Posted by: Mary | Oct 26, 2005 5:23:22 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people are still brainwashed by the
garbage Gene Scott spewed on the radio, TV, the web, and on the pulpit.
I know, firsthand, that he was a crook, a liar, and a cheat. You all
praise his "teaching" as if he somehow enlightened you and turned you on
to God. He agreed to pay me for musical services to his organization in
1985, and when I spoke up about his nonchalent, apathetic attitude
regarding my not having been paid for six weeks of work, he tried to have
me murdered.
He embezzeled MILLIONS of dollars from the Faith Center Church
congregation, (remember? his salary was "$1/yr. plus expenses"), and he
even swindled the land where he is buried! He tried to claim the Church of
the Open Door in Los Angeles through a bogus lawsuit by Lehua Mae Garcia,
the mother-in-law of one of my assailants, Larry James Dudley. She claimed
she didn't know Scott in court documents, but I gave a video tape to the
COD people to show her answering phones on Scott's live studio broadcasts.
Scott pissed away $6.5 million on a crap shoot that he could pass her off
as an original member of COD who was contesting the sale to Scott, thus
nullifying his $23 million commitment to purchase the church. It
backfired, and he lost the money.
Did you ever wonder who was behind the torching of the Los Angeles Public
Library records wing? Scott showed live pictures of firemen in distress
from the rooftop of the church, and tried to use the library as an urgency
to collect more money from his followers so he could "move in so this kinda
thing won't happen to us!" Remember his library telethon? He had a
camerman, named Ron, whose likeness fit the composite drawing of the
arsonist.
The real estate he purchased...2 Oaknoll, S. Pasadena (Secret #1)...580
Madeleine Dr., Pasadena...Silver Oaks Ranch, Bradbury...his parents' home
at Lake Elsinore...Dolores Press in San Fransisco..The Sunset Masoleum, El
Cerrito, CA, and the little-known High Point Farm, near Campbellsville, KY
were all examples of his financial scams, to name a few.
When he raised money on live TV and radio to purchase "Jimmy Carter's
DC-3," he told the audience that he only had a week to raise the money, or
he would lose the opportunity to purchase it. What he failed to tell his
audience was that he had purchased the plane in Oklahoma, three months
prior to the fundraising campaign!
Scott would announce to his audience that "there's a service at the
Wescott Christian Center in Oroville, CA every Sunday, where they receive
his broadcast via satellite. I went up there one weekend and found the
lawn to be in excess of three-feet-high, with the doors chained and
padlocked. The neighbors said there hadn't been a church service there in
over 8 years. I went to the Oroville home of "Pastor Chinn," who Scott
claimed was preaching at the Sunday services, and he laughed when I told
him what Scott had announced. Dr. Chinn told me, "The only thing I do for
Dr. Scott is go to Sao Paolo, Brazil to pick up the money at our
orphanage!"
Until now, none of you are aware that Scott tried to get a broadcast
license on Catalina Island in 1987, through his then-wife, Christine Shaw.
She claimed she "only worked for Scott, and that she didn't drive a car."
She forgot about the burgundy Porsche 947 she drove off of Merlin Olsen's
lot in Sherman Oaks, CA. The FCC found out that she had perjured herself
and that she was also married to Scott, so, guess what: Scott didn't get
his new station!
I remind all of you bible-thumpers that none of this crap has anything to
do with Jesus, unless you want to speak of false doctrine. Jesus was a
frontman for Gene Scott. That's all. Scott was a fraud, and nothing will
ever change that fact. He used your weaknesses and your kind, forgiving
hearts and your bank accounts to amass a personal fortune. Whenever the
government would step in to investigate, he hid behind the Bible, his
women, and his bodyguards.
Check out the Glendale, Ca Police Department records regarding all of the
beatings and shootings that took place at the Glendale Ave. church and the
TV studios on Broadway. Of course, if you're reading this and you still
follow Scott, God help you. You need a spiritual lobotomy!
Now that he's gone, this is your big chance to escape! I don't yet know
that much about his widow, Melissa (aka Barbi Bridges), but as far as I
can tell, she's picking up where he left off. The mountebank has
left---enter the hooker. A call to his 800 lines reveals that the same
moronic paranoia subsists..."I only take messages for Dr. Scott." My
Amazon parrot has a larger vocabulary!
