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Fred Fannakapan

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Nov 26, 2002, 5:55:02 AM11/26/02
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Now folks - several Goon scripts were based on movies, for example:

- Ill Met By Goonlight - based on Ill Met By Moonlight (1957)
- I Was Monty's Treble - based on I Was Monty's Double (1958)
- Drums Along The Mersey - based on Drums along the Mohawk (1939)

Others seem to be based on famous books (some of which had already
been made into movies anyway, such as King Solomon's Mines, or legends
and stories such as Robin Hood. And others were based on items in the
news - the Sinking of Westminster Pier springs to mind.

Some of the scripts don't seem to me to be based on anything other
than Milligan's fertile imagination, and seem to be difficult to
relate directly to any real or previously invented story, book, film,
etc.

Has anyone compiled a complete list of what each show is based on? It
would make interesting reading. I find that my enjoyment of some of
the shows is enhanced if I am familiar with the original story or book
they're based on (where this applies), because some of the jokes
become funnier when you know what they're taking the p*ss out of, so I
reckon there must be a few more I've yet to discover the origins (or
lemons, mate) of.

Any thoughts, folks?

And with that, folks...
FX: gunshot
Seagoon: Well done!
Bloodnok: I hated to see him suffer

Garry Law

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Nov 26, 2002, 9:13:29 AM11/26/02
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a contribution:

10,000 Fathoms Down in a Wardrobe - 2,000 Fathoms Down In The Bathyscaphe,
Houot, Georges & Willm, Pierre. 1955
The Great Regents Park Swim - perhaps 50's newspaper fixation on English
Channel swims
Histories of Pliny the Elder, - The Roman, Pliny the Elder's most famous
book was Natural Histories.
Tay Bridge Disaster - William McGonagall poem - The Tay Bridge Disaster
and the real event 1879
Through the Sound Barrier in an Airing Cupboard - Sound Barrier, Neville
Duke 1955
Under Two Floorboards - A Story of the Legion - Under two flags, De La
Ramee, Louise ("Ouida").
What's My Line - TV show of the 50's
Wings Over Dagenham - very popular title form for aviation books - many
"Wings Over ****** " publications.
Round the World in 80 Days - Jules Verne novel and 50's film of.
Bridge On The River Wye - Bridge on the River Kwai - 50's film.
Pams Paper Insurance Policy - ? Pickwick Papers - Dickens
Ten Snowballs That Shook The World - Ten Days That Shook The World, John
Reed, 1922
Six Charlies in Search of an Author - Six Characters In Search Of An
Author play by Luigi Pirandello
Greatest Mountain in the World, The Mountain Eaters, Saga of the Internal
Mountain - reference to the ascent of Everest 1953.
Quatermass O.B.E. - 50's TV SF Quatermass series - of various titles.
Forog - London Smog problem 1950's
Six Ingots Of Leadenhall Street - reference to the Siege of Sydney St -
event in London 1911
The various ones with a western USA theme - see Milligan's reports on his
father's obsession with "The West"

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Dave Van Domelen

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Let's not forget Lost Horizontally, based on Lost Horizons.

Dave Van Domelen, "No drink, no sex, no sin...I can't stand this place."
- Bottle


Bill Jarvis

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One of my favourites, mate - "The Scarlet Capsule", a spoof of
Quatermass III. It is hilarious to watch Q3 after hearing the Scarlet
Capsule.

Wm McMate

Robert Hosking

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There were some shows which came VERY close to the sort of direct political
satire that was taboo at the time and which only really started with 'Beyond
the Fringe' in 1960.

