelope
Will in New Haven
Musical taste generally doesn't correlate with physical factors. I
don't know why you're so defensive about Enya. I mean, no one is
saying _you_ shouldn't listen to Enya.
--
Will in New Haven
Penelope Periwinkle
I don't hate you for having a small penis.
Penelope
Chucky & Janica
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Oh, congratulations! And I hope Janica is feeling better soon.
>>
>>
>>*stops and thinks*
>>
>>Although the thought of you being a father is kinda scary.
>
>Permit me to echo that sentiment.
>
>Congratulations, Chucky and Janica!
Thanks, chief.
>As I do not have children, you will not be receiving any parenting
>advice from me.
Bummer. You know, a co-worker and I were in the middle of writing a
parenting tips book from the point of view of non-parents, just
because we loved to watch parents huff and splutter and get all
humourless cuntfish when we told them about it.
Now, I have to hang up my pen.
>I will, however, offer you the most important advice you will ever
>receive.
>
>Are you ready? This is critical information and it is vital that you
>imprint it on your brain.
This isn't advice, it's a question!
>If it happens to be a boy, do not name him Michael.
Oh, this is it?
>Michael is the worse name you can bestow on a boy. It is safer to
>name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
>Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
>fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
>will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
>Jackson movies while sipping mocha-flavored cappuccino.
I don't know, that sounds an awful lot like his dad right now.
But "Michael" may be a little difficult for the Finnish side of the
family to pronounce. We have to think of all sides. At best, it would
be "Mikael", and that might just be too Russian.
Plus, Janica has had lots of students over the years who have gone by
the name of Mikael, and she sort of has this thing about not naming
the kid after any students she had had to teach in the past.
So far, we're running with "Blob". Or "Oompah Loompah".
>No, you want to be sure to give your child a cool, manly name. Say,
>for example, Tyrion or Eddard or Jon or Stannis.
>
>Good luck!
Aegon?
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<penp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>After two weeks, I'm still working on a name. She was nothing but
>skin and bones when I brought her home, and she'd just had her
>spay surgery. It's taken her two weeks to get healthy enough for
>her personality to start coming through. I'm leaning towards
>Josephine at this point.
>
>Isabelle is delighted to have a new play buddy, and even the old
>lady, Abigail doesn't seem to mind the little girl.
>
>You can go to my LJ and see pictures of the whole clan.
>http://pperiwinkle.livejournal.com/
I checked it out, it's nice to see another dog person in this world of
cats and other feral creatures. We domesticated the dog, and not the
cat, for a reason. To take a cat into your house rather than a dog is
to piss on 50,000 years of human culture.
And incidentally, the cat will also piss on it.
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>> >Sadly, I was forced to enter the vicinity of a mall after
>> >Christmas to go and see 'Avatar", but I suppose it was worth it.
>>
>> I hear lots of bad things about this movie.
>
>There _are_ many bad things but there are also too many _good_ things
>for it to make sense to miss the movie.
We're going to try and check it out this week. My parents went to see
it and said it was great, and they *never* say that about science
fiction movies.
Plus, it's a massively expensive special effects flick in 3D. Why see
it on DVD?
C&J
Morgoth's Curse
<janica...@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
>>Michael is the worse name you can bestow on a boy. It is safer to
>>name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
>>Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
>>fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
>>will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
>>Jackson movies while sipping mocha-flavored cappuccino.
>
>I don't know, that sounds an awful lot like his dad right now.
>
>But "Michael" may be a little difficult for the Finnish side of the
>family to pronounce. We have to think of all sides. At best, it would
>be "Mikael", and that might just be too Russian.
>
>Plus, Janica has had lots of students over the years who have gone by
>the name of Mikael, and she sort of has this thing about not naming
>the kid after any students she had had to teach in the past.
>
>So far, we're running with "Blob". Or "Oompah Loompah".
Heh. You could do worse. I am ashamed to say it, but there are
actually nimrods in my country who named their son Adolf Hitler! I
remember a discussion in a different forum about whether that
constituted child abuse and whether the children should given to
foster families. I wholeheartedly concurred: Anyone who would do
that to an innocent child does not _deserve_ to be a parent.
Morgoth's Curse
Will in New Haven
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:07:29 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>
>
>
> >On Jan 9, 9:55 pm, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 17:49:30 -0800 (PST), Will in New Haven
>
> >> <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jan 9, 8:28 pm, Penelope Periwinkle <penpe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On 8 Jan 2010 19:54:23 GMT, Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >[...]
> >> >> >> name him Judas Iscariot or Lucifer or Beelzebub. If you name him
> >> >> >> Michael, you will call down on his head all of the curses of Heaven,
> >> >> >> fate, karma or whatever cosmic mechanism governs the universe. He
> >> >> >> will grow up to be a pansy who listens to Enya and watches Peter
>
> >> >> >Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
>
> >> >> Enya is intensely disliked by men with very small penises.
>
> >> >> It is known.
