*** ALERT! Dolores Press Inc No Longer Calif Corporation ! ***

[Chaz Lambrusco]

PMS keeps saying that Dolores Press is not her. So, I looked it up
on the California Secretary of State Site.

SUSPENDED!

Entity Name: DOLORES PRESS
Entity Number: C0315389
Date Filed: 02/01/1956
Status: SUSPENDED <----------------
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Entity Address: 1501 S GLENDALE AVENUE
Entity City, State, Zip: GLENDALE CA 91205
Agent for Service of Process: PATRICIA GLASER
Agent Address: 10250 CONSTELLATION AVENUE
Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 91205

So, where is Dolores Press incorporated? Is it a Non-profit now?

[rpbc]

rpbc:
What is meant under status by the term suspended? Is that the result of legal action taken against them by some regulatory agency or an action initiated by Dolores Press?

[Gypsie]

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mebbe this is why she keeps the sales so tightly controlled as in no
outside sales,no sales tax paid, et al?

[happy123]

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Hi Gypsie and rpbc,

Please see the link posted below.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/cbs-field-status-definitions.htm

Suspended or Forfeited: The business entity's powers, rights and
privileges were suspended or forfeited in California 1) by the
Franchise Tax Board for failure to file a return and/or failure to pay
taxes, penalties, or interest; and/or 2) by the Secretary of State for
failure to file the required Statement of Information and, if
applicable, the required Statement by Common Interest Development
Association. Information regarding the type of suspension can be
obtained by ordering a status report. For information on ordering a
status report, refer to Information Requests.

Yep....I would say tax problems.

[philedelphia]

phl
answered prayer would see the woman in jail and an end to the false
doctrine worship everytime she says illuminate it reminds me that she
has a glow in the dark dildo for her lesbian activity when she leavs
the stage

traitor illuminati whore jezabel melissa scott
burn in hell for your unrepentence greedy baal worshipper

oh yeah ill still drop a nugget of gold rebuke off for your sunday
"self service" as they gather to watch you stroke yourself with the
pages of gods word while the blind get off on feelin good about
themselvers for letting you do it at their expense in the profane name
of lying shame and merchandised false doctrine

burn in hell jezabel and the lord can start purifyingand strengthening
his people by making an example of you and bringing you down melissa
scott way low where you lose your wealth your reputation and liberty.
Jail bitch Prison you corrupt and eroded fake priest witch

burn that church down lord i pray for it. just the building lord not
the people let them watch it burn as i had to watch my mothers home
burn for your desire ands example

make a show of her lord! SELAH

the truth be told

[rpbc]

rpbc:
Hi 123, hope you're staying happy.

Suspended sure sounds like legal action taken against them to me. Ane here we were led to believe she was simply denying outsiders with interest access. This might be the tip of an iceburg that is striking the planet.

[happy123]

> Suspended sure sounds like legal action taken against them to me.  Ane here we were led to believe she was simply denying outsiders with interest access.  This might be the tip of an iceburg that is striking the planet.- Hide quoted text -

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rpbc...my e-mail account got hacked...have a new one. I am staying
for happy! I would say life is so much better being free of the Scott
Church and some of the people that were involved.

[rpbc]

rpbc:
I see... that explains everything on the western front. Glad you're staying happy.

[happy123]

Hi Chaz,

As I posted it looks like they have tax issues due to the definition
of "suspended" . According to the this link......

http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Glendale/dolores-press/39543959.aspx

Melissa Scott is President and Patricia Glaser is the Registered
Agent.

So she keeps saying.....she is not Dolores Press.....she is not Barbie
Bridges....when will I have the pleasure of hearing....she is not
Pastor Melissa Scott?!

[philedelphia]

phl
if the truth be told pastore peroff you shouldnt disturb holy ground.
its criminal. but then you come from a family of criminals dont
you? hmm that explains the seared conscience

strip you down to size
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quVERH404pA

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

On Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:31:50 AM UTC-7, Chaz Lambrusco wrote:

When did it become suspended?

You sat failure to pay taxes or the annual fee of 800 and sum odd dollars.
The deadline for such payment is the beginning of August. If it's that,
then this just recently occurred.

But just maybe, the powers that be at DP wanted to change the corp status
to something else like an LLC or an LLP or maybe an "S" corp, where
it's a different set of rules all together. One of them is that you don't
have to pay the annual fees like a "C" corp, and your taxes can be itemized
under your personal IRS filing with itemized deductions etc.

Maybe this is what Wakeman recommends with his little investment company.
What are they called again?

[philedelphia]

On Aug 12, 4:21 pm, philedelphia <johnstar...@gmail.com> wrote:

and while your at it lord you could turn that tabernacle in the
wilderness over at the leslie hale empire in dunedin into a pile of
rubble just like michael smote the bank in the movie

the liar rode dr,scotts coat tails at my expense all the while in bed
with the tax deducters of gods word. get those deductions in now.
you sell out of a preacher.

[happy123]

On Aug 12, 4:50 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Hi Studio,

Mike Wakeman's company is Pisteo Investment Group. I believe this was
opened because of Arechiga v. Dolores Press, Inc. I think they want
to run any new employees thru this company. It does look like
Dolores Press was caught for not paying proper taxes. If you were
just wanting to change your corporate status you would not need to get
suspended. I am sure Patricia Glaser could have had that done without
the suspension. Gene did not like to answer to the tax man and
Melissa is the same. Let's see the tax man has Brad Tubin on the top
500 delinquent taxpayer list....come October he may find himself
suspended from the Bar and without a Driver License....Dolores Press
is suspended....Hhhmm Melissa pays herself a dollar a year for her
services and has all her expenses paid....the tax man may knock on her
door soon!

[philedelphia]

phl

:)123

".Hhhmm Melissa pays herself a dollar a year for her services and has
all her expenses paid....the tax man may knock on her door soon! "

bible gate way
The chilling account of the sudden deaths of Ananias (Hebrew, "the
Lord is gracious") and Sapphira (Aramaic, "beautiful")

phl
just replace the names with dr.scott and his message of grace via
liscentious example and melissa scotts vanity

sapphira/ m. scott says i have givin all to u lord just paid 1 dollar
a year like my husband... (expenses paid :))

see befor the sacrificing of the saints that took place via communing
as recorded in new testiment scripture or in the case of these two
frauds the suedo giving that was perpetrated in the name of living
sacrifice via corrupt pocket book sacrificing as aninias and sapphira
exemplified. and dr scott and melissa scott exemplify. it was
understood that there were no mandates requirements or law other than
worshipping god in truth which was placed upon believers..

it was theres to keep they didnt have to enter into the communing of
things that was taking place and even if the occassion was calling for
this kind of sharing which happened it was still an occassion for
truthfull intention and activity to take place freely and willingly in
the love of god as recieved through the partaking of jesus christ and
his spirit his butterfly affect of salvation and victory over
unrighteousness into the christ

they missed the point as the pocket book frauds they were oblivious to
the partaking of the prophetic narrative into the christ and the joy
of communing in its glory that was freely available and still is in
terms of dollars and debt...sin debt really to any that will hear,
understand and incline themselves upon his word and testimony

aninias and sapphira personify last days false church full of filthy
lucre and deception and false doctrine

dr,scott and melissa scott play out the literal roles for our example
and warning

[Gypsie]

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methinks they are jest finding more ways to suck money from the
failthful's wallets without paying for it. These poor people are
perfect setups jest like we here were once upon a time.

[cowman]

suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better
place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation
formaly.

[philedelphia]

what they really held back was there love

[babyshoes]

wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there?

[FC_FBN]

On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote:
> On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there?

Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived.

[Gypsie]

Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the
'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about
now

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget.
What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center?
I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only?
A means to further confuse the taxman?

Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these
things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking
"probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years
later after I really could care less.

I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere
in No. California? Google maps?

[FC_FBN]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:49:35 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote: > > > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there? > > > > > > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived. > > > > Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the > > 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about > > now Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget. What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center? I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only? A means to further confuse the taxman? Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking "probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years later after I really could care less. I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere in No. California? Google maps?

For those of you that have Google Earth do a search for "1400 Grand Ave, Orville, CA" It will take you to WCC...or at least where it was. Note the fence around the facility. Use Street View if you want to do a drive by. If anybody has friends in Orville maybe they could check it out and see if it is still going.

[Gypsie]

On Aug 13, 9:49 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an
Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death
someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a
building with weeds waist high.

These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations
that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l
like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the
Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:WCC
So was there EVER any congregation thriving there?
Or was it an abomination of desolation?

Will Gene Scott pay for leaving a church building empty?
Fucking idiot.

