New Neon Sign Dedicated to the VOF's at LAUC
Chaz Lambrusco
Chaz Lambrusco
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> Maybe I should do another one as Jean's Slaves
Let's make sure there is no mis-understanding about my joke picture.
The VOF's are enslaved by Pastor Melissa Scott (PMS) and by the ghost of
Gene Scott.
I think the prayers of most of us at AFGS is that the VOF's will break
their bonds of slavery to PMS and find the true freedom of faith in Christ.
John 8:31-36
31Jesus told the people who had faith in him, "If you keep on obeying
what I have said, you truly are my disciples. 32You will know the truth,
and the truth will set you free."
33They answered, "We are Abraham's children! We have never been
anyone's slaves. How can you say we will be set free?"
34Jesus replied:
I tell you for certain that anyone who sins is a slave of sin! 35And
slaves don't stay in the family forever, though the Son will always
remain in the family. 36If the Son gives you freedom, you are free!
H8N S8N
Slaves
PMS
Slaves
Blind
Slaves
Jesus
Freed
Slaves
Catheter
Slaves
H8N S8N
GIANT of a man ! So to speak
gmartinz
This should sweep across the Internet.
Garadawg S
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Garadawg S
I'm not going to waste my time debating your erroneous theology here. Even
the biggest dummy can see you've taken scripture out of context and
misapplied it to the graphic shown.
Praise Jesus! Jesus alone! That's the only thing that counts.
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Garadawg S
    Â
Chaz Lambrusco
verse where Jesus says he wants you to be His slave?
emptycoffers
Reggie carries the biggest shackle.
He rattles it, walks circles around
Mrs. Scott and thinks he is free.
emptycoffers
rearranging his spots.
emptycoffers
scales fall from them. Labels and
slogans matter not. The work of
Jesus does.
Kagegammel
Garadawg S wrote:
> Chaz,
> I'm not going to waste my time debating your erroneous theology here. Even
> the biggest dummy can see you've taken scripture out of context and
> misapplied it to the graphic shown.
> Praise Jesus! Jesus alone! That's the only thing that counts.
>
Surely you jest.
PhilosopherGuy
anyone at LAUC provide us a verse
in which Jesus says he wants you to
a slave of your pastor. For that matter,
of any man or woman?
Please do not disrespect the Lord
by name calling, distracting or
asking a train of other questions.
Respond directly to the question
asked. If you don't, it can be
presumed that you have no
intelligent sincere response
or you acquiesce to the
implication that there proabably
is none.
matt2442
Garadawg S wrote:
> jslavesPraise Jesus!
matt2442:
To be a bondservant (doulos) of Jesus is a great thing. A bondservant
is a willing servant, and not a slave. Neither translates into being a
slave to a pastor or pastoress.
Chaz Lambrusco
I've got a verse in mind that I think they will use, but I don't want
to tip my hand.
PhilosopherGuy
and reading here anyway, Garadawg.
Why not respond in a forthright
manner while you're at it?
You and udEO are making the fruits
of Gene Scott's teaching look even
worse by the infantile hypocrisy
you display to the public internet
on this NG.
Mrs. Scott had reasons for telling
you not to log on here. You are
making her doctrine and policy
problems worse. You are causing
more unflattering facts to come
to the public light.
PhilosopherGuy
distinction. It's an exmaple of the
nuance that the domatas Scott twist
and misapply to their own benefit.
The often overstate God's word
then apply it to themselves in
place of Jesus. Subtle redirection
with a HUGE implication in meaning.
Garadawg S
Pastor Scott. We rejoice in slavery to Christ as Paul proclaimed. Doulos is
not a bad word. We have great respect for our Pastor. She has a huge
responsibility and we help her as we can according to God's will.
Empty, are you so brainwashed by this AFGS cult that you no long know the
difference between lies and truth. right and wrong, black and white? We are
praying for your head to get straight.
"emptycoffers" <church...@cox.com> wrote in message
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matt2442
Garadawg S wrote:
> Empty, are you so brainwashed by this AFGS cult that you no long know the
> difference between lies and truth. right and wrong, black and white? We are
> praying for your head to get straight.
matt2442:
Oh WE are the cult now? Here is another example of a scottie inverting
reality.
Posted in this newgroup's archives, is the definition of a cult, and
several ways of determining if you are in one. When compared to those
definitions, Gene Scott's "church" pretty well fit the description.