"the Nasty AFfair at the Burami Oasis" is probably the best example - the
plot concerns a bunch of Arabs threatening a British oasis filled with gin.
If you check the date of the show it was recroded at the start of the Suez
Crisis, when the Egyptions seized the Suez Canal. By my admittedly very
rough calculations, had the Goons tried to do that show a week or two later
they would have been stopped, as by then the troops were landing in Egypt.

some 9th Series shows reflected Milligan's involvement on the fringes of the
anti-nuclear movement - Britain was at the time adopting an independent
nuclear deterrent and scaling down its conventional forces. "the Sahara
Desert Statue" satirises this, and more generlaly, Britain's expensive
attempt to prove it was still a major world power, with the test on the
impact of an atom bomb on the statue of a Welshman holding a rice pudding
(told that the explosion turns him into a touring company of the Desert
Song, a MP proclaims "Then Britain Leads the World!!" and there is a chorus
of Land of Hope and Glory).

"Neds Atomic Dustbin" is another show with a similar theme.

Broadening this subject a ltitle, there is a running theme across the shows
of the British Empire as it was - look at how many shows were set in
outposts of Empire - and what it had become by the 1950s. If there was an
overall theme of the Goon shows, it was the decline of the British Empire,
and the Goons satirised attempts to pretend the Empire was still going.


--
Rob

"I'm in Grey Lynn, how are you?
Its a Sunday afternoon...."
- Able Tasmans -

Tony

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Nov 26, 2002, 1:57:16 PM11/26/02
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Robert Hosking wrote:
...
> some 9th Series shows reflected Milligan's involvement on the fringes of the
> anti-nuclear movement
...

I thought Milligan was a founding member of Campaign for Nuclear
Disarmament (or one of those similar groups), sounds more like right (or
politically left) in the middle of the anti-nuclear movement ... (maybe
not high profile).

Roger the Saurus

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"The fear of wages" is based on a play called "The wages of fear".
"Tiddlywinks" is based on a real life incident when the Duke of Edinburgh
asked the Goons to be his champions in a match against Oxford and Cambridge
(I think). "The Curse of Frankenstein" sounds like a film title. "Operation
Christmas Duff" sounds like a war film. "The white Neddie trade" soundsd
like "The white slave trade"

I like this game

Roger the Saurus


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Paul Winalski

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:55:02 +0000, Fred Fannakapan
<i.hat...@all.spammers.are.scum> wrote:

>Has anyone compiled a complete list of what each show is based on? It
>would make interesting reading.

I haven't got it compiled as a list, but I've been noting that
information at the front of each transcript in The Annotated
Goon Show.

The sketches in the early, multi-sketch-format shows were almost
all topical references of one sort of another. Looking through
the titles of the later series, the references that come to mind
are:

3/6 "The Archers" - long-running BBC radio soap opera (still going)
about rural north country folk
3/7 "Robin Hood" - legendary Nottingham do-gooder
3/20 "The Man Who Never Was" - the Allies really did dress up a corpse
in military uniform with fake identity papers, and fake
invasion plans, and have it wash up on the coast of Spain,
in order to fool the Nazis.
3/21 "The Building of the Suez Canal" - self-explanatory
3/24 "The De Goonlies" - a parody of various documentary programmes
about famous aristocratic families and their roles in
history
3/24 "The Ascent of Mount Everest" - The expedition that was to make
the successful first ascent was in progress at the time.
3/25 "The Story of the Plymouth Hoe Armada" - A re-telling of the
story of Sir Francis Drake's famous game of bowls on
Plymouth Hoe prior to his defeating the Spanish Armada.
4/7 "The First Albert Memorial to the Moon" - Experiments with using
ballistic missiles to carry payloads out of the earth's
atmosphere were in progress at the time. The Albert
Memorial does somewhat resemble a missile in its launching
gantry.
4/11 "The Spanish Armada" see 3/25.
4/16 "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Crun" - parody of "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde"
4/23 "The Greatest Mountain in the World" - another Everest story
4/25 "The Silent Bugler" - parody of your stock Cold War spy story
4/SP "Archie in Goonland" - parody of "Alice in Wonderland"
4/SP "The Starlings" - inspired by various odd means really being used
to try to disperse unwanted flocks of birds
5/8 "The Mystery of the Marie Celeste" - As described in the show, the
Marie Celeste was found drifting, crewless, with no sign as
to why the crew had left or where they'd gone to.
5/9 "The Last Tram" - Around this time the last of London's tram
lines went out of service and was replaced by bus service.
5/14 "Ye Bandit of Sherwood Forest" - Robin Hood again
5/15 "1985" - BBC TV had just broadcast a very popular production of
George Orwell's "1984". This is a close parody of that
production.
5/18 "Under Two Floorboards--A Tale of the Legion" - parody of "Beau
Geste"
5/20 "1985" - See 5/15.
5/21 "The Sinking of Westminster Pier" - Inspired by Spike seeing a
newspaper photo of the sunken pier with an "out of order"
sign posted on it.
6/1 "The Man Who Won the War" - inspired by the blizzard of war
memoirs being published at the time
6/8 "Shangri-La Again" - parody of "Lost Horizon"
6/11 "The Sale of Manhattan" - based on the story that Dutch explorers
bought Manhattan Island from the natives for a handful of
cheap trinkets
6/14 "The Greenslade Story" - a parody of the typical "rise and fall
of a great starlet/star" Hollywood movie plot
6/25 "The Fear of Wages" - parody of "The Wages of Fear"
6/27 "The Man Who Never Was" - see 3/20
7/1 "The Nasty Affair at the Burami Oasis" - the Suez crisis was on
at the time
7/5 "The Spectre of Tintagel" - parody of Arthurian legend
7/SP "Robin Hood"
7/10 "What's My Line?" - parody of the TV game show where a panel
tries to guess the contestant's occupation
7/11 "The Telephone" - commentary on the GPO's notoriously bad service
7/12 "The Flea" - parody of Samuel Pepys's famous diary
7/13 "Six Charlies in Search of an Author" - parody of "Six Characters


in Search of an Author"

7/15 "Wings over Dagenham" - parody of all those "Wings over XXXX"
books about aviation exploits
7/20 "Round the World in 80 Days" - parody of the Jules Verne novel
7/22 "Africa Ship Canal" - another Suez-inspired show
7/23 "Ill-Met by Goonlight" - parody of "Ill-Met by Moonlight"
7/25 "The Histories of Pliny the Elder" - title from Pliny's
"Histories".
7/SP "The Reason Why" - story of the transport of Cleopatra's Needle
from Egypt to London
8/4 "The Great Regent's Park Swim" - inspired by attempts to swim the
English Channel
8/6 "The Space Age" - Sputnik and the start of the space race were
current news
8/7 "The Red Fort" - a story of the Indian uprising against British
colonial rule
8/10 "King Solomon's Mines" - parody of the Rider-Haggerd story
8/12 "The Great British Revolution" - Spike was against the Rent Act
of 1957, so he has Grytpype use it to evict Parliament from
Westminster.
8/13 "The Plasticine Man" - parody of the archaeological digs at
Stonehenge
8/14 "African Incident" - parody of "Brige over the River Kwai"
8/20 "Ten Snowballs that Shook the World" - title from "Ten Days
that Shook the World", a recounting of the Russian
Revolution
8/21 "The Man Who Never Was" - see 3/20
8/24 "Tiddlywinks" - based on the real match between the Cambridge
University Tiddlywinks team and the Goons as Royal
Champions representing Prince Philip
8/25 "The Evils of Bushey Spon" - based on a real-life row between
A.E. Matthews and the Bushey Heath council over the
erection of a concrete lamp-post near his property
9/1 "The Sahara Desert Statue" - commentary by Spike concerning
nuclear testing
9/2 "I Was Monty's Treble" - parody of "I Was Monty's Double"
9/9 "The Battle of Spion Kop" - story of the Boer War
9/10 "Ned's Atomic Dustbin" - more Spike anti-nuclear commentary
9/11 "Who is Pink Oboe?" - parody of your stock spy story
9/12 "The Call of the West" - parody of your generic Western
9/14 "The Scarlet Capsule" - parody of the Quatermass TV thriller
9/15 "The Tay Bridge" - based on McGonigall's appalling poem
"The Tay Bridge Disaster"
10/1 "A Christmas Carol" - parody of the Dickens novel
10/2 "Tales of Men's Shirts" - pokes fun at all the memoir-writing
by ex-military bigwigs

-Paul W.