[Matt2442]

> Hi Gypsie and rpbc,
>
>
>
> Please see the link posted below.
>
>
>
> http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/cbs-field-status-definitions.htm
>
>
>
> Suspended or Forfeited: The business entity's powers, rights and
>
> privileges were suspended or forfeited in California 1) by the
>
> Franchise Tax Board for failure to file a return and/or failure to pay
>
> taxes, penalties, or interest; and/or 2) by the Secretary of State for
>
> failure to file the required Statement of Information and, if
>
> applicable, the required Statement by Common Interest Development
>
> Association. Information regarding the type of suspension can be
>
> obtained by ordering a status report. For information on ordering a
>
> status report, refer to Information Requests.
>
>
>
> Yep....I would say tax problems.

Matt2442:
Is Brad Tubin in charge of DP?

[Matt2442]

gypsie:

> WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an
>
> Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death
>
> someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a
>
> building with weeds waist high.
>
>
>
> These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations
>
> that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l
>
> like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the
>
> Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death.

Matt2442:
When I first attended KH1 (and long after) the sign in front said Wescott Christian Center. I thought for a long time that the church was named after William Eugene Scott. I heard Doc say several times that he pastored two churches (Wescott AND Faith Center?).

[FC_FBN]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:53:59 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Monday, August 13, 2012 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:49 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > > > > On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there? > > > > > > > > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived. > > > > > > > Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the > > > > > > > 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about > > > > > > > now > > > > > > Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget. > > > What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center? > > > I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only? > > > A means to further confuse the taxman? > > > > > > Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these > > > things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking > > > "probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years > > > later after I really could care less. > > > > > > I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere > > > in No. California? Google maps?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an > > Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death > > someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a > > building with weeds waist high. > > > > These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations > > that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l > > like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the > > Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death. . studio:WCC So was there EVER any congregation thriving there? Or was it an abomination of desolation? Will Gene Scott pay for leaving a church building empty? Fucking idiot.

While I was never personally at WCC, to my knowledge, it was in full swing when Doc first came to FC. And he never interchanged the names of FC with WCC. Of course, that was back when I was there. From what Gypsie says it sounds like that changed later. As to the current condition of the WCC property, when the Street View photo was taken on Google Earth the grounds seemed to be in pretty good shape. That may be different today.

And as Matt pointed out WCC stood for W. Eugene Scott Christian Center (“Wescott” CC). I can’t recall who was conducting services there when Doc came to FC. It may have been an associate there at the time.

I do recall hearing Doc say after he came to FC that it was his goal to tie up everything legally in such a mess that nobody could ever figure out what was going on. That may help to explain all the “shell games.”

[DP]

Yes, I heard him say that also. The "Truth About" magazine vol 1, num 1 has a timeline of Doc's first 10 years at Faith Center and for 1976 it says:

"With much of the institutional reorganization completed early in the year and a payback plan to trustors commenced, Dr. Scott launches his greatest work, described by one news reporter as 'the most astonishing show on television' when the Festival of Faith began airing nightly in the fall. The rebuilding effort mounts as sister church Wescott Christian Center lends its financial strength."

I'll be visiting family in Oroville soon and will try to see if the Wescott there is still an active church.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Thanks DP. When you do go to Oroville ca ya ask if
they know of anyone who ever attended that church?
What was it like etc.? Thanks.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 12:38:14 PM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote:

Wow, to name a church after yourself?
Reminds me of that Dove album cover!
No laughing matter, this guy had a self esteem, personality issue.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Yet, no one knows of any congregants or ministers who ever attended there?
Not one has popped up in here on AFGS to check in like what FC/FBN did
and how there's still more alumni out there somewhere?

There has to be some trace elements of a once open door church
there don't ya think?

[Gypsie]

On Aug 13, 1:18 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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I had always thought Wescott was named for doc too. At some point
Wescott was sort of a holding company. doc switched from FC to WCC
around the time that the pony girls were in full swing to sue him for
not paying them, when the tabloids were getting ready to do their
story. So, somehow I got the idea when process servers were to be
expected the name change took place (at least that is what seemed to
be when I was at KH1 and worked amongst Gary et al). Then when all
seemed well again, the name would change back.

[Gypsie]

like everything that was around doc, only the thing he was focused in
on at the time ever got attention or maintenance. This is why KH1, DP.
Oroville WCC, Carribean Beacon....... everything jest seemed to die.
Esp when he in his horsey, pony girl stage. Nothing mattered or got
any money except for that one area of his life........ including staff
paychecks. doc was so self centered and charasmatic that he really did
suck the air out of any room he entered.

[DP]

The only minister I recall who was associated with Wescott in Oroville (after the Scotts) was Dr. Jack J. Chinn who passed away a year ago at age 94. Looks like his teaching ministry website was shut down after his death.

[Daniel]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 3:50:03 PM UTC-7, DP wrote:
> On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:21:38 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:02:36 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:53:59 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:49 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > > > > On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there? > > > > > > > > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived. > > > > > > > Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the > > > > > > > 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about > > > > > > > now > > > > > > Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget. > > > What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center? > > > I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only? > > > A means to further confuse the taxman? > > > > > > Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these > > > things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking > > > "probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years > > > later after I really could care less. > > > > > > I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere > > > in No. California? Google maps?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an > > Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death > > someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a > > building with weeds waist high. > > > > These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations > > that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l > > like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the > > Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death. . studio:WCC So was there EVER any congregation thriving there? Or was it an abomination of desolation? Will Gene Scott pay for leaving a church building empty? Fucking idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > > While I was never personally at WCC, to my knowledge, it was in full swing when Doc first came to FC. And he never interchanged the names of FC with WCC. Of course, that was back when I was there. From what Gypsie says it sounds like that changed later. As to the current condition of the WCC property, when the Street View photo was taken on Google Earth the grounds seemed to be in pretty good shape. That may be different today. > > > > > > > > > > > > And as Matt pointed out WCC stood for W. Eugene Scott Christian Center (“Wescott” CC). I can’t recall who was conducting services there when Doc came to FC. It may have been an associate there at the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do recall hearing Doc say after he came to FC that it was his goal to tie up everything legally in such a mess that nobody could ever figure out what was going on. That may help to explain all the “shell games.” > > > > Yet, no one knows of any congregants or ministers who ever attended there? > > Not one has popped up in here on AFGS to check in like what FC/FBN did > > and how there's still more alumni out there somewhere? > > > > There has to be some trace elements of a once open door church > > there don't ya think? The only minister I recall who was associated with Wescott in Oroville (after the Scotts) was Dr. Jack J. Chinn who passed away a year ago at age 94. Looks like his teaching ministry website was shut down after his death.

I think Chin ran the Brazilian Orphanage thing to with Scotts $$ and approval of course.

[Gypsie]

true enuf Brazil but I also think Chinn was involved earlier in
Oroville

[babyshoes]

On Aug 13, 1:18 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Wow, to name a church after yourself?>>

speaks volumes doesn't it?

unless Wescott was a father and son thing ..or father mother son
thing.."We"scott christian center..lol

[Gypsie]

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William Eugene Scott = Wescott

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:
Okay, memory jog here......

Somewhere back between 2005 and 2007 there was a series of posts
by who know who (research guy?) that says Chinn was contacted about
church stuff and specifically that orphanage, he stated that he hadn't
heard from Gene Scott in years and that money....what money?????
The posts also said he laughed when told about the orphanage.
Like as if Gene Scott was up to his old tricks. Hmmm.