What are the characteristics of a cult, and how can you show AFGS to be
a "cult", aside from simply calling it one?
matt2442
matt2442 continues:
Besides that, you insult emptycoffers intelligence by claiming that
he/she is brainwashed by AFGS, as if he/she needed anything but his/her
powers of observation, and inside knowledge from having been there, to
know what the Scott's church is. This tactic isn't going to get you
anywhere.
Garadawg S
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Garadawg S
G1401
δοTλος
doulos
doo'-los
From G1210; a slave (literally or figuratively, involuntarily or
voluntarily;
frequently therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or
subserviency):-bond (-
man), servant.
This is for starters. I hope your News reader can handle the Greek alphabet.
Otherwise get out you Greek Bible.
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Chaz Lambrusco
question: Where in the Bible does Jesus want you to be his slave?
If AFGS is a cult, then AFGS is in a world of hurt. We need a leader
to take over AFGS and tell us what to think. AFGS needs a leader to
tell us what God thinks. Any volunteers?
Garadawg S
you're the dude who claims to go to the studio as a VOF under false
pretenses and spy on the others so you can come here and give your inside
view. With such hypocrisy no one should believe anything you say. Are you
lying as a VOF or are you lying here. *BOTH*
Not just speaking falsehood but living falsehood.
Shame! Shame! Shame!
Don't bother praying for the VOFs.
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monica1rain
Noza weeza purrasin da lowered
weeza workin' fur free cuz we
looooooove da domata queen!
monica1rain
O granden mighty mazza can ya spare a
poor simple know nuthin'a wee teeny
undazerved moment uvvyer 'portant
time? Uh, wood ya show a poor blind
woman da verse wot sez da lowered
wants us ta be doulos ta mizzy Malizzy
Scottie anna Mazza Geno Scottie?
Wood ya Pleeeze?
monica1rain
Mizzy Scott oh yeah! Cheese Elijahette!
Neow iffin ya wanna getta heaven, listen up,
only I Moni getta talk nobody else. Ya gotta
shuttup anna keepa marchin' for Moni, uh
mean Moni standin' inna place a God, uh
heeza bizzy anna I'm spose ta tellim whoze
been knotty an nice!
Neow, Ima gonna needa cuppla manshuns
withha buncha mexycans anna duzzen
horses. I wanna tricked out van truck ta put
muh face onna tv ta tell muh fanz arounda
world ta send me munny! Anna woman ta
drive me 'round annagree with me cuz
Ima genie us ya know!
Den Ima gonna need close anna cuppla
churchez here an' there anna fifteen
lawyerz, ten coooliez ta gimme water,
five foney corp shellz anna shitloada
air time contract special dealz, six
bank accounts witha four uv em
offshore!
OK, neow no CPAz, anna no church
memberz er real pastorz.
Lemmie sea, oh anna twenny girlygirl
boyz ta kiss muh arse, eighteen
treazure collectionz anna couple
prizzonz an' hospitalz ta droppin on
and look like Iva got da lowered!
Yeah, yo, an good newz, ya get allah
me fer this loot and only a dollara
year in cum! Yeah, well, ahem thaten
all muh queenie expenses uh can
runnup!
Ima luvvun muh new job!
Neow bow down anna start lickin' muh
boots y'all! Purraize da lowered!
How'muh doin' so far??????
monica1rain
Neow, I getta sing anna y'all gotta
clappen whistle an' cheer likkitza
jesus onna way, K?
Ya, uh, singin' any key uh wanna
or inna no key cuzza can!
rpbc
rpbc wrote: There have been a few volunteers, but the hoped for followers
keep straying. Too many have been too far down that road before to start
the trip again. Lessons learned from Scott, and one of the most valuable
at that.
rpbc
rpbc: Monica, when it gets around to casting for the movie, you got the
part.
Jon Volkoff
wrote:
I think I'll vote for Moni as our honorary domatress/cult leader.
My check is in the mail.
JV
rpbc
you're the dude who claims to go to the studio as a VOF under false
pretenses and spy on the others so you can come here and give your inside
view. With such hypocrisy no one should believe anything you say. Are you
lying as a VOF or are you lying here. *BOTH*
Not just speaking falsehood but living falsehood.
Shame! Shame! Shame!