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Roger the Saurus

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"Paul Winalski" <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote

> 8/13 "The Plasticine Man" - parody of the archaeological digs at
> Stonehenge

I think you'll find it's a parody of Piltdown Man - archaeological finds of
prehistoric man later found to be fake. It was finally exposed in 1953 so
recent enough for Spike to find it amusing. Here is a URL for the story
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/piltdown.html

Roger the Saurus


Arcaton

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Dave Van Domelen <dva...@eyrie.org> wrote in message
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Also "The Scarlet Capsule" from Quatermass & the Pit (BBCTv 1959 as well as
the colour Hammer movie!)
"The Fear of Wages" from "The Wages of Fear" transporting NitroGlycerine
unadulterated by Sake....
Arcaton


Matthew Bladen

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[snip]

> Broadening this subject a ltitle, there is a running theme across the
shows
> of the British Empire as it was - look at how many shows were set in
> outposts of Empire - and what it had become by the 1950s. If there was an
> overall theme of the Goon shows, it was the decline of the British Empire,
> and the Goons satirised attempts to pretend the Empire was still going.

I was browsing through _The Essential Spike Milligan_ after falling over a
pile
of it in Waterstone's, and found a transcript of the very first Goon Show
(episode one of 'Crazy People'). The end of the final sketch gives as neat
a
summary of the Goon Show as I've ever seen. I lacked the necessary
wherewithal to purchase said tome and can only quote from memory, but it
was something about showing the world that Britain is still a force to be
reckoned with, that its days of glory will return, and that the whole world
can
hear it proudly crying...

HARRY: HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLPP!!!!!!!!!!

--
Matthew
FX: Krakatoa in a small glass


David Bromage

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Paul Winalski wrote:
> 9/2 "I Was Monty's Treble" - parody of "I Was Monty's Double"

And given that Spike and Harry both served in Monty's biggest campaign,
they couldn't resist the chance for a spoof.

> 9/11 "Who is Pink Oboe?" - parody of your stock spy story

Another one slipped through the censors. The title is a reference to the
stereotypical "orientation" and recruitment methods of the Cambridge
spies.

Cheers
David

Robert Hosking

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'Forog' Fifth series. there were very real major problems with London's smog
in the early 1950s.


in article jsj7uuc2k63c6305u...@4ax.com, Paul Winalski at

Garry Law

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Just re-listened to it. Stonehenge definitely gets a couple of mentions and
there is no obvious reference to the Piltdown forgery.
Obviously the title link is to Pleistocene Man. The big fossil man discovery
of the 50's was Leakey's then-called Zinjanthropus boisei in 1959 - too
late for this programme (1957) - a more likely inspiration might have been
the discovery of the third fragment of the Swanscombe skull - in 1955.


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comte de jeeeem (kidney wiper) moriarty

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David Bromage wrote:

> Paul Winalski wrote:
>>9/11 "Who is Pink Oboe?" - parody of your stock spy story
> Another one slipped through the censors. The title is a reference to the
> stereotypical "orientation" and recruitment methods of the Cambridge
> spies.

further slippage in the censorship department was the long list of spys recited,
the white bint and the chocolate speedway being two of the nastier ones that the
innocent idiots in the censorship department missed...

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Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote:

> 4/SP "The Starlings" - inspired by various odd means really being used
> to try to disperse unwanted flocks of birds

I've not heard that one, but might it have been based on "The Birds"?
Hitchcock's film didn't come until 1963 but the original story, written
by Daphne du Maurier, was published in 1952 AFAICMO.

