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rpbc
Jul 28, 2012, 6:06:19 PM7/28/12
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For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
Weatherman
Jul 29, 2012, 7:03:23 AM7/29/12
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On Jul 28, 11:06 am, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
WM-Without looking these "releases" probably serve the current regime
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
heading. Scrub a dub dub. Why dont see run the rerun where Gene reads
the basic layout of the "Saving Privet Ryan" movie long before Robert
Rodat ever got ahold of it? Theres just a hole bunch of neat stuff
like that on those old festival tapes. Not to mention others.
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Jul 29, 2012, 2:35:05 PM7/29/12
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On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
So, have you made reservations yet?
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
rpbc
Jul 29, 2012, 3:18:41 PM7/29/12
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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:35:05 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
>
Studio:
> On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
>
> So, have you made reservations yet?
rpbc:
No reservation, there's enough insanity in the world to avoid, not signing up for any..... but much has been said of her erasing Scott. In the mentioned link she is doing what many said was the right thing to do regarding his teachings. Without regard to the value of those teachings, by making them available she is doing the right thing by those who do value them. She might be reasoning it will help her efforts to promote herself... doing it grudgingly... but she is doing it.
TroubledFaither
Jul 29, 2012, 3:51:19 PM7/29/12
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to promote him again. Today I listened for about 3 minutes and in
that time she announced that August was going to be a special month to
celebrate all month long, for both GS' birthday and also their
marriage anniversary (the 13th). So she said the bookstore would be
open every Sunday in August and there would be a 'cool new way to buy
stuff' but you had to go to the bookstore to see it.
I gotta admit whoever her healer/collaborator is has done a great job--
she looks so much better than she has in months. She seemed in great
spirits today, almost giddy, and her French-Canadian accent was more
prominent than I recall in a long time. Well, good for her . . .
rpbc
Jul 29, 2012, 4:02:07 PM7/29/12
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I noticed her accent too. Her Southern accent comes forward when she's conscious of lying to those who know better. She does look better, must have put down certain things and started eating right... either that or she made a good buy. About the Scott sermons, they are digitized from old tapes which required time and probably considerable cost for recovering the old tapes. Between sermons there is a nice video collage of still photos from his family scrape book.
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Jul 29, 2012, 3:38:34 PM7/29/12
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On Jul 29, 12:18 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
than any of her PMS vids.
She has done this kind of thing before though. She used to play old GS
sermons during
the afternoon hour on some AM radio station a few years back. Remember
that?
TroubledFaither
Jul 29, 2012, 7:15:15 PM7/29/12
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On Jul 29, 12:38 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes, I do recall that--it didn't last long and always seemed like she
was playing his stuff because she had to. It was classics like VF-161
(Mark 14:54, "Peter followed afar off"), etc. Notice she never plays
anything from the 80s or 90s. And today she plays nothing of the
mental illness/possession years. Today's audience will never see a
chubby Dr. Scott faithlessly wearing an obvious bullet-proof vest
under his shirt and jacket, bellowing out to a sparse audience about a
lack of giving. She only plays the 'good' stuff'.
The very early teachings of this man did seem sincere--let's face it,
his early teachings are what hooked most of us once we heard them. He
did have the intelligence and gift to truly be a great man of God's
Word, but somehow, that didn't happen. It's sad. He went awry and
for himself instead of God. He lost many years of real teaching and
ministry immersed in blinding self-focus. He twisted God's Word and
the gift God gave him. And now we have the bizarre MS aftermath to
live with in place of his real but AWOL ministry. Sad, when ya really
think of it.
wrote:
was playing his stuff because she had to. It was classics like VF-161
(Mark 14:54, "Peter followed afar off"), etc. Notice she never plays
anything from the 80s or 90s. And today she plays nothing of the
mental illness/possession years. Today's audience will never see a
chubby Dr. Scott faithlessly wearing an obvious bullet-proof vest
under his shirt and jacket, bellowing out to a sparse audience about a
lack of giving. She only plays the 'good' stuff'.
The very early teachings of this man did seem sincere--let's face it,
his early teachings are what hooked most of us once we heard them. He
did have the intelligence and gift to truly be a great man of God's
Word, but somehow, that didn't happen. It's sad. He went awry and
for himself instead of God. He lost many years of real teaching and
ministry immersed in blinding self-focus. He twisted God's Word and
the gift God gave him. And now we have the bizarre MS aftermath to
live with in place of his real but AWOL ministry. Sad, when ya really
think of it.
babyshoes
Jul 29, 2012, 7:25:22 PM7/29/12
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Scott's teachings and persona will only enhanced her own.
rpbc
Jul 29, 2012, 7:51:19 PM7/29/12
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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 12:38:34 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Jul 29, 12:18 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:35:05 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
> >
>
> > Studio:
>
> >
>
> > > So, have you made reservations yet?
>
> >
>
> > rpbc:
>
> > No reservation, there's enough insanity in the world to avoid, not signing up for any..... but much has been said of her erasing Scott. In the mentioned link she is doing what many said was the right thing to do regarding his teachings. Without regard to the value of those teachings, by making them available she is doing the right thing by those who do value them. She might be reasoning it will help her efforts to promote herself... doing it grudgingly... but she is doing it.
>
>
Studio:
> On Jul 29, 12:18 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:35:05 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
> >
>
> > Studio:
>
> >
>
> > > So, have you made reservations yet?
>
> >
>
> > rpbc:
>
> > No reservation, there's enough insanity in the world to avoid, not signing up for any..... but much has been said of her erasing Scott. In the mentioned link she is doing what many said was the right thing to do regarding his teachings. Without regard to the value of those teachings, by making them available she is doing the right thing by those who do value them. She might be reasoning it will help her efforts to promote herself... doing it grudgingly... but she is doing it.
>
>
> She might soon realize that the Gene Scott link will have more hits
>
> than any of her PMS vids.
>
>
>
> She has done this kind of thing before though. She used to play old GS
>
> sermons during
>
> the afternoon hour on some AM radio station a few years back. Remember
>
> that?
rpbc:
>
> than any of her PMS vids.
>
>
>
> She has done this kind of thing before though. She used to play old GS
>
> sermons during
>
> the afternoon hour on some AM radio station a few years back. Remember
>
> that?
His link on her page might get more listens than hers but the overall affect would be positive for her since not only will she increase her own traffic by some amount but those who value Scott's messages might contribute to her for making and keeping them available. Truth is some of those earlier messages were quite good and were what attracted me and others in the first place. True.. even now when I listen that angrily challenging tone is discernable but not always and not on all the messages and I think whomever is doing the editing is wisely taking out as much of it as possible while leaving the message intact. The ones I've seen... three to count sampled at different times of the day... had very little of it if any. Not that I've talent for editing Scott but what I've seen is done the way I'd do it if given the task.
rpbc
Jul 29, 2012, 7:56:39 PM7/29/12
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On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:25:22 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote:
> On Jul 29, 12:38 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 12:18 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:35:05 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
> >
>
> > > Studio:
>
> >
>
> > > > So, have you made reservations yet?
>
> >
>
> > > rpbc:
>
> > > No reservation, there's enough insanity in the world to avoid, not signing up for any..... but much has been said of her erasing Scott. In the mentioned link she is doing what many said was the right thing to do regarding his teachings. Without regard to the value of those teachings, by making them available she is doing the right thing by those who do value them. She might be reasoning it will help her efforts to promote herself... doing it grudgingly... but she is doing it.
>
> >
BBS:
> On Jul 29, 12:38 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 29, 12:18 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:35:05 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
> >
>
> > > Studio:
>
> >
>
> > > > So, have you made reservations yet?
>
> >
>
> > > rpbc:
>
> > > No reservation, there's enough insanity in the world to avoid, not signing up for any..... but much has been said of her erasing Scott. In the mentioned link she is doing what many said was the right thing to do regarding his teachings. Without regard to the value of those teachings, by making them available she is doing the right thing by those who do value them. She might be reasoning it will help her efforts to promote herself... doing it grudgingly... but she is doing it.
>
> >
> > She might soon realize that the Gene Scott link will have more hits
>
> > than any of her PMS vids.
>
> >
>
> > She has done this kind of thing before though. She used to play old GS
>
> > sermons during
>
> > the afternoon hour on some AM radio station a few years back. Remember
>
> > that?
>
>
>
> maybe now she has more confidence in herself..and can see that Gene
>
> Scott's teachings and persona will only enhanced her own.
rpbc:
>
> > than any of her PMS vids.
>
> >
>
> > She has done this kind of thing before though. She used to play old GS
>
> > sermons during
>
> > the afternoon hour on some AM radio station a few years back. Remember
>
> > that?
>
>
>
> maybe now she has more confidence in herself..and can see that Gene
>
> Scott's teachings and persona will only enhanced her own.