Don't bother praying for the VOFs.
rpbc wrote: I can understand your consternation with Empty for attending
festival then posting inside information here. But, aside from the
arguably false pretenses under which he attends festival, what does that
have to do with him lying. Maybe nobody at planet scott has asked him if
he posts here. Maybe he is following a higher conscience about it. If he
is lying here, point out where he is lying... that should be an easy way to
discredit him. This is an open forum. Go for it.
As a long time participant around planet scott, what he says rings
absolutely true, not only with my past, personal experience in the
environment, but what is projected by Melissa's intonation of speech and
body language, as well as the look on the vof faces when the camera pans
the room... as well as their downturned clapping and cheers, as though
they are carrying a heavy burden over their enthusiasm.
Instead of making a conditional statement, why don't you demonstrate fruit
of the falsehood you claim is Emptycoffers. We are watching too, many of
us have been there, some for years. Talk to us.... use the power of words
and demonstrate the falsehoods.
H8N S8N
Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will require all
voices of faith shall go out and gather a certain rate every day,
that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
They will be Jesus Slaves, and Mean Jean will be their God.
Selah
(from Amplified / P. S. version)
(H8N (well..., you know) )
monica1rain
Chaz Lambrusco
W_Bane
right. What was he saying? A wicked Stepmother? The Unholy in the place
of the Holy? Is there a Snow-White or Prince Charming in the dungeon
somewhere?
emptycoffers
Mr. chief hippocrite living your
lies. Why don't you just come out
of the closet?
To flip on the lights it's
necessary to sit in the darkest
corners. I'm there in faith.
emptycoffers
You worship Dr. Scott and Mrs. Scott.
AFGS pegged your desperation for respect.
Shame on you, blasphemous deviant wolf
cloaked in do good schools and
perverted Christianity. You make a
trojan horse look perfected.
Praying for people here? That's like
the back handed complimentary messages.
Lately the praying would make Dr. Scott
come unglued. That phoney syrup Christian
crap and you know it.
No one trusts you anymore or likes you.
Emmett
Emmett writes:
When and where is the first service and how much
percentage of my income will be required?????
Emmett
emptycoffers wrote:
Emmett writes:
Hey, I like Reggie. He is doin a good job.
Chaz Lambrusco
Obrien
Empty,
you're the dude who claims to go to the studio as a VOF under false
pretenses and spy on the others so you can come here and give your inside
view. With such hypocrisy no one should believe anything you say. Are you
lying as a VOF or are you lying here. *BOTH*
Not just speaking falsehood but living falsehood.
Shame! Shame! Shame!
Don't bother praying for the VOFs.
Obrien wrote:
If PMS would treat he minions better, she wouldn't have these problems.
Her minions need to be coddled.
Obrien
Obrien wrote:
Most everyone knows that Reginald is a fag anyway. I wonder if those
Pan-American boys he employs are paying taxes and have the legal right to
be here and work in this country?
Obrien
Obrien wrote:
Reginald thinks that he is second in command at Camp PMS, and will one day
take over. He is gravely mistaken. This thing ends with PMS, and there
will be no successor to her. She is liquidating all assets and will make
off with all the money so as to generate a passive investment income to
last her the rest of her life. 2 Oak Knoll and LAUC will be the next
large assets to be sold under the guise of putting the money into T.V.
airtime and covering expenses.
WeatherMan
Most everyone knows that Reginald is a fag anyway. I wonder if those
Pan-American boys he employs are paying taxes and have the legal right to
be here and work in this country?
Dude did you ever wonder that Gene used to get rid of certain types of
men around the place?
What I mean is that over the years of watching Gene it seemed that most
of the men that worked for him were of a kind. No offence intended but I
don’t think I could have ever fit in there.
Obrien
Shame on you, Empty! Put away lying. You know that there is no slavery to
Pastor Scott. We rejoice in slavery to Christ as Paul proclaimed. Doulos
is
not a bad word. We have great respect for our Pastor. She has a huge
responsibility and we help her as we can according to God's will.
Empty, are you so brainwashed by this AFGS cult that you no long know the
difference between lies and truth. right and wrong, black and white? We
are
praying for your head to get straight.
Obrien wrote:
And what "Free Will" can a Scottobite exercise without the threat of being
ostracized and damned for all time by PMS? Can a Scottobite just pack-up
and leave without this happening?