-DP
1. Ron as an arsonist?
Some of you old timers here know Ron and it is laughable that he would
have done something like this. As for the fire, did that not happen
before we got involved in the COD thing? I was on camera for 30 hours
during that telethon as well. Darn, I did not show up in the composite.
:)
2. Beatings and Shootings at the Church?
Come on now folks, some of your here were around when we had services at
KH-1 and the only thing like that, that I ever saw was that crazy kid who
stood outside KH-1 with a broken bottle saying that he was going to kill
himself because Doc (who he claimed was his father), would not see him.
Doc later said that if he was his kid it was truly a miracle as the mumps
sterilzed him when he was young.
3. Chris's Porsche
It was white.
As for the rest, well from what I have seen since he died, those Millions
have been used to keep the church afloat. Even Doc could not take it with
him.
-g
The Munk.
Oh you mean like God is a liar?
Or like my babay has a 186 IQ ?
15 languages (some latin) but needs
spanish translation?
Any more?
7T x7
Does any one remember what that was?
There was indeed a scuffle outside of KH 2, involving Don F. and Larry
Dudley... maybe two more, resulting in Marios plate glass window being
broken. There was court action, Doc had a camera recording the
proceeding, and Don lost. I was in the court room as an observer, at
Doc's request... as were others. In fact, the idea was to pack the court
room with Doc's observers.
I cannot imagine Ron starting a fire at the library. He would have to
tell me himself that he did it for me to believe that. The COD stuff and
Lehua.. yeah. The idea that he embezzeled from Faith Center... I guess
that would depend on how far you extend the definition of embezzelment.
Scott really did want the building and location of the COD, for which he
made a play, and lost.
Don't know about the timing of purchasing the DC-3, and the fund raising
for it. Remember something about Doc and Catalina Island but don't
remember details. Remember the FCC denying Scott a license for a station,
but thought it was the shortwave in Texas, so he made the application in
Christine's name.
There are many records at the Glendale police station involving Dr. Scott
and Faith Center. Doc tried to ingratiate himself on the Glendale police
officers by having the kitchen at KH 1 (big professional kitchen behind
the back wall, behind the audience) prepare food... fried chicken, steaks,
baked potato, milk, coffee, green beans... for the night shift. It was
there for the taking, hot and ready to serve anytime for the late night
shift. The PD briefed the officers not to go there, and they didn't. I
did a few overnights there myself, and no one showed up. We all ate the
food, which was very, very good. I remember reading Delorean's 'On a
clear day you can see General Motors' on the nights of my volunteer time.
Scott used to have 'off duty officers' sit on the platform to protect him
against personal assault. Truth is, they were on duty, part of
surveillance work they were doing because the PD thought it worthwhile to
'watch' what went on Sunday morning. How ironic.
Enough of these occurrances are well known and have been seen, that I tend
to believe the questionable one. The scam for COD happened as described.
Arson? All one would have to ask oneself is would it have benefited
scott? A composite sketch, along with some years observing drgene, would
probably convince me. "twink"
Eph writes..
But whoever you are..you stuck with him till 2005 to make this post..?
Come on are we ALL that dumb..??
IF the guys such a big crook..and YOU know so much...why not go to the
police and get the ball rollin on things..?
BS..pure "creamy" unsubstantiated BS..! Thank God this couldn't be used as
REAl evidence in a court of law..!
http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/02/gene_scott_dead.html
I don't know of a 947 Porsche. Could be she
meant 944. Unless there was a Boxster 947
or it was the red corvette.
Seems to me, and I wasn't around and
don't know these folks, but there's
enough games going on that the
renegade scotties felt justified
breaking rules for Doc-God.
I heard Doc laughed telling about
Christine tap dancing in high heels
on someone's car hood. The story
was he was parked in her spot or
something like that, implying she
drove. I could have that wrong,
maybe the man was blocking Doc's
spot or insulted her.
I remember that. Christine and Doc were going to see a show or
something, and I think had been waiting for a spot to park when some
guy just zoomed in and took theirs. An argument started...and that's
when Christine jumped on the hood of the car, telling the guy to move
it. I'm sure those high heels did a bit of damage.