I remember her saying that about the AM radio. It's funny, she has tried to assume Scott's teachings and persona as her own. I hear you about confidence though and maybe she's realized competition with him to be him does not enhance her.... but playing his better stuff will. I believe it.
babyshoes
Jul 29, 2012, 8:56:02 PM7/29/12
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his better stuff.. is a matter of opinion..though..
I liked him better when he loosened up....
toward the end of classic doc and beyond..
Matt2442
Jul 29, 2012, 9:16:31 PM7/29/12
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On Jul 28, 3:06 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
Matt2442:
She has been doing that for a long time. It's been a while, but I
clicked on that link a while back and the same early services were
playing.
Matt2442
Jul 29, 2012, 9:48:49 PM7/29/12
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While the streaming of classic Doc is not new (I'm pretty sure she has
been doing that for a while now), I'm more inclined to agree with rpbc
as to whether it is his better stuff these days. I liked him better
when he loosened up too but that was also when he became even more
abusive. What she is doing is what was discussed around the time of
Doc's death. Some who wanted his teaching to be preserved thought that
it should all be preserved as it was originally presented, warts and
all. Others suggested that perhaps the earliest stuff was the best
choice to be preserved as the later stuff is too tainted with Scott's
madness. A third option was let her bury it all. God doesn't need Gene
Scott to get His message out there.
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DP
Jul 30, 2012, 12:43:50 PM7/30/12
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A few that have been shown in recent weeks include:
VF-3 1/11/76 Matthew 12 - A Bruised Reed He Shall Not Break
VF-13 4/25/76 Be Of Good Courage
VF-18 6/13/76 Psalm 37 - Fret Not
VF-25 8/8/76 Psalm 77 - The Bible's Answer to Misery
VF-35 12/26/76 Psalm 46
VF-53 5/8/77 God Couldn't Be Everywhere So He Made Mothers
Several Easter messages from this timeframe and other classics like Gideon and The Potter's House have also been aired. In between the sermons there's a short slideshow of Doc set to music
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Jul 30, 2012, 3:15:43 PM7/30/12
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On Jul 29, 6:48 pm, Matt2442 <matt2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matt2442:
> While the streaming of classic Doc is not new (I'm pretty sure she has
> been doing that for a while now), I'm more inclined to agree with rpbc
> as to whether it is his better stuff these days. I liked him better
> when he loosened up too but that was also when he became even more
> abusive. What she is doing is what was discussed around the time of
> Doc's death. Some who wanted his teaching to be preserved thought that
> it should all be preserved as it was originally presented, warts and
> all. Others suggested that perhaps the earliest stuff was the best
> choice to be preserved as the later stuff is too tainted with Scott's
> madness. A third option was let her bury it all. God doesn't need Gene
> Scott to get His message out there.
.
>
> Matt2442:
> While the streaming of classic Doc is not new (I'm pretty sure she has
> been doing that for a while now), I'm more inclined to agree with rpbc
> as to whether it is his better stuff these days. I liked him better
> when he loosened up too but that was also when he became even more
> abusive. What she is doing is what was discussed around the time of
> Doc's death. Some who wanted his teaching to be preserved thought that
> it should all be preserved as it was originally presented, warts and
> all. Others suggested that perhaps the earliest stuff was the best
> choice to be preserved as the later stuff is too tainted with Scott's
> madness. A third option was let her bury it all. God doesn't need Gene
> Scott to get His message out there.
studio:
Is there a point though where if you only show the shiny side of
Gene Scott and hide the tainted underlying persona that you lose
a certain credibility with your target audience?
It would be like The Apostle Paul or Peter only having their
best letters put forth into cannonization while they slipped
into a lifestyle of sin and retrograde. Would that matter
in the long run how they ended up in their walk of faith?
Of course it would matter! We need to embrace the entire
unadulterated version in order to make sense of the
concepts and context of such preachers like Gene Scott.
To leave out his actual behavior is a sin of omission
no matter how cute and cuddly one might want
Gene Scott to be. It would affect whatever message
he was setting up.
Would it be fair to an unsuspecting audience to
not play any message about giving, tithing or
firstfruits when we all know his obsession with
such subjects?
A kinder and gentler Gene Scott? My ass!
Matt2442
Jul 30, 2012, 3:25:43 PM7/30/12
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That was the essence of the discussion back then. Cleaning up Scott's
image by presenting only the better of his teaching vs. playing it
all, raw and unedited. In any case, Melissa can't clean up Scott's
image very well by only showing the early stuff, because like it or
not, the other stuff is out there beyond her ability to bury it.
Matt2442
Jul 30, 2012, 3:26:47 PM7/30/12
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Any idea as to how often the same messages get replayed?
Matt2442
Jul 30, 2012, 3:32:15 PM7/30/12
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Just checked right after my last post and the message playing is Psalm
37, with blue curtains closed behind the platform. I suspect there are
very few messages being played out of the whole of Scott's teaching,
and the ones that are are being played are constantly rerun over and
over again.
Matt2442
Jul 30, 2012, 3:50:48 PM7/30/12
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I guess a better way to frame the argument (if there is one) is to
ask, whatever Melissa's motives may be for playing any of Scott's
messages, "what out of the entire body of Scott's recorded teaching
is the most edifying, and actually has the capacity to minister to
God's people or to those who are not yet His, but are still seeking?"
Any of it? None of it at all? Only the stuff from the earliest years?
gypsi...@gmail.com
Jul 31, 2012, 2:40:08 AM7/31/12
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On Monday, July 30, 2012 12:25:43 PM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote:
> > > Matt2442: > > While the streaming of classic Doc is not new (I'm pretty sure she has > > been doing that for a while now), I'm more inclined to agree with rpbc > > as to whether it is his better stuff these days. I liked him better > > when he loosened up too but that was also when he became even more > > abusive. What she is doing is what was discussed around the time of > > Doc's death. Some who wanted his teaching to be preserved thought that > > it should all be preserved as it was originally presented, warts and > > all. Others suggested that perhaps the earliest stuff was the best > > choice to be preserved as the later stuff is too tainted with Scott's > > madness. A third option was let her bury it all. God doesn't need Gene > > Scott to get His message out there. > > . > studio: > Is there a point though where if you only show the shiny side of > Gene Scott and hide the tainted underlying persona that you lose > a certain credibility with your target audience? > > It would be like The Apostle Paul or Peter only having their > best letters put forth into cannonization while they slipped > into a lifestyle of sin and retrograde. Would that matter > in the long run how they ended up in their walk of faith? > > Of course it would matter! We need to embrace the entire > unadulterated version in order to make sense of the > concepts and context of such preachers like Gene Scott. > > To leave out his actual behavior is a sin of omission > no matter how cute and cuddly one might want > Gene Scott to be. It would affect whatever message > he was setting up. > > Would it be fair to an unsuspecting audience to > not play any message about giving, tithing or > firstfruits when we all know his obsession with > such subjects? > > A kinder and gentler Gene Scott? My ass! Matt2442: That was the essence of the discussion back then. Cleaning up Scott's image by presenting only the better of his teaching vs. playing it all, raw and unedited. In any case, Melissa can't clean up Scott's image very well by only showing the early stuff, because like it or not, the other stuff is out there beyond her ability to bury it.
gypsie: in today's political climate, hate crimes, racism and all that other stuff that is being traded upon and shoved down people's throats, much of doc in the raw probably would not survive long
> > > Matt2442: > > While the streaming of classic Doc is not new (I'm pretty sure she has > > been doing that for a while now), I'm more inclined to agree with rpbc > > as to whether it is his better stuff these days. I liked him better > > when he loosened up too but that was also when he became even more > > abusive. What she is doing is what was discussed around the time of > > Doc's death. Some who wanted his teaching to be preserved thought that > > it should all be preserved as it was originally presented, warts and > > all. Others suggested that perhaps the earliest stuff was the best > > choice to be preserved as the later stuff is too tainted with Scott's > > madness. A third option was let her bury it all. God doesn't need Gene > > Scott to get His message out there. > > . > studio: > Is there a point though where if you only show the shiny side of > Gene Scott and hide the tainted underlying persona that you lose > a certain credibility with your target audience? > > It would be like The Apostle Paul or Peter only having their > best letters put forth into cannonization while they slipped > into a lifestyle of sin and retrograde. Would that matter > in the long run how they ended up in their walk of faith? > > Of course it would matter! We need to embrace the entire > unadulterated version in order to make sense of the > concepts and context of such preachers like Gene Scott. > > To leave out his actual behavior is a sin of omission > no matter how cute and cuddly one might want > Gene Scott to be. It would affect whatever message > he was setting up. > > Would it be fair to an unsuspecting audience to > not play any message about giving, tithing or > firstfruits when we all know his obsession with > such subjects? > > A kinder and gentler Gene Scott? My ass! Matt2442: That was the essence of the discussion back then. Cleaning up Scott's image by presenting only the better of his teaching vs. playing it all, raw and unedited. In any case, Melissa can't clean up Scott's image very well by only showing the early stuff, because like it or not, the other stuff is out there beyond her ability to bury it.