J.T. Fallhammer

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MartinS

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Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote on 26 Nov 2002:

> 5/9 "The Last Tram" - Around this time the last of London's tram
> lines went out of service and was replaced by bus service.

This episode was broadcast 23 November 1954; The last day of London's
trams was 5 July 1952. Many of the tram routes north of the Thames were
replaced by trolleybuses. Just to clarify, of course. Several hundred of
London's Feltham trams were sold to Leeds and most ran until 1959.

--
Martin S.

David Bromage

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John Fallhammer wrote:
> Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote:
>
> > 4/SP "The Starlings" - inspired by various odd means really being used
> > to try to disperse unwanted flocks of birds
>
> I've not heard that one, but might it have been based on "The Birds"?
> Hitchcock's film didn't come until 1963 but the original story, written
> by Daphne du Maurier, was published in 1952 AFAICMO.

It's specifically a send up of a real problem at the time. Trafalgar
Square was infested by starlings and some really bizarre methods to
eradicate them were tried. The high frequency sound beams, football
rattles and Chinese crackers were actually tried. Rice puddings fired
from catapaults definately weren't. :)

If you have one of the gnutella clones (e.g. Limewire), it's available
as an MP3.

Cheers
David

Bill Jarvis

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35 years after first hearing these quotations, I began to realise (1)
that "Monty's Treble" had at least 2 meanings (a Treble being a
choirboy) and referred to alleged "orientations"; (2) that to "play
the Pink Oboe" was rude (and not entirely unconnected).

Wm McMate,
North of Yorkshire

Fred Fannakapan

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:33:17 +1300, Robert Hosking
<rhos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>Broadening this subject a ltitle, there is a running theme across the shows
>of the British Empire as it was - look at how many shows were set in
>outposts of Empire - and what it had become by the 1950s. If there was an
>overall theme of the Goon shows, it was the decline of the British Empire,
>and the Goons satirised attempts to pretend the Empire was still going.

Not only de Empire, but der Odeon too mate. Er, no, wot I meant was -
not only de Empire, but the Goons were constantly satirising the
government or anyone else in authority, and things like the British
economy. It's a shame they're not 'ere today, as the present lot
thoroughly deserve to be sent up (preferably in a rocket to ahter
space, mate).

Strange lad

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Eheu! I knowed about playing the pink oboe, having watched a lot of chaps
take turns in the Burrell, but what is a White Bint? Enquiring minds need
to know.

Mad DaN


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Reece

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Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote in
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<BIG snip>

> 4/7 "The First Albert Memorial to the Moon" - Experiments with using
> ballistic missiles to carry payloads out of the earth's
> atmosphere were in progress at the time. The Albert
> Memorial does somewhat resemble a missile in its launching
> gantry.

When I saw it for the first time last year, I immediately agreed with Mr
Crun (or was it Mr Seagoon) who exclaimed 'I can think of nothing better to
send to the moon"


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On 27 Nov 2002 12:08:33 +1100, Reece
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>Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote in
>news:jsj7uuc2k63c6305u...@4ax.com:
>
><BIG snip>
>
>> 4/7 "The First Albert Memorial to the Moon" - Experiments with using
>> ballistic missiles to carry payloads out of the earth's
>> atmosphere were in progress at the time. The Albert
>> Memorial does somewhat resemble a missile in its launching
>> gantry.
>
>When I saw it for the first time last year, I immediately agreed with Mr
>Crun (or was it Mr Seagoon) who exclaimed 'I can think of nothing better to
>send to the moon"

I can, mate - the bloomin' 'Ahses O' Parliment, complete wiv it's
bloomin' occupants. That would be a great step for mankind, mate.

r.shemilt

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The Kingsway tram subway (around which the plot is hung, drawn and
quartered) is still extent, and the entrance is visible clearly in the
middle of Kingsway at the Northern end, whilst it resides behind a steel
door underneath Waterloo bridge at the southern end. Last I saw (Yesterday)
the tram tracks, inset in cobbles, were still present on the drop into the
dark tunnel, but there were no new houses built on the site...