How is it that drummer Steve was able to NOT contribute hardly any money,
falling short compared to the average Scottobite giving records, and yet
he still remains in favor with PMS? Why can't the rest of the Scottobites
do like he did and just call in messages of faith jamming up the phone
lines? It would be a lot cheaper, and the Scottobites could avoid
bankruptcy and tax liens, and prison, unlike drummer Steve.
How disheartening it must be for a maximum tithing Scottobite, to go
without many things due to giving money and free labor to PMS, only to see
drummer Steve prance around with his "Holier than thou" attitude, and he
doesn't give hardly any money to PMS yet he's still broke, but in her
favor.
Obrien
Most everyone knows that Reginald is a fag anyway. I wonder if those
Pan-American boys he employs are paying taxes and have the legal right to
be here and work in this country?
WeatherMan wrote:
Dude did you ever wonder that Gene used to get rid of certain types of
men around the place?
What I mean is that over the years of watching Gene it seemed that most
of the men that worked for him were of a kind. No offence intended but I
don’t think I could have ever fit in there.
Obrien wrote:
For the most part, Dawkter Scowt did not want free thinkers in his camp,
vis a vis--PMS. He preferred subservient mindless drones with a checkered
past. This was his justification for mandatory background investigations
of all his staff and some minions.
WeatherMan
Obrien
looking for loyal maximum tithing minions. He believed that these types
of individuals would best suit his needs. This is the underlying meaning
behind his search for "The Uncommon Man/Woman."
Obrien
very thorough background check and was spied on. He never revealed all
that he knew about her past to her. He just had bad luck in choosing the
wrong women in his life.
Obrien
investigation file, containing all the dirt about PMS, from Ed Masry as an
insurance policy.
gypsi...@gmail.com
RE: To flip on the lights it's necessary to sit in the darkest corners.
I'm there in faith.
gypsie: YUP, YUP and another YUP!!
Garadawg S
pm pst would that convince you I am not Reggie? I thought it was very
entertaining that you had us confused. But when I see the abundance of hate
flaming at him it's not entertaining anymore. I wish you'd layoff. What in
the world has he done to harm you? Oh, you just have general hate for
anybody associated with Doc. I see.
Ok here I am. Give me my own fair share. It just shows the true character of
you guys.
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Emmett
Garadawg S wrote:
> OK. If I started posting a dozen messages on Sunday between 11am pst and 1
> pm pst would that convince you I am not Reggie? I thought it was very
> entertaining that you had us confused. But when I see the abundance of hate
> flaming at him it's not entertaining anymore. I wish you'd layoff. What in
> the world has he done to harm you? Oh, you just have general hate for
> anybody associated with Doc. I see.
Emmett writes:
I've been trying to tell these guys/girls to lay off Reggie. He is doing
a good job and will take this ministry on ward and up ward to places
Dr. jean never dreamed of goin. Praise be to Reggie.
>
> Ok here I am. Give me my own fair share. It just shows the true character of
> you guys.
Emmett writes:
I'm with you all the way garadawg. Just because Reggie is a homosexual
doesn't mean he can't do a good job for Melissa and (our dear departed
pastor) Dr. jean. It's about time we had someone like you to stand for
truth, justice and the teachins of Dr. jean. Deep down Garadawg everyone
here respects you and loves you for your blind faith in Dr. jean and
his ministry. You go girl, you go.
Garadawg S
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PhilosopherGuy
that convince you I am not Reggie? "
> No not that your absence during rehearsal and
live broadcast times has been well documented.
You could have someone use your handle and
post drafted comments.
What is the big deal when you're already on
Melissa's TV program and into her ministry for
life, right or wrong, honest or dishonest,
false teacher or not.
PhilosopherGuy
your closest Kings Houses around you don't respect
or trust you. They seem to resent your stepping up
your authority, your pretense of looking after their
souls and what they report is your turn coat nature.
That would seem to pose a higher risk to you than
what a bunch of ex-scotties and enemies talk about.
Worthless hateful talk shouldn't bother you.
matt2442
Garadawg S wrote:
> OK. If I started posting a dozen messages on Sunday between 11am pst and 1
> pm pst would that convince you I am not Reggie? I thought it was very
> entertaining that you had us confused. But when I see the abundance of hate
> flaming at him it's not entertaining anymore. I wish you'd layoff. What in
> the world has he done to harm you? Oh, you just have general hate for
> anybody associated with Doc. I see.