>
> >> >If you add "and most other people" that would be correct.
>
> >> Sure, most other people with small penises.
>
> >Musical taste generally doesn't correlate with physical factors. I
> >don't know why you're so defensive about Enya. I mean, no one is
> >saying _you_ shouldn't listen to Enya.
>
> I don't hate you for having a small penis.
As long as you are thinking about it, my penis is happy.
Madalch
> Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
It's a terrible name for a boy.
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>> Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
>
>It's a terrible name for a boy.
What about Benya?
C&J
Chucky & Janica
<morgoths...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am ashamed to say it, but there are
>actually nimrods in my country who named their son Adolf Hitler! I
>remember a discussion in a different forum about whether that
>constituted child abuse and whether the children should given to
>foster families. I wholeheartedly concurred: Anyone who would do
>that to an innocent child does not _deserve_ to be a parent.
See, in Finland, there are some rules about what you're allowed to
call your kids. It's not a really strict rule - there are still
Gandalfs, Legoli and at least one Optimus out there - but at least it
means there are no Hitlers.
C&J
Ben
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:41:58 -0800 (PST), Madalch <tress...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Hey, what is wrong with Enya???
>
> >It's a terrible name for a boy.
>
> What about Benya?
>
sort of sick statement (like your Legoli and Optimus). But Benya? That
kid will get beat on so bad his parents won't recognize him!
Ben
Will in New Haven
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:36:36 -0600, Morgoth's Curse
>
That's the kind of rule that seems harmless enough but would force me
to name the kid something really awful, like Chuck. She might not like
it but we gotta stick it to the man. Seriously, that is one of those
''it isn't any of your fucking business" rules. But I never name kids.
I leave that to the mother and her husband. Just like supporting the
little b*stards and sending them to college.
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > See, in Finland, there are some rules about what you're allowed to
> > call your kids. It's not a really strict rule - there are still
> > Gandalfs, Legoli and at least one Optimus out there - but at least it
> > means there are no Hitlers.
>
> That's the kind of rule that seems harmless enough but would force me
> to name the kid something really awful, like Chuck. She might not like
> it but we gotta stick it to the man. Seriously, that is one of those
> ''it isn't any of your fucking business" rules.
I'm sorry, but "it isn't any of your business" is the sort of attitude
that gets kids cigarette-burned, pimped out to drug dealers and
convinced that a two-party system is the only way to go.
You might consider it a slippery slope, and on some level I agree with
you. Where does the government interference end? But when a parent
calls their kid Adolf Hitler or Worthless Fuck, then it stops being
the parent's business and becomes the business of someone more
qualified. Like I said, this law isn't stopping the parent from naming
their kid something extremely silly. But it draws the line at some
point.
This would all be solved if people had to pass a test before breeding.
Not a difficult test, for fuck's sake, just ... a bit of sanity, is
that too much to ask?
> But I never name kids.
> I leave that to the mother and her husband. Just like supporting the
> little b*stards and sending them to college.
*sudden realisation*
Hey ... hey! Have you had sex with a woman who was married to another
man? I never knew. Tell us about it. Then I will know ... *counts on
fingers* ... two things about you.
C@w
--
The other being that you can't spell "Foster's".
*grin*
Will in New Haven
<st.chu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20 tammi, 16:43, Will in New Haven
>
> <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > > See, in Finland, there are some rules about what you're allowed to
> > > call your kids. It's not a really strict rule - there are still
> > > Gandalfs, Legoli and at least one Optimus out there - but at least it
> > > means there are no Hitlers.
>
> > That's the kind of rule that seems harmless enough but would force me
> > to name the kid something really awful, like Chuck. She might not like
> > it but we gotta stick it to the man. Seriously, that is one of those
> > ''it isn't any of your fucking business" rules.
>
> I'm sorry, but "it isn't any of your business" is the sort of attitude
> that gets kids cigarette-burned, pimped out to drug dealers and
> convinced that a two-party system is the only way to go.
>
> You might consider it a slippery slope, and on some level I agree with
> you. Where does the government interference end? But when a parent
> calls their kid Adolf Hitler or Worthless Fuck, then it stops being
> the parent's business and becomes the business of someone more
> qualified. Like I said, this law isn't stopping the parent from naming
> their kid something extremely silly. But it draws the line at some
> point.
I'm pretty sure that someone who named a kid, for example, "Worthless
Fuck" should have the kid taken away. My desire to leave people alone
to do what they want does run up against the fact that you can't let
people mistreat kids. And, as you say, they are pretty lenient about
merely silly names. But you do admit that there is some potential for
the state overstepping its bounds here (note, "the state," refers to
government, not to the political units that make up the U.S.)
--
Will in New Haven
>
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
<bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
> > > That's the kind of rule that seems harmless enough but would force me
> > > to name the kid something really awful, like Chuck. She might not like
> > > it but we gotta stick it to the man. Seriously, that is one of those
> > > ''it isn't any of your fucking business" rules.