Doc was laughing because the guy backed down from Christine. He seemed
to have enjoyed that in his women. Remember when he showed a clip of
him and all "My Little Ponies" riding behind him? Mel was in the pack,
and they were behind, when some guy in a truck started hassling them.
Doc thought it was funnier than whatever when Mel flipped the guy off.
He came back, and Doc bragged about how one got the advantage in a
fight by leaning up against the door so the guy couldn't get out.
Something like that.
But, it was another of those little tidbits he thought his congregation
would enjoy. Tough beauty flips off man...big stud comes to the
rescue. (Course nothing was said about the cameraman, security and
everyone else that was there).
:)
COULDN'T HAPPEN THEREFORE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
How the head spins, eh? lol
Yes, it would appear people just forgot about everyone behind the
camera, and simply retained only what they were seeing.
See it like that often enough...that's all you see. Have to remind
yourself, "Yo, braindeader, look behind the lens!"
Circumstantial evidence, corroborated
by witnesses and records can be enough
grounds for conviction.
Many of the duped were taken advantage
of for 20 years and didn't realize it
until Gene Scott failed to live to
lead them through the rapture. We've
heard many say here that it took them
years of ignoring that voice within
telling them things weren't right,
but ignoring it to be part of the
Gene Scott scene in the name of God.
Many have said it took one final
straw of abuse to break the camel's
back of blind obedience to Scott's
lies and hypocrisy.
matt2442:
Like with the guys throwing the dead birds in the air from behind the
camera as Doc was shooting at them. .
Turn, turn, turning again.
Right on about behind the lens.
Doc was NO ANGEL..but he did teach the Gospel correctly..!
Wasn't it PAUL that said he didn't care if some preached the Gospel out
of
envy..or for gain..or if some preached out of love..as long as the
RIGHT..CORRECT..Gospel was preached Paul didn't care WHAT the motive was
behind the person preaching it as long as it was correct..Because Paul
knew that IT being preached correctly..had the power to save people..!
Doc preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ correctly..and because of that
YOU
won't get "ultimately burnt"..! EVEN if you feel Doc "burnt you"..he
didn't..! Whatever you "feel" his motives were..He delivered the Gospel
to
you..!
EPHRIAM777 wrote:
> I guess I'm the "bad guy" around here now...and I'm the one to pile on
> ..because I disagree with you guys about Doc..!
>
> Doc was NO ANGEL..but he did teach the Gospel correctly..!
Emmett writes:
"No Angel", Dr. jean was a fuckin thief, crook and liar.
So you think Dr. jean taught tithing as a New Testament law
correctly?? Dr. jean tied almost all of his teachings to tithing.
Dr. jean's own words, "you can't get to heaven unless you tithe",
create a works doctrine. Do you believe you have to tithe to get
to heaven???
prettykitty wrote...Do you really think Dr.Scott was right when he said
God is a liar if He didn't heal him?
Is that teaching the Gospel? Sounded like blaspheming to me.
He even went so far as to say if you're sick it's because you didn't
have enough faith to reach that "amen state".
Was he preaching the Gospel then?
matt2442:
He probably didn't hear him say that either.
Eph writes..
No...That was ANOTHER place Doc was wrong..The NT teaches that even while
the Apostles were still alive there were limits on miracle healings.. Now
IF you never read the NT and all you did was "follow along" with what Doc
taught..and you didn't "check em out"..shame on ya..! In context that was
about "healing the soul"..not about the body..(( no matter how many times
Doc said otherwise ))
Paul had to leave one Christian brother in a town because he was sick near
death..NOw if Paul was teaching "just take communion and be healed"..then
why didn't he..? In another place Paul told someone to "take a little
wine" for your stomach's sake..Well again why not tell them to "take
communion and be healed"..!
See just because DOC screwed up here and there with some teachings doesn't
mean he was some "devil sent from hell to lead people astray"..! God can
heal if he see fit..but he never is compelled to do it..!
PK writes..
Is that teaching the Gospel? Sounded like blaspheming to me.
Eph says..