For more info go stick this up your browser :
http://transporthistory.tripod.com/bus4/subway.html

Robert M Shemilt

PS: Also went to the Bar Bee Cee Yesterday - Broadcasting House is being
rebuilt. No red capsules down the 'oles though.


Paul Winalski

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:04:19 -0000, "Roger the Saurus"
<ro...@3stevenson.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>"Tiddlywinks" is based on a real life incident when the Duke of Edinburgh
>asked the Goons to be his champions in a match against Oxford and Cambridge
>(I think).

Cambridge only. A group of unathletic Cambridge students wanted to
brag that they had played for the school, so they drew up a set of
competition rules for Tiddlywinks and started the Cambridge University
Tiddlywinks Club (CUTwC). They challenged the Goons and Lady Docker
to exhibition matches but were turned down. Then a local newspaper
published an article satirising the tabloid reports of royal scandals.
The article was titled, "Does Prince Philip Cheat at Tiddlywinks?"
The CUTwC sent the article to the Duke of Edinburgh, offering him the
opportunity to prove his honour by challenging him to a Tiddlywinks
match, and suggesting that he appoint the Goons as Royal Champions.
The CUTwC thus got the Goons to play them in a match in aid of one
of the Duke's charities. The Goons' side consisted of Harry, Peter,
Spike, Wal Greenslade, Max Geldray, Graham Stark, Alan Simpson, and
Ray Galton. John Snagge was the umpire.

> "The Curse of Frankenstein" sounds like a film title.

And only applies to the opening joke. The rest of the show is
a story called "My Heart's in the Highlands".

Paul Winalski

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 22:43:54 +0000 (UTC), "Matthew Bladen"
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>I was browsing through _The Essential Spike Milligan_ after falling over a
>pile
>of it in Waterstone's, and found a transcript of the very first Goon Show
>(episode one of 'Crazy People'). The end of the final sketch gives as neat
>a
>summary of the Goon Show as I've ever seen. I lacked the necessary
>wherewithal to purchase said tome and can only quote from memory, but it
>was something about showing the world that Britain is still a force to be
>reckoned with, that its days of glory will return, and that the whole world
>can
>hear it proudly crying...
>
>HARRY: HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLPP!!!!!!!!!!

Here it is:

ORCHESTRA: "Land of Hope and Glory" softly held under
Bentine: And so Britain has struggled valiantly on through the
post-war years, fighting for a better standard of life for the
pursuit of happiness for freedom… Fighting for her very existence!
Until today the Mother-land can still raise her proud face to the
skies and say...
Secombe: Heellllpppppp!

Paul Winalski

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 06:56:58 +0000, Bill Jarvis
<g...@8apx.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>35 years after first hearing these quotations, I began to realise (1)
>that "Monty's Treble" had at least 2 meanings (a Treble being a
>choirboy) and referred to alleged "orientations"; (2) that to "play
>the Pink Oboe" was rude (and not entirely unconnected).

If you'd had your pink oboe entirely unconnected, you'd know
how painful that can be!

Paul Winalski

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:49:13 -0000, "Strange lad"
<boom...@bangspam.net> wrote:

>Eheu! I knowed about playing the pink oboe, having watched a lot of chaps
>take turns in the Burrell, but what is a White Bint? Enquiring minds need
>to know.

'Bint' is an Arabic word meaning 'daughter'. In British servicemen's
slang it's a derogatory term for a woman or girl. Kind of in the same
category as 'crumpet' or 'tart'.

Paul Winalski

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Nov 27, 2002, 2:11:11 PM11/27/02
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:54:14 +0900, John Fallhammer
<jmont...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:

>Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote:
>
>> 4/SP "The Starlings" - inspired by various odd means really being used
>> to try to disperse unwanted flocks of birds
>
>I've not heard that one, but might it have been based on "The Birds"?
>Hitchcock's film didn't come until 1963 but the original story, written
>by Daphne du Maurier, was published in 1952 AFAICMO.