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jeremyha...@gmail.com
Feb 12, 2013, 4:48:38 PM2/12/13
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On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
S
> For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
gypsie
Feb 12, 2013, 7:25:58 PM2/12/13
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On Feb 12, 1:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her sitehttp://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtmland click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> S
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
gypsie: so jeremiah how is your post relevant today? the site is down
> S
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
and unless you can provide a new living linkie dinkie, why wait for
over 6 months to make your comment? Afraid the scottie-monsters under
the bed will get ya? lol
rpbc
Feb 12, 2013, 8:43:25 PM2/12/13
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On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:48:38 PM UTC-8, jeremyha...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
>
>
> S
JM:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her site http://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtml and click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
>
>
>
> S
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
rpbc:
SHE, you loudly capitalize your reverence. Well, you're firmly under missy's command. I don't know of a single ex-kingshouse who currently deify Gene Scott though I see you put it in past tense. Keeping with the subject though, it is HER being deified now by current scotties as those 'committments' to be 'drafted' for the 'duration' have had them shifted to HER. Missy is defying Dr. Scott's own desires for his messages to be available and since the time I posted seeing his earlier messages she has merely edited from the catalogue those supportive of her, nothing else. By the way, no one claimed she was doing it because of ex-kinghouses complaints. Being defensive you read that into it. Anyway... were you around for the Gene Scott period and if so for how long?
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 12, 2013, 8:52:26 PM2/12/13
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jeremyha:
studio:
You got it all wrong Jeremiah Red. The only reason most of us are here is because we listened to Gene Scott until his rants and illogic
made us look at the man behind the curtain. For all of Gene's learned
abilities to teach, there were underlined motives of misuse of
his pastoral position. That includes a laundry list of physical
and spiritual abuse plus the obvious scripture twisting of OT tithing
schemes to Christians no longer under that aspect of The Law.
Secondly, I want to thank you for your participation on this
forum. Most "scotties" are standoffish to speak their minds on their
own behalf even though they might be smart enough to do so. I feel they
have been shut down, unable to think for themselves and therefore
don't comment, here, there, or anywhere....including church.
So feel free to discuss whatever issue comes up that you want to comment on.
Ask any question you want, and don't be afraid to do so.
You know, until we uncovered the truth about....Gene Scott, I'm sure there were some who wanted Gene's tapes available. But I don't think anyone here
wants that anymore. You have to understand, Gene Scott was in my opinion
mentally ill, maybe even for decades ill. Sick enough to pick
Ponygirl Melissa as his successor. Did you know inside staff used to call her
phoney baloney? That was Melissa's nickname. Yup. Some of those are still
there to this day. So ask yourself Red, who's fooling who?
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
.
studio:
You got it all wrong Jeremiah Red. The only reason most of us are here is because we listened to Gene Scott until his rants and illogic
made us look at the man behind the curtain. For all of Gene's learned
abilities to teach, there were underlined motives of misuse of
his pastoral position. That includes a laundry list of physical
and spiritual abuse plus the obvious scripture twisting of OT tithing
schemes to Christians no longer under that aspect of The Law.
Secondly, I want to thank you for your participation on this
forum. Most "scotties" are standoffish to speak their minds on their
own behalf even though they might be smart enough to do so. I feel they
have been shut down, unable to think for themselves and therefore
don't comment, here, there, or anywhere....including church.
So feel free to discuss whatever issue comes up that you want to comment on.
Ask any question you want, and don't be afraid to do so.
You know, until we uncovered the truth about....Gene Scott, I'm sure there were some who wanted Gene's tapes available. But I don't think anyone here
wants that anymore. You have to understand, Gene Scott was in my opinion
mentally ill, maybe even for decades ill. Sick enough to pick
Ponygirl Melissa as his successor. Did you know inside staff used to call her
phoney baloney? That was Melissa's nickname. Yup. Some of those are still
there to this day. So ask yourself Red, who's fooling who?
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 12, 2013, 9:10:03 PM2/12/13
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jeremyha:
Three sentences.
I read the contempt and misguided anger in those few words above.
The twisted non truth of sentence two is amazing! How can anyone
of us "demand" anything? We are just speaking our mind, but we know
that is not allowed in The Scott Cult. Therefore the bitter, defensive
stance of sentence two.
Sentence three, "God damn those that don't reverence PMS with
their time and money!" A nonthinking KH docism alluding to
a pipedream military movement: the words "drafted" and "duration".
Both taken from to different aspects of American military discourse.
Drafted, from The Vietnam era and Duration from WWII.
I kinda have a feeling our Jerry has neither war in his military
portfolio.
You are correct rpbc, those "commitments" are residual deification
mantras upholding the New Regime with the old ideological pillars.
It just proves how much of a cult this still really is.
I'm glad we got out my friend.
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
studio:
Three sentences.
I read the contempt and misguided anger in those few words above.
The twisted non truth of sentence two is amazing! How can anyone
of us "demand" anything? We are just speaking our mind, but we know
that is not allowed in The Scott Cult. Therefore the bitter, defensive
stance of sentence two.
Sentence three, "God damn those that don't reverence PMS with
their time and money!" A nonthinking KH docism alluding to
a pipedream military movement: the words "drafted" and "duration".
Both taken from to different aspects of American military discourse.
Drafted, from The Vietnam era and Duration from WWII.
I kinda have a feeling our Jerry has neither war in his military
portfolio.
You are correct rpbc, those "commitments" are residual deification
mantras upholding the New Regime with the old ideological pillars.
It just proves how much of a cult this still really is.
I'm glad we got out my friend.
Matt2442
Feb 13, 2013, 1:23:15 PM2/13/13
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> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
Matt2442:
Welcome to AFGS Jeremy. It's been a long time since we had a current
supporter of either Doc or PMS in here. I hope you will post every so
often. Yes, it's true, many people deified Gene Scott, and a lot of
people have since had their eyes opened and have gotten over it. Your
language here suggests that you and others have transferred the
deification to from Dr. Scott to Pastor Melissa Scott. Not much has
changed.
Matt2442
Feb 13, 2013, 1:47:48 PM2/13/13
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On Feb 12, 4:25 pm, gypsie <gypsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> gypsie: so jeremiah how is your post relevant today? the site is down
> and unless you can provide a new living linkie dinkie, why wait for
> over 6 months to make your comment? Afraid the scottie-monsters under
> the bed will get ya? lol
Matt2442:
> gypsie: so jeremiah how is your post relevant today? the site is down
> and unless you can provide a new living linkie dinkie, why wait for
> over 6 months to make your comment? Afraid the scottie-monsters under
> the bed will get ya? lol
Could be he didn't see this until now, which means at least he is
searching the AFGS archives. I hope he finds and reads some good stuff
in there.
Matt2442
Feb 13, 2013, 2:14:16 PM2/13/13
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You can see a lot in this one little post.
1) ex-king's houses deifying Dr. Scott - spoken as if this person did
NOT deify Scott like just about everyone else in that church when Doc
was alive.
By the way, it is not necessarily a symptom of deifying a man (though
scotties certainly did that) to prefer his teaching over that of
Melissa.
2) "Drafted for the duration" - Something Doc himself started, and
dangerous language really. It apparently still continues with PMS and
her minions. It is one thing to be drafted for the duration as far as
following Jesus Christ Himself.That is a commitment you don't want to
walk away from. It is another thing when applied to a church or a
pastor, as if that church or it's pastor could never go astray from
being led by the Lord, and become an abusive, manipulative cult.
3) God Bless Her and the Faithful - as in God damn those who left for
whatever reason. Here we apparently still have an attitude on planet
Scott that those who have stopped supporting have abandoned Jesus
Christ by doing so.
gypsie
Feb 13, 2013, 4:01:58 PM2/13/13
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. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 13, 2013, 4:10:50 PM2/13/13
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Why don't we repost some of those good threads
now that google groups has their archive handling
fixed.
Maybe we can post a few for Jeremyha?
now that google groups has their archive handling
fixed.
Maybe we can post a few for Jeremyha?
gypsie
Feb 13, 2013, 4:53:29 PM2/13/13
to . (((((((studio))))))) .
On Feb 13, 1:10 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
gypsie: apparently the email addy is jeremyha...@gmail.com, can
we start from there?
I looked around and could not find anything to search with, mebbe
some of our super dooper searchers can accomplish this?
wrote:
we start from there?