Not all the teachings from the Bible are from the "Gospel"..but I know
what your trying to say..When GOD said "prove me now herewith"..That was a
challenge from God basically saying "prove I'm a liar fro saying this"..Of
course we know..God is NOT a liar..and we could never prove God is a
liar.. Doc used it in that context meaning "of course God isn't a
liar"..!
PK writes..
He even went so far as to say if you're sick it's because you didn't
have enough faith to reach that "amen state".
Eph replies..
No..that's untrue..Doc many times said (to paraphrase)..that "even IF you
die and have to wake up over in heaven where God's word rules with no
friction"..! recall that being said.??
Doc never said "your faith is weak if your not healed"..Just the
opposite..!
So Prettykitty..be at least honest when you post..IF you want to jump on
Doc for teaching the tithe..you'd have a leg to stand on..but not with
what you said about healing..!
It DOES NOT excuse him of anything WHEN he continues to do the same sin
over and over and over and over and over with absolutely no repentance
in sight. In fact, he bragged about his sins after having one of his
famous tantrums then asking the congregation, "Do you love your pastor
now?"
As to the healing...he most certainly DID state achieving an AMEN level
of faith. Where the hell were you all that time? He only taught on it
over and over and over again when he got his cancer. He went from the
moronic position of, "You'll wake up on the other side healed," to
"Healing is in the atonement and it's a promise like all the rest and
God MUST heal me."
He did make claims when the cancer came back that the congregation had
weakened his immune system; that the congregation was faithless.
You, EPH, truly have a major problem. You seem to believe that all the
experiences people had were their fault and so you just laugh at them
or deny it happened or brush your hands of it. And though all of us
carry our own responsibilities for what we do, one must always ask the
why of it.
You just stop at that point and puff out your chest in zealous pride
and thank God you're not like us. You're too full of yourself to even
explore the why, the dynamics of how people relate. You don't consider
the consequences of leaving when the rest of your family stays. You
simply pick up another rock and throw it.
Well, keep on how you are with your need to be better, to dismiss the
sins of a pastor who caused a great deal of harm on a congregation with
the foolish notion that we all sin (making excuses...quite the enabler
of the abuser while dismissing any pain had by the abusees).
Keep on, Eph. As the Word states, "Pride comes before a fall." Yours
is going to be hard. Pray those who are around to help you up aren't
like you.
No..that's untrue..Doc many times said (to paraphrase)..that "even IF you
die and have to wake up over in heaven where God's word rules with no
friction"..! recall that being said.??
prettykitty wrote...Yes, he use to say that...but he stopped saying that
when he got sick.
Doc taught the fingernail grip of faith for a long time but in the last
year or so he taught that the healing would come when your faith touched
the amen level of faith.
It was right about or shortly after the time of the Benny Hinn fiasco and
the feminine arm of the Lord teaching stuff.
doc used to 'teach' the whole fingernail of faith
doctrine....up until the time he had to put it into practice in his own
life.
Then, that's when things started to unravel.
doc's teaching credibility was being dissected,
not only by the congregation but by him self trying to stay one step ahead
of those that were to someday figure him out. It was a race against
logical conclusion...and doc lost. He simply
ran out of time and ran out of lies.
Mekissa now has that domata baton. I think she's hiding it in a safe
place.
Doc's father died when he was 84.
The ole man's memory was going bad.
I remember his fathers age at death,
as I remember it being quite unusual
in the sense that one of Doc's
"signature" teachings/sermons
was on Psalms 84.
Kruppt
Eph kindly replies..
No..sorry Doc didn't say that at all.. He wasn't a "FAITH" in Faith
Preacher..He was a Faith in God Preacher..!
He also taught from Hebrews that "some died NOT having recieved the
promise"..remember that..? But they all held on in Faith..
Remember him saying "if you have to wake up over there where God's word
rules with no friction"..That was saying even IF your not healed
here..you'll BE healed over there..BUT don't let your infirmity bust your
Faith down here..THAT'S what Doc taught..
I heard Doc say some things that I disagreed with..but I also know he said
10 times as much more things that I did agree with...!
He was wrong on the tithe..
He was wrong about healing at the table of the Lord..