[Gypsie]

On Aug 13, 8:30 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>

wrote:
> On Monday, August 13, 2012 6:46:10 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 5:12 pm, Daniel <dano2...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 3:50:03 PM UTC-7, DP wrote:
>
> > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:21:38 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:02:36 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:53:59 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:49 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > > > > On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there? > > > > > > > > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived. > > > > > > > Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the > > > > > > > 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about > > > > > > > now > > > > > > Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget. > > > What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center? > > > I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only? > > > A means to further confuse the taxman? > > > > > > Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these > > > things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking > > > "probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years > > > later after I really could care less. > > > > > > I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere > > > in No. California? Google maps?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an > > Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death > > someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a > > building with weeds waist high. > > > > These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations > > that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l > > like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the > > Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death. . studio:WCC So was there EVER any congregation thriving there? Or was it an abomination of desolation? Will Gene Scott pay for leaving a church building empty? Fucking idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > > While I was never personally at WCC, to my knowledge, it was in full swing when Doc first came to FC. And he never interchanged the names of FC with WCC. Of course, that was back when I was there. From what Gypsie says it sounds like that changed later. As to the current condition of the WCC property, when the Street View photo was taken on Google Earth the grounds seemed to be in pretty good shape. That may be different today. > > > > > > > > > > > > And as Matt pointed out WCC stood for W. Eugene Scott Christian Center (“Wescott” CC). I can’t recall who was conducting services there when Doc came to FC. It may have been an associate there at the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do recall hearing Doc say after he came to FC that it was his goal to tie up everything legally in such a mess that nobody could ever figure out what was going on. That may help to explain all the “shell games.” > > > > Yet, no one knows of any congregants or ministers who ever attended there? > > Not one has popped up in here on AFGS to check in like what FC/FBN did > > and how there's still more alumni out there somewhere? > > > > There has to be some trace elements of a once open door church > > there don't ya think? The only minister I recall who was associated with Wescott in Oroville (after the Scotts) was Dr. Jack J. Chinn who passed away a year ago at age 94. Looks like his teaching ministry website was shut down after his death.
>
> > > I think Chin ran the Brazilian Orphanage thing to with Scotts $$ and approval of course.
>
> > true enuf Brazil but I also think Chinn was involved earlier in
>
> > Oroville
>
> .
> studio:
> Okay, memory jog here......
>
> Somewhere back between 2005 and 2007 there was a series of posts
> by who know who (research guy?) that says Chinn was contacted about
> church stuff and specifically that orphanage, he stated that he hadn't
> heard from Gene Scott in years and that money....what money?????
> The posts also said he laughed when told about the orphanage.

> Like as if Gene Scott was up to his old tricks. Hmmm.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I remember that too. It was either Researcher Guy or Mr. X. Mebbe one
of our cracekr jack searchers that are so good at navigating our
archives could find that conversation. Seems it was in the year
immediately after doc died. Afgs was pretty intense from the day he
died and that first year when we all were determined to get to the
truth when missy finally announced that there were NO MEMBERS in doc's
and her church.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:

Yeah, like back then AFGS was running on this quote:

“During times of universal deceit,
telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act”

- George Orwell

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:

This quote reminds me of the deceiving doc:


“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”

Seems like all of docs lies were available to him throughout
the lifespan of his function as a church go to guy.

It also seems he was never but a click away from being
the clandestine wolf in sheep's clothing that must have
been with him since Inez and Ted held him in their arms.

I wonder how many other churches along the way he "saved"
until he caught FBN/FC? Surely if this was his calling
he would have continued that legacy through his life,
but it seemed to have stopped in Glendale.

Then it morphed into more or less political and community
involvement in edifices like the aquatic center in
Pasadena. Hell, as long as he got his name on a fucking
plaque somewhere he was good with it. Didn't care how he got
the money, it wasn't his to begin with but the end result
was something with him being validated and notarized.

Narcissistic Asshole. Is there a DSM for that? lol.

[FC_FBN]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 8:37:51 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote:
> On Aug 13, 8:30 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, August 13, 2012 6:46:10 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > > On Aug 13, 5:12 pm, Daniel <dano2...@netzero.net> wrote: > > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 3:50:03 PM UTC-7, DP wrote: > > > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:21:38 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:02:36 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:53:59 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:49 am, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > > > > On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there? > > > > > > > > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived. > > > > > > > Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the > > > > > > > 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about > > > > > > > now > > > > > > Okay, this may be for another topic but I have to ask before I forget. > > > What the heck is the deal with WesScott Christian Center? > > > I mean, was it a separate church? A building in name only? > > > A means to further confuse the taxman? > > > > > > Was DP and WCC a package deal? I never knew about any of these > > > things. Too afraid to look like a newbie I guess by asking > > > "probing" questions. Now I feel real dumb asking twenty years > > > later after I really could care less. > > > > > > I once saw a picture of WCC. I think it was that building, somewhere > > > in No. California? Google maps?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > WCC was used interchangeably with FC in Glumdale. I think it was an > > Oroville original and was used down here as needed. After doc's death > > someone who lived nearby in NoCal went to visit and found WCC was a > > building with weeds waist high. > > > > These things were all part of the multiple shell game corporations > > that were already created and used before he came to Glumdale, jest l > > like the stretch bodies doc used for his image (came from the > > Mausoleum) were actually used for things related to death. . studio:WCC So was there EVER any congregation thriving there? Or was it an abomination of desolation? Will Gene Scott pay for leaving a church building empty? Fucking idiot. > > > > > > > > > > > > While I was never personally at WCC, to my knowledge, it was in full swing when Doc first came to FC. And he never interchanged the names of FC with WCC. Of course, that was back when I was there. From what Gypsie says it sounds like that changed later. As to the current condition of the WCC property, when the Street View photo was taken on Google Earth the grounds seemed to be in pretty good shape. That may be different today. > > > > > > > > > > > > And as Matt pointed out WCC stood for W. Eugene Scott Christian Center (“Wescott” CC). I can’t recall who was conducting services there when Doc came to FC. It may have been an associate there at the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do recall hearing Doc say after he came to FC that it was his goal to tie up everything legally in such a mess that nobody could ever figure out what was going on. That may help to explain all the “shell games.” > > > > Yet, no one knows of any congregants or ministers who ever attended there? > > Not one has popped up in here on AFGS to check in like what FC/FBN did > > and how there's still more alumni out there somewhere? > > > > There has to be some trace elements of a once open door church > > there don't ya think? The only minister I recall who was associated with Wescott in Oroville (after the Scotts) was Dr. Jack J. Chinn who passed away a year ago at age 94. Looks like his teaching ministry website was shut down after his death. > > > > I think Chin ran the Brazilian Orphanage thing to with Scotts $$ and approval of course. > > > true enuf Brazil but I also think Chinn was involved earlier in > > > Oroville > > . > studio: > Okay, memory jog here...... > > Somewhere back between 2005 and 2007 there was a series of posts > by who know who (research guy?) that says Chinn was contacted about > church stuff and specifically that orphanage, he stated that he hadn't > heard from Gene Scott in years and that money....what money????? > The posts also said he laughed when told about the orphanage. > Like as if Gene Scott was up to his old tricks. Hmmm.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I remember that too. It was either Researcher Guy or Mr. X. Mebbe one of our cracekr jack searchers that are so good at navigating our archives could find that conversation. Seems it was in the year immediately after doc died. Afgs was pretty intense from the day he died and that first year when we all were determined to get to the truth when missy finally announced that there were NO MEMBERS in doc's and her church.

The intent from the beginning, or so we were told, was to have Dr. Desmond Evans take the helm at FC. I can’t recall his exact title however. I believe he was supposed to take care of FC church on a regular basis while Doc tended to other business like writing books etc. Doc had worked with Des in the past according to what I have in my archives. Des didn’t stick around too long, however, and moved on. He was a good man and ended up pastoring Bethesda Community Church in the Fort Worth area. I believe he is now retired.

[rpbc]

>
> studio:
>
>
>
> This quote reminds me of the deceiving doc:
>
>
>
>
>
> “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”
>
>
>
> Seems like all of docs lies were available to him throughout
>
> the lifespan of his function as a church go to guy.
>
>
>
> It also seems he was never but a click away from being
>
> the clandestine wolf in sheep's clothing that must have
>
> been with him since Inez and Ted held him in their arms.
>
>
>
> I wonder how many other churches along the way he "saved"
>
> until he caught FBN/FC? Surely if this was his calling
>
> he would have continued that legacy through his life,
>
> but it seemed to have stopped in Glendale.
>
>
>
> Then it morphed into more or less political and community
>
> involvement in edifices like the aquatic center in
>
> Pasadena. Hell, as long as he got his name on a fucking
>
> plaque somewhere he was good with it. Didn't care how he got
>
> the money, it wasn't his to begin with but the end result
>
> was something with him being validated and notarized.
>
>
>
> Narcissistic Asshole. Is there a DSM for that? lol.

rpbc:
Narcissistic Asshole indeed but it wasn't money he lusted after but power. That's something he learned that took him to the banquet stage where he quickly succumbed as sure as a Skull and Bones member... like Bush and Kerry. If he wasn't such a low count hill billy with simple low cut tastes he could have been dangerous way past a small cult of limited influence. Willie Brown spilled the beans when he gave what was intended as compliments from the platform. Really.

[babyshoes]

> seemed well again, the name would change back.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

<around the time that the pony girls were in full swing to sue him
for
not paying them>

Gene had to of paid them off and have bull dog patty give them papers
to sign.
Not a peep out of any of them.
The pony girls had no love/allegiance to Gene or Melissa..
they were hirelings.

I wonder how much hush money Melissa pays out monthly?