>
> Ok here I am. Give me my own fair share. It just shows the true character of
> you guys.
matt2442:
I thought udEO was Reggie? Or perhaps udEO used to post as USMC5 (seems
more likely). I don't really know Reggie personally, and I don't hate
him. I've had very few personal dealings with him, and they were a long
time ago.
Garadawg S
Cathedral when I am able to attend but that's only ocassionally. There's a
paranoia here that you all fear any new person is Reggie. What a mystique
the man has! What fame! He's got to be some awesome dude! Reminiscent of
the various sightings of Elvis around the world! :)
BTW If you check some recent posts of udEO you will see he signed his real
name. But that's not me.
And thank you, Matt, for a little bit of decency. Lacking in some other
people in this thread.
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Emmett
Garadawg S wrote:
> You're full of sh*t.
Emmett writes:
I am not!!!!
Emmett
Oh ya!!!!
emptycoffers wrote:
> A server administrator at work pinned down
> ringer udEO's posts as from IP's and addresses
> of Reginald Keith and his locations.
>
> The questions are to identify moles and
> learn evidence to deflect the negative comments here.
> Melissa has given him the mission of finding the
> moles. This fits with Reggie's new found self assumed
> role trying to fill Dr. Scott's shoes. It's disgusting those
> in the 300 who can't make ends meet like the wealthy
> golden boy who gives them lectures on how to
> secure their rewards in heaven. He's full of advice
> trying to convince him he's looking after his souls
> when some say he's protecting his own position.
Obrien
> Tsk, tsk, Reginald. Shame on you
> Mr. chief hippocrite living your
> lies. Why don't you just come out
> of the closet?
>
> To flip on the lights it's
> necessary to sit in the darkest
> corners. I'm there in faith.
>
> Obrien wrote:
> Most everyone knows that Reginald is a fag anyway. I wonder if those
> Pan-American boys he employs are paying taxes and have the legal right
to
> be here and work in this country?
Garadawg wrote:
OK. If I started posting a dozen messages on Sunday between 11am pst and 1
pm pst would that convince you I am not Reggie? I thought it was very
entertaining that you had us confused. But when I see the abundance of
hate
flaming at him it's not entertaining anymore. I wish you'd layoff. What
in
the world has he done to harm you? Oh, you just have general hate for
anybody associated with Doc. I see.
Ok here I am. Give me my own fair share. It just shows the true character
of
you guys.
Obrien wrote:
Garadawg, maybe you've already been given your own fair share. You
indicated awhile back that you were searching for the truth. Seems to me
that you don't like the truth about Reginald and PMS.
It was recounted to me that PMS's minions don't like it when Reginald
moves in a little too close to them. They described his breath as
smelling like he's been eatin' some guy Greek style, not to mention the
spittle.
Please don't confuse, "hate" with the "truth." I see no hate here coming
from our camp, other than the times PMS called us sh*t, dregs, cursed us
with hot coals, had her lawyer issue threats from The Pulpit, and PMS
damned us all to He!!. PMS must remember that she is being held to a
higher standard of accountability.
I'll just flat out ask you. Garadawg are you Reginald?
emptycoffers
Mrs. Scott's been pushing for more VOFs
to cover the new channel hours. If you love
her and the joy she brings get the funk in
every night funktard. The new VOFS don't
give a sh*t.
Lies beget lies.
I don't know Reggie either. The guy who
shows up is a caricature of a man.
emptycoffers
lords undershepherd domain like a Reg,
grimaces, butt f*cks and ass kisses
disciplines in righteous indignation
and tattles like a Reg,,>
It's a Reggie. It could be a Dean
without the Dr. Scott undershepherd
countenance. It could be Barbara
however she doesn't b.f.. She just
bitches.
Nope it's a Reg folks.
Chaz Lambrusco
How much could that cost, $100 a day? And don't tell me the Indians
would be any less informed about things at LAUC than the average VOF.
Chaz Lambrusco
10:30 AM
emptycoffers
There are computers available.
Chaz Lambrusco
> He's on break 10 till 10:40 A.M.. before cathedral.
> There are computers available.
>
Plus, wouldn't PMS have AFGS blocked on all her computers at LAUC?
emptycoffers
archives. Chaz, cut and paste post it please.
Here's an archives Garadawg post for you
about knowing Peg.
Occasional watcher not in L.A.? Sure Reggie.
" I knew Peg very well and she doesn't deserve
the treatment she is going to get here.
It's a privacy issue."
studio
about being a docamentalist.