I looked around and could not find anything to search with, mebbe
some of our super dooper searchers can accomplish this?
rpbc
Feb 13, 2013, 10:00:48 PM2/13/13
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You know Matt... I don't think Red would even be posting here unless he was having misgivings about Melissa. Remember Scott would chastise anyone for even speaking or listening to someone speaking adversely about him? Speaking as a cult leader he knew and correctly said that it was a signature of interest in what they were saying, not merely taking them on, defending, or attempting to set them straight... there is some psychology involved there. A person can be turned in those kinds of exchanges. Red was/is here for a reason different then having just dropped in to do some field work for the planet. He's having issues about the planet and his involvement in it.. and he has all those phrases running through his mind like enlisted, commitment, duration, not taking one's hand from the plow, robes and crowns, the elect, turning from one's first love, getting up walking in the right direction, etc. like a vaccination against clear and rational thought about Melissa, Scott, and the whole of the planet experience. Unlike the time of Doc's final illness when this was the only place real information was available the one's who come by now are having real issues about their involvement in the charade of Melissa. Underneath everything, there is no other motivation for them being here. That's what I think and besides it reasoning well I too was a scottie and know it would have been the reason I would be here. Scott knew it and applied it across the board with KHs, vofs, and congregants... so does Melissa, that's why she forbid any scottie to read here least it overwhelm the vaccination.
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 1:02:24 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 12, 4:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
> > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her sitehttp://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtmland click the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
> On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> S
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
fuck how she feels and its too little to late in fact who wants to
> S
> The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
return to that vomit?
ex kings houses that defied dr scott
lmao
there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
whore?
put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
gods word of prescription
god forbid they should defy doc lmao
when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
doc)shit
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 1:10:33 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 1:02 am, john doe <surfk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 12, 4:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
> > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her sitehttp://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtmlandclick the Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
> On Feb 12, 4:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> > S
> > The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
>
> fuck how she feels and its too little to late in fact who wants to
> return to that vomit?
>
> ex kings houses that defied dr scott
>
> lmao
>
> there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
> whore?
>
> put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
> regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
> gods word of prescription
>
> god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
> doc)shit
see the truth is WE not doc or his bitch need to understand what
> > S
> > The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
>
> fuck how she feels and its too little to late in fact who wants to
> return to that vomit?
>
> ex kings houses that defied dr scott
>
> lmao
>
> there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
> whore?
>
> put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
> regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
> gods word of prescription
>
> god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
> doc)shit
happened there not return to it. see more dog bs now watch the
response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent and conclusion
of response
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 16, 2013, 1:37:33 AM2/16/13
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kevin:
studio:
First of all you idiot, that SIO type childish rant was
talking about holding doc as deity, hence the word "deified".
It's not defy stupid, it's DEIFY! DEE-IF-EYE....(gawd yer dumb!)
Once again Kevin you have your head squarely up your ass
on this. How can anyone take anything you say seriously when
one critical word from a SIO clone throws you completely
off course!
The rest of your moronic rants are no better than any krug
gibberish and deserve to be in that same category. I wish
the meteor woulda hit your little carnival town.
For you to identify yourself with the I AM of The Bible
is complete lunacy on your part. Here I am typing
a post to a complete lunatic, hoping he'll have
sense enough to know how jackass stupid he sounds.
I hope you'll get the help you need. But you seem
far beyond help. A damaged mind is only cured by God's
healing hand, and your writings and videos prove to
onlookers that you are very very mentally ill.
> > ex kings houses that defied dr scott
>
> >
>
> > lmao
>
> >
>
> > there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
>
> > whore?
>
> >
>
> > put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
>
> > regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
>
> > gods word of prescription
>
> >
>
> > god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> >
>
> > when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
>
> > doc)shit
>
>
>
> see the truth is WE not doc or his bitch need to understand what
>
> happened there not return to it. see more dog bs now watch the
>
> response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent and conclusion
>
> of response
.
>
> >
>
> > lmao
>
> >
>
> > there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
>
> > whore?
>
> >
>
> > put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
>
> > regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
>
> > gods word of prescription
>
> >
>
> > god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> >
>
> > when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
>
> > doc)shit
>
>
>
> see the truth is WE not doc or his bitch need to understand what
>
> happened there not return to it. see more dog bs now watch the
>
> response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent and conclusion
>
> of response
studio:
First of all you idiot, that SIO type childish rant was
talking about holding doc as deity, hence the word "deified".
It's not defy stupid, it's DEIFY! DEE-IF-EYE....(gawd yer dumb!)
Once again Kevin you have your head squarely up your ass
on this. How can anyone take anything you say seriously when
one critical word from a SIO clone throws you completely
off course!
The rest of your moronic rants are no better than any krug
gibberish and deserve to be in that same category. I wish
the meteor woulda hit your little carnival town.
For you to identify yourself with the I AM of The Bible
is complete lunacy on your part. Here I am typing
a post to a complete lunatic, hoping he'll have
sense enough to know how jackass stupid he sounds.
I hope you'll get the help you need. But you seem
far beyond help. A damaged mind is only cured by God's
healing hand, and your writings and videos prove to
onlookers that you are very very mentally ill.
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 6:41:58 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 1:37 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> onlookers that you are very very mentally ill.- Hide quoted text -
fuck off and die sudio
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>
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i didnt even read you studio thats how done I AM with you
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fuck off and die sudio
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 6:47:26 AM2/16/13
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jd
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studio ya stupid old man
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 6:55:34 AM2/16/13
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> - Show quoted text -
hey studio how bout you just keep spell check'n and shut the fuck up
> - Show quoted text -
ya stupid ole man. leave the speaking to the worthwhile get me a soda
do boy... aint good for nothin else but flack and im inclined to drop
nuclear bombs from god on your ass and be done with it studly
another "one less regret"
heaven is gonna be roomy and refreshing absent your garbage ya fuckin
trash bag
scince you keep calling me by name come on down here and behold you
fucking hot air coward smak
you are words generated from a broken down think tank
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 8:06:54 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 1:10 am, john doe <surfk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 1:02 am, john doe <surfk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 4:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
> > > > For those who have decryed Melissa taking down the archieves and systematically erasing Gene Scott from Faith Center she is providing from her web site classic Scott teaching services as they were originally broadcast from KH 1 in the early years. Go to her sitehttp://www.pastormelissascott.com/index.shtmlandclickthe Gene Scott button at the top right of the page. I've done this a number of times at different times of the day and each time there is a Scott Sunday message playing from the old days... before the banquets, early mid to early 80s and before. For whatever reason she is doing it.
> On Feb 16, 1:02 am, john doe <surfk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 4:48 pm, jeremyharris1...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > On Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, rpbc wrote:
>
> > > S
> > > The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
>
> > fuck how she feels and its too little to late in fact who wants to
> > return to that vomit?
>
> > ex kings houses that defied dr scott
>
> > lmao
>
> > there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
> > whore?
>
> > put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
> > regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
> > gods word of prescription
>
> > god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> > when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
> > doc)shit
>
> see the truth is WE not doc or his bitch need to understand what
> happened there not return to it. see more dog bs now watch the
> response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent and conclusion
> of response- Hide quoted text -
> > > S
> > > The reason she is doing it now is because SHE feels it's time to do it.NOT because of ex-kingshouses who deified Dr.Scott,demanding that she had to release older teaching.God Bless her and the Faithful who are staying true to their committments to be drafted for the duration.
>
> > fuck how she feels and its too little to late in fact who wants to
> > return to that vomit?
>
> > ex kings houses that defied dr scott
>
> > lmao
>
> > there are no x'x just y's and i got those answers who needs doc or the
> > whore?
>
> > put this ignorence in its place for what it is and what it isnt with
> > regards to as well as according to the tarry and the encryption of
> > gods word of prescription
>
> > god forbid they should defy doc lmao
>
> > when ya get back watch for the puddles of regugitated refined (per
> > doc)shit
>
> see the truth is WE not doc or his bitch need to understand what
> happened there not return to it. see more dog bs now watch the
> response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent and conclusion
>
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jd
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"now watch the response be piggish with haughty or presumtious intent
and conclusion of response"
and sure as shit studio shows up lol fuckin dog fuckin pig fuckin
and conclusion of response"
hopeless
and as for you returning x kingshouses that DEIFIED dr scott watch
them puddles of regurgetated and refined per doc shit. slip in it and
it gets messy all over again
gypsie
Feb 16, 2013, 8:26:50 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 15, 10:37 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
yah studio, this one 'is' the resident krug. And, jeset like with
gerald, if the venom continues I'm sure will be turned in by someone
here at afgs or some readers at planet scott (if it has not already
happened). Death threats and threats to bodily harm are not cool.....
even on the internet. At least s/he has provided pix ID from the
videos.
wrote:
gerald, if the venom continues I'm sure will be turned in by someone
here at afgs or some readers at planet scott (if it has not already
happened). Death threats and threats to bodily harm are not cool.....
even on the internet. At least s/he has provided pix ID from the
videos.