No, it's definitely inspired by the real-life bizarre attempts
to scare birds away from Trafalgar Square and other places.
Spike says so himself in his intro to the show.

Roger the Saurus

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Nov 27, 2002, 2:53:05 PM11/27/02
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"John Fallhammer" <jmont...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Paul Winalski <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote:
>
> > 4/SP "The Starlings" - inspired by various odd means really being used
> > to try to disperse unwanted flocks of birds
>
> I've not heard that one, but might it have been based on "The Birds"?
> Hitchcock's film didn't come until 1963 but the original story, written
> by Daphne du Maurier, was published in 1952 AFAICMO.

It's on the double cassette "Spike Milligan at the Beeb" along with lots of
other goodies

Roger the Saurus


nemo

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Nov 27, 2002, 5:40:28 PM11/27/02
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PAPER!!


Strange lad

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Nov 28, 2002, 5:26:25 AM11/28/02
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"Paul Winalski" <pr...@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:49:13 -0000, "Strange lad"
> <boom...@bangspam.net> wrote:
>
> >Eheu! I knowed about playing the pink oboe, having watched a lot of
chaps
> >take turns in the Burrell, but what is a White Bint? Enquiring minds
need
> >to know.
>
> 'Bint' is an Arabic word meaning 'daughter'. In British servicemen's
> slang it's a derogatory term for a woman or girl. Kind of in the same
> category as 'crumpet' or 'tart'.
>
Fanx, Paul, I knew about the bint bit, what I didden unnerstann was the
reason for white bint being 'rude' when pink oboe and chocolate speedway so
obviously are. I expectorated (Koff) it to be a code for the two or three
pounds of fat made beautiful by the addition of a nipple. Or Summink.
Weren't they allowed to say things likes crumpet or tart? Both of which I
can't eat any more due to Nemo's condition. Although I still like a lick of
a bint.

Mad DAN

Dr Ivan D. Reid

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Nov 28, 2002, 7:14:45 AM11/28/02
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:40:28 GMT, nemo <ne...@nuaghtyloss.wet>
wrote in <wRbF9.6134$Mf4....@news-lhr.blueyonder.co.uk>:
> PAPER!!

You should have checked when you first entered the cubicle!

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Eng., Brunel Uni. Ivan...@brunel.ac.uk
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Torak

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Nov 26, 2002, 1:11:07 PM11/26/02
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> Dave Van Domelen, "No drink, no sex, no sin...I can't stand this
place."

Sounds ideal for me.

Or at least a decent approximation of my life so far. I can do without the
booze, though.


Torak

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Nov 26, 2002, 5:40:14 PM11/26/02
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> 8/24 "Tiddlywinks" - based on the real match between the Cambridge
> University Tiddlywinks team and the Goons as Royal
> Champions representing Prince Philip

I'm told by a mate at Cam now that the Tiddlywinks Soc is still thriving.


Torak

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Nov 29, 2002, 7:07:43 PM11/29/02
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> >>9/11 "Who is Pink Oboe?" - parody of your stock spy story
> > Another one slipped through the censors. The title is a reference to the
> > stereotypical "orientation" and recruitment methods of the Cambridge
> > spies.
>
> further slippage in the censorship department was the long list of spys
recited,
> the white bint and the chocolate speedway being two of the nastier ones
that the
> innocent idiots in the censorship department missed...

I don't get it. Either of them.


Paul Winalski

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Nov 30, 2002, 12:27:16 AM11/30/02
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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 00:07:43 -0000, "Torak" <a.w.m...@durham.ac.uk>
wrote:

Bint: British army slang for a girl or woman. Aka crumpet, tart,
broad....

Chocolate speedway: the intestines (especially under the
influence of licorice).

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