[Gypsie]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 10:54:56 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote:

<snip>

I wonder how much hush money Melissa pays out monthly?

honestly I don't think anybody lasts long enough to have a history with her

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

How long was she married to Paul Pastore?
About the same amount of time with Gene Scott?
is there a pattern here?

Does she now say she's married to the church?
How long is that gonna last?

[DP]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote:
> On Aug 13, 7:09 am, FC_FBN <fc1615...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:01:02 PM UTC-7, babyshoes wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 12, 8:29 pm, cowman <vvorkos...@gmail.com> wrote: > suspended is just another name for replaced corporation on better > place and better name...I gess now it's european or azian corporation > formaly. wasn't Dolores Press a part of faith center when Pastor Ray was there?
>
> >
>
> > Delores Press belonged to Doc and came with him. Faith Center had no association with DP prior to Doc. In fact I had never heard of it before he arrived.
>
>
>
> Dolores Press was part of the San Francisco setup in fact, the
>
> 'mother' was still in SF all the time doc was around. Don't know about
>
> now

I forgot to mention in the earlier part of this thread that Dolores Press used to have an office at 389 Church St in San Francisco, which is close to Dolores Park and Mission Dolores, so that's probably where the name came from.

My notes say that Scott bought Dolores Press around 1970 and I believe it was shortly thereafter that he began publishing his booklets such as "Four Mountains in a Troubled Land", "A Lonely Winepress...", etc

[Gypsie]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 2:26:30 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote:

<snip>

personality issue.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I had always thought Wescott was named for doc too. At some point Wescott was sort of a holding company. doc switched from FC to WCC around the time that the pony girls were in full swing to sue him for not paying them, when the tabloids were getting ready to do their story. So, somehow I got the idea when process servers were to be expected the name change took place (at least that is what seemed to be when I was at KH1 and worked amongst Gary et al). Then when all seemed well again, the name would change back.

what happened with the Dove album cover?

[Gypsie]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 8:37:51 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote:
> On Aug 13, 8:30 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, August 13, 2012 6:46:10 PM UTC-7,

<snip>

Re: question re Tubin in charge of DP.

According to the more recent filings, Tubin is the attorney of record. This was filed at the same time as Wakeman's Pisteo filing

[Gypsie]

On Monday, August 13, 2012 1:18:32 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Monday, August 13, 2012 12:38:14 PM UTC-7,

Re: Wow, to name a church after yourself? Reminds me of that Dove album cover! No laughing matter, this guy had a self esteem, personality issue.

the truth was always out there. In fact doc made it a point from the pulpit many times about how he fleeced the sheep and how nasty and natty we all became. doc never really lied to us about how much he really hated us and held us all in contempt (except where it really mattered). He really enjoyed the in your face contempt that he truly held for us and used the bahbull so skillfully to justify it all the time

I look back neow and jest say to myself AMAZING!!

[Matt2442]

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:02:57 AM UTC-7, DP wrote:

> My notes say that Scott bought Dolores Press around 1970 and I believe it was shortly thereafter that he began publishing his booklets such as "Four Mountains in a Troubled Land", "A Lonely Winepress...", etc

Matt2442:
You mean those epic works of scholarship <sarcasm>, after which he published nothing in the next 30 or so years?

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Sure matt2442, it was a game of semantics ya know.

Doc: I published over thirty books!

studio: Yeah, the size of toilet paper.

Doc: That's where I do my best thinking!


okay, on a weird side note here.......
Last night, couldn't sleep.....
Channel surfing, hit fox channel 11
and saw Melissa Scott from Glendale.
First time I actually sat and watched her.
OMG, the sanctuary looks like a lifeless,
colorless stage of yogurt.

The mirrors are kinda useless without the smoke!

It's similar to what Jesus said, white on the outside
but inside full of cult men's bones.

Her sermon was very basic Christianity however
the ending of her little message gave away
her intent and her GS indoctrination.

She looked like she was imitating GS even in
body gestures. But her words were not her own
and some of her anecdotal stories about herself
seemed to be about someone else but not her.

She still sticks to the claiming promises and
that dilapidated "faithwalk" stuff that I guess
is being peddled from pulpit to pulpit these days.

Overall it looked contrived. She even tried to explain
her accent, or her introduction of multi language
experiences. Oh brother.

[Gypsie]

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:28:32 AM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:02:57 AM UTC-7, DP wrote: > My notes say that Scott bought Dolores Press around 1970 and I believe it was shortly thereafter that he began publishing his booklets such as "Four Mountains in a Troubled Land", "A Lonely Winepress...", etc Matt2442: You mean those epic works of scholarship <sarcasm>, after which he published nothing in the next 30 or so years?

yah, the 'plates' for the publication or duplication of doc's leaflets was oft discussed as being utilized to get some of the extinct ones back on the market to fill mail orders....... DP solution? reprint? Noooooo the value of doc's 'books' was that peeps actually paid full price and after the legal time limit ran out, the particular one was XEROXED and sent.

[Gypsie]

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:01:00 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:28:32 AM UTC-7, Matt2442 wrote: > On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:02:57 AM UTC-7, DP wrote: > > > > > My notes say that Scott bought Dolores Press around 1970 and I believe it was shortly thereafter that he began publishing his booklets such as "Four Mountains in a Troubled Land", "A Lonely Winepress...", etc > > > > Matt2442: > > You mean those epic works of scholarship <sarcasm>, after which he published nothing in the next 30 or so years? Sure matt2442, it was a game of semantics ya know. Doc: I published over thirty books! studio: Yeah, the size of toilet paper. Doc: That's where I do my best thinking! okay, on a weird side note here....... Last night, couldn't sleep..... Channel surfing, hit fox channel 11 and saw Melissa Scott from Glendale. First time I actually sat and watched her. OMG, the sanctuary looks like a lifeless, colorless stage of yogurt. The mirrors are kinda useless without the smoke! It's similar to what Jesus said, white on the outside but inside full of cult men's bones. Her sermon was very basic Christianity however the ending of her little message gave away her intent and her GS indoctrination. She looked like she was imitating GS even in body gestures. But her words were not her own and some of her anecdotal stories about herself seemed to be about someone else but not her. She still sticks to the claiming promises and that dilapidated "faithwalk" stuff that I guess is being peddled from pulpit to pulpit these days. Overall it looked contrived. She even tried to explain her accent, or her introduction of multi language experiences. Oh brother.

Sounds like she was trying to be charming? lmao

[rpbc]

rpbc:
I don't know which one you saw but similarly the two I sat through a few weeks ago she seems to have actually captured, or should I say been possessed by the very spirit that animated him during the last so many years, an amalgam of years ago with the pony girl period having none of the depth or understanding of which he was capable of demonstrating. She seems to be running on energy but nothing else. Drugs, anger and frustration at her failing situation... or something else.... whatever, she is energized from something and it isn't the Holy Spirit or she'd make sense, have unity in her message.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

yeah, I get that. A lack of real spirit, The Holy Spirit to be exact.
But why weren't we able to discern that with Gene Scott at the helm?
That question still bothers me. Really bothers me.

[happy123]

On Aug 12, 4:50 pm, ". (((((((studio))))))) ." <studios...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:31:50 AM UTC-7, Chaz Lambrusco wrote:
> > PMS keeps saying that Dolores Press is not her.  So, I looked it up
>
> > on the California Secretary of State Site.
>
> > SUSPENDED!
>
> > Entity Name:       DOLORES PRESS
>
> > Entity Number:     C0315389
>
> > Date Filed:        02/01/1956
>
> > Status:    SUSPENDED           <----------------
>
> > Jurisdiction:      CALIFORNIA
>
> > Entity Address:    1501 S GLENDALE AVENUE
>
> > Entity City, State, Zip:   GLENDALE CA 91205
>
> > Agent for Service of Process:      PATRICIA GLASER
>
> > Agent Address:     10250 CONSTELLATION AVENUE
>
> > Agent City, State, Zip:    LOS ANGELES CA 91205
>
> > So, where is Dolores Press incorporated?  Is it a Non-profit now?
>
> When did it become suspended?
>
> You sat failure to pay taxes or the annual fee of 800 and sum odd dollars.
> The deadline for such payment is the beginning of August. If it's that,
> then this just recently occurred.
>
> But just maybe, the powers that be at DP wanted to change the corp status
> to something else like an LLC or an LLP or maybe an "S" corp, where
> it's a different set of rules all together. One of them is that you don't
> have to pay the annual fees like a "C" corp, and your taxes can be itemized
> under your personal IRS filing with itemized deductions etc.
>
> Maybe this is what Wakeman recommends with his little investment company.
> What are they called again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

From the investigating I did DP has been suspended from at least
5-14-12. Melissa Scott is President and Patricia Glaser is the
registered agent. Now Melissa was telling everyone they could go to
the book store and buy her Pastor's choice. She annouced this during
her services in July. She would tell them to ask the ushers after the
service and they would tell them where the store was located. She
told them to save their church pass because they would need to show
that to get in. She had to know the store was suspended and could not
do business. She really does not want to mess with the tax man.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

yet that is exactly what she's doing.
You don't think they read this newsgroup too?