He was wrong about his position on evolution..( he changed it later and
corrected himself )
He was wrong to say that when HE taught God's word from the Pulpit WE
couldn't question him on it..
so the guy wasn't perfect..but what Pastor out there is..?
ANSWER : Nobody is..we're ALL sinners who at best..see through a glass
darkly..!
GAL 1:3 to you PrettyKitty..! That's a promise DOC can't take from
you..because he doesn't decide who get's it..!
Eph says..
He also said during that time that he knew alot of people would run to ol'
Bennie..but you could be healed right where you were by taking communion..
He didn't say "you 100% here and now will be healed"..Just that God could
heal you and you didn't have to run to Bennie the sweaty coat swinger..BUT
even if God didn't get healed..don't let your Faith fail you because of
it..!
Remember him saying that "one day you'd wake up and God would heal
you"..Well that doesn't sound like he was preaching "click your fingers
take communion..and God has to jump and heal you"..!
He also said he didn't think that people who weren't healed were "second
class Christians" somehow..!
Am I the only one who listened to Doc but "kept his thinkin cap on"..?
Kindly explain how it is that all these people (all meaning not only on
this NG, but those who maintained any consistency with LAUC = many,
MANY!) testify that Doc switched his teaching on "the fingernail grip
of faith" to achieving the Amen level of faith for healing....
Yet you deny it ever happened.
I'm concluding something is quite wrong with you, that your vision of
events is so narrow in scope, and so far into fantasy, that you simply
cannot hear what truly happened.
Your heart is too hard; your brain too shallow. Having distorted the
truth to such an extent, there's nothing more to say to you. As Doc
was so fond of saying, "You have the right to be wrong."
Kindly wallow in it to your pride's content.
prettykitty wrote....Yes, he did teach that truth for years...but when he
got sick, this last time, he said the reason he and others were not healed
was because that amen state was not reached.
prettykitty wrote...This guy is just like Jon....a know it all.
EPH is a bit scary in his distortions and arrogance. One would have to
wonder about who is speaking when they beat their chest and state: "Am
I the ONLY one who left my thinking cap on?"; and my favorite: "I was
Doc's Timothy." Sounds like pure ego to me.
His pathology leans a bit towards narcissism. And his thinking is
pushed through only one channel. It's baffling to listen to someone
carry on like this, especially when they are so far off the mark.
We can thank Mel for closing down the archives or we could throw the
100+ messages regarding Doc's stance on the Amen level in this fool's
face. Unfortunately, I doubt he'd still be able to grasp it. The
shock of being wrong and making such an ass out of himself would simply
be too much for him.
So, we'll just let him rant and be wrong. He has that right, doesn't
he? :)
Doc never said "your faith is weak if your not healed"..Just the
opposite..!
matt2442:
That was Doc's classic teaching. I remember it too. But were you
watching Doc towards the end? What do you think all that stuff about
reachintg the "amen level of faith" was about?
No..sorry Doc didn't say that at all.. He wasn't a "FAITH" in Faith
Preacher..He was a Faith in God Preacher..!
He also taught from Hebrews that "some died NOT having recieved the
promise"..remember that..? But they all held on in Faith..
Remember him saying "if you have to wake up over there where God's word
rules with no friction"..That was saying even IF your not healed
here..you'll BE healed over there..BUT don't let your infirmity bust
your
Faith down here..THAT'S what Doc taught..
matt2442:
EPHRIAM, everyone here remembers exactly what you are saying here, but
HE CHANGED ALL THAT WHEN HE GOT SICK. Don't you get it? He went on for
the last five years or so about reaching the AMEN level of faith.
Screaming Ephriam is in deep.
He needs MAJOR healing from his indoctrination.
Prayer and more prayer for this guy.
His continual posting here makes me believe he is
searching for help amongst bretheren........
He knows he won't and can't get that from
Mekissa's Volunteers of Fraud.
matt2442:
Although he tries to come across as a free thinker, he does seem to
have a lot in common with the die hard scotties we have heard from in
ther past, selective hearing of Dr. Scott's teachings being one of
them.
studio:
Prayer and more prayer for this guy.
His continual posting here makes me believe he is
searching for help amongst bretheren........
He knows he won't and can't get that from
Mekissa's Volunteers of Fraud.
matt2442:
Sure, I'll pray for him.
