archie in Goonland
chorl...@hotmail.com
episode of the Goon show featuring Archie from the "educating archie'
radio show.... is this true?
Ob fact: the sykes is the area of a field where they turn the horses
to plough again.
David
Tony Wills
<chorl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I read on a website dedicated to Eric Sykes, that there was a crossover
>episode of the Goon show featuring Archie from the "educating archie'
>radio show.... is this true?
>
From that worthy tombe "THE GOON SHOW COMPANION", A History and
Goonography, Written and compiled by ROGER WILMUT (a book well worth
buying :-) :
"Before the next series started, the Goons made two digressions from
their normal style of programme. The first was a 'merger' with another
successful comedy show, 'Educating Archie', which starred the
ventriloquist Peter Brough and his schoolboy dummy Archie Andrews.
'Educating Archie' was not a particularly good programme, but it is of
interest today because of the number of famous comedians who played
opposite Archie at the start of their careers-Max Bygraves, Harry
Secombe and Tony Hancock, among others. The series was being written
in 1954 by Eric Sykes, whom Milligan knew but with whom he had never
collaborated. The two decided to write a programme combining the two
shows. 'Archie in Goonland', produced by Roy Speer, was pre-recorded
on May 6, 1954 and broadcast on June 11. According to Radio Times,
'Peter Brough and Archie Andrews enter Goonland via a mousehole and
are immediately involved in a fantastic adventure involving the
destruction of London-and mice!' Unfortunately no recording has
survived of this show, and the BBC's script has gone absent without
leave, but judging by a listener's letter in Radio Times, the two sets
of characters failed to mix. The idea of combining the Goons with
another comedy programme was not tried again. The most interesting
result was that Eric Sykes joined Milligan in writing most of the next
series of Goon Shows."
nemo
"Tony Wills" <ne...@list.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> On 1 Nov 2005 13:26:18 -0800, "chorl...@hotmail.com"
> <chorl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I read on a website dedicated to Eric Sykes, that there was a crossover
> >episode of the Goon show featuring Archie from the "educating archie'
> >radio show.... is this true?
> >
>
> From that worthy tombe "THE GOON SHOW COMPANION", A History and
> Goonography, Written and compiled by ROGER WILMUT (a book well worth
> buying :-) :
>
> "Before the next series started, the Goons made two digressions from
> their normal style of programme. The first was a 'merger' with another
> successful comedy show, 'Educating Archie', which starred the
> ventriloquist Peter Brough and his schoolboy dummy Archie Andrews.
> 'Educating Archie' was not a particularly good programme, but it is of
> interest today because of the number of famous comedians who played
> opposite Archie at the start of their careers-Max Bygraves, Harry
> Secombe and Tony Hancock, among others.
Julie Andrews also started off there, and I think Bernard Breslaw was in
some of the later ones with his, "Ere. Eez a nut case" and "I only arsed!"
And it featured the first ever Vocoder - someone talking through a
mouth-organ. Same principle. That used to frighten me a bit when I was
littule!
We were still listening on an old valve/tube genuine imitation ebony and oak
Ferguson wireless in those days that crackled.
The series was being written
> in 1954 by Eric Sykes, whom Milligan knew but with whom he had never
> collaborated. The two decided to write a programme combining the two
> shows. 'Archie in Goonland', produced by Roy Speer, was pre-recorded
> on May 6, 1954 and broadcast on June 11. According to Radio Times,
> 'Peter Brough and Archie Andrews enter Goonland via a mousehole and
> are immediately involved in a fantastic adventure involving the
> destruction of London-and mice!' Unfortunately no recording has
> survived of this show, and the BBC's script has gone absent without
> leave, but judging by a listener's letter in Radio Times, the two sets
> of characters failed to mix. The idea of combining the Goons with
> another comedy programme was not tried again. The most interesting
> result was that Eric Sykes joined Milligan in writing most of the next
> series of Goon Shows."
>
>
Never mind all dat! My dad used to help make Archie Andrewziz little suits!
So there!
MartinS
> "Tony Wills" <ne...@list.afraid.org> wrote...
>> "chorl...@hotmail.com" <chorl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I read on a website dedicated to Eric Sykes, that there was a
>> >crossover episode of the Goon show featuring Archie from the
>> >"educating archie' radio show.... is this true?