[Gypsie]

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:43:17 PM UTC-7, happy123 wrote:

<snip>

RE: "She would tell them to ask the ushers after the

service and they would tell them where the store was located. She told them to save their church pass because they would need to show that to get in."

so is she also doing stealth re DP like she was doing with her stealth broadcasts?? lmao

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

probably like those gourmet food trucks that pop up
around town. You have to be on their twitter list
and they tell you where the next location is.

Melissa is driving around in an old Library Truck
and selling books on the sly? ROFLMAO!!

I wonder if it has a VIP room?

[Gypsie]

On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:40:03 PM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:43:57 PM UTC-7, Gypsie wrote: > On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 2:43:17 PM UTC-7, happy123 wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > RE: "She would tell them to ask the ushers after the > > service and they would tell them where the store was located. She told them to save their church pass because they would need to show that to get in." > > > > so is she also doing stealth re DP like she was doing with her stealth broadcasts?? lmao probably like those gourmet food trucks that pop up around town. You have to be on their twitter list and they tell you where the next location is. Melissa is driving around in an old Library Truck and selling books on the sly? ROFLMAO!! I wonder if it has a VIP room?

studio, sounds to me like you may have a market for that secret decoder ring???? HAHAHAHAHA quick call the 800 number and cough three times, hang up then cough twice

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

LOL....Is that the code now?

DP should have died a more dignified death.
I betcha in the not so distant future
You'll be hearing about the elimination of
the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's
medical expenses.

[TroubledFaither]

Studio said, "DP should have died a more dignified death. I betcha in the not so distant future You'll be hearing about the elimination of the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's medical expenses."

Yep, it should have died a more dignified death, indeed. It's weird how this Dolores Press news is bumming me out anew. I really thought I was moving past some of this and feeling better about it all, but now I feel slammed back into the gutter. It's just more concrete proof of what a stupid fuck dupe I was. I worked for DP most of my time there.

So--sometimes I cruise the archives for consolation and fun, and I found this gem today (part of a post Matt had referred to once). It's in a post called, "The Appeal of Gene" (2/21/94) from Phil Miller on 2/22/94. Phil said:

"I attended a service at the Church of the Open Door during hte small time that Scott was there. The sermon was from the OT book of Hagi -- a story about God blowing down some guys house because he didn't tithe. At one point Scott made everybody stand up who would agree to mortgage their home to help pay off the 17million dollar church price tage. And he accused too many followers of backsliding, and blew his nose in a Kleenex and threw it into the crowd."

Wow, I had never heard either of these stories, are you fucking kidding me? He really did expect people to give up their homes for him? He actually did his disgusting nose blowing and then THREW IT INTO THE AUDIENCE? Why am I shocked? It's just making me sick to think of those people who thought God would be pleased by them mortgaging their homes for Gene Scott. It was ALL a scam and a lost cause, COTOD, the Cathedral, DP, everything. I seriously feel like I am going to throw up right now.

[rpbc]

rpbc:
123 feeling fucked. Don't feel too fucked about it though. Some here were fucked long after the kissing stopped. I'm over feeling that way and one of the reasons is because, as Gypsie has mentioned, I left a number a years before I actually left... and, ironically, I think, that is something Scott used to scan the audience for, something from a person indicating they had already left, just hadn't quite going yet. By the time I actually left what ever feelings about not going had already left me. In fact, the day I knew I was never going back was one of the most refreshing experiences I've ever had... like being delivered from some deep financial debt to being economically independent in a few short moments. I still remember seeing it all disappear in the rear view mirror to a vanishing point, knowing it was over. It felt good, real good.... good like that overused but most appropriate expression, like a breath of fresh air, each breath more fresh than the last one. I felt free and quite happy about seeing it disappear behind me knowing it was over. 123 and I was happy.

[FC_FBN]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10:19 PM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote:

> Studio said, "DP should have died a more dignified death. I betcha in the not so distant future You'll be hearing about the elimination of the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's medical expenses." Yep, it should have died a more dignified death, indeed. It's weird how this Dolores Press news is bumming me out anew. I really thought I was moving past some of this and feeling better about it all, but now I feel slammed back into the gutter. It's just more concrete proof of what a stupid fuck dupe I was. I worked for DP most of my time there. So--sometimes I cruise the archives for consolation and fun, and I found this gem today (part of a post Matt had referred to once). It's in a post called, "The Appeal of Gene" (2/21/94) from Phil Miller on 2/22/94. Phil said: "I attended a service at the Church of the Open Door during hte small time that Scott was there. The sermon was from the OT book of Hagi -- a story about God blowing down some guys house because he didn't tithe. At one point Scott made everybody stand up who would agree to mortgage their home to help pay off the 17million dollar church price tage. And he accused too many followers of backsliding, and blew his nose in a Kleenex and threw it into the crowd." Wow, I had never heard either of these stories, are you fucking kidding me? He really did expect people to give up their homes for him? He actually did his disgusting nose blowing and then THREW IT INTO THE AUDIENCE? Why am I shocked? It's just making me sick to think of those people who thought God would be pleased by them mortgaging their homes for Gene Scott. It was ALL a scam and a lost cause, COTOD, the Cathedral, DP, everything. I seriously feel like I am going to throw up right now.

TF, you mentioned you worked at DP for a while. As you know I am one of the early era alumni. When I was there DP was still in the old San Francisco building that they claimed used to be an old horse stable in the late 1800’s or so. It was run by a lady by the name of Anushka (sp?) or something like that. I met her once when several of us stopped by there during a visit of KVOF. Did they move the presses to Glendale? Was the building on the corner just north of FC, 1501 S. Glendale Ave, just a book store outlet or did they print Doc’s books there? I think I heard they may have even set up shop in the old studio building. Can you give me a high level overview? My inquiring mind would like to know how DP evolved from the time when I left.

[Matt2442]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10:19 PM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote:

Matt2442:
I don't specifically recall the nose blowing then throwing the handkerchief, but that sounds so typical of what Scott would do. Yes he did expect people to mortgage homes, sell cars, get second and third jobs, etc., which many people did. Scott even made it an issue as to whether people would be saved or not.

[Matt2442]

Matt2442:
TF or Gypsie would know better than I, but the building on the corner, aka "Doc's Intelligence Center," appeared to be no more than an outlet to buy Doc's tapes and booklets, and also some books he read on the air (E. Raymond Capt books, The Devil In Connecticut, etc). I saw no evidence that anything was being printed from that location.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

That might be "the other location" Melissa was
talking about recently. Leap frog the bookstore.

[Matt2442]

> rpbc:
>
> 123 feeling fucked. Don't feel too fucked about it though. Some here were fucked long after the kissing stopped. I'm over feeling that way and one of the reasons is because, as Gypsie has mentioned, I left a number a years before I actually left... and, ironically, I think, that is something Scott used to scan the audience for, something from a person indicating they had already left, just hadn't quite going yet. By the time I actually left what ever feelings about not going had already left me. In fact, the day I knew I was never going back was one of the most refreshing experiences I've ever had... like being delivered from some deep financial debt to being economically independent in a few short moments. I still remember seeing it all disappear in the rear view mirror to a vanishing point, knowing it was over. It felt good, real good.... good like that overused but most appropriate expression, like a breath of fresh air, each breath more fresh than the last one. I felt free and quite happy about seeing it disappear behind me knowing it was over. 123 and I was happy.

Matt2442:
I wish I could have felt that way when I left. Yes there was a sense of relief, but I also felt much like TF does, and for a good while after. I also "left" before physically no longer attending, there was a sense of divorce, I was no longer hooked in the way that I had been, but it still hurt after leaving for good. It took a while, and really not until talking it out among people with a common experience in here did I begin to feel any closure.

[DP]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:20:14 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote:

Was the DP building in San Francisco on Church St? I've seen an address of 389 Church St in Internet searches. Years ago on "The FBN Files" site at TVBN.org, the blogger who used to work for KVOF did mention Anushka and described her as secretary/manager of DP.

The new FBN site mentions that KVOF opened an office at 601 Taraval St in SF in 1974 when the station was first going on the air.