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 8:37:48 AM2/16/13
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now gypsie shows up to join studly how predictable and it dont matter
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what ungodly hyour it is there always time for wollow and lapping
right studio? right gypsie? not askin ya but rather rubbing your
fucking snout in it
you can go to hell also gyp and i dont want you to repent so as to
avoid the occassion you and your bitch stud muffin. fuckin coward
and his pig
where there is regurgetated shit no matter how refined, dogs and pigs
flock to the occassion
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 8:53:18 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 8:26 am, gypsie <gypsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
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giv a fuck what you say gyp I AM that I AM
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death threats? im the one with an address floating out there. if you
come lookin for me cause you couldnt stand my right to free speach ill
wup your ass and if your a woman ill pay a girl to do it for me
im done playin and can be trusted
call attention to me yourself gyp. make the call see what happens
when they start combing through your shit here to figure out what is
goin on
loser mind fucker soul destroyer
and you call it buisness as usual pokin fun at the disillussioned like
you do
"better put a suicide watch on him, junior swallowed the whole iud"
you sick bitch with selective memory
like i said i wont go lookin for it. you come here and i have every
right knock hell out of you. your being lost to anonymity has its
limits and im just reminding you.
there is consequence if you dont believe me come lookin for me and if
ya do who are the police gonna eyeball? me? i just stayed home and
waited for the criminal element to show itself givin the occassion by
me speakin the hard truth
ill bring this forum and ministry down if you get to stupid im not
alone and there will be investigation on you all and her and this.
now suck it up and take it on the chin like a good little christian
exploring the truth.
hey were just talkin and i dont have to like you or pretend or repress
what i know to be true and if you cant take the words and leave well
enough alone then your a hypocryt and worst than doc and missy put
together cause you claim otherwise
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 8:55:10 AM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 8:26 am, gypsie <gypsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:
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im not hiding im not shady im not a fraude like you and a coward like
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you and a liar like you
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 10:39:21 AM2/16/13
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i'll tell you the truth i cant take this lord your drivin me faster
> - Show quoted text -
than befor and im starting to rattle, my god you dont even care if the
fenders go flyin off.
it hurts gypsie studio to keep this up it hurts im not a machine im a
real person and i care i say the things i do to change your mind and
to turn your hearts. i know you are mad at me and that hurts too
i hope god is done with me for now
breakdown the raven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NnQ8HCYoVQ
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 11:21:54 AM2/16/13
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> - Show quoted text -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=d3XSI_xwvss&NR=1
> - Show quoted text -
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 16, 2013, 3:19:55 PM2/16/13
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john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 4:43:33 PM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 3:19 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
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shit you are studio i dont hurt so much now care to join him in the
stink i dont think it beyond you. why should i?
no truth in you blind cripple deaf unclean, incapable of saying
anything other than what a sick fuck like yourself getting off on the
provocation says at times like these
and they laugh with you tell jokes and move on
they will wail and mourn with you in bondage for eternity change agent
of bs
circle jerk of hell and you grin
no regret here lord nop regret here and ty for the reminder of the
degenerates im casting pearls befor trampling them and me cause i
share truthfull inclination.
thanx for the glimpse lord of the evil that studio and gypsie do so i
can remember next time to press on like a machine with fenders flying
off im movin so fast around this lame ass shit now
the only truth you can speak anylonger is my name
your welcome studio
kevin
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> - Show quoted text -
no truth in you and thankyou for reminding me quikly what a piece of
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shit you are studio i dont hurt so much now care to join him in the
stink i dont think it beyond you. why should i?
no truth in you blind cripple deaf unclean, incapable of saying
anything other than what a sick fuck like yourself getting off on the
provocation says at times like these
and they laugh with you tell jokes and move on
they will wail and mourn with you in bondage for eternity change agent
of bs
circle jerk of hell and you grin
no regret here lord nop regret here and ty for the reminder of the
degenerates im casting pearls befor trampling them and me cause i
share truthfull inclination.
thanx for the glimpse lord of the evil that studio and gypsie do so i
can remember next time to press on like a machine with fenders flying
off im movin so fast around this lame ass shit now
the only truth you can speak anylonger is my name
your welcome studio
kevin
gypsie
Feb 16, 2013, 5:26:56 PM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 12:19 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
I already kept some of the linkie dinkies of Kevin's face and neow it
would be a good thing to get a repost of that address that Kevin
decided to post for dollars. (or you can always email it to me.
Anyone?
would be a good thing to get a repost of that address that Kevin
decided to post for dollars. (or you can always email it to me.
Anyone?
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 7:16:33 PM2/16/13
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still waiting for your contribution gyp (a cheap joiner :) its all
> - Show quoted text -
you know
thats why i left it out their and the things i said along with it you
dont do anybetter then the source of your dissent you dont move on so
move back there is no neutral with growth. thriving but not neutral
hypocryt so send your money here like a good lil hypocryt christian
maybe ill burn it to gods glory its what you hypocryts have been doing
for centuries burning money to the glory of god at the expense of the
oppressed the afflicted and those in debt those starving and dying of
thirst both literaly and scriptualy
better to reign in hell then serve in heaven right gyp? studly? this
gate of hell is officialy open for a long over due deposit of
garbage...now go on its right in front of you now just keep walkin
till ya fall head first straight into its abyss then you'll know your
there
say my name....bitch and get busy repostin my skiznet so i can blow
torch you again
i knew she'd show up like the cannible vamp she is..gypsy and her
midget pet, studio
now surf the net search the tube and head down the street if
neccessary to a corner church to get your fill of hogwash and horse
spit send along a phone for contribution so god can call somebody that
cares then head over to the barn and call it a night
they dont know you
you dont them
and all of you like it that way.
its commitment free christianity like gypsie and studio's version of
disposable faith in jesus christ and a styrafoam image of god made in
their likeness for vanity sake
god uses a mirror its more truthfull
they cant stand their own true reflection so they make one up
lmao
damn im good
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 7:18:16 PM2/16/13
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i echo in your soul as well like it or not
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 7:36:02 PM2/16/13
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keep on rockin in the free world
> - Show quoted text -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiCJUysIT0
. (((((((studio))))))) .
Feb 16, 2013, 8:35:12 PM2/16/13
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Kevin Krug:
studio:
You echo like a fart in a metal trash can bud!
> i echo in your soul as well like it or not
.
studio:
You echo like a fart in a metal trash can bud!
john doe
Feb 16, 2013, 10:02:35 PM2/16/13
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On Feb 16, 8:35 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
kevin
yup thats the ringing in your head cause im there to lmao
dont want to say my name like you dont want to speak the truth.
thats how you disarm an assailent with a knife of accusation and
slander class
ya wrap the mantle fabric of jesus christ around your hand and arm
real thick like and deflect the strikes with cushiony ease lol as ya
go spiritual bruce lee on the personification of the unknown even to
himself until its to late offender
yea ya wrap and tap lmao
the other hand is for givin black eys fat lips and disarmament of
advisary to my own offensive advantage. taking and using against.
response to another post placed here
onlookers? your not that popular studio i realised that along time
ago its why i feel sorry for you and why I AM so good to you
god has to see us in good faith because the real of our identities are
an offence to him. furthermore he does it for he is so inclined with
good will
um..until your glorification try to remember what an offence you are
by nature and submit it to the word of god. you'll be suprised by the
empowering experience of being transcended from the mockery of
confusion. the "glorious sadness" the bitter rage of a sociopath
caught and revealed in the moment for the thief it is stealing the
occasasion like i saw on the news some guy in a pawn shop, jo shmo
with a friendly smile gets an estimate for a loan on a watch and when
the clerk goes in the back leaving 30,000 of precious jewelry the mind
bot turn agent of destruction looks around grabs the jewlery display
and hauls ass out the store. lovers of self despisers of the truth
that we owe it to each other for better or worst
know what i saw?
you . me . us ... and it at work on us in ways we know not untested
kept asleep so if the lord jesus christ should come calling even a
righteouss response will be to late like them maidens and their lamp
oil. their desire became inclined but it was to little to late. and
were in fact found wanting when the moment was upon them.
this thief was found wanting as thiefs are always found its their
habitat for hybernation of denial and ignorence incubation of the un
exploited for later use agent of destruction in corruption until all
is eroded
and would somebody shut the broad up back there? who is she? gyp? shes
a gypsy? gypsy? what the hell kinda name is that? show her the
door if she wont be quiet her and her son..who? midget boyfriend? in
the lime green polyester jacket? he's a midget??? oh! well,
thats a loud color for a midget to where. why does he call
attention to himself like that? oh thats right look at the broad he's
with. no wonder like natasha and midget man from the rocky and
bullwinkle show lol
where was i? oh yes
I AM here..