Who knows if these guys are actually Reggie.
But it's the same spirit fer sures.
damnthetorpedos
What do his IP addresses for his Reginald
Keith, illibros and Andy O's Limousine web
sites come back? You can google them.
damnthetorpedos
If they're in India she can't have her goons
get in their faces and blow torch them .
damnthetorpedos
8/20 post from Garadawg.
I've noticed some of my posts get time stamped
several hours later than when I made them
sometimes, even over to the next date!
I figured my computer clock or internet service
clock was off or didn't synchronize with
talkabout's. But I'm not technically smart.
Emmett
damnthetorpedos wrote:
> Chaz, where do you see that? I can't locate a
> 8/20 post from Garadawg.
Emmett writes:
On 8-20 he posted 7:23 am, 9:49 am, 10;27 am.
gypsi...@gmail.com
RE: Who knows if these guys are actually Reggie. But it's the same
spirit fer sures.
gypsie: Righto! It really doesn't matter which one of the scottbots it
really is, same spirit and same brain drain. They all post alike.
Chaz Lambrusco
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.gene-scott/browse_frm/thread/8389f290df02e7ca/a4f554c23e80dec7?lnk=gst&q=pyramid&rnum=1#a4f554c23e80dec7
studio
It just goes to prove the cult mentality.
The Scottford Wives.
Docamentalism.
World Wide Church of Gene.
LAUC (Lame Ass UHF Channel).
Garadawg S
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> rpbc wrote: I can understand your consternation with Empty for attending
> festival then posting inside information here. But, aside from the
> arguably false pretenses under which he attends festival, what does that
> have to do with him lying. Maybe nobody at planet scott has asked him if
> he posts here. Maybe he is following a higher conscience about it. If he
> is lying here, point out where he is lying... that should be an easy way
> to
> discredit him. This is an open forum. Go for it.
He is either lying to AFGS and is not a current VOF
or
He is lying as a VOF in that a VOF *must* be a tither.
Do you really think Empty is a tither????? Walking into the studio for him
is a lie.
They do not regularly check tithing records. They take it on trust. They
take it as action before God. What higher power do you think his conscience
is concerned with. I must say, rpbc, it looks like the above quoted from
your message is rationalization on your part trying to say that lying is not
always lying. And I find that interesting because AFGSers like to accuse
LAUC members of exactly that.
And they don't stand at the door asking, "Do you post to AFGS?" before they
let you in the door. Empty is really zoned out about what he is telling you
and you shouldn't believe half of it. He has this great need to feel
important so he is playing you. But then again what do I care. It makes for
interesting conversation.
rpbc
attending
> festival then posting inside information here. But, aside from the
> arguably false pretenses under which he attends festival, what does
that
> have to do with him lying. Maybe nobody at planet scott has asked him
if
> he posts here. Maybe he is following a higher conscience about it. If
he
> is lying here, point out where he is lying... that should be an easy
way
> to
> discredit him. This is an open forum. Go for it.
Garadawg wrote:
He is either lying to AFGS and is not a current VOF
or
He is lying as a VOF in that a VOF *must* be a tither.
Do you really think Empty is a tither????? Walking into the studio for
him
is a lie.
They do not regularly check tithing records. They take it on trust. They
take it as action before God. What higher power do you think his
conscience
is concerned with. I must say, rpbc, it looks like the above quoted from
your message is rationalization on your part trying to say that lying is
not
always lying. And I find that interesting because AFGSers like to accuse
LAUC members of exactly that.
And they don't stand at the door asking, "Do you post to AFGS?" before
they
let you in the door. Empty is really zoned out about what he is telling
you
and you shouldn't believe half of it. He has this great need to feel
important so he is playing you. But then again what do I care. It makes
for
interesting conversation.
rpbc wrote: He could be a current vof and a tither. You ask a question
as to what I think, then you answer it. To tell the truth, I don't know
if he tithes, and neither do you. If they don't check, that is their
problem. On the subject of what I think about... I think they don't check
because there probably aren't enough vof that would pass the examination,
and no way to verify their income, which would validate an amount as a
tith.