>>
>> From that worthy tombe "THE GOON SHOW COMPANION", A History and
>> Goonography, Written and compiled by ROGER WILMUT (a book well worth
>> buying :-) :
>>
>> "Before the next series started, the Goons made two digressions from
>> their normal style of programme. The first was a 'merger' with
>> another successful comedy show, 'Educating Archie', which starred the
>> ventriloquist Peter Brough and his schoolboy dummy Archie Andrews.
>> 'Educating Archie' was not a particularly good programme, but it is
>> of interest today because of the number of famous comedians who
>> played opposite Archie at the start of their careers-Max Bygraves,
>> Harry Secombe and Tony Hancock, among others.
>
> Julie Andrews also started off there, and I think Bernard Breslaw was
> in some of the later ones with his, "Ere. Eez a nut case" and "I only
> arsed!" And it featured the first ever Vocoder - someone talking
> through a mouth-organ. Same principle. That used to frighten me a bit
> when I was littule!
That was Ronald Chesney, who was Britain's top harmonica player before
Max Geldray arrived. He teamed up with Ronald Wolfe, and they co-wrote
scripts for Educating Archie, The Rag Trade and On The Buses.
http://www.geocities.com/artdaane/roch.htm
Also from http://www.patmissin.com/ffaq/q27.html
British player Ronald Chesney featured what he called his "talking
harmonica" on the BBC Radio show "Educating Archie". Strictly
speaking, this wasn't an electric harmonica as such, but a normal
harmonica that was electrically amplified with the output sent via a
tube to someone's mouth. As Chesney played the harmonica, the other
person shaped the tone with his mouth in front of a microphone, making
it sound like the harmonica was talking.
> We were still listening on an old valve/tube genuine imitation ebony
> and oak Ferguson wireless in those days that crackled.
Ours was so old it was a Marconi!
--
Martin S.
nemo
"MartinS" <m...@my.place> wrote in message
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I'll see your Marconi and raise you a Fellowes Magneto Company two
bright-emitter valve straight set and audio amplifier!
I had it going once - with some later LT44 triodes instead of the bright
emitter ones - and it received *everything* on MW and LW all at once!
I think it's the oldest thing I've got.
Roger the Saurus
"nemo" <ne...@newtylust.nit> wrote in message
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We all know what the oldest thing you got is (Braced for a thwap)
--
Roger the Saurus
(remove bollix to reply)
MartinS
> "MartinS" <m...@my.place> wrote...
>> "nemo" <ne...@newtylust.nit> wrote:
>>
>> > We were still listening on an old valve/tube genuine imitation
>> > ebony and oak Ferguson wireless in those days that crackled.
>>
>> Ours was so old it was a Marconi!
>>
> You were lucky!!
>
> I'll see your Marconi and raise you a Fellowes Magneto Company two
> bright-emitter valve straight set and audio amplifier!
>
> I had it going once - with some later LT44 triodes instead of the
> bright emitter ones - and it received *everything* on MW and LW all at
> once!
>
> I think it's the oldest thing I've got.
I used to listen to the wireless late at night on a crystal set with my
bedframe as the aerial.
--
Martin S.
Magnet
According to Google, the only other place LT44 triodes occur on the
whole of the Internet is in another post my Nemo to a jokes newsgroup.
--
Magnet.
TO DO: Add suitable signature here.
nemo
"MartinS" <m...@my.place> wrote in message
mum's brothers knocked up a DIY crystal set with the tuning coil wound
around a milk bottle and the crystal in the bottom of a cup on some foil and
a darning needle suspended onto it from a stick across the cup. Pretty
similar to the sort of thing POWs used to make. Loco driver's pension:
Enginuity!
Our old Ferguson was pretty good though. It had Short Wave and I used to
listen to that quite often. I used to think the TOR signals, LORAN B,
high-speed Morse, DWS and teleprinters etc. were all signals from outer
space until I found out otherwise. That's how I got hooked on oriental music
too - listening to stations like R. Tunisia which was quite strong. The
weird tuning really fascinated me.
I've got a modern - well, 70s - Drake SW set stashed away somewhere that
I've not used for years. I wonder what's on there now - and what sort of
messages the poor old US troops in Iraq are sending home to their families
on the 14MHz amateur band.
MartinS
>> I used to listen to the wireless late at night on a crystal set with my
>> bedframe as the aerial.
>>
> Sounds right. You must have been fairly near the transmitter though.
Moorside Edge, about 20 miles.
--
Martin S.