Eph chuckles and says..
Yeah right..you guys have to get me to take the RED pill right..? LOL So
I can see the Matrix for what it really was..! LOL
Hey, effie is entitled to his/her planet scott experience as are all
others. Considering that s/he was in the long distance audience,
his/her experience would have been much different than those in the
L.A. area up close and personal. S/he would have received what doc
chose to broadcast after editing etc.
I realize studio, that you feel some pull to help this person out more
power to you), but don't people need to WANT to be helped before you
reach out to get your face slapped? Remember when the prodigal son
realized what a dump his life became in his personal crapper after he
rec'd his inheritance, his father never did go to the pig sty to help
him out, he came to the father first. Just a thought?
Eph chuckles and says..
rpbc wrote: It's your analogy. And, is that a nervous laughing out loud
I hear?
Hey(screaming upper case) EPHRIAM777.... Go towards the light man...
towards the light. Up is that direction. I'm not Jesus though, I'm not
getting wet with you, not in that kind of 'stuff'.
gypsie: Or, at least, indicate s/he wants a leg up to aid in getting
out of the pig slop of the good old daze of doc. And, defending
selective listening is no way near asking for help. He likes it where
s/he is.
Eph nervously chuckles and blurts..!
Yeah..."walk towards the light Eph'.. (because we're already In the light
and your not smart enought to know that)..!
Why do I have the "Kings new Clothes" story in my mind when I read you
guys..?
matt2442:
That's "the Emperor's New Clothes", but you are not smart enough to
know that. They teach that story to little kids. You should apply that
one to yourself, as the anology fits. Those who were too intimidated,
blind, or ignorant to admit that the emperor was naked is an good
example of Scotties who can't admit or see clearly that Gene Scott was
an abusive asshole, and would rather still see him as a freedom fighter
and teacher of grace.
matt2442:
It is amazing that someone can find a way to put their foot in their
mouth, while their head is up their ass, but screaming EPHRIAM did just
that.
Yeah, blowtorched by Gene Scott is part of that dynamic that screamin
EPHRIAM doesn't grasp, having never done even one minute of live time
in the studio with the man as a VOF, much less any staff time, up close
and personal.
He'd have pissed all over himself if it ever happened to him.
The best effie could have hoped for was a letter that was destined to
be shit canned. Kinda like B4s who 'almost' came to L.A. to volunteer
except doc would not pay B4S' way. Oy vey!
BTW, Good to have you back effie. Neow we can play some more.
<gypsi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147636581.2...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
We got her number!
It's just sad really. I don't like to see such
suffering in another human being. I don't have that quality to just let
someone continue along the path of blatant scottism. Not without a try.
I know that it's totally up to effie to redirect
the circular path of reasoning but he needs a window of opportunity to do
so.
A simple subject matter that gets her to think
and think without the ties to docisms.
That's a start, and it's in the right direction.
Right now effie is pridefully responding with
sarcasm and spiritual oneupmanship!
An easy crack. Yes?
"Rudeness is a weak imitation of strength".
- Eric Hoffer
gypsie: probably still glued to his wall huddled in fear. He is like
Santa Claus (checking his list.... to see who's naughty and nice). It
is really tough being 'special' ya know.
That's my approach!
The best effie could have hoped for was a letter that was destined to
be shit canned. Kinda like B4s who 'almost' came to L.A. to volunteer
except doc would not pay B4S' way. Oy vey!
rpbc wrote: It all depends on whether Doc felt he needed to sacrifice
someone as an example. (screaming upper case)EHPRIAM777 wouldn't last
long, that's for sure. I was thinking that if Doc was still around in all
his glory, how much fun it would be to print out his posts of criticism
about Doc, and his letters of defense, and drop them through the slot at
KH2. Odds are much greater for an episode of exemplarily blowtorching
then if (screaming upper case)EPHRIAM777's actually presented his
diminutive self at a festival. Five minutes under that gaze and it would
be a week before he could even find his pecker, much less enjoy it....
know what I mean...
Doc didn't suffer fools, but one way or the other, he often made use for
them.
I think he is sulking, maybe trying to reconcile his thinking to what he
has directed at him from here.