That's not what I meant though about discrediting him against what he
posts. It sounds like inside information to me, for the reasons I said....
years of being in the environment, and knowing some of the people. I
meant, address what he posts and show where it is inaccurate... or, as you
put it, a lie. If he is 'really zoned out' and we 'shouldn't believe half
of it'... it should be easy to demonstrate what he is zoned out about, and
identify the half we shouldn't believe. So far all you've done is say he
is 'zoned out' and that we 'shouldn't believe half of it'. Zero in on
it... what are you talking about that makes him zoned out? What are you
talking about that is the half we shouldn't believe that he is telling us?
Maybe you've got something to say that will demonstrate point by point
that emptycoffers is lying about the situation at LAUC and festival. So
far, all you've done is talk about emptycoffers (including dismiss him,
claiming he speaks from a need to be important, then suggest my ignorance,
or stupidity, as being played) but have not addressed anything he has said
about the situation at LAUC, and festival.
By following a higher conscience, I don't mean what they (authorities at
LAUC concerning tithing rule for vof) consider an action before God... I
mean what emptycoffers might consider to be an action before God. Like he
said, hiding in the darkest of places to shine a light. You might not agree
with that, but you see what is meant...
matt2442
Garadawg S wrote:
>
> He is either lying to AFGS and is not a current VOF
>
> or
>
> He is lying as a VOF in that a VOF *must* be a tither.
>
> Do you really think Empty is a tither????? Walking into the studio for him
> is a lie.
>
> They do not regularly check tithing records. They take it on trust. They
> take it as action before God. What higher power do you think his conscience
> is concerned with. I must say, rpbc, it looks like the above quoted from
> your message is rationalization on your part trying to say that lying is not
> always lying. And I find that interesting because AFGSers like to accuse
> LAUC members of exactly that.
>
> And they don't stand at the door asking, "Do you post to AFGS?" before they
> let you in the door. Empty is really zoned out about what he is telling you
> and you shouldn't believe half of it. He has this great need to feel
> important so he is playing you. But then again what do I care. It makes for
> interesting conversation.
matt2442:
You must be close enough to the inside to know for sure whether giving
records are checked or not. Doc used to make that a requirement, at
least at one time he did. Perhaps things are more lax than they were
previously? Doc said he didn't want anyone representing his ministry,
and the things he taught, if they didn't live accordingly, namely, in
being King's Houses at the very least, or better yet tithers. Does
anyone else from way back remember if tithing was a requirement to be a
VOF?
Papillon
Once upon a time giving wasn't even required to be a King's House. The
only requirement was to watch at least two nights a week. This was
when Doc was live virtually every night and still had the 24/7
television stations and FM.
rpbc
You must be close enough to the inside to know for sure whether giving
records are checked or not. Doc used to make that a requirement, at
least at one time he did. Perhaps things are more lax than they were
previously? Doc said he didn't want anyone representing his ministry,
and the things he taught, if they didn't live accordingly, namely, in
being King's Houses at the very least, or better yet tithers. Does
anyone else from way back remember if tithing was a requirement to be a
VOF?
rpbc wrote: It evolved to the point where you were not supposed to be in
the studio as a vof unless you were a tither. I don't remember the date
that became a requirement, but I remember the night he bellowed it.
rpbc
House. The
only requirement was to watch at least two nights a week. This was
when Doc was live virtually every night and still had the 24/7
television stations and FM.
rpbc wrote: That is the way I remember it too. When a new King's House
signed up, it was asked if they would send a picture, a group picture if a
family, for the King's House family, and loosly explained that a King's
House watched at least one night a week, and supported in some way. This
was still happening as of early 1982. All that was asked to be a King's
House was an identification with what Dr. Scott was teaching, and doing...
largely, at that time, in his legal battles with the government and it's
agencies, and his effort to pay off families that had invested money in
church activities, a debt apparently allowed by the previous pastor, Ray
Shock (sp). I used to have the details memorized from hearing them so
many times, but now they are vague.
H8N S8N
I answered phones somewhere between 1990 - 2000. It was made
VERY CLEAR ! All VOF's had to be tithers. Longtime readers of
my posts may remember H8n posting, repetedly
"I was never raped in my giving" In 2 decades on Planet Scott:
1. I NEVER bought a painting
2. I NEVER did a (x212) Tabernacle offering.
3. I NEVER was refused as a VOF for a "non existent"
Tithing record.
Emmett posted (Mean Jean taught) "Give in secret"
Although, I seem to remember "1" time, everyone had to be
Re-Cleared. MY giving record did NOT exist. NEVER
prevented me from being cleared as VOF. Brad, LaHua(sp),
Cheryl (where's Cheryl?), another I cannot remember.