[Gypsie]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:38:52 PM UTC-7, rpbc wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10:19 PM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote: > Studio said, "DP should have died a more dignified death. I betcha in the not so distant future You'll be hearing about the elimination of the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's medical expenses." > > > > Yep, it should have died a more dignified death, indeed. It's weird how this Dolores Press news is bumming me out anew. I really thought I was moving past some of this and feeling better about it all, but now I feel slammed back into the gutter. It's just more concrete proof of what a stupid fuck dupe I was. I worked for DP most of my time there. > > > > So--sometimes I cruise the archives for consolation and fun, and I found this gem today (part of a post Matt had referred to once). It's in a post called, "The Appeal of Gene" (2/21/94) from Phil Miller on 2/22/94. Phil said: > > > > "I attended a service at the Church of the Open Door during hte small time that Scott was there. The sermon was from the OT book of Hagi -- a story about God blowing down some guys house because he didn't tithe. At one point Scott made everybody stand up who would agree to mortgage their home to help pay off the 17million dollar church price tage. And he accused too many followers of backsliding, and blew his nose in a Kleenex and threw it into the crowd." > > > > Wow, I had never heard either of these stories, are you fucking kidding me? He really did expect people to give up their homes for him? He actually did his disgusting nose blowing and then THREW IT INTO THE AUDIENCE? Why am I shocked? It's just making me sick to think of those people who thought God would be pleased by them mortgaging their homes for Gene Scott. It was ALL a scam and a lost cause, COTOD, the Cathedral, DP, everything. I seriously feel like I am going to throw up right now. rpbc: 123 feeling fucked. Don't feel too fucked about it though. Some here were fucked long after the kissing stopped. I'm over feeling that way and one of the reasons is because, as Gypsie has mentioned, I left a number a years before I actually left... and, ironically, I think, that is something Scott used to scan the audience for, something from a person indicating they had already left, just hadn't quite going yet. By the time I actually left what ever feelings about not going had already left me. In fact, the day I knew I was never going back was one of the most refreshing experiences I've ever had... like being delivered from some deep financial debt to being economically independent in a few short moments. I still remember seeing it all disappear in the rear view mirror to a vanishing point, knowing it was over. It felt good, real good.... good like that overused but most appropriate expression, like a breath of fresh air, each breath more fresh than the last one. I felt free and quite happy about seeing it disappear behind me knowing it was over. 123 and I was happy.

what you are describing here rpbc is actually God's release from doc's church and your commitments. I have learned over the years to recognize this..... kinda like when the desire to stop a bad habit jest seems to happen. I recall that doc used to describe this like neow that he had the means to have whatever he wants he no longer has the desire. Sooooo True.

I too had the 'refreshing' newness come into my life as I turned and jest walked away. I knew that I had my release. It was wonderful

[FC_FBN]

On Friday, August 17, 2012 9:34:39 AM UTC-7, DP wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:20:14 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote: > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10:19 PM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote: > > > Studio said, "DP should have died a more dignified death. I betcha in the not so distant future You'll be hearing about the elimination of the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's medical expenses." Yep, it should have died a more dignified death, indeed. It's weird how this Dolores Press news is bumming me out anew. I really thought I was moving past some of this and feeling better about it all, but now I feel slammed back into the gutter. It's just more concrete proof of what a stupid fuck dupe I was. I worked for DP most of my time there. So--sometimes I cruise the archives for consolation and fun, and I found this gem today (part of a post Matt had referred to once). It's in a post called, "The Appeal of Gene" (2/21/94) from Phil Miller on 2/22/94. Phil said: "I attended a service at the Church of the Open Door during hte small time that Scott was there. The sermon was from the OT book of Hagi -- a story about God blowing down some guys house because he didn't tithe. At one point Scott made everybody stand up who would agree to mortgage their home to help pay off the 17million dollar church price tage. And he accused too many followers of backsliding, and blew his nose in a Kleenex and threw it into the crowd." Wow, I had never heard either of these stories, are you fucking kidding me? He really did expect people to give up their homes for him? He actually did his disgusting nose blowing and then THREW IT INTO THE AUDIENCE? Why am I shocked? It's just making me sick to think of those people who thought God would be pleased by them mortgaging their homes for Gene Scott. It was ALL a scam and a lost cause, COTOD, the Cathedral, DP, everything. I seriously feel like I am going to throw up right now. > > > > TF, you mentioned you worked at DP for a while. As you know I am one of the early era alumni. When I was there DP was still in the old San Francisco building that they claimed used to be an old horse stable in the late 1800’s or so. It was run by a lady by the name of Anushka (sp?) or something like that. I met her once when several of us stopped by there during a visit of KVOF. Did they move the presses to Glendale? Was the building on the corner just north of FC, 1501 S. Glendale Ave, just a book store outlet or did they print Doc’s books there? I think I heard they may have even set up shop in the old studio building. Can you give me a high level overview? My inquiring mind would like to know how DP evolved from the time when I left. Was the DP building in San Francisco on Church St? I've seen an address of 389 Church St in Internet searches. Years ago on "The FBN Files" site at TVBN.org, the blogger who used to work for KVOF did mention Anushka and described her as secretary/manager of DP. The new FBN site mentions that KVOF opened an office at 601 Taraval St in SF in 1974 when the station was first going on the air.

Yes, you are correct on both addresses. Remember, the printing facility and KVOF offices were independent of each other. The KVOF office was established before Doc came on board. Google Earth does not well define the former location of DP. I have attached some pictures (I hope) that will help show the location. Compare carefully the old picture I have in my archives against the Google Street View. If you look carefully at the buildings you will notice the basic exterior features are the same. I hope these links work as it is the first time I have used this.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3QiOtheLIXyelh2ZjZMNHhSYW8/edit

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3QiOtheLIXyTVRpOXdSeTAwaXM/edit

[Matt2442]

gypsie:

> what you are describing here rpbc is actually God's release from doc's church and your commitments. I have learned over the years to recognize this.....

Matt2442:
I recognize it as that as well, today at least, though at the time I thought there was something wrong.

[Gypsie]

On Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:31:50 AM UTC-7, Chaz Lambrusco wrote:
> PMS keeps saying that Dolores Press is not her. So, I looked it up on the California Secretary of State Site. SUSPENDED! Entity Name: DOLORES PRESS Entity Number: C0315389 Date Filed: 02/01/1956 Status: SUSPENDED <---------------- Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA Entity Address: 1501 S GLENDALE AVENUE Entity City, State, Zip: GLENDALE CA 91205 Agent for Service of Process: PATRICIA GLASER Agent Address: 10250 CONSTELLATION AVENUE Agent City, State, Zip: LOS ANGELES CA 91205 So, where is Dolores Press incorporated? Is it a Non-profit now?

This is a cut and paste from another site 8/16/2012.... THX sio
Dolores Press no longer a Ca business? Ha' Ha the jokes is on you!!!
4 posts by 1 author in Tell Gypsieland where to go
Categories:

Other recipients:
Mike Wakeman is the president of DP now
I forgotten what you call it but what has happened is the records on DP are given that hidden status like the location of kings house 2.

The evidence is in your face of they would listen to her..

When Doc spoke about going to the bookstore he gave the address
When She speaks about going to the bookstore she tells you to ask an usher to direct you to where it is.

See the difference?
Its been given a sort of what I call
The Area 51 status

Other recipients:
there is more to say about it

when we first started going back to KH1
I would come an hour+ early and walk around the area to get the exercise my Dr.. says I need to do
at times I would walk by the book store

one of the times when I did it I saw one of those state certificates in the window stating that a business (Dolores press) was approved to open at that location and Mike Wakeman was the president... At the time I thought great they fixed the building up years ago and now they are gonna reopen the bookstore there once again.

but now the times it is open is very restricted after the service and it is not open before the service like it was ages ago...
and by the way
nowadays they have Ian doing security at the bookstore an hour+ before the service starts
so she may have revived some sort of threat in regards to the bookstore that is whey she is doing this area 51 thing now ( that is just a theory of mine)
- show quoted text -

:Mike Wakeman is the president of DP now
I forgotten what you call it but what has happened is the records on DP are given that hidden status like the location of kings house 2.

The evidence is in your face of they would listen to her..

When Doc spoke about going to the bookstore he gave the address
When She speaks about going to the bookstore she tells you to ask an usher to direct you to where it is.

See the difference?
Its been given a sort of what I call
The Area 51 status

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

SIO?

LMFAO!

The guy is a scotty looney tick!