in that if enlightened and faithfully inclined then representation of
the commandments of most high on the part of the believer takes on
gods image like moses when in his writing it becomes indistinquishable
if he is speaking of god or as god because the intimacy of the
encounter between the two in this archtype for our understanding as it
relates to revelation "and they sang the song of moses", because it
is as such...indistingquishible for there is no distinction if the
inclination is the same....two straight sticks. you can quote me if
you like lol
wrote:
yup thats the ringing in your head cause im there to lmao
dont want to say my name like you dont want to speak the truth.
thats how you disarm an assailent with a knife of accusation and
slander class
ya wrap the mantle fabric of jesus christ around your hand and arm
real thick like and deflect the strikes with cushiony ease lol as ya
go spiritual bruce lee on the personification of the unknown even to
himself until its to late offender
yea ya wrap and tap lmao
the other hand is for givin black eys fat lips and disarmament of
advisary to my own offensive advantage. taking and using against.
response to another post placed here
onlookers? your not that popular studio i realised that along time
ago its why i feel sorry for you and why I AM so good to you
god has to see us in good faith because the real of our identities are
an offence to him. furthermore he does it for he is so inclined with
good will
um..until your glorification try to remember what an offence you are
by nature and submit it to the word of god. you'll be suprised by the
empowering experience of being transcended from the mockery of
confusion. the "glorious sadness" the bitter rage of a sociopath
caught and revealed in the moment for the thief it is stealing the
occasasion like i saw on the news some guy in a pawn shop, jo shmo
with a friendly smile gets an estimate for a loan on a watch and when
the clerk goes in the back leaving 30,000 of precious jewelry the mind
bot turn agent of destruction looks around grabs the jewlery display
and hauls ass out the store. lovers of self despisers of the truth
that we owe it to each other for better or worst
know what i saw?
you . me . us ... and it at work on us in ways we know not untested
kept asleep so if the lord jesus christ should come calling even a
righteouss response will be to late like them maidens and their lamp
oil. their desire became inclined but it was to little to late. and
were in fact found wanting when the moment was upon them.
this thief was found wanting as thiefs are always found its their
habitat for hybernation of denial and ignorence incubation of the un
exploited for later use agent of destruction in corruption until all
is eroded
and would somebody shut the broad up back there? who is she? gyp? shes
a gypsy? gypsy? what the hell kinda name is that? show her the
door if she wont be quiet her and her son..who? midget boyfriend? in
the lime green polyester jacket? he's a midget??? oh! well,
thats a loud color for a midget to where. why does he call
attention to himself like that? oh thats right look at the broad he's
with. no wonder like natasha and midget man from the rocky and
bullwinkle show lol
where was i? oh yes
I AM here..
in that if enlightened and faithfully inclined then representation of
the commandments of most high on the part of the believer takes on
gods image like moses when in his writing it becomes indistinquishable
if he is speaking of god or as god because the intimacy of the
encounter between the two in this archtype for our understanding as it
relates to revelation "and they sang the song of moses", because it
is as such...indistingquishible for there is no distinction if the
inclination is the same....two straight sticks. you can quote me if
you like lol
rascri...@gmail.com
Jan 13, 2015, 11:12:10 PM1/13/15
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I am trying to locate a teaching of Dr. Gene Scott, about teachings on the Great Pyramid Decoded. The book he sent me right after he taught on this he sent me. The book author is E Raymond Capt. I still heve the book, I found these teachings awesome among other teachings he did. But I would love to have a DVD or something with the shows where he is teaching about the Pyramid. Could you please let me know. Thank you. I miss Dr. Scott alot.
Matt2442
Jan 13, 2015, 11:37:14 PM1/13/15
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On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 8:12:10 PM UTC-8, rascri...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to locate a teaching of Dr. Gene Scott, about teachings on the Great Pyramid Decoded. The book he sent me right after he taught on this he sent me. The book author is E Raymond Capt. I still heve the book, I found these teachings awesome among other teachings he did. But I would love to have a DVD or something with the shows where he is teaching about the Pyramid. Could you please let me know. Thank you. I miss Dr. Scott alot.
Matt2442:
> I am trying to locate a teaching of Dr. Gene Scott, about teachings on the Great Pyramid Decoded. The book he sent me right after he taught on this he sent me. The book author is E Raymond Capt. I still heve the book, I found these teachings awesome among other teachings he did. But I would love to have a DVD or something with the shows where he is teaching about the Pyramid. Could you please let me know. Thank you. I miss Dr. Scott alot.
Just wondering why you would bury this inquiry so deep in an old post from several years ago? I'm not sure anyone in here can help you locate what you are looking for.
rpbc
Jan 14, 2015, 12:27:36 AM1/14/15
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On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 8:12:10 PM UTC-8, rascri...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to locate a teaching of Dr. Gene Scott, about teachings on the Great Pyramid Decoded. The book he sent me right after he taught on this he sent me. The book author is E Raymond Capt. I still heve the book, I found these teachings awesome among other teachings he did. But I would love to have a DVD or something with the shows where he is teaching about the Pyramid. Could you please let me know. Thank you. I miss Dr. Scott alot.
rpbc:
He sold audio compilations of his Pyramid teaching taken from Festivals. If you live in the LA area you might consider getting a reservation for a Sunday service and inquire at the bookstore they operate. Don't know where the bookstore is anymore but I've heard her mention it. I think it's down the street a block or two where it was when Scott was around. Other than that you might try Ebay, occasionally something shows up. It might make you cry but I threw one of those cassette collections out during a housecleaning. Even if I still had it I wouldn't sell or even give to someone I didn't know because of a risk, however small, that it might be some type of set up.
Also, I think you can download the whole Gene Scott catalog from Bit Torrent. I know it used to be there not too long ago.. it was an exact copy of the offerings Scott had before Melissa took it down, complete with original tape numbers, dates and subject matter headers. You could stream or download.
Emmett
Jan 14, 2015, 1:03:48 PM1/14/15
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On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 8:12:10 PM UTC-8, rascri...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am trying to locate a teaching of Dr. Gene Scott, about teachings on the Great Pyramid Decoded. The book he sent me right after he taught on this he sent me. The book author is E Raymond Capt. I still heve the book, I found these teachings awesome among other teachings he did. But I would love to have a DVD or something with the shows where he is teaching about the Pyramid. Could you please let me know. Thank you. I miss Dr. Scott alot.
Emmett writes:
I'll save you the trouble rascri. According to Dr. jean's teaching on the pyramid inch the world should have ended several years ago. His teachings were/are all BS.
kevino...@gmail.com
Jan 14, 2015, 7:03:06 PM1/14/15
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Rascri...says docs pyramid stuff.
I know why
And you prickes forgot
A truth searcher and there is still an extra terrestrial or spiritual significance to the subject rancor raises
The truth you seek rascri is in the mystery of the word of god the testimony of Jesus Christ and all the the things john saw
I know why
And you prickes forgot
A truth searcher and there is still an extra terrestrial or spiritual significance to the subject rancor raises
The truth you seek rascri is in the mystery of the word of god the testimony of Jesus Christ and all the the things john saw
geraldkrug
Jan 15, 2015, 1:49:02 PM1/15/15
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The powers that be are offering a pay what you want suite of computer programming courses.
I looked it over.
I was shocked at the shallowness of the offering.
So today I blow the lid off.
Satan is making a move and it's the end for idiots over 40.
If you can't setup a broken computer system given to you by an employer like Google
to fix then you can't start a modern business of your own so die.
I do it all, you know that so what more do you need to learn than what's offered?
Too much.
Satan is killed if you learn but you didn't.
I looked it over.
I was shocked at the shallowness of the offering.
So today I blow the lid off.
Satan is making a move and it's the end for idiots over 40.
If you can't setup a broken computer system given to you by an employer like Google
to fix then you can't start a modern business of your own so die.
I do it all, you know that so what more do you need to learn than what's offered?
Too much.
Satan is killed if you learn but you didn't.
geraldkrug
Jan 15, 2015, 6:46:07 PM1/15/15
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The old school is dead so learn new school or stop claiming you are THE new school.
Celestias
Jan 15, 2015, 11:37:57 PM1/15/15
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On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 5:46:07 PM UTC-6, geraldkrug wrote:
> The old school is dead so learn new school or stop claiming you are THE new school.
Gerald, did you ever watch Survivors? On PBS from Britain, made in 1975, DFW didn't get it until 1991 or so. An artificial bug kills almost everyone. Some are trying to rebuild modern life, others are trying to get back to living off the land, some are trying to grab everything they can before someone else kills them. Which is the old school there?
> The old school is dead so learn new school or stop claiming you are THE new school.
geraldkrug
Jan 16, 2015, 12:00:25 AM1/16/15
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To have any school you need stable life so who cares what school at end times like that.
geraldkrug
Jan 16, 2015, 12:06:17 AM1/16/15
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I'd do what I've seen women do who just don't want this evil life anymore but who won't do suicide.
Just sit somewhere and quietly wait on the universes desision for you.