10:30AM < 11:00AM Not yet a post, post 11:AM
H8n S8n
damnthetorpedos
who don't work but are supported by the hard word
of their family and friends, past and present, have
next to nothing to tithe on. They don't give much
if any, money. but they donate time.
It's basically pulling a Melissa. She doesn't have
much income and has the church support her.
That way she doesn't have income taxes.
See how you can get around God's old laws, to
the extent you believe in them. Melissa and
Steve, and those who defer their expenses onto
others, do an end run around the government
and around God.
That won't make either satisfied.
H8N S8N
On donating my time ? I started out a tight-end, and ended up a
wide-reciever. I know that because my face was instantly
recognized, it covered my no-giving record.
H8N
studio
How do you know if someone checks or doesn't check for tithe records?
You sound guilty of not tithing?
Guilty of being on staff?
Guilty of being spotted as a docamentalist?
That's probably why you know they don't check.
Because if they did, they wouldn't let your
lying ass in the door.
Aren't you afraid of being turned away at
Heaven's Gate because of your self preservation?
Free yourself from the bondage of Planet Scott.
They discredit our freedom in Christ Jesus.
It's a cult........get over it!
studio
Stealth was my M.O.
Garadawg S
"matt2442" <matt...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> matt2442:
> You must be close enough to the inside to know for sure whether giving
> records are checked or not. Doc used to make that a requirement, at
> least at one time he did. Perhaps things are more lax than they were
> previously? Doc said he didn't want anyone representing his ministry,
> and the things he taught, if they didn't live accordingly, namely, in
> being King's Houses at the very least, or better yet tithers. Does
> anyone else from way back remember if tithing was a requirement to be a
> VOF?
>
to be a tither and still is. And I'm sure it is checked. But what I meant
was every time I show up to be a VoF it isn't looked up. I don't know how
often it is checked. And the giving records are highly confidential and only
a very few are trusted to see them. Empty's record could have been checked a
long time ago when it was good and who knows when it will be checked again.
I would guess that if I quit giving over a period of time it would
eventually be noticed as a regular computer/bookkeeping function. IMHO
Garadawg S
inaccuracies, partial truths and outright falsehoods to prove my point. But
to do that would be a full time job and I have a life to live more important
than this NG. I've considered doing that many times.
But on the other hand, why should I help you (AFGS) and give you information
to use in your (AFGS) malicious vengeance and hate. It can be quite
entertaining to watch you create these fanatasy tales (like the stolen
painting fairy tale) so that you look just plain stupid. I'm sure you've
seen how an assumption about facts when repeated here often enough can be
eventually taken as true when they are in fact false.
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Garadawg S
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damnthetorpedos
between someone else's at 2:57 and another
at 2:59, with yours haveing a time of 10:30 am.
Very clever.
This post hasn't been here all day until it showed
about fifteen minutes ago.
More deceit.
matt2442
Garadawg S wrote:
It can be quite entertaining to watch you create these fanatasy tales
(like the stolen
painting fairy tale) so that you look just plain stupid.
matt2442:
Oh PLEASE elaborate on this one. What part of the painting theft
incident is a fairy tale? I'd like to know. Really.
damnthetorpedos
without you and the other Reggie faces to see
swinging into Scott defense action.
What took so long after church? Did you have
more blow torching and a prayer circle?
damnthetorpedos
point.
You made three posts in a row . . . 3:14 pm,
3:11 pm and 10:30 am. Good trick.
Papillon
Garadawg S wrote:
> You are confused. We are talking about the requirement to be a VOF not a KH.
>
> >"Papillon" <papillo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > only requirement was to watch at least two nights a week. This was
> > when Doc was live virtually every night and still had the 24/7
> > television stations and FM.
> >
Not confused at all. Just throwing some historical info in to the mix
for the sake of conversation and to illustrate how Doc's "ministry"
changed over the years.
tipoponini
tipoponini
Melissa + Gene= greed,deceit,lust,adultry, egomania, plagerism,add your
own.
I almost fell off my perch last Festival when she said "a picture is worth
a thousand words".
I was not thinking about the picture book she was showing, but I agreed
with her.
H8N S8N
studio wrote: I was the opposite H8N.
Stealth was my M.O.
H8n reply ? Yep ! I do not remember you, HOWEVER,
I do remember when the horn appeared high above the stage