>
> > I'm sorry, but "it isn't any of your business" is the sort of attitude
> > that gets kids cigarette-burned, pimped out to drug dealers and
> > convinced that a two-party system is the only way to go.
>
> > You might consider it a slippery slope, and on some level I agree with
> > you. Where does the government interference end? But when a parent
> > calls their kid Adolf Hitler or Worthless Fuck, then it stops being
> > the parent's business and becomes the business of someone more
> > qualified. Like I said, this law isn't stopping the parent from naming
> > their kid something extremely silly. But it draws the line at some
> > point.
>
> I'm pretty sure that someone who named a kid, for example, "Worthless
> Fuck" should have the kid taken away. My desire to leave people alone
> to do what they want does run up against the fact that you can't let
> people mistreat kids.
*nod*
> And, as you say, they are pretty lenient about
> merely silly names.
*nod*
> But you do admit that there is some potential for
> the state overstepping its bounds here
The great thing is, when that happens, we can do something about it.
> (note, "the state," refers to
> government, not to the political units that make up the U.S.)
Ah, you're a sly one Mr. Reich. I seem to recall we've been there
before.
C@w
--
I miss Herb.
Will in New Haven
When the government has such a power it often turns out that democracy
is not enough protection, especially of the government is acting
against a minority, ethnic or religious or political. The policy in
France of not delivering mail if the address is in Breton could be
extended to not allowing people to give their children names in Breton
or Basque or Lang d'Oc some other minority language. The people of
France might reject such tyranny but they might not.They might like it
or, more likely, they might not bother to oppose it.
> > (note, "the state," refers to
> > government, not to the political units that make up the U.S.)
>
> Ah, you're a sly one Mr. Reich. I seem to recall we've been there
> before.
Maybe it's _our_ fault (and Mexico's fault because they do the same
thing in Spanish) for callling them "states" but the usual term is
state and not "government" because the latter term usually refers to a
particular group that happen to be in power at the time while "state"
refers to the nation.
Chucky & Janica
<bill....@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote:
>> > But you do admit that there is some potential for
>> > the state overstepping its bounds here
>>
>> The great things, when that happens, we can do something about it.
>
>When the government has such a power it often turns out that democracy
>is not enough protection, especially of the government is acting
>against a minority, ethnic or religious or political.
Well, I mainly meant here in Finland, but I didn't want to sound
elitist.
>The policy in
>France of not delivering mail if the address is in Breton could be
>extended to not allowing people to give their children names in Breton
>or Basque or Lang d'Oc some other minority language. The people of
>France might reject such tyranny but they might not.They might like it
>or, more likely, they might not bother to oppose it.
True enough. But if the government decided that "Hindle" was a silly
name (not saying it isn't...), I would most certainly object. And I'm
about as minority you can get, around these parts.
C&J
Laurence
> Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
> gloom forecast.
Ooom, doom, thoom, gloom. Boom!
Womb?
Laurence
> Any atheist who stood by his or her convictions solidly enough to be
> worthy of my respect would work through Christmas. This is why I
> respect so few of them. Man, am I not looking forward to braving the
> Christmas-shopping crowds. Then again, serves me right for not buying
> presents earlier.
I wouldn't mind that especially, however my office closes over
Christmas, so I couldn't even if I wanted to... Besides, there's still
the atheist festival of Familyandpresentsday to observe. To me,
Christmas is a time to see family and eat lots, I guess it's a bit of a
shame that it happens to fall on the same day. But that's a side effect
of all the bank holidays being based around said religion.
Laurence
>>> Enya is intensely disliked by men with very small penises.
>> If you add "and most other people" that would be correct.
> Sure, most other people with small penises.
Men with small penises, and other people with small penises, eh?
I think someone needs their internet access revoking. They've clearly
been looking at the wrong websites.
Chucky and the Fantabulous Webomophone
Yes ... see, none of this actually has much to do with my point. You
could work through Christmas if you really believed. Or, you know,
didn't believe.
Funny you should mention the "coincidental" celebrations that happen
on the same day. Atheists should make their own (un)holidays, and give
presents and stuff. It would be in keeping with their fundamentalist-
religious attitude to actually man up and concede that they're a
belief system and deserve their own celebrations rather than being
forced to scavenge off the carcass of the hegemony.
It's sad that there are all these government-approved holidays where
everything closes and they happen to be evil yuck-poo Christian
holidays. On the other hand, what are atheists going to do about it?
Even if they did protest and work through holidays, they'd come off
looking like douchebags.
C@w
--
Don't get me wrong, I'd respect them more ... but I respect a lot of
douchebags.
Chucky & Janica
wrote:
>> Is it the Grinch? No, it's just Will, doing his monthly doom and
>> gloom forecast.
>
>Ooom, doom, thoom, gloom. Boom!
>
>Womb?
I promised I wouldn't, but then I figured, what the heck? Anyway,
whom?
C&J