Just sit somewhere and quietly wait on the universes desision for you.
mthr...@yahoo.com
Jan 16, 2015, 12:26:45 AM1/16/15
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Lol......
And that Decicion has already been made..light years ago..
/a bumper crop this year.
geraldkrug
Jan 16, 2015, 12:45:29 AM1/16/15
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Stop the too vague stuff, pms would need an italian mother to interpret.
Light years, smite years, I mean to be gracefull in defeat for the good of the winners you hate.
Hater pms and her fear tool lawyer scums
come on down to the hood bitch as your blood runs
I done told all my homies here who to torture on sight
one slip, one rollerskate through any alley and the dreams over.
Like all good revolutions satans own in the church at that time, I own!
Light years, smite years, I mean to be gracefull in defeat for the good of the winners you hate.
Hater pms and her fear tool lawyer scums
come on down to the hood bitch as your blood runs
I done told all my homies here who to torture on sight
one slip, one rollerskate through any alley and the dreams over.
Like all good revolutions satans own in the church at that time, I own!
geraldkrug
Jan 16, 2015, 12:50:24 AM1/16/15
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Thats right pms your satan has jumped ship and gone to God just to kill you.
geraldkrug
Jan 16, 2015, 12:53:46 AM1/16/15
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Bitch you won! You won nothing!
Didn't anyone ever tell you, God and Satan loves losers and hates winners?
Didn't anyone ever tell you, God and Satan loves losers and hates winners?
celebritiesagai...@gmail.com
Jun 16, 2017, 12:16:58 AM6/16/17
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Emmett it's Suseyblue. Long time no see. I found an entire box of teachins. I'm gonna upload it for pastor.
geraldkrug
Jun 16, 2017, 5:27:24 PM6/16/17
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Don't need your crap and pms needs more to bonfire
geraldkrug
Jun 16, 2017, 8:02:39 PM6/16/17
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The Killers -
"The Man"
I know the score like the back of my hand
Them other boys, I don't give a damn
They kiss on the ring, I carry the crown
Nothing can break, nothing can break me down
Don't need no advice, I got a plan
I know the direction, the lay of the land
I know the score like the back of my hand
Them other boys, I don't give a damn
I'm the man, come round
No-no-nothing can break, no-nothing can break me down
I'm the man, come round and
No-no-nothing can break, you can't break me down
I got gas in the tank
I got money in the bank
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
I got skin in the game
I got a household name
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
When it comes to Friday, I always earn
Don't try to teach me, I got nothing to learn
'Cause baby I'm gifted
You see what I mean?
USDA certified lean
I'm the man, come round
No-no-nothing can break, you can't break me down
I got gas in the tank
I got money in the bank
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
I got skin in the game
I don't feel no pain
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
Who's the man? Who's the man?
I'm the man, I'm the man
Who's the man with the plan?
I'm the man
Who's the man? Who's the man?
I'm the man, I'm the man
Who's the man with the plan?
I'm the man
I'm the man
I'm the man
I got gas in the tank
I got money in the bank
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
I got skin in the game
Headed to the hall of fame
I got news for you baby, you're looking at the man
Right hand to God
First in command
My testimony, but I take the stand
Who's the man? Who's the man?
I'm the man, I'm the man
Who's the man with the plan?
I'm the man
Who's the man? Who's the man?
I'm the man, I'm the man
Who's the man with the plan?
I'm the man
I don't give a damn
I'm the man
Gerald - you ain't got no right hand swear in to ME
geraldkrug
Jun 16, 2017, 11:39:04 PM6/16/17
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It's Time to Demand Donald Trump's Resignation!
Look at the man's tweets – he cannot continue to serve as president
This weekend, Trump attacked London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Twitter, taking out of context a quote urging citizens not to be alarmed by increased police presence. Yin Bogu Xinhua/eyevine/Redux
By Jesse Berney
June 6, 2017
How many times in the 19-and-a-half weeks since January 20th have you needed to remind yourself to breathe, to remain calm, not to panic? Do you regularly tell yourself it can't possibly be as bad as you think? Are you worried you're overreacting?
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Are Trump's Tweets Dooming His Travel Ban?
You aren't. It's as bad as you think, and possibly worse. We've elected a president who isn't just unqualified for the job but who actively hurts the United States every day. Your palms should be clammy with fear.
I'm not just speaking to my fellow liberal snowflakes. I guarantee you the conservatives and Republicans who have been shaking their heads quietly as their president sticks his gnarled foot in his enormous mouth have started to feel the silent creep of fear crawl up the backs of their necks too.
It has gotten that bad. He is that bad. He's a toddler, but with less empathy and self-control.
Over the last few days, Trump has shown himself to be more unfit than ever before and made it clear he has no business remaining in the White House for even one additional day. Let's take a brief stroll through the Twitter feed of the current president of the United States.
Trump reacted to terrorist attacks with false bravado and genuine stupidity long before becoming president. But since January, optimists have hoped the enormity of his responsibilities would bring out his better nature. They didn't realize he doesn't have one.
Saturday's London Bridge attack in particular seems to have shorted something in the president's brain. The United Kingdom's strict gun control laws likely kept more dangerous weapons out of the hands of the terrorists, saving countless lives. (Meanwhile, in Orlando Monday, a law-abiding gun owner walked into his former workplace and murdered five people before killing himself.)
Trump then took to Twitter to attack the mayor of London – who is Muslim – taking out of context a quote urging citizens not to be alarmed by increased police presence.
The president attacking the mayor of the largest city of our closest ally in the wake of a terror attack is just as horrific as you think it is. It is unthinking, unhinged and unkind. In a moment when any remotely normal human being would be offering sympathy and help, Trump has only bile to offer.
Just like you, the lawyers in the office of the solicitor general are probably reminding themselves not to panic on a daily basis. Five separate times this week, Trump tweeted the words "TRAVEL BAN" to describe the, well, travel bans he signed directed at Muslim-majority countries.
Trump's own spokesman has insisted the executive order is "not a travel ban" because calling it a "ban" is a legal disaster for the administration, which has failed so far in defending the policy in court. Trump's rhetoric only makes his lawyers' job more difficult, but he doesn't care. Instead of doing the prudent thing and not talking about an ongoing legal case, Trump is making it virtually impossible to win, choosing to throw a tantrum in public instead.
As late as Tuesday morning, Trump's Twitter unraveling continued. The decision by Saudi Arabia and other Middle East nations to cut ties with Qatar is, to understate matters, a diplomatic situation of extreme delicacy. Instead of handling the situation with even a modicum of common sense, Trump took sides on Twitter.
Attacking established adversaries like Iran or North Korea is one thing. Qatar hosts the largest American military base in the Middle East. Jumping into the fray to attack the nation is beyond stupid; it endangers the 11,000 members of the U.S. armed forces who live there.
I'm not going to speculate on the mental health of the president. I'm not qualified, and ultimately I'm not certain it matters whether these extraordinary lapses in judgment are the result of dementia, pathological narcissism, sociopathy or just a shitty personality. What matters is what the president of the United States is saying publicly, every day, and the extraordinary damage he is doing to the nation and its people.
There is only one sensible reaction to Trump's antics: for members of Congress and influential conservatives to demand he resign.
You and I both know he's not leaving the White House willingly, or at least not anytime soon. But this is no longer anything approaching a close call. The things the president says and writes, in public, are more than enough evidence to declare him grossly unfit for a job as a tollbooth operator, let alone as the most powerful person in the world.
Many of the Republicans defending him in Congress and on TV see his tweets and know he's crossed the line. They'll keep defending him; they're too afraid of primary elections in their own districts to take a strong line against Trump.
But they should reconsider. Whatever is causing Trump to unravel, it's putting the rest of us in serious danger. The continued spectacle of the Russia investigation is only fueling his descent. Why wait for it to unfold further? The best-case scenario is dragging the nation through a prolonged impeachment ordeal. If not, we have to wait until 2021 to replace him with a responsible and decent human being – assuming he doesn't get us all killed by then.
There's a better way. Start the discussion now. Call on Trump to step down. Hell, if you're a Republican, you end up with President Mike Pence, and you probably love Mike Pence. I can't stand the guy, but at least he won't start World War III with an ill-advised 4 a.m. tweet.
It would take enormous, sustained pressure from both sides of the aisle to convince Trump to resign the presidency. It's possible it would never work. The delicate bubble of ego that Trump keeps overinflated around himself never allows errors to reach his muddled mind. Stepping down would be admitting a failure on an enormous scale, and admitting failure is the one thing Trump won't do.
But whether you're a liberal or a conservative or somewhere in between, if you care about your country – really care about the greatness of America – it's clear Trump can no longer be president. And urging him to step down now is the only option we have to get him out quickly.
Besides, think of how much more golf he'd get to play.