[TroubledFaither]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:20:14 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote:

Hi FC,
Actually, I only ever worked for DP at now defunct King's House #2 location on Broadway. When I joined in 1999 they were no longer using that small converted house on Glendale Ave. as the bookstore. She just started using the Glendale house right before I left in 2009, so I actually never set foot in there--my last visit to the 'bookstore' was when it was adjacent to the cathedral (the LAUC storefront). Even then, you had to show your pass to prove you had attended the service to get in. This is one of the many red flags I inexplicably ignored.

I had heard of DP having presses in SF, but chuckle at the thought of anything actually being printed for sale, thinking of Gypsie's 'xerox' example. When I worked there books and materials offered were bought elsewhere and shipped in. MS has a crap DVD copier and that's how she makes her CDs that go out for purchase. Some nights it took 3 hours and you were lucky to get 2 good copies to sell. Lots of waste there due to that horrible equipment. When she added the most recent book to be touted, such as the E.M. Bounds book on prayer, many were mumbling under their breath that Doc would have never featured that book, it was too legalistic. She pushed that one hard, saying she was going to teach out of it (but never did). But she sold that one at less than the cover price for awhile, which was a shocker. I got it, never opened it. Anyway, my point is definitely no printing went on at the moved DP, she was just selling other folks' work and cheap copies hers and GS'old stuff.

One thing worth noting, I was there when GS died, and initially many large orders came in and were prepared for mailing. Yet, not one of them ever got sent out. We were always waiting for MS' approval of the big orders and it just never happened. Not once do I recall her approving an order over say 5 CDs. I always felt it was such a waste to get them ready before she approved it. I never, ever saw a large order of Melissa Scott's material be requested, either. Her music CD sold hugely, but that's it. The 2 CDs I was burning every week for sale were GS' last resurrection message and her music CD. Not much else was being asked for.

One of my 'luxuries' (ha!) in that job was being able to take any old GS recording or DVD from the master file and listen to it. I used to sneak to the stuff that wasn't being offered anymore, such as one of the many 'tough shoes for a tough walk' sermons, and sit and listen. Shortly before I left all of the old master CDs for old messages of Gene Scott were removed from the DP back room, and I saw that a huge 'erase the old tapes' operation was now under way. LOTS of old tapes got erased, and the list of available messages became tiny almost overnight. That was the beginning of the end of the availability of GS' messages, thank God.

[TroubledFaither]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:38:52 PM UTC-7, rpbc wrote:

Thanks for this, RP, I will keep in mind that my fresh air is coming . . .I get a gulp now and then, cannot wait till it's just all good again like you and others describe. :)

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:

Funny, but speaking from experience she can't sing.
She can't sing cuz she's lazy. That seems to be
the bottom line with her. She sings everything
as if it's The Happy Birthday Song.

Back to DP. From anyone's experience, was there ever any book or
magazine that was fully manufactured from DP?

[Gypsie]

On Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:11:24 AM UTC-7, . (((((((studio))))))) . wrote:
<snip>
RE: "Back to DP. From anyone's experience, was there ever any book or magazine that was fully manufactured from DP?"

No, not in Glumdale. Also the plates etc in SF were so ancient that they were unusable. There was always talk about this whenever orders came into DP for doc's 'books', but alas nothing was ever done.

DP was basically a book reseller that did produce tapes and cassette albums

[FC_FBN]

On Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:50:22 AM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote:
> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:20:14 PM UTC-7, FC_FBN wrote: > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:10:19 PM UTC-7, TroubledFaither wrote: > > > Studio said, "DP should have died a more dignified death. I betcha in the not so distant future You'll be hearing about the elimination of the mausoleum being sold to pay for Mel's medical expenses." Yep, it should have died a more dignified death, indeed. It's weird how this Dolores Press news is bumming me out anew. I really thought I was moving past some of this and feeling better about it all, but now I feel slammed back into the gutter. It's just more concrete proof of what a stupid fuck dupe I was. I worked for DP most of my time there. So--sometimes I cruise the archives for consolation and fun, and I found this gem today (part of a post Matt had referred to once). It's in a post called, "The Appeal of Gene" (2/21/94) from Phil Miller on 2/22/94. Phil said: "I attended a service at the Church of the Open Door during hte small time that Scott was there. The sermon was from the OT book of Hagi -- a story about God blowing down some guys house because he didn't tithe. At one point Scott made everybody stand up who would agree to mortgage their home to help pay off the 17million dollar church price tage. And he accused too many followers of backsliding, and blew his nose in a Kleenex and threw it into the crowd." Wow, I had never heard either of these stories, are you fucking kidding me? He really did expect people to give up their homes for him? He actually did his disgusting nose blowing and then THREW IT INTO THE AUDIENCE? Why am I shocked? It's just making me sick to think of those people who thought God would be pleased by them mortgaging their homes for Gene Scott. It was ALL a scam and a lost cause, COTOD, the Cathedral, DP, everything. I seriously feel like I am going to throw up right now. > > > > TF, you mentioned you worked at DP for a while. As you know I am one of the early era alumni. When I was there DP was still in the old San Francisco building that they claimed used to be an old horse stable in the late 1800’s or so. It was run by a lady by the name of Anushka (sp?) or something like that. I met her once when several of us stopped by there during a visit of KVOF. Did they move the presses to Glendale? Was the building on the corner just north of FC, 1501 S. Glendale Ave, just a book store outlet or did they print Doc’s books there? I think I heard they may have even set up shop in the old studio building. Can you give me a high level overview? My inquiring mind would like to know how DP evolved from the time when I left. Hi FC, Actually, I only ever worked for DP at now defunct King's House #2 location on Broadway. When I joined in 1999 they were no longer using that small converted house on Glendale Ave. as the bookstore. She just started using the Glendale house right before I left in 2009, so I actually never set foot in there--my last visit to the 'bookstore' was when it was adjacent to the cathedral (the LAUC storefront). Even then, you had to show your pass to prove you had attended the service to get in. This is one of the many red flags I inexplicably ignored. I had heard of DP having presses in SF, but chuckle at the thought of anything actually being printed for sale, thinking of Gypsie's 'xerox' example. When I worked there books and materials offered were bought elsewhere and shipped in. MS has a crap DVD copier and that's how she makes her CDs that go out for purchase. Some nights it took 3 hours and you were lucky to get 2 good copies to sell. Lots of waste there due to that horrible equipment. When she added the most recent book to be touted, such as the E.M. Bounds book on prayer, many were mumbling under their breath that Doc would have never featured that book, it was too legalistic. She pushed that one hard, saying she was going to teach out of it (but never did). But she sold that one at less than the cover price for awhile, which was a shocker. I got it, never opened it. Anyway, my point is definitely no printing went on at the moved DP, she was just selling other folks' work and cheap copies hers and GS'old stuff. One thing worth noting, I was there when GS died, and initially many large orders came in and were prepared for mailing. Yet, not one of them ever got sent out. We were always waiting for MS' approval of the big orders and it just never happened. Not once do I recall her approving an order over say 5 CDs. I always felt it was such a waste to get them ready before she approved it. I never, ever saw a large order of Melissa Scott's material be requested, either. Her music CD sold hugely, but that's it. The 2 CDs I was burning every week for sale were GS' last resurrection message and her music CD. Not much else was being asked for. One of my 'luxuries' (ha!) in that job was being able to take any old GS recording or DVD from the master file and listen to it. I used to sneak to the stuff that wasn't being offered anymore, such as one of the many 'tough shoes for a tough walk' sermons, and sit and listen. Shortly before I left all of the old master CDs for old messages of Gene Scott were removed from the DP back room, and I saw that a huge 'erase the old tapes' operation was now under way. LOTS of old tapes got erased, and the list of available messages became tiny almost overnight. That was the beginning of the end of the availability of GS' messages, thank God.

Thank you, TF, you answered my question. So, DP at KH2 was primarily a fulfillment center, though it sounds like not a lot got fulfilled. And what did may have not always been the best quality due to poor equipment.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

.
studio:

Not only was it that way with DP, but it seemed to be
that way with everything that GS got his hands on.
it all faltered except those things that were personal to him.
Which in the giant scheme of things weren't that personal
to begin with. It seems like everything he collected was
from someone else and their mistake or financial blunder.
He never did any of the leg work. None of the heavy lifting.

Including his Melissa, a used item for sale.

[DP]

Yes, the links worked for me and thanks for posting the photos.

[WAB?!?!]

Sorry to bump this one, but I remember someone asking about the $$$/month ratio in a post here, and being as it looks like PMS said $1,200,000 before and down to $900,000 now.

Also interesting to see the 'predictions' of the loss of Sunset and such.