Whether Trump eventually will be forced out of office is as much a political question as it is a legal one. Find out how impeaching him would work.
geraldkrug
Jun 17, 2017, 8:04:55 PM6/17/17
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the tip of the “deep-state spear aimed at destroying” the Trump presidency.
Gerald - so that's his jerkoff plan, haha
Gerald - so that's his jerkoff plan, haha
H8n S8n
Jun 18, 2017, 4:22:16 PM6/18/17
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Are the tapes she will not touch when Doc's sectary C.E.S. was director?
Anything Doc's sectary had a hand in, compared to anything PMS attempts?
Would be like comparing an apple to a bicycle. Or maybe an Apple Orchard
to a bicycle.
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studio:
You got it all wrong Jeremiah Red. The only reason most of us are here is because we listened to Gene Scott until his rants and illogic
made us look at the man behind the curtain. For all of Gene's learned
abilities to teach, there were underlined motives of misuse of
his pastoral position. That includes a laundry list of physical
and spiritual abuse plus the obvious scripture twisting of OT tithing
schemes to Christians no longer under that aspect of The Law.
H8n reply:
I was starting to see BILLBOARDS (much larger than a "SIGN") when Mom Scott
stopped attending, and died. If Doc had any fingernail grip on reality? That
was removed with Mom gone. The flood gates were now open.
What sealed the deal for me was not flaunting a lifestyle of fornication.
===> HOWEVER <===
It became increasingly transparent, Doc was not attempting the smallest fraction
of preparing messages. After partying all night with the gashes
who were each paid $1500-cash just for showing up
Doc would stagger in on Sunday and just pull a message out of his head. Funny
thing? His snot-rag was never far away, mostly in his hand(wink,wink)
How bad was it?
It was soooooooooooo bad?
The situation at the ranch (with the $1500 apiece roller-gashes) was so bad?
It made the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson say:
"It must be awful hard to keep your mind on the Lord"
I don't think Doc ever got to punch Adam in the mouth. When P.hd from Stanford
got the the Bema seat? He was rewarded according to his works => MANIFOLD!
Doc was convinced reincarnation was real. I guess now we know why.
Haten Satan
Anything Doc's sectary had a hand in, compared to anything PMS attempts?
Would be like comparing an apple to a bicycle. Or maybe an Apple Orchard
to a bicycle.
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studio:
You got it all wrong Jeremiah Red. The only reason most of us are here is because we listened to Gene Scott until his rants and illogic
made us look at the man behind the curtain. For all of Gene's learned
abilities to teach, there were underlined motives of misuse of
his pastoral position. That includes a laundry list of physical
and spiritual abuse plus the obvious scripture twisting of OT tithing
schemes to Christians no longer under that aspect of The Law.
H8n reply:
I was starting to see BILLBOARDS (much larger than a "SIGN") when Mom Scott
stopped attending, and died. If Doc had any fingernail grip on reality? That
was removed with Mom gone. The flood gates were now open.
What sealed the deal for me was not flaunting a lifestyle of fornication.
===> HOWEVER <===
It became increasingly transparent, Doc was not attempting the smallest fraction
of preparing messages. After partying all night with the gashes
who were each paid $1500-cash just for showing up
Doc would stagger in on Sunday and just pull a message out of his head. Funny
thing? His snot-rag was never far away, mostly in his hand(wink,wink)
How bad was it?
It was soooooooooooo bad?
The situation at the ranch (with the $1500 apiece roller-gashes) was so bad?
It made the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson say:
"It must be awful hard to keep your mind on the Lord"
I don't think Doc ever got to punch Adam in the mouth. When P.hd from Stanford
got the the Bema seat? He was rewarded according to his works => MANIFOLD!
Doc was convinced reincarnation was real. I guess now we know why.
Haten Satan
geraldkrug
Jun 18, 2017, 5:19:27 PM6/18/17
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And all you fools kept on asskissing, that's worse than Doc actually.
geraldkrug
Jun 18, 2017, 5:21:12 PM6/18/17
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JURISPRUDENCE
THE LAW, LAWYERS, AND THE COURT.
JUNE 9 2017 5:36 PM
Trump Hands Comey a New Weapon
Having accused the former FBI director of perjury, the president now must prove it—or surrender his credibility.
By Mark Joseph Stern
Former FBI Director James Comey immitates a gesture he said he saw President Donald Trump make.
Former FBI Director James Comey imitates a gesture he said he saw Attorney General Jeff Sessions make during one of their conversations while he testifies on Thursday.*
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Donald Trump typically claims that anyone who makes him look bad is nothing more than a rotten liar. Political opponents, beauty queens, alleged victims of sexual assault: Trump dismisses them all as fibbers and fabricators, spewing malicious falsehoods to besmirch his character and hurt his agenda. It was therefore no surprise that, following James Comey’s extraordinarily damaging testimony on Thursday, Trump accused the former FBI director of issuing “many false statements and lies” to the Senate Intelligence Committee. He then repeated this allegation at a Friday press conference and offered to go under oath to contradict Comey.
Mark Joseph Stern
MARK JOSEPH STERN
Mark Joseph Stern is a writer for Slate. He covers the law and LGBTQ issues.
But not all lies are created equal—and Trump’s charge is not just a mere deflection, designed to dull the impact of Comey’s testimony before it fades away altogether. Even if he meant it that way, Trump has still accused Comey of perjury, a federal crime that undermines our legal system and carries serious penalties. He likely doesn’t realize the severity of this accusation; he routinely throws perceived enemies under the bus for the sake of political expediency. But this time, his habit will backfire. The president’s reckless barb is certain to escalate the conflict between the two men. And Trump has already given Comey the upper hand.
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Among lawyers and government officials, the charge of perjury is not taken lightly, and for good reason: An individual found guilty of the crime may be fined and imprisoned for up to five years. In 1973, the Supreme Court set a high bar for perjury: An ambiguous, evasive, or even misleading statement doesn’t necessarily qualify. That’s a key reason why, since the 1940s, only six people have been convicted of perjury in relation to congressional testimony.
But a lie—an intentional untruth made under oath—indisputably qualifies as perjury. And perjury is precisely what Trump alleged on Friday morning by asserting that Comey’s testimony was filled with “false statements and lies.” This claim built on a statement issued by Marc Kasowitz, the president’s attorney, that directly contradicted Comey’s testimony by declaring that Trump “never told Comey, ‘I need loyalty, I expect loyalty,’ in form or substance.” Comey testified that Trump said exactly that. Kasowitz and, more importantly, Trump himself are calling Comey a perjurer. Meanwhile, Comey, by rejecting Trump’s explanation of his firing, is calling the president a liar.
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Which means, of course, that somebody is lying—either the former director of the FBI or the president of the United States. Who you believe might depend on your politics, or your read of each man’s character. Comey spent his career building a reputation for independence and candor; Trump, who did quite the opposite, is now defaming him in order to subvert that image of integrity. Fortunately, this particular dispute need not be litigated exclusively in the court of public opinion. Instead, Comey has a clear advantage: He has told his side of the story under penalty of perjury, and it has been corroborated by others. What has Trump done to substantiate his version of the narrative? Smear Comey as a fabulist through his attorney and his Twitter feed.
That response isn’t just insufficient. It’s pathetic by any rational standard. If the Trump administration truly believed that Comey had committed perjury, the Justice Department would, at a minimum, consider investigating his alleged crime. (It won’t.) If Trump himself really believed Comey had slandered him before Congress, he could set the record straight by rushing to go under oath as well. On Friday, he said he would agree to rebuke Comey under oath if asked. We’ve seen Trump make and break this kind of promise in the past; for now, it suffices to say that until Trump goes under oath, Comey’s narrative will essentially stand as the official public record.
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This state of affairs leaves Trump in a bind. He wants the country to view Comey as a vengeful fabulist, but the empty accusations of perjury he launched from the safety of the White House do not seriously contradict the picture Comey painted of a petty and manipulative president. Comey put his reputation on the line to defend his actions and his former agency. He created a paper trail documenting Trump’s attempts to subvert FBI investigations and made sure the world would hear about it—effectively guaranteeing his eventual testimony before Congress. Why would he orchestrate this plan if it were built on lies that could land him in prison?
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Hot take from Breitbart: "Trump's lawyer has the tapes which is why he was so quick to refute Comey's testimony. Here is where Trump pulls the drain plug on the swamp." They absolutely crack me up! More...
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Trump’s version of the story does not make sense. His charge of perjury is laughable. He is losing his grasp on the narrative, unintentionally ceding it to Comey. Thursday’s testimony may not have been damaging enough to be the definite end for Trump. But the president’s inability to mount a plausible defense to Comey’s astonishing claims is incredibly damning. Trump is in trouble. And, for perhaps the first time in his life, disgorging more lies won’t help him deflect the blame.
Gerald - dead navy sailors below jerkoffs radar
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