[surf...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 10:13:55 PM UTC-4, WAB?!?! wrote:
> Sorry to bump this one, but I remember someone asking about the $$$/month ratio in a post here, and being as it looks like PMS said $1,200,000 before and down to $900,000 now.
>
>
>
> Also interesting to see the 'predictions' of the loss of Sunset and such.

jd
again all the broad needs is internet provider and webcam 9.99 her budget is inflated like her head and her pockets all the good she could be doing for christ sake whom is one for relieving suffering not causing it, one for lightning the load not making its weight unbearable....the scotts have it all wrong , more wrong then the rest of the clowns in the known popular and media churchs at large cause the scotts should know bwtter first the doc now her...hmm dont look good to tell ya'll the truth i think melissa pastora peroff unconsumated scott saphira jezebel lilith wanna be man haten child stealin spieitual pedephiling violating abusing repressing feeder on the meek . first those with a pass for service and then the rest right? lol

[lmyer...@gmail.com]

Wow this thread is crazy!!! Real christian like. Spewing hatred and judgement. Keep up the good work! I feel bad you all. Haters keep on hating! Hope it doesn't consume you.

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Imyer:

On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:49:37 PM UTC-8, lmyer...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wow this thread is crazy!!! Real christian like. Spewing hatred and judgement. Keep up the good work! I feel bad you all. Haters keep on hating! Hope it doesn't consume you.

.
studio:
The only thing to hate is the deception that
The Scott Cult is spreading and has been spreading
all these decades with their brand of scripture
twisting all in the name of "this message" which btw
has nothing to do with Christianity itself, except
maybe on the surface.

There is no judgment here. Just observation into
the mindset of a group of cult members. Hate does not
consume us as much as it does The Scott Cult. With their
lawyers and their "giving records" and the pastor's
lavish lifestyle while KH's sleep in their cars
and are impoverished by the indoctrination of the
"tithes and offerings", an Old Testament tradition
that the Scott's love to beat people over the head with.

Yup, keep your "commitments" and hand on the plow; meaning
keep your tithing record up while your hard earned money
is given to Barbie Bridges aka Melissa Scott. She has no
business being called a pastor, unless you consider bilking
people out of their money something Godly? I doubt you are
that dumb.....but then again......?

[Matt2442]

On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:49:37 PM UTC-8, lmyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow this thread is crazy!!! Real christian like. Spewing hatred and judgement. Keep up the good work! I feel bad you all. Haters keep on hating! Hope it doesn't consume you.

Matt2442:
If you are concerned about people not being christian like, how about things like the up against the wall incident, featuring your pastor and her late husband? How Christian like were they when they subjected people to that and other abuse?

[k5d...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, November 3, 2013 3:49:37 PM UTC-6, lmyer...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wow this thread is crazy!!! Real christian like. Spewing hatred and judgement. Keep up the good work! I feel bad you all. Haters keep on hating! Hope it doesn't consume you.

There are people here who have had a long term exposure to the abusive behaviors that stem from FC and it's leadership. It certainly isn't just some random wanting to hate folks or some animus stemming from prejudice towards some ministry. Many here have had the abuses done unto them, or seen first hand the abuses from this specific ministry.

Before you come here and make the very judgments against folks that you're railing against, which in fact is quite hypocritical and very non-Christian under your value set stated, maybe you should have walked a mile (or even a foot) in their shoes before you come and spew your hatred.

Many on the outside see the PR and the outward face presented on TV and the net, and some even in the FC sanctuary who support the Scott's ministry, and have no earthly idea of the behind-the-scenes.

I'm not saying that all of us don't need grace, and I'm certainly a dirty rotten sinner and know it, but keep in mind...I myself, have had personal exposure and would not prefer to return.

I would recommend either searching this board or a simple search on the net, and examine some of the traits of spiritual abuses by ministries and hold it up next to some of the things presented over the decades by FC. I's pretty simple and self-evident.

Have a great day, and I hope you can post something with a less critical spirit...

[. (((((((studio))))))) .]

Hey k5d, you do know that was posted by a die hard scotty dontcha?
Nobody in their right mind would post like that with so much vile
and consistency in the manner of The Scott Cult. That person sounds
like someone who has been to Glendale a few times.

[gypsie]

On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:13:55 PM UTC-8, WAB?!?! wrote:
> Sorry to bump this one, but I remember someone asking about the $$$/month ratio in a post here, and being as it looks like PMS said $1,200,000 before and down to $900,000 now.
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> Also interesting to see the 'predictions' of the loss of Sunset and such.

gypsie: WAB by Sunset do you mean the mausoleum? Has that magically gone too?

[Celestia S]

On Sunday, August 12, 2012 at 3:21:29 PM UTC-5, philedelphia wrote:
> On Aug 12, 3:59 pm, happy123 <happygirl_90...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 12, 12:25 pm, Gypsie <gypsiel...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > > On Aug 12, 12:11 pm, rpbc <b_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:31:50 AM UTC-7, Chaz Lambrusco wrote:
> > > > > PMS keeps saying that Dolores Press is not her.  So, I looked it up
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> > > > > on the California Secretary of State Site.
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> > > > > SUSPENDED!
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> > > > > Entity Name:       DOLORES PRESS
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> > > > > Entity Number:     C0315389
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> > > > > Date Filed:        02/01/1956
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> > > > > Status:    SUSPENDED           <----------------
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> > > > > Jurisdiction:      CALIFORNIA
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> > > > > Entity Address:    1501 S GLENDALE AVENUE
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> > > > > Entity City, State, Zip:   GLENDALE CA 91205
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> > > > > Agent for Service of Process:      PATRICIA GLASER
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> > > > > Agent Address:     10250 CONSTELLATION AVENUE
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> > > > > Agent City, State, Zip:    LOS ANGELES CA 91205
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> > > > > So, where is Dolores Press incorporated?  Is it a Non-profit now?
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> > > > rpbc:
> > > > What is meant under status by the term suspended?  Is that the result of legal action taken against them by some regulatory agency or an action initiated by Dolores Press?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > mebbe this is why she keeps the sales so tightly controlled as in no
> > > outside sales,no sales tax paid, et al?- Hide quoted text -
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> > Hi Gypsie and rpbc,
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> > Please see the link posted below.
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> > http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/be/cbs-field-status-definitions.htm
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> > Suspended or Forfeited:  The business entity's powers, rights and
> > privileges were suspended or forfeited in California 1) by the
> > Franchise Tax Board for failure to file a return and/or failure to pay
> > taxes, penalties, or interest; and/or 2) by the Secretary of State for
> > failure to file the required Statement of Information and, if
> > applicable, the required Statement by Common Interest Development
> > Association. Information regarding the type of suspension can be
> > obtained by ordering a status report. For information on ordering a
> > status report, refer to Information Requests.
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> > Yep....I would say tax problems.
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> phl
> answered prayer would see the woman in jail and an end to the false
> doctrine worship everytime she says illuminate it reminds me that she
> has a glow in the dark dildo for her lesbian activity when she leavs
> the stage
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> traitor illuminati whore jezabel melissa scott
> burn in hell for your unrepentence greedy baal worshipper
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> oh yeah ill still drop a nugget of gold rebuke off for your sunday
> "self service" as they gather to watch you stroke yourself with the
> pages of gods word while the blind get off on feelin good about
> themselvers for letting you do it at their expense in the profane name
> of lying shame and merchandised false doctrine
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> burn in hell jezabel and the lord can start purifyingand strengthening
> his people by making an example of you and bringing you down melissa
> scott way low where you lose your wealth your reputation and liberty.
> Jail bitch Prison you corrupt and eroded fake priest witch
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> burn that church down lord i pray for it. just the building lord not
> the people let them watch it burn as i had to watch my mothers home
> burn for your desire ands example
>
> make a show of her lord! SELAH
>
> the truth be told

Is this philadelphia person one of kevin's alter egos? They use a lot of the same terms. Oh wait, I just noticed he mentions his mother's home burning, must be him.

[nopms]

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 2:37:48 PM UTC-7, Celestia S wrote:
>[snip]

> Is this philadelphia person one of kevin's alter egos? They use a lot of the same terms. Oh wait, I just noticed he mentions his mother's home burning, must be him.

Yes.

[geraldkrug]

Shitiot is a negro.

[there...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 12:05:04 AM UTC-4, geraldkrug wrote:
> Shitiot is a negro.

All these posts are a disgrace! I will pray for all of you!! You have no idea what the Bible says. BTW Read Ephesians 6 again.

[rpbc]

rpbc: Do mean all the posts in this thread or all the posts on afgs? And, at your suggestion, I just read Ephesians 6, again. You are obviously laboring under a false premise... run along now, your spiritual father now mother will spank you for being here.